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Hey guys, got WP7 on my HD2 today and I was reading that you had to manually set your APN to gain 3G. I set mine up (epc.tmobile.com for TMOUS) and I have 3G, yet MMS still wont work! Have searched and searched and it seems some people's just works randomly. Halp!
try download from the market in the HTC section the connection setup... and let it configure the phone for tmobile... I don't know if it will fix the problem but theres no harm in trying
dont you have to go through that long fix to use the market....? right now i cant do that because the SDK tools wont install. says there is an issue installing .net framework 4 something or other.... :/ looks like im going back to stock 6.5 and android for now
d16soda said:
dont you have to go through that long fix to use the market....? right now i cant do that because the SDK tools wont install. says there is an issue installing .net framework 4 something or other.... :/ looks like im going back to stock 6.5 and android for now
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If you cant side load the connection setup since you dont have the dev tools installed and don't have it activated with Live... No other way..
Normally it would work with the APN set correctly since theres no other options like mms ip and so on... Enjoy Android.. Lets see if in the future this issue gets fixed
Well... I guess my heart is set that I am so in love with WP7, I am going to keep trying. My issue was the .NET framework. When I try to install the SDK it says that the .NET Framework 4 blah blah couldn't install. Mind you I manually installed the .NF4 beforehand, uninstalling and reinstalling now, will report back. Until then, anyone had this problem then fixed it?
d16soda said:
Well... I guess my heart is set that I am so in love with WP7, I am going to keep trying. My issue was the .NET framework. When I try to install the SDK it says that the .NET Framework 4 blah blah couldn't install. Mind you I manually installed the .NF4 beforehand, uninstalling and reinstalling now, will report back. Until then, anyone had this problem then fixed it?
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when I installed the tools I didnt have .NF4 installed.. and during the web install it installed already
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hakuchi18v said:
when I installed the tools I didnt have .NF4 installed.. and during the web install it installed already
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Web install? I had to download a special .zip file containing the dev tools for XP SP3 that i found here on the forums. What OS are you running? I think XP is kind of different... :/
d16soda said:
Web install? I had to download a special .zip file containing the dev tools for XP SP3 that i found here on the forums. What OS are you running? I think XP is kind of different... :/
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oo.. yea XP does have issues with that... Im on W7.. you can aways upgrade get the bonus of a new os if your pc meets the min req
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hakuchi18v said:
oo.. yea XP does have issues with that... Im on W7.. you can aways upgrade get the bonus of a new os if your pc meets the min req
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LOL. Got rid of my gaming rig... making dude with an AMD XP 2600+ 1GB Ram, and a GeForce 6800GS. get the job done, but would crumble on W7. I finally got past that point and installed the SDK. Now Zune effed up... reinstalling hoping to fix.
Hope everything ends up working for you... Aslong as Zune loads up and connects to the phone .. All you got to do is go into the market or Music while plugged in and sideloading should work
Hey i got W7 running on an Old Gateway with AMD Athlon 1400 1G Ram and Radeon 9550.. Aero and all runs fine.. Have it stored away just incase
hakuchi18v said:
Hope everything ends up working for you... Aslong as Zune loads up and connects to the phone .. All you got to do is go into the market or Music while plugged in and sideloading should work
Hey i got W7 running on an Old Gateway with AMD Athlon 1400 1G Ram and Radeon 9550.. Aero and all runs fine.. Have it stored away just incase
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Really? How does W7 run on that PC?
Now back on topic.... lol. So, I got Zune to load and my device connects correctly. Now chevron isn't working and apparently there is a 1% chance of anyone getting it to work on XP. Yet, I was just informed that most roms come pre-unlocked so I wont need chevron!
Now that my device is hooked up, how do I sideload? I have the connection setup ready to go.
d16soda said:
Really? How does W7 run on that PC?
Now back on topic.... lol. So, I got Zune to load and my device connects correctly. Now chevron isn't working and apparently there is a 1% chance of anyone getting it to work on XP. Yet, I was just informed that most roms come pre-unlocked so I wont need chevron!
Now that my device is hooked up, how do I sideload? I have the connection setup ready to go.
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If the ROM you have says it comes activated and unlocked with the registry changes already cooked then all you have to do is load up Zune and connect the phone.. then on the phone go to Music & Videos or the Market so the Sync Complete Screen comes up then just use TOM XAP installer or a hacked version of the Developer Application Deployment Program to sideload and .xap you want (connection setup)....
Off topic.. I just started up the setup DVD and it installed W7 on it and right from the start everything except the Audio worked and an update fixed it
hakuchi18v said:
If the ROM you have says it comes activated and unlocked with the registry changes already cooked then all you have to do is load up Zune and connect the phone.. then on the phone go to Music & Videos or the Market so the Sync Complete Screen comes up then just use TOM XAP installer or a hacked version of the Developer Application Deployment Program to sideload and .xap you want (connection setup)....
Off topic.. I just started up the setup DVD and it installed W7 on it and right from the start everything except the Audio worked and an update fixed it
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What cooked rom are you using? I'd like a preunlocked one... probably make things easier.
had the same issues with t-mobile uk. downloaded the htc conntection wizard and ran that and it worked fine. also try sending a picture message, as sometimes that seems to fix the issue (i had to do this on android).
as for the chevron hacks etc, you are better off using a pre-unlocked rom. look in the wp7 development section of this forum and u will find most roms will cook it in. if u have that then your next challenge will be the windows live id for marketplace access. US have chat support for windows phone 7, but in the UK i had to phone them and just got given a code
your PC will run windows 7 fine, windows 7 needs less resources than vista, i have some very old PCs running windows 7 and they run fine, the only issues i have come across is aero not working, which i can live without.
you may find that it is a worthwhile upgrade, as not only with the wp7 dev tools be much easier to install/use on windows 7, but any updates to them are most likely to only be available to windows 7, plus XP is in extended support, meaning that updates will only be rolled out if they are critical, and most newer software will carry the designed for windows 7 logo.
matthewharmon102 said:
had the same issues with t-mobile uk. downloaded the htc conntection wizard and ran that and it worked fine. also try sending a picture message, as sometimes that seems to fix the issue (i had to do this on android).
as for the chevron hacks etc, you are better off using a pre-unlocked rom. look in the wp7 development section of this forum and u will find most roms will cook it in. if u have that then your next challenge will be the windows live id for marketplace access. US have chat support for windows phone 7, but in the UK i had to phone them and just got given a code
your PC will run windows 7 fine, windows 7 needs less resources than vista, i have some very old PCs running windows 7 and they run fine, the only issues i have come across is aero not working, which i can live without.
you may find that it is a worthwhile upgrade, as not only with the wp7 dev tools be much easier to install/use on windows 7, but any updates to them are most likely to only be available to windows 7, plus XP is in extended support, meaning that updates will only be rolled out if they are critical, and most newer software will carry the designed for windows 7 logo.
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agreed. waiting for my hard disks to partition and installing windows 7.
I flashed a WP7 rom on my phone that is pre-unlocked, but I am still unsure how to side-load this connection setup. Phone connected and recognized by zuneeeee. What next?
d16soda said:
agreed. waiting for my hard disks to partition and installing windows 7.
I flashed a WP7 rom on my phone that is pre-unlocked, but I am still unsure how to side-load this connection setup. Phone connected and recognized by zuneeeee. What next?
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Glad to hear everything started to work out...
This is how i sideload apps
Once Zune regognizes the phone and syncs succesfully while still pluged in... on the phone make sure the backlite is set so it wont turn off.. if it turns off it breaks the connection.... Once you have that set go into the market on the phone or Music & Videos... Once you go into one of those apps it will say that you are connected and it will sync briefly and say sync complete... while still in that sync complete screen start up the Application Deployment and browse to the connection setup .xap and deploy it.. If the connection Setup is signed correctly (official App) it should successfully send it to the phone and load up right away.. if not it should be in the programs list
Hmm.. alright thanks man. Ill definitely give it a shot tomorrow.
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W7 works on my Acer one Netbook. 1Ghz CPu, 1GB ram and onboard 32mb graphics. even works with aero!
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Hey guys, got WP7 on my HD2 today and I was reading that you had to manually set your APN to gain 3G. I set mine up (epc.tmobile.com for TMOUS) and I have 3G, yet MMS still wont work! Have searched and searched and it seems some people's just works randomly. Halp!
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what worked for me was going to settings to cellular then to add apn.....the i put in the apn field epc.t-mobile.com....then other 2 fields left blank...reboot and i have 3g and full mms working perfect hope this helped out
nips_uk said:
W7 works on my Acer one Netbook. 1Ghz CPu, 1GB ram and onboard 32mb graphics. even works with aero!
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Exactly what I have running. Runs Ultimate fine.
Back on topic. Its not tht hard to sideload apps.
Turn lockscreen timer to never in settings.
Open Zune. Wait for sync complete. Minimize Zune.
Deploy xap via Toms xap installer or even easier download wp7 marketplace for PC and set xap file association to have wpdeploy run on double click.
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if i install windows 8 on my windows 7 will everything be formatted ?
and other apps i install will that work ?
Create a new partition if you want a dual boot, otherwise it will overwrite your data, because currently there is no upgrade function. Most Applications will work in the dev release, but MS is changing Framework, so I am not sure if they will work in the final release!
I've encountered a handful of apps that give me grief on Windows 8, but they're pretty old after all. A few classic games that I own through Steam will install well enough, but are a headache to run.
In all fairness, I had similar trouble in Windows 7 (for some reason, a handful of old games redistributed with DOSbox fail to launch), so it's probably safe to say that anything Windows 7 can handle, Windows 8 can as well. For everything else, there are virtual machines.
josidhe said:
so it's probably safe to say that anything Windows 7 can handle, Windows 8 can as well.
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Not so true
anna0811 said:
if i install windows 8 on my windows 7 will everything be formatted ?
and other apps i install will that work ?
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Try this tutorial on how to dual-boot Windows 7 & 8: How to Dual-Boot Windows 7 and Windows 8 Side By Side
josidhe said:
so it's probably safe to say that anything Windows 7 can handle, Windows 8 can as well. For everything else, there are virtual machines.
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Not so there are a number of applications that will not run on VM ware, especially some of the tools required to work with Android phones.
My recommendation, get or keep an old laptop with Windows XP service pack 3 and your good to go.
Windows really should have everything backward compatible, but it doesn't.....Sigh!
Starburst13 said:
Not so there are a number of applications that will not run on VM ware, especially some of the tools required to work with Android phones.
My recommendation, get or keep an old laptop with Windows XP service pack 3 and your good to go.
Windows really should have everything backward compatible, but it doesn't.....Sigh!
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My understanding is that, with USB pass through in VMs, there are no significant limitations on what you can do with a USB device from within a virtual machine. There are extensive discussions on using tools like adb from a virtualized Ubuntu box, at least.
As for your final comment, you're on a strange side of the fence. It has long been a *criticism* of Microsoft that it struggled for so long to keep Windows backwards compatible, and many--MANY--users have wanted them to throw caution to the wind and "rebuild from scratch" the OS, with such compatibility-breaking demands as "eliminate the registry" and so on.
Android itself barely stumbles through version changes, with countless applications breaking on each new release,, prompting swarms of app updates with nothing on their change logs but "added support for 2.x". To this day there are apps on the market with separate entries for 1.x devices.
So I would expect advanced users to acknowledge that virtualization is the grand middle ground solution, allowing businesses with ancient tools to keep using them while advancing the actual OS without wasted development time.
I definitely wouldn't recommend formatting your current Windows 7 partition and installing Windows 8, as it's still a developer preview. Try creating a new partition and dual-booting, this would also allow you to keep all of your current programs and data on your Windows 7 partition.
MS Office 2010 consistently fails. You can get it to install in compatability mode, but it gets stuck trying to load Word, etc. even in Compatability mode. Only way to edit windows documents currently seems to be Skydrive which sucks with the whole metro interface issues trying to navigate. LOL so sad.... I want to like Windows 8 but Im having a hard time finding a reason.
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MS Office 2010 consistently fails. You can get it to install in compatability mode, but it gets stuck trying to load Word, etc. even in Compatability mode. Only way to edit windows documents currently seems to be Skydrive which sucks with the whole metro interface issues trying to navigate. LOL so sad.... I want to like Windows 8 but Im having a hard time finding a reason.
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Sounds like something is corrupt, Office 2010 should work out-of-the-box in Windows 8 consumer preview as it does here.
fed44 said:
Sounds like something is corrupt, Office 2010 should work out-of-the-box in Windows 8 consumer preview as it does here.
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Agreed, working fine here, I assume your not using an extremely dodgy edition?
It wouldn't surprise me if MS added something to the mix to stop that, but failing that, im guessing there's some compatibility issue around it and your configuration, you did try installing it WITHOUT compat mode?
runs fine here too. take dazza's suggestion and dont install in compatibility mode.
Works fine for me on 3 different systems running Windows 8. The problem is on your end, not Windows 8's.
I was able to get it to work finally, but I had to run it in Compatability mode to install, and run it. Also it kept failing to open files it would just hang, but the day after I posted about it they released a patch. As of the patch it opens, edits, and saves files fine.
I was/am using the Free Trial version of Office 2010 a fresh copy direct from MS, and running it on Win 8 cpe 8250
Office 2010 Pro Plus 64bit loaded fine on my tablet. It was even pre service pack 1, which i installed afterward.
Works Fine here office 2010 on windows 8 64 bit!
you don't need compatibility...works flawless out of the box on windows 8 64 bit.
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MS Office 2010 consistently fails. You can get it to install in compatability mode, but it gets stuck trying to load Word, etc. even in Compatability mode. Only way to edit windows documents currently seems to be Skydrive which sucks with the whole metro interface issues trying to navigate. LOL so sad.... I want to like Windows 8 but Im having a hard time finding a reason.
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Have you installed sp1 for office 2010?
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Hi,
I had a legitimate Windows 7, and recently I bought a legitimate Windows 8 Pro upgrade. Al went fine until yesterday when my SSD disk crashed.
I changed hard disk, re download from official microsoft site the Windows 8 Pro, put it on a USB and reinstalled windows 8.
Now the Windows 8 does not activate since it is saying that it is an upgrade and not a clean install version.
Wht are my option now?
Losing one day of reinstalling Windows 7 and on top Windows 8 upgrade is out of the questions, unless Microsoft PAYS ME all the time it make me lose.
Thanks for any advice
Sadly, I don't think you can activate Windows 8 with a upgrade key, when you do a clean install. I'm staying away from the upgrade and going with the full version due to this. I wish I had something more to say, but if you want Windows 8, you'll have to reinstall Windows 7 and then perform the upgrade to activate with that key.
Konner920 said:
Sadly, I don't think you can activate Windows 8 with a upgrade key, when you do a clean install. I'm staying away from the upgrade and going with the full version due to this. I wish I had something more to say, but if you want Windows 8, you'll have to reinstall Windows 7 and then perform the upgrade to activate with that key.
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I prefer to look for a crack.
Dumb me having given my money to microsoft
Worst case install win7 does not even need to be activated. Then install Win8.
What you really need is just a Win8 installer that doesn't care about upgrade or not. The key will work with any disc that installs Win8 Pro.
claudioita said:
Hi,
I had a legitimate Windows 7, and recently I bought a legitimate Windows 8 Pro upgrade. Al went fine until yesterday when my SSD disk crashed.
I changed hard disk, re download from official microsoft site the Windows 8 Pro, put it on a USB and reinstalled windows 8.
Now the Windows 8 does not activate since it is saying that it is an upgrade and not a clean install version.
Wht are my option now?
Losing one day of reinstalling Windows 7 and on top Windows 8 upgrade is out of the questions, unless Microsoft PAYS ME all the time it make me lose.
Thanks for any advice
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Installing Windows 7 then Windows 8 is hardly a full days work, more like 5 minutes of work punctuated by 30 minutes worth of waiting. Also, Microsoft doesn't owe you anything if you failed to follow the terms of their licenses and can't get the software to work.
Also, note that you can do a clean install by booting off of the drive, there just has to be another copy of Windows present on the system (I took the HDD out of my laptop and put it in to get past this, didn't touch the HDD on my laptop and it let it activate)
Thanks for letting me know how absurd the terms of the license of the company microshot are.
Probably you are right I should have waisted another 4 or 5 hours reading their entire terms of license, eventually asking a lawyer his legal opinion, before understanding that is not worth to buy their product.
Now I know.
netham45 said:
Installing Windows 7 then Windows 8 is hardly a full days work, more like 5 minutes of work punctuated by 30 minutes worth of waiting. )
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Not when you don't have a windoz 7 cd, since it came pre-installed on my new laptop last year
Ah, yes, I forgot that coming across those rare Windows 7 discs is next to impossible and takes months of prepping and searching.
Also, you could have just googled it instead of reading the entire ToS, it's not like the cause to your issue isn't common knowledge or anything.
Your best route at this point is going to be either installing the release preview (and upgrading from that), finding the recovery discs that came with your laptop, or borrowing a friends recovery discs. None of which take a considerable amount of time, I might add.
netham45 said:
Ah, yes, I forgot that coming across those rare Windows 7 discs is next to impossible and takes months of prepping and searching.
Also, you could have just googled it instead of reading the entire ToS, it's not like the cause to your issue isn't common knowledge or anything.
Your best route at this point is going to be either installing the release preview (and upgrading from that), finding the recovery discs that came with your laptop, or borrowing a friends recovery discs. None of which take a considerable amount of time, I might add.
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If the answer is: go find a windows 7 disc somewhere (in my house there is none), google to find out the legalities of microshot, download a 2Gbyte file from the internet, , install the preview, then install the windows 8 pro upgrade and HOPE AND PRAY that all get well
and if something goes bad, maybe you would add that I should have googled for the solution to the "uncommon" problem.
No thanks, I send the computer to a repair shop. I hope they install me a cracked version. Or I may just switch to Apple.
Good bye.
Torrent the W8 release preview iso, upgrade from that.
Legal, easy.
claudioita said:
No thanks, I send the computer to a repair shop. I hope they install me a cracked version. Or I may just switch to Apple.
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If you can't handle something so simple, maybe you would be better off with Apple.
Echoing what everyone else says. You're mad because of a hardware fault and you are blaming Microsoft for something that you consciously chose. The upgrade disc only works if you have a copy of Windows 7 Available, because it doesn't include some core files that are standard. If you install Windows 8 using the Release Candidate disc through MSDN/Whatever, and then input your upgrade keys, you should be fine.
This thread doesn't belong in this subforum anyway, as it neither pertains to Development, or Hacking.
xenoletum said:
Echoing what everyone else says. You're mad because of a hardware fault and you are blaming Microsoft for something that you consciously chose. The upgrade disc only works if you have a copy of Windows 7 Available, because it doesn't include some core files that are standard. If you install Windows 8 using the Release Candidate disc through MSDN/Whatever, and then input your upgrade keys, you should be fine.
This thread doesn't belong in this subforum anyway, as it neither pertains to Development, or Hacking.
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Actually, all Windows 8 versions have the same core files, there's just this one file that makes them operate/install differently according to their given version (Core, Pro, VL, etc.) by using a specific product key. That's why you can still perform a clean install using an upgrade disc, but only certain keys that are capable of activating a clean install would work.
Now back to the problem. You can either install Windows 7 and upgrade to Windows 8, or try install Windows 8 again via clean install and add Media Center for free at Microsoft website. I'm not sure if it requires you an activated Windows 8 to add features or not. So yeah just trying to help.
downloaderintruder said:
Actually, all Windows 8 versions have the same core files, there's just this one file that makes them operate/install differently according to their given version (Core, Pro, VL, etc.) by using a specific product key. That's why you can still perform a clean install using an upgrade disc, but only certain keys that are capable of activating a clean install would work.
Now back to the problem. You can either install Windows 7 and upgrade to Windows 8, or try install Windows 8 again via clean install and add Media Center for free at Microsoft website. I'm not sure if it requires you an activated Windows 8 to add features or not. So yeah just trying to help.
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Why would that help? The media center key is for downloading media center, it won't activate 8.
claudioita said:
Hi,
I had a legitimate Windows 7, and recently I bought a legitimate Windows 8 Pro upgrade. Al went fine until yesterday when my SSD disk crashed.
I changed hard disk, re download from official microsoft site the Windows 8 Pro, put it on a USB and reinstalled windows 8.
Now the Windows 8 does not activate since it is saying that it is an upgrade and not a clean install version.
Wht are my option now?
Losing one day of reinstalling Windows 7 and on top Windows 8 upgrade is out of the questions, unless Microsoft PAYS ME all the time it make me lose.
Thanks for any advice
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I came across the same and fixed by following this it worked for me
Windows 8 users who noticed that the operating system can’t be activated after the installation may want to try the following workaround that worked to activate when installing Windows 8 using an upgrade on a clean PC.
Open regedit by pressing Windows-q, entering regedit and selecting the result from the list of hits.
Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Setup/OOBE/
Change MediaBootInstall from 1 to 0
Go back to the start screen and enter cmd there.
Right-click Command Prompt and select to run it as administrator.
Type slmgr /rearm on the command line and hit enter.
Reboot Windows now.
Run the activation utility afterwards, enter your product key to activate Windows.
Cheers !
xenoletum said:
Echoing what everyone else says. You're mad because of a hardware fault and you are blaming Microsoft for something that you consciously chose. The upgrade disc only works if you have a copy of Windows 7 Available, because it doesn't include some core files that are standard. If you install Windows 8 using the Release Candidate disc through MSDN/Whatever, and then input your upgrade keys, you should be fine.
This thread doesn't belong in this subforum anyway, as it neither pertains to Development, or Hacking.
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I am mad because I PAID for a legitimate Windows 7 operating system on a new Laptop that I paid for. No windows 7 CD came with the laptop. And I fully blame Macro**** for this.
This is a fully responsibility of Micro****: they know there are millions of user without Windows 7 CD and many of them are buying the upgrade to Windows 8 (fool us). And when something happens you have to bring it to a repair center, or lose incredible amount of time, surfing forums, asking questions all over, downloading Gigabytes of software and so on.
Yes, Microsoft is a horrible software house.
Other option Macrosh*t can do is say from the BEGINNING that your version is an upgrade and cannot be installed, instead of letting you install all the OS and then tell you. What a piece of **** company.
link68759 said:
Why would that help? The media center key is for downloading media center, it won't activate 8.
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Umm, I was just TRYING to help dumbass. Because I've done that before and it did activate because it sees it as a VALID PRODUCT KEY.
claudioita said:
I am mad because I PAID for a legitimate Windows 7 operating system on a new Laptop that I paid for. No windows 7 CD came with the laptop. And I fully blame Macro**** for this.
This is a fully responsibility of Micro****: they know there are millions of user without Windows 7 CD and many of them are buying the upgrade to Windows 8 (fool us). And when something happens you have to bring it to a repair center, or lose incredible amount of time, surfing forums, asking questions all over, downloading Gigabytes of software and so on.
Yes, Microsoft is a horrible software house.
Other option Macrosh*t can do is say from the BEGINNING that your version is an upgrade and cannot be installed, instead of letting you install all the OS and then tell you. What a piece of **** company.
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This is a little confusing. If you hate and you've hated Microsoft then why did you buy a brand new Windows 7 laptop and then willingly bought an upgrade to Windows 8. Hey seems like Macrosh*t still got what they wanted. Lol cheers :beer:
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downloaderintruder said:
Umm, I was just TRYING to help dumbass. Because I've done that before and it did activate because it sees it as a VALID PRODUCT KEY.
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I have an unactivated computer, I just tried it, "Before you can add features, you need to activate first".
I appreciate you were trying to help, but you don't know what you're talking about, go home.
claudioita said:
I am mad because I PAID for a legitimate Windows 7 operating system on a new Laptop that I paid for. No windows 7 CD came with the laptop. And I fully blame Macro**** for this.
This is a fully responsibility of Micro****: they know there are millions of user without Windows 7 CD and many of them are buying the upgrade to Windows 8 (fool us). And when something happens you have to bring it to a repair center, or lose incredible amount of time, surfing forums, asking questions all over, downloading Gigabytes of software and so on.
Yes, Microsoft is a horrible software house.
Other option Macrosh*t can do is say from the BEGINNING that your version is an upgrade and cannot be installed, instead of letting you install all the OS and then tell you. What a piece of **** company.
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Your just plain stupid, and not logical. The time you've waited posting nonsense could have been used to download an windows 7 iso, installed it and upgraded to WIN8 and be done with it.
This happened to me. If you do an upgrade of windows 8 over the windows 8 install you have now you will be good to go =D
I might be going out on a limb here be even asking this but is it possible to hack Zune music files or even picture files to sync with WP8 devices
sinister1 said:
I might be going out on a limb here be even asking this but is it possible to hack Zune music files or even picture files to sync with WP8 devices
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I'll admit I would like this too. It is a lot better than the "WIndows Phone App" for Windows 7". Dont get me wrong, if you have Windows 8, the app looks nice but, for Windows 7, would love to get this back so I can sync like I could with my 7.5 device.
DavidinCT said:
I'll admit I would like this too. It is a lot better than the "WIndows Phone App" for Windows 7". Dont get me wrong, if you have Windows 8, the app looks nice but, for Windows 7, would love to get this back so I can sync like I could with my 7.5 device.
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I agree with you DavidinCT. I don't think Microsoft quite go the message when we asked them that we didn't need Zune for everything. Although I like the fact that they made the store separate; they still should have left Zune as a music player or at least given us a Xbox music app.
sinister1 said:
I agree with you DavidinCT. I don't think Microsoft quite go the message when we asked them that we didn't need Zune for everything. Although I like the fact that they made the store separate; they still should have left Zune as a music player or at least given us a Xbox music app.
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If you plug in your WP8 device to a computer, it will show as a drive and on the drive, it has a Music folder. There must be a way for Zune to sync with it as it would be almost just like syncing with a USB drive or a flash card.
What else will zune sync with besides Zune devices and WP7 devices ? How does the WP8 app do it, maybe so converter/program can be put in there to make it see it as a Zune device ?
With it being like a USB drive, I am sure it should not be hard for someone to do...for someone who knows how Zune works and can access the API for it..
You know what, I wonder if there something in Zune's registry that can be changed?? Hum.... I'll look into it see if I can find anything.:silly:
Hum found something but not sure; under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE>Software>Microsoft>Zune>Sync>Windows Phone>Handlers>DNS. Can someone look into it and see if anything if it is possible to write a new entry or change something? If it's a dll that needs to be changed then I'll have to leave it to a pro, I'm no good with dlls. Hopefully someone with the know how can help us.
sinister1 said:
Hum found something but not sure; under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE>Software>Microsoft>Zune>Sync>Windows Phone>Handlers>DNS. Can someone look into it and see if anything if it is possible to write a new entry or change something? If it's a dll that needs to be changed then I'll have to leave it to a pro, I'm no good with dlls. Hopefully someone with the know how can help us.
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Good luck, I'll take a look if I get a second tonight to see if I can figure out anything but, I dont understand how Zune subsystem really works but, there has to be white paper on it or something...
DavidinCT said:
Good luck, I'll take a look if I get a second tonight to see if I can figure out anything but, I dont understand how Zune subsystem really works but, there has to be white paper on it or something...
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Cool let me know what you find because I've hit a bump.
Not to be Eeyore here, but what you are trying to do is the equivalent of making Zune sync to an iPod or other Mp3 player. It can't be done. You need drivers and numerous other resources from Microsoft, which they have developed.
C-Lang said:
Not to be Eeyore here, but what you are trying to do is the equivalent of making Zune sync to an iPod or other Mp3 player. It can't be done. You need drivers and numerous other resources from Microsoft, which they have developed.
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he has a point here guys, and even if zune was jus copying music from one folder to another like a MP3 player it still wont work as zune has a database as well that would need amending. nope, without some kind of emulation layer, it is unlikely to ever be done
course, I should have checked the dates on this, that was some bump!
Oh yeah that darn Zune data base, I forgot about that... double bump!!
Doesn't WMP sync to usb devices?
and also does video/pictures?
I always thought zune just did what wmp does but for wp, although saying that I've never tried it with mine, just got annoyed at how pointless the windows phone 8 app is...
Yes wmp will sync to a usb device but a WP device isn't a usb device, other than the final result wmp and Zune have nothing In common, i don't have a wp8 device so haven't had the pleasure of using it but Zune is actually really good
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Zune speaks MTPZ (Media Transfer Protocol, Zune extensions). WP8 (and Windows Explorer, when showing a "media device" instead of a "removable drive") speak MTP (without the Z). They are not compatible. Your chances of getting Zune to talk to WP8 without a fair bit of reverse engineering or MitM on the connection are quite low, and I don't personally believe it's worth the effort.
With that said, I think WMP does (or perhaps did at one point) speak MTP. A number of other programs do too, including ones for OSes other than Windows. I haven't yet checked to see if there's anything special about WP8's MTP that prevents those other programs from working, though; there might be. After all, it was possible to get Zune and WP7 devices to show up (as MTP devices) in Windows Explorer after a registry tweak, but you did still need to have the Zune software installed.
Windows Media Player will sync with WP8 devices, though its pretty slow.
Attempts at hacking the MTPz protocol have been ongoing for years and it just died out and was never successful. Suffice to say, it isn't going to happen. We'll sooner get a proper syncing client from Microsoft for WP8 before someone reverse engineers the Zune software/protocol.
The only reason I would want Zune to work with WP8 is wireless sync. Wish there was a way to do that with WP8
I'm interested in some type of Music sync, I guess I would like all the zune features (podcasts, apps, etc) but, I would deal with a good music sync app.
Is anyone using anything besides the crappy "Windows Phone app" ? IS there a good 3rd party app that would sync to a removable device (like WP8 shows up as), to have a better interface for transferring music ?
Localhorst86 said:
The only reason I would want Zune to work with WP8 is wireless sync. Wish there was a way to do that with WP8
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Agreed. The lack of phone-to-PC cloud sync is quite frustrating. 90% of the time I discover music from my phone and want it to sync back to my PC, not the other way around. Xbox Music has its fair share of issues, both in the backend service and in the horrible Windows 8 app. If they don't fix this on the phone in WP8.1, I don't think they'll ever get it right.
It's just a shame because all they needed to do was rebrand Zune. Change the logo, color scheme, and name. I don't think we loyalists would have cared what it's called, as long as its functionality remained the same. Instead, they gutted it of all its unique and useful features, then reinvented the wheel. As a square wheel. Xbox Music is nothing more than a less-functional, slower Zune with fewer songs in its library. What a waste of time and development resources.
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Agreed. The lack of phone-to-PC cloud sync is quite frustrating. 90% of the time I discover music from my phone and want it to sync back to my PC, not the other way around. Xbox Music has its fair share of issues, both in the backend service and in the horrible Windows 8 app. If they don't fix this on the phone in WP8.1, I don't think they'll ever get it right.
It's just a shame because all they needed to do was rebrand Zune. Change the logo, color scheme, and name. I don't think we loyalists would have cared what it's called, as long as its functionality remained the same. Instead, they gutted it of all its unique and useful features, then reinvented the wheel. As a square wheel. Xbox Music is nothing more than a less-functional, slower Zune with fewer songs in its library. What a waste of time and development resources.
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agree with you a 100%
if you guys didn't know this Microsoft released the windows phone app for desktop out of beta ... it is a little better then WMP but no where near Zune functionality
Bah I am working on some software to sync music like Zune does.
Music and other stuff as well.
Does everything zune does(except phone updates), plus some other things.