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What operating system do you use???

basically i want to know if you use windows, mac, or linux, and why you use that OS, and also how many people have yet to root their phone because it seems too complicated. i am currently working on a script runable in linux and soon to be runable in windows that will automatically root your phone for you. all you will need to do is run the command, hit enter a few times, set up a setting in anycut(which will be installed on the phone after flashing to RC29) and walk away, or you can sit there and stare at it if you want.
but since i know there are those three main OS's i wanted to know if i should continue trying to get this automated and running in all three operating systems.

I use all of the above so I can't vote. And technically if you own an Android phone you're using Linux.

Ron Overdrive said:
I use all of the above so I can't vote. And technically if you own an Android phone you're using Linux.
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Well which do you use to do work on your phone? And I know by using android you are using linux which is why I made sure to say "on your main computer" I use linux to work on my phones, but I can use windows on my friend's comp

tubaking182 said:
Well which do you use to do work on your phone? And I know by using android you are using linux which is why I made sure to say "on your main computer" I use linux to work on my phones, but I can use windows on my friend's comp
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Lately I've been using Windows 7 since I'm giving it a go to see if I want to return to Windows or not after the Vista blunder.
Honestly though I'd make an OS independent way of doing it to simplify it. Like make it in Java, Python, or in Mono so it'll be one app for all 3 OS's.

Why did you say "M$" in the poll option and not "Microsoft". I thought bagging Microsoft for no good reason stopped being cool 5 years ago?

because up until recently if you were to try and get ahold of a copy of XP an older and "obsolete" operating system they charged nuch more than they charged you for a copy of the crappy vista that the deemed perfect. the company will do anything to make more money than they chould be making, they overcharge for everything and quite frankly i would rag on mac too but it has been a long time since i touched a mac. these days i don't pay for a thing when it comes to my computer software, if there is not a free alternative then i don't need the program. software companies charge an arm and a leg for their software and then they whine and cry that people are pirating it. take a look at photoshop. over 60% of the copies of photoshop that are installed on computers nationwide are pirated copies, and is it any wonder? adobe wants to charge nearly $900 for a piece of intangible software, i'll stick with gimp

I've got an old iMac I still use (OS 9.2), and my main pc is quad boot (XP Pro, Vista, 7, and Unbuntu), and my netbook is dual boot from the hard drive (XP Pro & Vista) and I've got persistant install of Ubuntu on an sdhc card, and a live install of GOS on an sd card.
So I think there should be an option of "All of the above".

Linux here as a desktop OS since the times of Slackware 9.1
Windows XP for commercial development (C# )
I am giving Windows 7 a try too

Work: WinXP
Home: Win7 Beta
Laptop: Currently XP, switching to Ubuntu or some other linux flavor this weekend.
I primarily use Windows because i'm more of a PC Gamer than console. I'd most likely switch completely to Linux >IF< the game industry went full throtle into Linux development. Not talking about a Windows Emulator on linux to run windows games, but coding games natively for Linux.
I think this is a great Idea. I've rooted my phone to get themes and auto-rotation and the updated APN Radio stuff on it. Showed it to some of my friends and they want to root as well, but want me to do it for them cause they are nervous. I tried explaining that if they just follow the step by step instructions, they will be fine. So this will certainly make things easier for them.
tubaking182 said:
basically i want to know if you use windows, mac, or linux, and why you use that OS, and also how many people have yet to root their phone because it seems too complicated. i am currently working on a script runable in linux and soon to be runable in windows that will automatically root your phone for you. all you will need to do is run the command, hit enter a few times, set up a setting in anycut(which will be installed on the phone after flashing to RC29) and walk away, or you can sit there and stare at it if you want.
but since i know there are those three main OS's i wanted to know if i should continue trying to get this automated and running in all three operating systems.
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ASUS G1Sn: Dual Boot Vista and Ubuntu, Vista will be replaced when win7 is final
Asus eeepc 1000H dual boot: Windows 7 Beta 1 and XP
I use Vista mainly because Its not that bad despite some of its problems. A few registry tweaks, scratch that a LOT of registry tweaks go a long way Looking forward to windows 7! I like the freedom with Linux but I don't have the time needed to tinker with it and its a hassle. Hackintosh was alright when I used it, mac os is meh. mac hardware is sexy though. Gimme hardware and keep your OS apple ^^

windows vista on my laptop and windows XP at work.
i rooted to JF 1.42 RC33 but i fumbled my way through...i'm sure anyone with equal or lower "skillz" as me would greatly appreciate the automated root.
thx!

hellbringer626 said:
Hackintosh was alright when I used it, mac os is meh. mac hardware is sexy though. Gimme hardware and keep your OS apple ^^
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Heh, I'm the opposite. Mac hardware only looks good, but underneath its poorly put together and the designs are flawed. I can build a decent looking hackintosh that looks just as good. The OS, however, has a lot of potential assuming Apple allows people to customize their experience without hacking the OS to install a theme and stops locking it into their crappy hardware setup. After all its a heavily commercialized BSD hybrid that makes some things much easier.
MoridinBG said:
Linux here as a desktop OS since the times of Slackware 9.1
Windows XP for commercial development (C# )
I am giving Windows 7 a try too
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I take it what you're doing doesn't work with MONO (it supports up to C# 3.0)? I know people who do C# development work on Mac OS X thanks to MONO.

It cannot be categorized into one vote I need two.
Yeah I know it sucks but I have to have at least one machine with Windows because I am a gamer and until the day that Linux has the same level of 3D application/Gaming support I will always need windows.
Though for everything else I'm either testing the Kubuntu 9.04 Alpha or using Kubuntu 8.10.

I use Mac and the only thing I haven't been able to do with it is format my sd to EXT2, so I end up using my Vista In Parallels. Now, Does anybody knows why in my Mac shows ext2 as one of the format options but doesn't seems to work right

My Labtop Has Windows Vista and Ubuntu
And My Two Desktops Have Windows XP

Dual booted with Vista Ultimate x64 and Ubuntu.

Dual boot with Fedora 10 & Windows XP sp3
Windows xp gets used once in a blue moon to play a game. Most of the main windows applications I used can be run in wine these days. Everything else is vastly easier to do in linux.

I run XP at work, and Tri-boot of Vista/Win7/Ubuntu at home.
I would have thought that if you can't understand how to root your G1...you really don't need to root it in the first place??

I run almost exclusively Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04 on at least 5 machines (6 if you count the ps3 in). I run no dual boot but I have XP post SP3 in Virtualbox on my main machine for my bank but I will solve that later as the bank officially now supports Ubuntu but my current certificate is incompatible.
I run Ubuntu because I don't get any problem with viruses, trojans, malware, spyware and clogged registry. I also run Ubuntu because almost everything can be done from the command line. You can mod almost all parts of Ubuntu including Linux. It's free and I can make the modifications I want to the source code. Some applications and drivers are proprietary which can be a pain but that's how the current state is and usually you don't need so many proprietary parts. There are many free apps available via apt-get, both using official repository, ppa:s and external repositories. I find Linux distributions more modular than Windows. There's less problem with unsupported old hardware like in newer editions of Windows. Canon and HP skipped Vista support for both our scanner and printer. Only the basic features of the printer worked. In Ubuntu I get a lot more information from the printer with CUPS than with Vista and the inbuilt driver. The scanner was impossible to make work on x64 Vista. x86 worked but it was an ugly driver hack with the old xp driver and not optimal. Most hardware drivers for old components are built in into Linux.
I've tried Vista many times and it has not met my expectations of a good OS. My latest TX tablet crashed while I finished the configuration and went to burn the recovery discs. I tested ram and the harddrive and there were no problems. After running Ubuntu on that machine for quite a while I consider it stable. My previous TX computer had similar problems. The lack of drivers for old hardware, the lack of a good CLI and the need for all the protection makes me look elsewhere. Windows 7 is looking a lot better but It's far from what I want to use. I tried powershell and I just wanted to get out of there quickly. I've used MAC OSX including 10.1, 10.4 and 10.5 and I like it a lot. Unfortunately as you may have understood OSX is exclusively made for MAC:s. It runs on many x86/x86_64 pc:s but often there is always something not running properly.
If Apple would make OSX available for PC:s with BIOS (which they most likely won't because then they wouldn't sell as many MAC:s) I would use it. The Ubuntu GUI is good if you change the theme but Aqua on OSX is much better.
I think we are heading more towards cloud based OS:S / webOS:s /online-OS:s.
Sorry for the rant. I just felt like writing.

Debian linux testing version..

Side Loading Apps without Windows Developer Tools

First off, thank you to all the developers who put Windows Phone 7 onto the HD2.
First I was a Windows Mobile 6.5 fan, then I was a Gingerbread fan, now I'm definitely on the Windows Phone 7 bandwagon and will be looking to buy an HD7 when my contract expires.
That said, how does one go about sideloading applications? I've seen two programs that do it, but they both require a 64-bit version of Windows. Sadly I'm running an archaic 32-bit version of Vista.
Are there any other methods to side loading applications onto WP7?
Thanks,
Daniel

irulesoha said:
First off, thank you to all the developers who put Windows Phone 7 onto the HD2.
First I was a Windows Mobile 6.5 fan, then I was a Gingerbread fan, now I'm definitely on the Windows Phone 7 bandwagon and will be looking to buy an HD7 when my contract expires.
That said, how does one go about sideloading applications? I've seen two programs that do it, but they both require a 64-bit version of Windows. Sadly I'm running an archaic 32-bit version of Vista.
Are there any other methods to side loading applications onto WP7?
Thanks,
Daniel
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Dude, none of the available apps "require" x64 as far as I'm aware. I have used both the Dev tools and Toms Xap Installer on my x86 (32bit) laptop.
PS. x86 is far from "archaic"

BF3 Working fine in Win8

In case anyone else is wondering.
Origin and Battlefield 3 are both working just fine in windows 8.

Is it more or less fps in w8?

I would say it's about the same. Maybe a little better, but I was on Vista. I get a good frame rate either way at 1920x1080

There should really be no reason that games and most other software should not work in windows 8 as it really is basically just windows 7 with a new start screen UI added over the top. The only thing that could cause errors is potentially drivers which might have to be optimised for windows 8. Windows 8 so far does a good job with legacy applications and the new start screen in terms of interference. Other the that good to know that it works

leftspeaker2000 said:
There should really be no reason that games and most other software should not work in windows 8 as it really is basically just windows 7 with a new start screen UI added over the top. The only thing that could cause errors is potentially drivers which might have to be optimised for windows 8. Windows 8 so far does a good job with legacy applications and the new start screen in terms of interference. Other the that good to know that it works
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it is wrong to say it like that,but i may know what you were trying to say,but the main part of the OS is the metro start menu. desktop is treated as an application to run desktop software,not the other way around. thats like saying the ps2 is just a ps1 with the ps2 added on.

leftspeaker2000 said:
There should really be no reason that games and most other software should not work in windows 8 as it really is basically just windows 7 with a new start screen UI added over the top. The only thing that could cause errors is potentially drivers which might have to be optimised for windows 8. Windows 8 so far does a good job with legacy applications and the new start screen in terms of interference. Other the that good to know that it works
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You would be surprised how different the two are. For instance have you tried to install and use MS Office 2010 on Win8? You would think it would work, it doesn't...

From what I have read 99% of things that work on windows 7 will work on windows 7 although some will require modification to play nice. Office 2010 works fine with windows 8 as I have tested it.
The analogy that ps2 is just a ps1 with a ps2 attached is actually correct. The ps2 did have a full functional ps1 housed within the console. Windows 8 is built on the windows 7 kernel with Win RT added in at least from what i know, so if windows 8 was using a different kernel and then emulating windows 7 like compatibility mode does for windows 7 with regards to windows xp then you would be correct. I could be wrong though.

For what i've experienced, win8 run every single program i've installed (and they are many). It's my main OS used daily since the release. If one ignore the "metro app" it looks like win7, but a way better in performance.
Anyway there's a thread regarding games compatibility/performance!

Microsoft Automotive OS (Windows CE)

Morning everyone!
I recently bought a Cadillac CTS-V Coupe, and noticed that under information, it states the NAV system runs Microsoft Windows Automotive.
I did some recon, and found that this is a stipped down version of Windows CE? I've tried searching to see if anyone has done any hacking, I've seen a few basic mods/hacks, but nothing crazy like the stuff xda-devs push out...
Just wondering if there's been any work done on this? Any cool hacks?

So, you want to "hack" Windows (Embedded) Automotive (7), which is part of Microsoft's Windows Embedded family? What do you mean with "hack"? Please specify.
There is not, and there will probably never be a "hacker" or "modder" scene around devices running Windows Automotive, as all the SDKs are closed to the public and only acessible to manufacturers who signed a deal with Microsoft. There is no way of really adding functionality to these systems for a hobbyist, and even if there was of course it would validate any and all warrantys on the device.

jwoegerbauer said:
So, you want to "hack" Windows (Embedded) Automotive (7), which is part of Microsoft's Windows Embedded family? What do you mean with "hack"? Please specify.
There is not, and there will probably never be a "hacker" or "modder" scene around devices running Windows Automotive, as all the SDKs are closed to the public and only accessible to manufacturers who signed a deal with Microsoft. There is no way of really adding functionality to these systems for a hobbyist, and even if there was of course it would validate any and all warrantys on the device.
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I was just wondering if any work had maybe been done. I'm not familiar with the OS as you can tell. But from my previous experience in the Windows Mobile land and some hacking I've seen in the past on devices that ran CE I was just wondering if anything had been done...
I know there's been a few minor hacks and mods (re: interface changes, animations, pictures, voice prompts, map side-loading, etc...). But that's all I've read so far...

Zhariak said:
But from my previous experience in the Windows Mobile land and some hacking I've seen in the past on devices that ran CE I was just wondering if anything had been done...
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Windows Automotive is based on Windows Mobile, not on Windows CE. Perhaps 'unlockers' developped for Windows CE might do it, who knows?

jwoegerbauer said:
Windows Automotive is based on Windows Mobile, not on Windows CE. Perhaps 'unlockers' developped for Windows CE might do it, who knows?
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I read that it runs a Windows CE kernel, also read that it uses a lot of stuff that Windows Mobile uses... Main interest would be to see if it's possible to load up a complete Windows GUI (like what people did for the HTC Shift)...

I have a cts-v as well and I'm hoping to play with the latest nav software update disc (2012) when I receive it tomorrow. I know some have converted it to usb so it doesn't take 2-3 hours to update your system. I'm also wanting to see if I can do some mods/hacks/tweaks to it just to play around. Can you point me in the right direction on the mods/tweaks you've read about? Of course I'd just like to start out with images/sounds/slash screen stuff first.

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jwoegerbauer said:
Windows Automotive is based on Windows Mobile, not on Windows CE. Perhaps 'unlockers' developped for Windows CE might do it, who knows?
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what about windows embedded device like HP mediasmart connect x280n can you update it to windows embedded 8 pro

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Wondering if anyone ever did anything with these... I just bought one myself in my '09 CTS-4 . You can remove the hard drive and image it to your local hard drive and I have seen where people have been able to access the files within. Since Windows Mobile Auto is related to Windows mobile you should be able to use some of the same tools you would use with Windows Mobile. My understanding is that it is not a stripped down but a supped up version to support additional hardware and functionality. .Net code is byte code that is run by the runtime in standard windows and is easy to decode and reconstruct the source code. I am guessing windows Mobile is similar. You should be able to reconstruct enough that you can use the standard .DLL from windows mobile auto in a regular windows mobile development environment then just copy the finished file over... In theory anyhow... I have seen information that it may require signing but I am not sure that signing was necessary with Windows Mobile 5. I will be tearing apart my new NAV system before I install it to see what I can access in it.

Did you find anything? I'm looking to "hack" my 2011 Fusion Sport w/ Nav. Runs on similar platform based on my research.
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Wondering if anyone ever did anything with these... I just bought one myself in my '09 CTS-4 . You can remove the hard drive and image it to your local hard drive and I have seen where people have been able to access the files within. Since Windows Mobile Auto is related to Windows mobile you should be able to use some of the same tools you would use with Windows Mobile. My understanding is that it is not a stripped down but a supped up version to support additional hardware and functionality. .Net code is byte code that is run by the runtime in standard windows and is easy to decode and reconstruct the source code. I am guessing windows Mobile is similar. You should be able to reconstruct enough that you can use the standard .DLL from windows mobile auto in a regular windows mobile development environment then just copy the finished file over... In theory anyhow... I have seen information that it may require signing but I am not sure that signing was necessary with Windows Mobile 5. I will be tearing apart my new NAV system before I install it to see what I can access in it.
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latest version
Hi there
Can any body upload the latest disc for the Cadillac cts? or just sent a link to my email: [email protected]
thanks
Ronen

Activate legitimate Windows 8 Pro

Hi,
I had a legitimate Windows 7, and recently I bought a legitimate Windows 8 Pro upgrade. Al went fine until yesterday when my SSD disk crashed.
I changed hard disk, re download from official microsoft site the Windows 8 Pro, put it on a USB and reinstalled windows 8.
Now the Windows 8 does not activate since it is saying that it is an upgrade and not a clean install version.
Wht are my option now?
Losing one day of reinstalling Windows 7 and on top Windows 8 upgrade is out of the questions, unless Microsoft PAYS ME all the time it make me lose.
Thanks for any advice

Sadly, I don't think you can activate Windows 8 with a upgrade key, when you do a clean install. I'm staying away from the upgrade and going with the full version due to this. I wish I had something more to say, but if you want Windows 8, you'll have to reinstall Windows 7 and then perform the upgrade to activate with that key.

Konner920 said:
Sadly, I don't think you can activate Windows 8 with a upgrade key, when you do a clean install. I'm staying away from the upgrade and going with the full version due to this. I wish I had something more to say, but if you want Windows 8, you'll have to reinstall Windows 7 and then perform the upgrade to activate with that key.
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I prefer to look for a crack.
Dumb me having given my money to microsoft

Worst case install win7 does not even need to be activated. Then install Win8.
What you really need is just a Win8 installer that doesn't care about upgrade or not. The key will work with any disc that installs Win8 Pro.

claudioita said:
Hi,
I had a legitimate Windows 7, and recently I bought a legitimate Windows 8 Pro upgrade. Al went fine until yesterday when my SSD disk crashed.
I changed hard disk, re download from official microsoft site the Windows 8 Pro, put it on a USB and reinstalled windows 8.
Now the Windows 8 does not activate since it is saying that it is an upgrade and not a clean install version.
Wht are my option now?
Losing one day of reinstalling Windows 7 and on top Windows 8 upgrade is out of the questions, unless Microsoft PAYS ME all the time it make me lose.
Thanks for any advice
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Installing Windows 7 then Windows 8 is hardly a full days work, more like 5 minutes of work punctuated by 30 minutes worth of waiting. Also, Microsoft doesn't owe you anything if you failed to follow the terms of their licenses and can't get the software to work.
Also, note that you can do a clean install by booting off of the drive, there just has to be another copy of Windows present on the system (I took the HDD out of my laptop and put it in to get past this, didn't touch the HDD on my laptop and it let it activate)

Thanks for letting me know how absurd the terms of the license of the company microshot are.
Probably you are right I should have waisted another 4 or 5 hours reading their entire terms of license, eventually asking a lawyer his legal opinion, before understanding that is not worth to buy their product.
Now I know.

netham45 said:
Installing Windows 7 then Windows 8 is hardly a full days work, more like 5 minutes of work punctuated by 30 minutes worth of waiting. )
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Not when you don't have a windoz 7 cd, since it came pre-installed on my new laptop last year

Ah, yes, I forgot that coming across those rare Windows 7 discs is next to impossible and takes months of prepping and searching.
Also, you could have just googled it instead of reading the entire ToS, it's not like the cause to your issue isn't common knowledge or anything.
Your best route at this point is going to be either installing the release preview (and upgrading from that), finding the recovery discs that came with your laptop, or borrowing a friends recovery discs. None of which take a considerable amount of time, I might add.

netham45 said:
Ah, yes, I forgot that coming across those rare Windows 7 discs is next to impossible and takes months of prepping and searching.
Also, you could have just googled it instead of reading the entire ToS, it's not like the cause to your issue isn't common knowledge or anything.
Your best route at this point is going to be either installing the release preview (and upgrading from that), finding the recovery discs that came with your laptop, or borrowing a friends recovery discs. None of which take a considerable amount of time, I might add.
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If the answer is: go find a windows 7 disc somewhere (in my house there is none), google to find out the legalities of microshot, download a 2Gbyte file from the internet, , install the preview, then install the windows 8 pro upgrade and HOPE AND PRAY that all get well
and if something goes bad, maybe you would add that I should have googled for the solution to the "uncommon" problem.
No thanks, I send the computer to a repair shop. I hope they install me a cracked version. Or I may just switch to Apple.
Good bye.

Torrent the W8 release preview iso, upgrade from that.
Legal, easy.
claudioita said:
No thanks, I send the computer to a repair shop. I hope they install me a cracked version. Or I may just switch to Apple.
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If you can't handle something so simple, maybe you would be better off with Apple.

Echoing what everyone else says. You're mad because of a hardware fault and you are blaming Microsoft for something that you consciously chose. The upgrade disc only works if you have a copy of Windows 7 Available, because it doesn't include some core files that are standard. If you install Windows 8 using the Release Candidate disc through MSDN/Whatever, and then input your upgrade keys, you should be fine.
This thread doesn't belong in this subforum anyway, as it neither pertains to Development, or Hacking.

xenoletum said:
Echoing what everyone else says. You're mad because of a hardware fault and you are blaming Microsoft for something that you consciously chose. The upgrade disc only works if you have a copy of Windows 7 Available, because it doesn't include some core files that are standard. If you install Windows 8 using the Release Candidate disc through MSDN/Whatever, and then input your upgrade keys, you should be fine.
This thread doesn't belong in this subforum anyway, as it neither pertains to Development, or Hacking.
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Actually, all Windows 8 versions have the same core files, there's just this one file that makes them operate/install differently according to their given version (Core, Pro, VL, etc.) by using a specific product key. That's why you can still perform a clean install using an upgrade disc, but only certain keys that are capable of activating a clean install would work.
Now back to the problem. You can either install Windows 7 and upgrade to Windows 8, or try install Windows 8 again via clean install and add Media Center for free at Microsoft website. I'm not sure if it requires you an activated Windows 8 to add features or not. So yeah just trying to help.

downloaderintruder said:
Actually, all Windows 8 versions have the same core files, there's just this one file that makes them operate/install differently according to their given version (Core, Pro, VL, etc.) by using a specific product key. That's why you can still perform a clean install using an upgrade disc, but only certain keys that are capable of activating a clean install would work.
Now back to the problem. You can either install Windows 7 and upgrade to Windows 8, or try install Windows 8 again via clean install and add Media Center for free at Microsoft website. I'm not sure if it requires you an activated Windows 8 to add features or not. So yeah just trying to help.
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Why would that help? The media center key is for downloading media center, it won't activate 8.

claudioita said:
Hi,
I had a legitimate Windows 7, and recently I bought a legitimate Windows 8 Pro upgrade. Al went fine until yesterday when my SSD disk crashed.
I changed hard disk, re download from official microsoft site the Windows 8 Pro, put it on a USB and reinstalled windows 8.
Now the Windows 8 does not activate since it is saying that it is an upgrade and not a clean install version.
Wht are my option now?
Losing one day of reinstalling Windows 7 and on top Windows 8 upgrade is out of the questions, unless Microsoft PAYS ME all the time it make me lose.
Thanks for any advice
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I came across the same and fixed by following this it worked for me
Windows 8 users who noticed that the operating system can’t be activated after the installation may want to try the following workaround that worked to activate when installing Windows 8 using an upgrade on a clean PC.
Open regedit by pressing Windows-q, entering regedit and selecting the result from the list of hits.
Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Setup/OOBE/
Change MediaBootInstall from 1 to 0
Go back to the start screen and enter cmd there.
Right-click Command Prompt and select to run it as administrator.
Type slmgr /rearm on the command line and hit enter.
Reboot Windows now.
Run the activation utility afterwards, enter your product key to activate Windows.
Cheers !

xenoletum said:
Echoing what everyone else says. You're mad because of a hardware fault and you are blaming Microsoft for something that you consciously chose. The upgrade disc only works if you have a copy of Windows 7 Available, because it doesn't include some core files that are standard. If you install Windows 8 using the Release Candidate disc through MSDN/Whatever, and then input your upgrade keys, you should be fine.
This thread doesn't belong in this subforum anyway, as it neither pertains to Development, or Hacking.
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I am mad because I PAID for a legitimate Windows 7 operating system on a new Laptop that I paid for. No windows 7 CD came with the laptop. And I fully blame Macro**** for this.
This is a fully responsibility of Micro****: they know there are millions of user without Windows 7 CD and many of them are buying the upgrade to Windows 8 (fool us). And when something happens you have to bring it to a repair center, or lose incredible amount of time, surfing forums, asking questions all over, downloading Gigabytes of software and so on.
Yes, Microsoft is a horrible software house.
Other option Macrosh*t can do is say from the BEGINNING that your version is an upgrade and cannot be installed, instead of letting you install all the OS and then tell you. What a piece of **** company.

link68759 said:
Why would that help? The media center key is for downloading media center, it won't activate 8.
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Umm, I was just TRYING to help dumbass. Because I've done that before and it did activate because it sees it as a VALID PRODUCT KEY.

claudioita said:
I am mad because I PAID for a legitimate Windows 7 operating system on a new Laptop that I paid for. No windows 7 CD came with the laptop. And I fully blame Macro**** for this.
This is a fully responsibility of Micro****: they know there are millions of user without Windows 7 CD and many of them are buying the upgrade to Windows 8 (fool us). And when something happens you have to bring it to a repair center, or lose incredible amount of time, surfing forums, asking questions all over, downloading Gigabytes of software and so on.
Yes, Microsoft is a horrible software house.
Other option Macrosh*t can do is say from the BEGINNING that your version is an upgrade and cannot be installed, instead of letting you install all the OS and then tell you. What a piece of **** company.
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This is a little confusing. If you hate and you've hated Microsoft then why did you buy a brand new Windows 7 laptop and then willingly bought an upgrade to Windows 8. Hey seems like Macrosh*t still got what they wanted. Lol cheers :beer:
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downloaderintruder said:
Umm, I was just TRYING to help dumbass. Because I've done that before and it did activate because it sees it as a VALID PRODUCT KEY.
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I have an unactivated computer, I just tried it, "Before you can add features, you need to activate first".
I appreciate you were trying to help, but you don't know what you're talking about, go home.

claudioita said:
I am mad because I PAID for a legitimate Windows 7 operating system on a new Laptop that I paid for. No windows 7 CD came with the laptop. And I fully blame Macro**** for this.
This is a fully responsibility of Micro****: they know there are millions of user without Windows 7 CD and many of them are buying the upgrade to Windows 8 (fool us). And when something happens you have to bring it to a repair center, or lose incredible amount of time, surfing forums, asking questions all over, downloading Gigabytes of software and so on.
Yes, Microsoft is a horrible software house.
Other option Macrosh*t can do is say from the BEGINNING that your version is an upgrade and cannot be installed, instead of letting you install all the OS and then tell you. What a piece of **** company.
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Your just plain stupid, and not logical. The time you've waited posting nonsense could have been used to download an windows 7 iso, installed it and upgraded to WIN8 and be done with it.

This happened to me. If you do an upgrade of windows 8 over the windows 8 install you have now you will be good to go =D