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Hello all! After seeing my vibrant mod'd a buddy wants me to mod his hd2. I've researched alot in these forums and can't really decifer what way to go or what rom to choose.
I am leaning towards an sd installation. It seems easily reversable just in case something goes wrong and im not trying to brick a phone here. The vibrant is probly the easiest phone to mod and impossible to brick.
I know opinions vary and im not trying to create a pissing match here. im going for speed. Speed and reliability more than anything. So that once I boot the custom rom on to his device there wont be any glitches that pulling the battery wont fix. Thanks for your responses. *** no a holes please either, just some positive input and pros and cons of the different types of installations.
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welcome to HD2
I know coming to mod a new phone can be kind of a pain even if you're a pro on another, I had the same thing rooting, S-Off, flashing a ROM, and changing PRL to get a Dinc on Cricket (I'm on GSM...) so I know how ti goes.
Android on HD2 is different from any other phone. actually flashing to NAND is safer than any other phone because it is basically impossible to brick, here's why:
When you flash HSPL (hard SPL that is a modified bootloader with security off so you can flash custom ROMs and radios) you then flash another bootloader on top of it, called MAGLDR. This new bootloader allows you to flash WP7 to NAND, run Android off SD, or flash Android to NAND, it also has CWM support when flashed into it.
If anything ever goes wrong you can always load back into HSPL and just flash a stock WM ROM over MAGLDR and you're good, so it's an awesome fail safe.
My current set-up is WP7 on NAND and a very good, stable, awesome, fast CM7 ROM on SD, you can choose which you want to boot into when you turn it on.
I haven't used this tutorial but it looks simple and very easy to understand
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944288
If you JUST want Android I'd suggest going NAND with this ROM, it's a pretty awesome gingerbread ROM with some CM7 mods and other awesome features. Fast, stable, working everything, and the chef is really great with updates and support.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918899
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The only real way to brick this phone is to flash the wrong radio. To be on the safe side, do not flash any radio below 2.07.50.
The best radios I have found for Android are 2.12.50, 2.14.50, and 2.15.50, (the 2.15.50 being the best)
The best radio for WP7 seems to be 2.12.50.
Check the radio thread in HD2 WM development for the radio list and how to flash.

Orangeskid's 100% correct. The HD2 is probably one of the hardest phones to brick and there's no real point just going for SD because you're afraid to brick it as you won't.
Just make sure if its a TMo phone that you don't flash a .51 radio. That'll kill it.
Just flash 2.08.HSPL then a 2.15.50.14 radio. After that all you need to do is flash MAGLDR then Clockwork. I recommend a CM7 as they are definetly the fastest ROMs out there.
It's actually so much easier than a native Android device like a G2 *cough*.
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Thanks guys! I think ill try the nand way of things. At first glance it looks so damn intimidating, theres so many steps!
A few questions:
Does whatever radio i decide to flash conflict with any certain roms?(i was looking at the link you provided and thats probly what im going to use but it didnt say anything anywhere about radios)
And Is a custom kernel reccomended... Is it that much better than stock? (on the vibrant it makes a huge deal thats why im asking)
Overclocking: is it essential to overclock these devices and if so is the program on these phones setcpu? Or antother one? And is it ok to set on boot?
LOL! One last Q for now: After everythings said and done and installed is it ok to hit reboot from the power menu or would the user have to shut down and then power back on?
**all these questions are reffering to NAND**

No the radio doesn't. Just use the 2.15.50.14 one and you'll be fine. All the suitable kernels are built in to the Rom so you don't really have to worry about that. SetCPU is choice but I don't think there's any need but if you want the extra speed you can. Set on boot works too AFAIK. oh and yeah reboot will work properly. It's recommended to shut down and start again though.
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none of the radios above 2.12.50 seem to have any conflicts as far as I can tell.
Overclocking is pointless IMO, if your ROM doesn't work smooth as hell on 998mhz then the ROM is fubar and you should get another one. No sense putting your hardware at risk.
All kernels are "custom" since there is no official Android on HD2 build, I would just stay with whichever kernel comes in the ROM, the chefs here generally know what they are doing as far as which kernel to use. Tytung's kernel seems to be the best at the moment IMO for NAND.

One more question guys... thanks for all the info and guidance. Im in the usa and useing the tmobile hd2 am wondering if all the roms or more specspecifically the rom you gave me the link too work for that phone? Thanks again.
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davemw2 said:
One more question guys... thanks for all the info and guidance. Im in the usa and useing the tmobile hd2 am wondering if all the roms or more specspecifically the rom you gave me the link too work for that phone? Thanks again.
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everything works on all HD2s except you can flash a .51 radio on the euro version. This is obsolete since you won't be flashing anything below 2.12.50 anyways (or there's no reason for you to). Also some WM6.5 roms may be euro only.
So any Android ROM you see in the NAND or SD dev you can flash to any HD2 and be fine, and actually you have the advantage here. You see, the TMOUSA HD2 has 1gb ROM instead of the 512 in the Euro, so this means you can flash the Desire HD roms on NAND without having to squash everything and go thru a lot of ext parition drama, unless you still want to.
short answer is this: Flash whatever Android ROM you want, you're good to go.
edit: also note some ROMs have a tmo version and euro version, these are just optimized with APNs and set up to work with the network better, if you get a choice go with tmo, if not then that's fine too.

orangekid said:
everything works on all HD2s except you can flash a .51 radio on the euro version. This is obsolete since you won't be flashing anything below 2.12.50 anyways (or there's no reason for you to). Also some WM6.5 roms may be euro only.
So any Android ROM you see in the NAND or SD dev you can flash to any HD2 and be fine, and actually you have the advantage here. You see, the TMOUSA HD2 has 1gb ROM instead of the 512 in the Euro, so this means you can flash the Desire HD roms on NAND without having to squash everything and go thru a lot of ext parition drama, unless you still want to.
short answer is this: Flash whatever Android ROM you want, you're good to go.
edit: also note some ROMs have a tmo version and euro version, these are just optimized with APNs and set up to work with the network better, if you get a choice go with tmo, if not then that's fine too.
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thanks for useful info.....i am really in love wid HD2

Do I need hspl???

Hiya guys well to the point I have a hd2 in my possession and I think the usb port is broke some how so i can't install anything that requires a pc.... I was informed I might b able 2 install a custum windows rom is this possible and any suggestions for possible roms any help appreciated
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Yes you can flash custom ROMs via SD card but you still have to have HSPL flashed to your HD2 to be able to flash a custom ROM via SD card. Unfortunately you can only flash HSPL via USB and not SD card, so you can only flash stock ROMs on your HD2 unless you get the USB fixed. Sorry friend.

Thank you very much for the help at least I know now and I'm not gonna be wasting anymore time looking for solutions tink an unsolvable problem lol thanks again
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You haven't said whether its a regular hd2 or a tmous. (Tmous has red and green end and send, regular all white)
If it's a regular, then a goldcard will let you use any stock rom, opening the options a little, if its a tmous, then goldcard is of no benefit and you can disregard this post.

Its a regular hd2 mate plain white buttons ....is there anything u can recommend as in basically I realise I'm never gonna have android inbed here but is any modded or custom rom possible I'm not gettin my hopes up tho
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Not cooked roms but with a goldcard you can flash any stock rom meaning non branded (if the phone is branded) plus there are tons of tweaks and mods for winmo, go look up cookies home tab, you wont regret it! and as for android you can run it from SD card, no hspl required, , a very popular way.

Thanks for the tip gonna go look it up now
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If you have the time and patience to tweak it you can get an android build running from SD almost as smoothly as a nand build, keep WM and have the best of both.

[Q] Nand rom rooting question

I am currently working on a new rom for the HD2. This is based on [30.DEC.10][DFT]LEO "Stock Desire" NAND Android ROM
I am using this rom As I like a simple desire build. I am changing it from a DAF to CWM method and bringing it more up to date. I have been able to do this successfully and boot the phone.
I currently have two issues that I would like to fix.
1. The rom is not rooted. If I go in and install z4root and reboot, the rom is then rooted fine. Could someone point me to the files I need to root the rom?
2. I would like to update the kernel for example to Rafpigna's or tytung's but am un sure how to do this at the rom building stage.
Any advice would be appreciated.

Its already rooted, see "superuser" in your list of apps

samsamuel said:
Its already rooted, see "superuser" in your list of apps
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Ah yes it is rooted but if you install the standard version with out any modifications and then install root explorer for example, it does not prompt me to allow root access and only give me read only mode. If I look in superuser the app is not there.
If I then root using z4root root explorer then works perfectly!
I have also checked through out the daf thread and multiple people are having the same issue!

Any help guys??

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Its already rooted, see "superuser" in your list of apps
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You're wrong, this first ever NAND ROM wasn't rooted.
Come on... if you are really "deving" you shouldn't ask such questions. It's like you would like to repair a car and ask on forums where is engine (maybe not best example but I think you undestand what I mean).
Why you use DFT release if there is already rooted prj Desire based on DFT and there is skink Clean Desire based on prj's build?

@raven,
I can't agree with you on this one. He's trying to learn to become a dev. Everyone hit blockage. All these development build on failures toward success. The current problems can be silly questions but you wouldn't know his skills and improvement he would bring toward the current development.

[Q] Can this ROM safely be used on Tmous HD2 {Scared}

I Want to run this ROM http://en.miui.com/a-52.html from MIUI's official site this is a ROM for the HD2 but it does not specify if it can run on the T-Mobile branded HD2 and i really want to flash it to my HD2 Tmous, but i do not want a brick can anyone tell me if this ROM is safe to flash i already have android on the HD2 tmous but i just want to get this build on there.

Operation-A said:
I Want to run this ROM http://en.miui.com/a-52.html from MIUI's official site this is a ROM for the HD2 but it does not specify if it can run on the T-Mobile branded HD2 and i really want to flash it to my HD2 Tmous, but i do not want a brick can anyone tell me if this ROM is safe to flash i already have android on the HD2 tmous but i just want to get this build on there.
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ANY Android ROM can be flashed onto a TMOUS phone. The only thing you have to be worried about is radios (and as a result Stock ROMs). As long as you have a radio above 2.08.50 you shouldn't brick a TMOUS.

all the android roms treat the regular and tmous the same, , only difference is the rom size. (there are a few large roms that need a tmous to flash, but not many)
The danger you have heard about regarding the tmous vs regular, can only come about if you flash a bad radio (either on its own or as part of a non tmous windows mobile ((not wp7)) stock rom.
SO, you already have a compatible radio (all tmous radios are compatible with android/magldr/clk), so all you have to do is never flash a non tmous stock rom, which there is very very rarely a need to do anyway, , most people here have managed to avoid flashing a winmo rom for the past two years.

samsamuel said:
all the android roms treat the regular and tmous the same, , only difference is the rom size. (there are a few large roms that need a tmous to flash, but not many)
The danger you have heard about regarding the tmous vs regular, can only come about if you flash a bad radio (either on its own or as part of a non tmous windows mobile ((not wp7)) stock rom.
SO, you already have a compatible radio (all tmous radios are compatible with android/magldr/clk), so all you have to do is never flash a non tmous stock rom, which there is very very rarely a need to do anyway, , most people here have managed to avoid flashing a winmo rom for the past two years.
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Awesome!!!! Thank you guys and also does a task 29 cause me to have to reinstall hspl and maglr and clockwork all over again or can i task 29 and flash the ROM by turning on the phone going into maglr and flashing in clockwork

Trust me, don't bother Task29ing. If any guide you read states it as a necessary first step, you should probably ignore it.
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Nigeldg said:
Trust me, don't bother Task29ing. If any guide you read states it as a necessary first step, you should probably ignore it.
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The only reason I asked about it was my HD2 is having an issue with ROM flashes it seems to only boot Nexus HD2 gingerbread now for some reason I don't know may be a lost issue now don't know i haven't flashed anything for some time now well lets see what happens without task 29

Operation-B said:
The only reason I asked about it was my HD2 is having an issue with ROM flashes it seems to only boot Nexus HD2 gingerbread now for some reason I don't know may be a lost issue now don't know i haven't flashed anything for some time now well lets see what happens without task 29
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It's probably because of the insufficient partitions sizes. As long as you repartition, you shouldn't worry.

I formated partitions like you said by looking around the forum and i figured it all out yay thanks everyone for all your help this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044830 is amazing thanks all of you again thank youuu

Operation-A said:
I formated partitions like you said by looking around the forum and i figured it all out yay thanks everyone for all your help this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044830 is amazing thanks all of you again thank youuu
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which ROM have you installed?
I am having the same problems with a TMOUS. Rom installations most of the times don't go well...
I'm not able to boot into the rom after installation. Now I managed (after many tries) to boot into touchWizMod 1.0
But it's far from stable. Any suggestion?
I used to do task29 + radio (2.15 radio for TMOUS) all the times, but now i'm just repartitioning the cwm with hd2 toolkit. could this be a problem?
PS radio downloaded from here: http://www.rhiffsta.ch/LEO_Radio/list.html

bad news: it seemed that it was working fine, but after rebooting to insert the SIM it booted but had no signal no network...nothing!!!
rebooted again---> now i'm stuck at the margld GO GO GO
EDIT after some minutes without the battery, it is booting again, but it freezes after inserting the pin to unlock the sim.
what kind of problem this could be?

[Q] HTC HD2 S-OFF Android install

Hi fellow members,
I recently bought a HD2 as it is a beast. However i wan to install the Hyper droid rom or any other android rom. But i don't know whether the following information makes a difference. In the listing it said
The device has a HTC unlocked bootloader (S-OFF) as it was a developer device provided by HTC.
Do i install the rom as normal using the newbie guide or do i have do some other stuff.
Thanks

Lucky you
AFAIK, the fact that your phone is S-off means that there is no need to flash HSPL to unlock the bootloader, it is unlocked. So you should be able to flash an android rom.
But I have not heard of a phone like yours on this site. It may be unique.
Before doing anything at all to your nand, i would suggest using an sd rom, or NativeSD for now for android, until someone else, with more knowledge than me, can find out whether your bootloader is useful for the HD2 community.
Meanwhile, can you provide more info- What OS is installed now? Is it EU or TMOUS (512 or 1024Mb nand)? What is your sdcard size/type (useful to know for NativeSD)? Radio version?
Thanks

ajayhp said:
Hi fellow members,
I recently bought a HD2 as it is a beast. However i wan to install the Hyper droid rom or any other android rom. But i don't know whether the following information makes a difference. In the listing it said
The device has a HTC unlocked bootloader (S-OFF) as it was a developer device provided by HTC.
Do i install the rom as normal using the newbie guide or do i have do some other stuff.
Thanks
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can you explain what do you mean by s-off?
can you post any photos of bootloader?

Robbie P said:
Lucky you
AFAIK, the fact that your phone is S-off means that there is no need to flash HSPL to unlock the bootloader, it is unlocked. So you should be able to flash an android rom.
But I have not heard of a phone like yours on this site. It may be unique.
Before doing anything at all to your nand, i would suggest using an sd rom, or NativeSD for now for android, until someone else, with more knowledge than me, can find out whether your bootloader is useful for the HD2 community.
Meanwhile, can you provide more info- What OS is installed now? Is it EU or TMOUS (512 or 1024Mb nand)? What is your sdcard size/type (useful to know for NativeSD)? Radio version?
Thanks
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gilbert32 said:
can you explain what do you mean by s-off?
can you post any photos of bootloader?
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Flash size is 512Mb
Ram: 448mb
data bus: 32 bits
OS version: 5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)
Radio: 2.05.51.05_2
I have a spare 2gb sd card lying around. which guide do you recommend me following

Actually the phone isn't unique, see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501745, but is rare.
I got confused with the S-off description.

Robbie P said:
Actually the phone isn't unique, see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501745, but is rare.
I got confused with the S-off description.
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So can I install the rom as normal using the guides with MAGDLR via NAND.
Or do you recommend me using a SD card.
Thanks for your quick reply.

I think before you du anything to this device you sould try to dump the SPL, because this SPL could be the Key to make our HD2 to a completly native Android Device and mayby it would be a big loss for the HD2 community if you lose this SPL by a mistake...

Partitionator said:
I think before you du anything to this device you sould try to dump the SPL, because this SPL could be the Key to make our HD2 to a completly native Android Device and mayby it would be a big loss for the HD2 community if you lose this SPL by a mistake...
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Actually, I PMed the OP of this thread, and several others who had the same spl on their phones and had posted on the forum, but to no avail. No-one replied
But fortunately, I think @symbuzzer has found the spl in an old WM6.5 rom, since he posted a picture of his phone with "security unlocked" in another place.

But he still couldn't flash unsinged radios or did I overlook something?
Btw I have 3 semi working HD2 boards if there is something risky I would test it because its not a big loss if i brick one oft this semi working boards
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Partitionator said:
But he still couldn't flash unsinged radios or did I overlook something?
Btw I have 3 semi working HD2 boards if there is something risky I would test it because its not a big loss if i brick one oft this semi working boards
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Thanks, that could be helpful, let's see what symbuzzer says.

But it would still hurt to brick obe of these, but i think thats would be it worth
If someobe told me hiw to decompile and recompile spls I would try things by myself...
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EDIT: I want to try this WM ROM with S-OFF SPL. Can I simply flash this ROM from SD with HSPL 2.08, because I read about problem with flashing from SD with HSPL 2.08... I have the EU HD2
EDIT2: ok I don´t think that i can flash it because the filename says TMOUS and the Baseband thats in this ROM would brick my EU Model: http://d-h.st/ox8
EDIT3: Seems like Cotulla hast a SPL-Emulator: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433 maybe he can give it to use, that would be a better solution instead of bricking my boards