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I decided that I want to upgrade my ROM to unlock the 30 fps video on my x1a. But I want to backup all of my text messages before I do so. And I want to be able to restore them all as threaded SMS, just as they were before the upgrade. Before you guys go bashing me for wanting to backup my messages, I have personal reasons for wanting to do this, so there's no need to ask "why would you want to backup all your messages for" and other stuff like that. Just because their not important to you doesn't mean their not to somebody else lol. And I have also searched the forum for programs that backup sms, but they restore them as individual messages (not threaded) which is not what I want.
So my question is: is there a program out there that will allow me to backup and restore my SMS as THREADS? Or should I wait to get a Windows My Phone invite to do this?
I use PIMbackup. It will restore the SMS and you can choose the threads options subsequently.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-pim-backup-v2-8.html
i tried using PIMBackup before, but i don't remember seeing a threading messages option. how do you do this?
Isn't the 30fps video a hardware issue??
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I decided that I want to upgrade my ROM to unlock the 30 fps video on my x1a. But I want to backup all of my text messages before I do so. And I want to be able to restore them all as threaded SMS, just as they were before the upgrade. Before you guys go bashing me for wanting to backup my messages, I have personal reasons for wanting to do this, so there's no need to ask "why would you want to backup all your messages for" and other stuff like that. Just because their not important to you doesn't mean their not to somebody else lol. And I have also searched the forum for programs that backup sms, but they restore them as individual messages (not threaded) which is not what I want.
So my question is: is there a program out there that will allow me to backup and restore my SMS as THREADS? Or should I wait to get a Windows My Phone invite to do this?
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I couldn't agree more. I dont see why a company as huge as Microsoft cant incorporate this into WMDC/ActiveSync. It is one thing I really miss about my Blackberry.
PIMBackup works perfect even with threaded messages I checked that few times and it's works fine
but how do i restore all messages as threads with PIMBackup? cuz from what I remember, it was restoring them as individual messages, making my phone move very sluggishly, so i stopped the restoration process. If I let it finish, will all the messages be threaded or something?
when you use PIMBackup, it will backup the way it was and restore them the way it was. There is no option to choose threaded or not, it just backs it up threaded or non-threaded.
So yea, PIMBackup is the way to go!
The X1 got sluggish because it was doing something intensive. Let it finish before you make your mind up that it doesn't do what you think it should.
It's a superb piece of software, very well written and does exactly what it says on the tin. It backs up and restores all of your PIM.
Messages restored will be threaded.
After restore phone is threading restored messages so it's need a bit of resources.
Go into messaging->sms and watch, threads will showing in real time and on the bottom bar it'll showing which messages are processing now
Hi everyone.
I am using Handcent on my Legend for my text messages. Yesterday when I got a text message, Handcent gave out a general error and had to close. When I re-opened it, ALL my text mesages were gone!
I was looking into HTC support pages, and they claim that when automatic backup is ON, it automatically saves settings and sms messages which are restored after doing a "Restore to fActory settings". I'm a bit sceptical of this, and before I blow away all my settings for nothing, wanted to know if anyone tried this, and if it actually worked...
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I tried this two times. Once it works, secondly not! I have then no message in Message application, but there were my smss in sms widget on destkop!! Really strange. So I installed afterwards some sms backup applications and finally I recovered and backed up cca half of my 2000 sms.
After two years with windows mobile i started to hate it and was looking forward to android, but after this experience, I wanted to throw the Legend with Android out of the window.... my fault was that I trusted to HTC BACKUP, which let me down. I should make an additional backup of sms when I was recovering phone. Hope this helps .
It has... I'll give it a shot then. I have after this experience installed sms backup....
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After two years with windows mobile i started to hate it and was looking forward to android, but after this experience, I wanted to throw the Legend with Android out of the window"
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---> Same feeling!!!!
I had the phone for a week now, did couple of factory resets (when playing around with stuff), and yesterday morning I permrooted and HBOOTed the phone...
The phone overall works great, really no complaints, but 10 minutes ago I receive an SMS and open up Messages, and the only SMS I have the in whole app is the one that I have received...so all my SMSes (5834 to be precise) have vanished into thin air...
I am doing another restore right now, thank god I have it on the card...
It's pretty worrying that the phone would be so unrealiable to erase information...
There are two more guys with DHDs on AndroidForum with the same issue:
http://androidforums.com/desire-hd-support-troubleshooting/214946-sms-have-all-disappeared.html
Has any1 else had that happen?
happened a few times to me too, but cannot trace it down to a specific reason...
this IS annoying and forces me to backup my sms on a daily basis!
Wow, that definitely blows...and you have stock DHD, so rooting/HBOOT mods are definitely not the reason...
If it will be a regular occurence I might as well throw the phone in the trash, coz to backup 5000+ SMSes on daily basis, no thank you...
iPhone had no issues with all those SMSes for years, it can't be the sheer number of them...
Nope not to do with size as it happend to me and i only had 300-400 texts altogether before it happened. Btw when it happened to you did ur messages app FC then u have to restart only to find no texts?
Whoa this worries me, how should I go about backing up my messages? I'm all synced with HTC Sense, won't that keep em backed up?
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Btw when it happened to you did ur messages app FC then u have to restart only to find no texts?
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Elaborate on the question a little bit for me, I didn't quite understand you!
I received a SMS, and I just wanted to send a text back, pressed Messages only to find it's completely blank.
Restarted the phone and nothing still blank.
I also had an issue with it today that it didn't store calls I made in Call History, after I restarted it, it started working again though.
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Whoa this worries me, how should I go about backing up my messages? I'm all synced with HTC Sense, won't that keep em backed up?
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SMS Backup & Restore by Ritesh Sahu...it's avalabile on the market...HTC Sense can only back them up, but not restore them back to the phone (not that I know a way to anyway)...
http://android.riteshsahu.com/apps/sms-backup-restore
This presents a real problem for me, as it makes it a useless phone...I need a phone for calling and SMSes primarily...everything else comes second...
This happened to my Desire Z today, at around the same time as the OP.
braby said:
Elaborate on the question a little bit for me, I didn't quite understand you!
I received a SMS, and I just wanted to send a text back, pressed Messages only to find it's completely blank.
Restarted the phone and nothing still blank.
I also had an issue with it today that it didn't store calls I made in Call History, after I restarted it, it started working again though.
SMS Backup & Restore by Ritesh Sahu...it's avalabile on the market...HTC Sense can only back them up, but not restore them back to the phone (not that I know a way to anyway)...
http://android.riteshsahu.com/apps/sms-backup-restore
This presents a real problem for me, as it makes it a useless phone...I need a phone for calling and SMSes primarily...everything else comes second...
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There is an app in the market that you can use to backup and restore messages to and from ur gmail acc. this app also has an setting to backup an sms right away when it receives one. dont know the exact name (phone battery empty) but i found it when i was searching for backup sms in the market.
Hope this helps you.
Sorry for my vague description, here it is again in more detail
I received a text message from a friend and i received a notification in my noti-bar
I pulled the bar down and click the message, it then tried to open the messages apk
it force closed saying htc.messages.apk or something hast FC'ed...
I thought lets just restart and it will all be happy days again
I restarted and open the text fine, but when i pressed back to go into my inbox i noticed there were no other text message!
And that's exactly how it happened
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Sorry for my vague description, here it is again in more detail
I received a text message from a friend and i received a notification in my noti-bar
I pulled the bar down and click the message, it then tried to open the messages apk
it force closed saying htc.messages.apk or something hast FC'ed...
I thought lets just restart and it will all be happy days again
I restarted and open the text fine, but when i pressed back to go into my inbox i noticed there were no other text message!
And that's exactly how it happened
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Ah ok, now I got it!
As far as I can recollect there was no app crash on mine, just pulled up empty file.
I thought maybe when I restart the phone things will get back to normal (like they did with call history), but it didn't...Messages were still blank.
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This happened to my Desire Z today, at around the same time as the OP.
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Hmmm...this almost makes me wonder if this is somehow not related to HTCSense.com...
It's just weird that it happened to both of us at about the same time...
If it happens again I'll disable syncing with HTCSense (it's more or less useless anyway, I have local file backups of both), and see if it happens after that...
My HTCSense message log is completely empty, too. I don't think it ever worked.
I had this happen a few weeks back. I opened a new text message and the messages widget crashed. All my messages seem to have been deleted. I was quite concerned as my messages contain important information (I did got to the trouble of migrating them from my old phone)...an email from HTC to see if the emails were deleted (or just not visible as some have reported on other forums) and if there was a way to get them back elicited this response:
Thanks for contacting HTC.
We appreciate your support for our products.
We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience. Thank you for bringing your concern to our attention. With regard to your question, unfortunately, once messages are deleted from the SMS widget, you can no longer retrieve it, unless you have a back up from your SD card or to your SIM card.
Should you encounter any difficulties or have any concerns we have provided, please feel free to contact us again.
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Needless to say this jumble of standard form responses did not answer my question. A further question about how I could possibly avoid this situation in the future; their response...
We appreciate your support for our products.
Thanks for the update. With regards to your concern, please be advised that this is a rare issue that happened to your phone. We will forward this concern to our technical support team for future developments. We advise you to perform a soft reset on your phone. To perform a soft reset, remove the battery, wait for a few seconds, and then re-install it. After re-installing the battery, turn on the phone.
Should you encounter any difficulties or have any concerns we have provided, please feel free to contact us again.
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Rather than bash my head further against a brick wall, I downloaded an app to forward my SMS messages to my gmail as a safe guard and copied what messages I could from the only part of HTC sense that was partially working for me.
I had the same with my HTC Desire Z
I received a SMS, and when I opened it, all my messages were gone, except for the received message.
I read in the official android bug-forum, that this might be a issue with sqlite, but it has not yet been fixed in android 2.2. luckily I just migrated everything so most of my sms are in a backup.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=5669
I have had the same issue a few times with the Desire HD ROM running on my HTC HD2...this is ridiculous.
Guys, I experienced these as well. I realised that when this happens, my messages are actually in HTCSense.com... The weird thing is, before having my DHD I was using HD2 with DHD rom... Then when I got my phone 2 days ago, those sms' which were not supposed to be in this phone reappeared... All the histories I had in my HD2 were in... I suppose this is an act of HTCSense.com...
me too!
This happened to me a few days ago..
I went to reply to a text message that I'd forgotten about and my list was blank!
I went to create a new text and it popped up saying the messages app had crashed.. I killed the process and no luck - crashed again.
Restarted the phone and the messages were still gone..
In terms of non-stock apps/configuration that may be worth mentioning I have:
Android Task Killer
Superuser/VISIONary
Titanium Backup
The only other thing I have done is enabled usb diagnostics (recommended in another thread to stop the occasional lag).
Anyone got any ideas?
Now it happend to me, too!
Performed a hard reset on tuesday and everything went finse since than. SMS were automaticly backed up from HTCSense. But 10 Minutes ago all my text massages were gone... They are still on my HTCSense account - but how to restore???
Thats a mess...
Tough luck guys!
I guess I won't be logging in to HTC Sense anytime soon
Tried to restore my SMS with my SMS BackUp programm. Got the notification "Successfully restored 119 items (2663 dups)."
But on my DHD are only the 119 sms...
Seems that there are still some left-overs the massage widget cannot read.
Ideas anyone?
Nobody an idea? or the same problem?
I'm running CM7 on my Evo and have amassed a few thousand texts over the past year (I backup and restore texts each time I wipe my phone for a new ROM), but tonight they all just vanished and Handcent is empty now. Anyone have any idea what might have happened?
Interestingly someone else was asking about this last week. Then a few days later I received a text and it wiped all of my other texts. Now you lost your texts too. I'm on cm7 stable and gosms but i'm not sure what the other person was running. Maybe a bug?
I know it's too late now, but you really should get SMS Backup and restore. It's free and backing up 1000 messages takes all of 10 seconds.
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I know it's too late now, but you really should get SMS Backup and restore. It's free and backing up 1000 messages takes all of 10 seconds.
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Yeah, I have MyBackup Pro, but never scheduled any regular backups. Oh well, it's probably a good thing to start over...technically, I didn't NEED any of those texts...no big deal.
nukedukem does make a point though, this MIGHT be a bug in CM7...will have to post over in that thread and see if anyone else has had this problem.
Is there any quick way of restoring a large number of text messages, either from flashing somehow, titanium backup, or any other method? Maybe manually index all the messages so my message app(s) don't lock up, my phone doesn't lag, and my phone doesn't get forced to reboot? Or maybe restoring it by parts? (not sure how to split my conversations, one of them is 18k messages).
I just went from 4.4 to 5.0 recently (still rooted), and used SMS Backup & Restore to back up my texts. After a few hours of restoring, I managed to restore nearly 35k of texts. However, it's taking forever for the messages to be indexed. I would get unresponsive "do you want to wait or close the messages app" on both the stock Samsung and the Messages+ app. If I knew for sure that it just takes time and I should just keep the messages app open, I'd do it, but I've had it open for a few hours with nothing to show for it. The reason I did this was because the Messages+ app from Verizon only restores the past 90 days, when I wanted all of my existing texts ported over. Any suggestions?
Spartan117H3 said:
Is there any quick way of restoring a large number of text messages, either from flashing somehow, titanium backup, or any other method? Maybe manually index all the messages so my message app(s) don't lock up, my phone doesn't lag, and my phone doesn't get forced to reboot? Or maybe restoring it by parts? (not sure how to split my conversations, one of them is 18k messages).
I just went from 4.4 to 5.0 recently (still rooted), and used SMS Backup & Restore to back up my texts. After a few hours of restoring, I managed to restore nearly 35k of texts. However, it's taking forever for the messages to be indexed. I would get unresponsive "do you want to wait or close the messages app" on both the stock Samsung and the Messages+ app. If I knew for sure that it just takes time and I should just keep the messages app open, I'd do it, but I've had it open for a few hours with nothing to show for it. The reason I did this was because the Messages+ app from Verizon only restores the past 90 days, when I wanted all of my existing texts ported over. Any suggestions?
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35k text messages? For real? Lol
Titanium can definitely do it but I have a feeling once you climb to that sort of a number any app use is going to take a while and the ROM is probably going to think its choked. Does it eventually finish if you wait an hour?
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grnsl2 said:
35k text messages? For real? Lol
Titanium can definitely do it but I have a feeling once you climb to that sort of a number any app use is going to take a while and the ROM is probably going to think its choked. Does it eventually finish if you wait an hour?
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Yeah, according to SMS Backup & Restore.
The restore finished after a few hours. Actually indexing the texts which I thought should have been done with the restore process? For a few hours, it's been stuck saying I have the same 19 unread messages, has been locking up both my ability to navigate anywhere (locks up sometimes), and sometimes even reboots my phone.
I'm trying to figure out a way to either flash all my texts back (flashing my backup with those texts intact works just fine), or somehow restoring them by splitting them up in chunks maybe a few thousand at a time (no idea how to do this).
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Yeah, according to SMS Backup & Restore.
The restore finished after a few hours. Actually indexing the texts which I thought should have been done with the restore process? For a few hours, it's been stuck saying I have the same 19 unread messages, has been locking up both my ability to navigate anywhere (locks up sometimes), and sometimes even reboots my phone.
I'm trying to figure out a way to either flash all my texts back (flashing my backup with those texts intact works just fine), or somehow restoring them by splitting them up in chunks maybe a few thousand at a time (no idea how to do this).
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If you have a backup of all of your texts then why are you trying to use SMS that seems to be locking up and causing you pain. Titanium may do the same thing, just got to give it a shot. I don't have 35 thousand texts to F around with and tell you what my results are. Good luck!
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If you have a backup of all of your texts then why are you trying to use SMS that seems to be locking up and causing you pain. Titanium may do the same thing, just got to give it a shot. I don't have 35 thousand texts to F around with and tell you what my results are. Good luck!
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The backup is from 4.4. I went to 5.0 with a factory reset.
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The backup is from 4.4. I went to 5.0 with a factory reset.
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So I've used SMS quite a few times in my rom charades. My suggestion would be that when you do a restore do the restore for the last 6 months and then a second restore earlier but skip duplicates. At least then you're splitting it in half? I don't know how many months 35000 texts go back but that's worth a shot.
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So I've used SMS quite a few times in my rom charades. My suggestion would be that when you do a restore do the restore for the last 6 months and then a second restore earlier but skip duplicates. At least then you're splitting it in half? I don't know how many months 35000 texts go back but that's worth a shot.
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I did something like that, Messages+ synced the last 90 days worth of texts, but 35k is from a little over a year's worth?
I tested restoring data only from FlashFire, which does properly restore texts but I'm getting screwed because I restored from 4.4 onto a 5.0 rom, so a ton of apps aren't happy with me, and I'm not sure if I've screwed anything up. I do know I'll need to re-install my xposed for 5.0 at the very least.
Edit: am currently trying it in smaller chunks. No idea how I'm going to do the one 18k conversation from the past 5 months though.
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I did something like that, Messages+ synced the last 90 days worth of texts, but 35k is from a little over a year's worth?
I tested restoring data only from FlashFire, which does properly restore texts but I'm getting screwed because I restored from 4.4 onto a 5.0 rom, so a ton of apps aren't happy with me, and I'm not sure if I've screwed anything up. I do know I'll need to re-install my xposed for 5.0 at the very least.
Edit: am currently trying it in smaller chunks. No idea how I'm going to do the one 18k conversation from the past 5 months though.
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If you use Google's Messaging+ for your default txt app they are stored on Google servers, accessible on any device, tablet and your desktop and restore to any phone you activate automatically.
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If you use Google's Messaging+ for your default txt app they are stored on Google servers, accessible on any device, tablet and your desktop and restore to any phone you activate automatically.
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When you say google, you mean Verizon's? That's what I'm using. But it only restores up to 90 days maximum from the current date you start the restoration. Even if you have texts existing within 90 days, if the time stamp of those texts are not within 90, they don't get restored.
Anyways, as an update, I've been restoring messages ~6k at a time. There's little to no indexing after sms backup and restore is finished. So it seems it will work for the rest of them. Too bad I had to flash to a backup before my initial 35k just to be able to access my messages app once again.
Edit: Ended up fixing it by loading my texts 6-8k at a time.