Backing up and restoring SMS messages as threads? - XPERIA X1 General

I decided that I want to upgrade my ROM to unlock the 30 fps video on my x1a. But I want to backup all of my text messages before I do so. And I want to be able to restore them all as threaded SMS, just as they were before the upgrade. Before you guys go bashing me for wanting to backup my messages, I have personal reasons for wanting to do this, so there's no need to ask "why would you want to backup all your messages for" and other stuff like that. Just because their not important to you doesn't mean their not to somebody else lol. And I have also searched the forum for programs that backup sms, but they restore them as individual messages (not threaded) which is not what I want.
So my question is: is there a program out there that will allow me to backup and restore my SMS as THREADS? Or should I wait to get a Windows My Phone invite to do this?

I use PIMbackup. It will restore the SMS and you can choose the threads options subsequently.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-pim-backup-v2-8.html

i tried using PIMBackup before, but i don't remember seeing a threading messages option. how do you do this?

Isn't the 30fps video a hardware issue??

Bennieficial said:
I decided that I want to upgrade my ROM to unlock the 30 fps video on my x1a. But I want to backup all of my text messages before I do so. And I want to be able to restore them all as threaded SMS, just as they were before the upgrade. Before you guys go bashing me for wanting to backup my messages, I have personal reasons for wanting to do this, so there's no need to ask "why would you want to backup all your messages for" and other stuff like that. Just because their not important to you doesn't mean their not to somebody else lol. And I have also searched the forum for programs that backup sms, but they restore them as individual messages (not threaded) which is not what I want.
So my question is: is there a program out there that will allow me to backup and restore my SMS as THREADS? Or should I wait to get a Windows My Phone invite to do this?
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I couldn't agree more. I dont see why a company as huge as Microsoft cant incorporate this into WMDC/ActiveSync. It is one thing I really miss about my Blackberry.

PIMBackup works perfect even with threaded messages I checked that few times and it's works fine

but how do i restore all messages as threads with PIMBackup? cuz from what I remember, it was restoring them as individual messages, making my phone move very sluggishly, so i stopped the restoration process. If I let it finish, will all the messages be threaded or something?

when you use PIMBackup, it will backup the way it was and restore them the way it was. There is no option to choose threaded or not, it just backs it up threaded or non-threaded.
So yea, PIMBackup is the way to go!

The X1 got sluggish because it was doing something intensive. Let it finish before you make your mind up that it doesn't do what you think it should.
It's a superb piece of software, very well written and does exactly what it says on the tin. It backs up and restores all of your PIM.
Messages restored will be threaded.

After restore phone is threading restored messages so it's need a bit of resources.
Go into messaging->sms and watch, threads will showing in real time and on the bottom bar it'll showing which messages are processing now

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cannot receive any new SMS

hi all
i just found out that i cannot receivce any sms anymore.
this is really hard to notice if you don't KNOW that someone is sending you an sms . so i can't tell till when it did work, and when it stopped working.
anyone got the same problem before? this happened to me the second time now, and the only solution (for me) was to HARD reset the device (which is no real fun ).
any ideas?
regards ize|man
Have you, after doing a ROM install, carried out a Sprite Backup Restore?
If so, that's your problem.
Don't ask me why (just do a search on this forum for more users examples), but when you restore the SMS/Email folders as part of a Sprite Backup restore, it corrupts the sms so that notifications are not shown, and the messages are not listed/stored.
In effect, invisible sms.
So far, I've not heard a single response to any user from the peeps at Sprite about this, even though this is a common and widely known problem now. But to be fair, i don't wish to be too harsh, as I find it a life saving application. How I got round it was to run the restore option on the phone NOT the PC (as this is the only way you can do a SELECTIVE restore of items), and unticked anything relating to sms/emails.
Then I found I had a decent restored phone (albeit minus any emails/sms), but with SMS working properly.
Let me know if this might be the case with you...
@shadamere
i'm afraid you're damn right i did use sprite backup - and i did (of course) restore my sms folder and me inbox folder.
i thought about that possibility as well - but wasn't sure of course. now that you're telling me it's sprite backup i can search for that in the forum.
and, i agree with you too: it is a very important app for me as well because i like playing around with a lot of programs ans roms ect....
thanks a lot for the help
bzw: maybe this could help: i just read about a sprite backup 3.0 (though no info on the homepage so far)
regards ize|man
had the same problem...
I had the same problem; ended up having to flash the damn thing and re-install all of my applications.
I DO use Sprite Backup, but I have no idea if I had done a restore or not and whether that terminated the capability.
HELP AND ADVICE TO BOTH OF YOU THEN...
If you haven't done too much to your phone since the problem, do a HARD RESET, and then re-install Sprite Backup (the APPLICATION, not the data), onto your XDA.
Then, connect to your PC, and run the PC Service (needed for a restore if you saved the file to PC).
Now run the Sprite Backup program, ON YOUR DEVICE - this is important!
Choose the data file you have, that you wish to restore from, BUT, then go through the various options where you can tick or untick what you want to restore.
UNtick anything relating to the Email and SMS folders etc, and then start the restore process.
This SHOULD (if done properly), leave you with an XDA with all your apps, videos, photos etc etc on, and able to receive SMS messages as normal.
The only downside is that you will have lost any stored sms etc that you might have had.
But it's MUCH more preferable to an XDA with NONE of your data on at all.
Hope this advice is useful to you, and doesn't arrive too late!
Or alternatively download CleanMail from their website and run it, this requires a soft reset but cleans up the mail/sms system and it will work again.
It also deletes all existing mails.
i also had the same problem with spirate & what i do is restore without sms message & e-mail but i use spstudio to back them up, so after restoring with spirate i use sp studio & retrieve my sms's :evil: long way but something stupid in the sms db wich i think it is due to the constant changing of the db headers that doesn't allow u to retrieve message with db u need a program that talks to the inbox only & not the db
I had this exact same problem!! I never received any SMS messages telling me that I had voicemail and I had about 10 messages and people pissed off because I never called them back! I used the tool on the Sprite website and POOF all the problems went away. I lost all of my prior messages, but not receiving SMS's was worse :shock: !
- Cheers
It's a SWINE to find on the Sprite website, so here's the direct link to CleanMail for any that need it...
http://www.spritesoftware.com/downloads/CleanMail.zip
Shadamehr said:
It's a SWINE to find on the Sprite website, so here's the direct link to CleanMail for any that need it...
http://www.spritesoftware.com/downloads/CleanMail.zip
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WOW!
This is the first I've heard of this CleanMail program thanks for the link. 8)
OK, Sprite Backup 3.0 Pre-Release now restores SMS/POP/IMAP correctly.
http://www.spritesoftware.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=971
We'll be making it the official release, depending on customer feedback obviously (its a release candidate).
Any existing backup files will need to be restored with email deselected. From then on Sprite Backup 3.0 will backup/restore email/SMS services correctly.
..Chuck..

Interesting Messaging Problem

Firstly, I did a search and this issue was briefly touched on, but no resolve was given. I receive a new text message, I go into my inbox it says 0 items 1 new. This has been going on for a week. Now I have missed 11 text messages. My inbox and today screen say 0 items 11new. Any way to find these messages and to repair so this does not continue?
Thanks
Help I can't retrieve my text messages... now there is 13.
nerdgurl, kindly send a list of all 3rd party programs installed.
Here is the list:
Total Commander, Sygic Mobile Contacts, Pocket Max PhoneAlarm,
AE Button Plus, SetAsRingTone, ME PhonePlus, SPB PocketPlus, Sprite Backup.
It was working fine until last week, when I did a full restore, but I do have the newest Sprite Backup so there should have been no conflicts, but I don't know.
Is there any way to retreive them with another messaging software?
Thank you so much, I'm getting desperate
Are you going to the correct inbox? There are several inboxes: MMS, Outlook E-Mail, SMS...
Restoring backups screws up inboxes. Sprite's the closest thing to a proper backup app but still not perfect.
Yes, I'm going to the correct inbox, as for Sprite perhaps I am unable to save my old messages but I can't even receive new ones. If I knew how to do a screen capture, I would post a picture of this bizzare behavior.
jdee246 said:
Restoring backups screws up inboxes. Sprite's the closest thing to a proper backup app but still not perfect.
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Nah, I would suggest SPb Clone, lotsa issues with Sprite :>
Is there any remedy for this, to retrieve my older messages or to stop this from occuring with new incoming messages?
Nerdgurl said:
Is there any remedt for this, to retrieve my older messages or to stop this from occuring with new incoming messages?
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There is a tool to backup messages. I have not yet tried it myself. I'm just going to post a link to it since after install you need to put in a code at their website in order for software to be able to run. Hope it helps.
http://pdafresh.freeweb.hu/communications/sms/app_smsbackup.htm (Backs up only messages)
Developer site: http://www.zedsoft.net/smsbackup/
http://pdafresh.freeweb.hu/communications/sms/app_allexport.htm (Exports messages AND Outlook data)
UPDATE: Export function works fine. Restore will test after a HR. Backup worx.
Developer site: http://www.zedsoft.net/allexport/
Hope it worx 4 u
OH I messed it up good! It says Message Backup successfull (0 Messages), then I tried to restore the messages and it would state: Message restore successfull (0 Messages). What have I done?
Nerdgurl,
Your sms database seems to be corrupt. Use the attached tool to delete all mail/sms databases. Dont forget to backup since it destroys all SMS, mail & account info. I had a similar prob & resolved.
Cheers...
You can try the soft from Jeyo to see, if it can salvage your messages. But when all is said and done, you will HAVE to do a hard reset, to get things running again. With a bit of luck you can reinstall everything but the messages, otherwise a full reinstall is needed.
Also, you may wanna try visiting www.Sunnysoft.cz for Backup Manager. A very nice alternative to Sprite, which has way too many unsolved bugs. I fully agree with dmmh on that...

Any software to create text messages in the cemail.vol?

While there are a plethora of sms backup programs out there, I've yet to find one that will allow me to add text messages onto my phone. I have a number of sms backups that I'd like to put on my phone, but since some are in text files, others are in bitpim format from an LG phone, and some have had the timestamp completely screwed up in the backup process thanks to Jeyo, I'd like a way to enter them manually. Anyone know of a way to do this? I asked dotfred of PIMBackup, but he said he has no plans to include such a feature anytime soon. Anyone interested in making such a program?

[Q] Threaded SMS sorting wrong

Hi,
I recently did a hard reset and I wanted to save my SMS messages so I backupped them with PIMbackup. I succesfully recovered the messages, but the sorting is al wrong in threaded mode! I read somewhere that going to normal and then back to threaded would solve the problem, but it didn't
For example:
Other person:
Yeah, i'll be there at 17.00
Other person:
Sure
Me:
will you go to [somewhere] and if yes, when will you be there?
Me:
can i ride along?
that is .. wel.. ridicoulous, can i solve it in some way?
thanks,
Hitisj
Well. PIMBackup was created before Threaded SMS came to WinMo. It restores Received text messages first, then the sent ones so yours come last. I was trying to find a way to restore in chronological order too :|
Kraize said:
Well. PIMBackup was created before Threaded SMS came to WinMo. It restores Received text messages first, then the sent ones so yours come last. I was trying to find a way to restore in chronological order too :|
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Thanks for your reply. I think this is strange behaviour: Outlook on Vista sorts incoming messages by date too, not by the sequence they come in Oh well, MS...
It's the right way to restore SMS messages while in normal mode, and then turn to threaded mode to complete rebuild the all conversation threads. The messages would keep in order as they stay in the backup, resorting seen to be none sense.

[Q] restoring sms and mms

I know that there are plenty of threads talking about mybackup and titanium back but I"ve had an issue with this app. It stops and force closes randomly or if it does restore it deletes all of my current sms and then restores my saved sms in a strange order. I didn't particularly like it.
I'm constantly having people texting with new information. So after I flash a rom I might have new texts right away and I need my old texts as well. The only one that has worked was sms backup and restore (haven't tried the pro version yet) but this one worked great. It didn't delete my new incoming texts, restored my old texts in a nice orgranized way, and didn't crash. But it took over two days! for this to restore my sms and once you click menu or change the screen you can no longer see the progress bar and once you get see that the app force closes
sorry its super long but I need something that can keep all of my new incoming texts (after I flashed the rom) and restore my old sms in a somewhat reasonable time. I know its a lot to ask for (and I"m willing to pay for an app like this) but I just need some recommendations.
mytouch4gnoob said:
I know that there are plenty of threads talking about mybackup and titanium back but I"ve had an issue with this app. It stops and force closes randomly or if it does restore it deletes all of my current sms and then restores my saved sms in a strange order. I didn't particularly like it.
I'm constantly having people texting with new information. So after I flash a rom I might have new texts right away and I need my old texts as well. The only one that has worked was sms backup and restore (haven't tried the pro version yet) but this one worked great. It didn't delete my new incoming texts, restored my old texts in a nice orgranized way, and didn't crash. But it took over two days! for this to restore my sms and once you click menu or change the screen you can no longer see the progress bar and once you get see that the app force closes
sorry its super long but I need something that can keep all of my new incoming texts (after I flashed the rom) and restore my old sms in a somewhat reasonable time. I know its a lot to ask for (and I"m willing to pay for an app like this) but I just need some recommendations.
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You can try MyBackup Pro. I'm not sure if it will overwrite your new messages, so try at your own risk. My best advice would be to just flash a new ROM when you're not expecting to be contacted anymore, like later into the night or something. That's what I do.

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