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Is anyone else getting random lockups on their phone? it seems like no matter what rom i use it locks up at least once or twice a day. it seems that sense is the only thing that does lock up, as i cant hit the home button and have it go back to it.
anyone?
yeah, it happens to me too...to the point I have to remove the battery
Same here, it usually locks up once every 24 hours or so, and most times it's not even a full lockup, just the homescreen does. cause i can hit the windows button, and end button will lock the phone, just the main Today screen. Sometimes time fixes it, and it'll fix itself. but most times i take battery out
It all has to do with sense.....Horrible i know
eosrider said:
Is anyone else getting random lockups on their phone? it seems like no matter what rom i use it locks up at least once or twice a day. it seems that sense is the only thing that does lock up, as i cant hit the home button and have it go back to it.
anyone?
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I have had the same problem sense I purchased on Mar 24th, after trying to restore the devise 4 times within a 2 week period, I finally took it back and exchanged it for a new one, less than 24 hours, the new one froze up on me too. I searched through many forums such as this, and found that many users are having the same problem, I also read in one that the cause may be in the SD card that comes with the devise (the way it's formatted for use with it), so, 4 days ago, I removed the SD card, and the devise has worked flawless, no freeze ups, and for the last 2 days, I have not turned the devise off, and still no freeze ups. I plan on giving it a week, and if it does not freeze up on me, I'll put the card back in. I reformatted the SD card to get rid of the Double twist program, and the other apps such as the demo games, and put my music, Documents, and Photos back on it, hoping that it will work as a normal SD card when I put it back in.
Give it a try as I did, it just may be that simple fix everyone has been looking for.
Also, just for info, I'm running the stock USTMO ROM, with Cookies Home tab version 1.7 on it, Awesome and Flawless, if you don't want to flash a new ROM, you have got to at least install this add on.
I'll keep you posted on whether or not my test is successful or not
Same here
I've hard reset this thing, seriously, 20 times. Same setup as yours. I will try the sd card removal. Thanks for sharing the info.
depgary said:
I have had the same problem sense I purchased on Mar 24th, after trying to restore the devise 4 times within a 2 week period, I finally took it back and exchanged it for a new one, less than 24 hours, the new one froze up on me too. I searched through many forums such as this, and found that many users are having the same problem, I also read in one that the cause may be in the SD card that comes with the devise (the way it's formatted for use with it), so, 4 days ago, I removed the SD card, and the devise has worked flawless, no freeze ups, and for the last 2 days, I have not turned the devise off, and still no freeze ups. I plan on giving it a week, and if it does not freeze up on me, I'll put the card back in. I reformatted the SD card to get rid of the Double twist program, and the other apps such as the demo games, and put my music, Documents, and Photos back on it, hoping that it will work as a normal SD card when I put it back in.
Give it a try as I did, it just may be that simple fix everyone has been looking for.
Also, just for info, I'm running the stock USTMO ROM, with Cookies Home tab version 1.7 on it, Awesome and Flawless, if you don't want to flash a new ROM, you have got to at least install this add on.
I'll keep you posted on whether or not my test is successful or not
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depgary,
Thanks for that bit of information. I went ahead and formatted my my sd card today. (Fat32, 32kb allocation unit size.) the phone hasn't locked up yet. i feel that by this amount of time i would have seen one. i'll post another reply if it locks any time soon. thanks guys!
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depgary,
Thanks for that bit of information. I went ahead and formatted my my sd card today. (Fat32, 32kb allocation unit size.) the phone hasn't locked up yet. i feel that by this amount of time i would have seen one. i'll post another reply if it locks any time soon. thanks guys!
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Well, It's been 6 days and no freeze ups with the SD card removed, tomorrow I'll put the reformatted SD card back in and test it further, so far, so good
Here's a question: Do you think T-Mobile put the fastest SD cards on the market in this phone?
I simply changed the provided card for one that I purchased a week or so before I got the phone on launch day. No problems.
The ones Tmobile put in there are cheap class 2 cards. Reformatting the card has seemed to help. You would probably have better luck with a class 6 card. I'm going to wait till the price of the 32gig cards come down then get one.
EDIT: OK so I reformatted my card and its only showing 14gigs of storage, I know its not going to be exactly 16gigs of storage but I should have more than that. Anyone else have this issue?
depgary said:
I have had the same problem sense I purchased on Mar 24th, after trying to restore the devise 4 times within a 2 week period, I finally took it back and exchanged it for a new one, less than 24 hours, the new one froze up on me too. I searched through many forums such as this, and found that many users are having the same problem, I also read in one that the cause may be in the SD card that comes with the devise (the way it's formatted for use with it), so, 4 days ago, I removed the SD card, and the devise has worked flawless, no freeze ups, and for the last 2 days, I have not turned the devise off, and still no freeze ups. I plan on giving it a week, and if it does not freeze up on me, I'll put the card back in. I reformatted the SD card to get rid of the Double twist program, and the other apps such as the demo games, and put my music, Documents, and Photos back on it, hoping that it will work as a normal SD card when I put it back in.
Give it a try as I did, it just may be that simple fix everyone has been looking for.
Also, just for info, I'm running the stock USTMO ROM, with Cookies Home tab version 1.7 on it, Awesome and Flawless, if you don't want to flash a new ROM, you have got to at least install this add on.
I'll keep you posted on whether or not my test is successful or not
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I would like to try this myself. does anybody know what class card comes with the new motorola droids? I'm thinking of switching out my card with girlfriend's.
SEscobedo said:
I would like to try this myself. does anybody know what class card comes with the new motorola droids? I'm thinking of switching out my card with girlfriend's.
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droids come with a 8gb.
Still without issue, no lockups.
I also noticed that it was only 14.x gb free. i think its normal though.
eosrider said:
droids come with a 8gb.
Still without issue, no lockups.
I also noticed that it was only 14.x gb free. i think its normal though.
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I think you are wrong as she just got the phone and it definitely has a 16gb card.
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i think the ramdom lock-ups are associated with the phone and not the custom ROMs. i've flashed about 6 different TMO-US rom from here and they all lock up my phone. so they all can't be bad, right? well, the other thing i noticed was that when it did lock up, i could feel the bottom-half of the phone was hot, right below the battery cover. i think my phone is defective because if i multi-task, it gets hot then locks up. i'm going to return it for a new one. anyone else have this problem?
nick714
depgary said:
Well, It's been 6 days and no freeze ups with the SD card removed, tomorrow I'll put the reformatted SD card back in and test it further, so far, so good
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Well folks, I put the reformatted SD card back in, while I was scrolling through my pictures testing out the card, guess what, the devise froze up, had to reset it, about 4 hours later, while going through the pictures again, it froze up again, reset it. Then, as before, after a long charge, the phone would not wake up, had to reset again, that's 3 times sense I put the SD card back in. To test the card out thoroughly, I watched Transformer part 1 to the end, and no freeze up, so I cannot say if the SD card is bad, I'm getting ready to try a new card now.
The problem may be with the Devise's SD driver. Another thing I noticed is that with the card out, the battery lasted a good 50% longer
This is just my test, but, it seems to me the devise runs better without the SD card installed.
I'll return with an update after the new SD card test run
****Update: Tried the new SD card, the devise froze up while scrolling through the pictures. I don't believe it's the SD cards, seems like a glitch in the SD hardware or the SD driver. My devise works just fine without the SD card installed, who would think that it may be the SD drivers causing the freeze ups. I wonder how long it will take for HTC or WinMo to accept and fix the problem.
Is there a developer on this thread that can come up with a fix, or a better SD driver software?
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i think the ramdom lock-ups are associated with the phone and not the custom ROMs. i've flashed about 6 different TMO-US rom from here and they all lock up my phone. so they all can't be bad, right? well, the other thing i noticed was that when it did lock up, i could feel the bottom-half of the phone was hot, right below the battery cover. i think my phone is defective because if i multi-task, it gets hot then locks up. i'm going to return it for a new one. anyone else have this problem?
nick714
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Same here, the back of my phone would be hot as well, try removing the SD card for a few days, as I did, and see if your phone stops freezing up, mine seems to work great without the card installed, and the battery last longer.
will buy a new one and see
i def think its the card, maybe it gets hot when you charge/ run heavy apps like wifi and when it goes to read the card it miss reads and freezes, cause i install all apps on my card as to not clutter the fone just yet, i will def be buying a new sdcard and probably swapping out cards hahaha and returning old stock one. hahah thus having a sweet better class 16g card for free
I get frequent lockups with Sense, but when I switch to the standard Winmo interface, it never locks up. I don't think it's the memory card as much as HTC's sense.
lock up exiting messaging
I have had the phone since the 14th, I am running the stock T-Mobile USA rom (not flashing another rom until I decide if I'm going to keep the phone) The only time that I have had the phone lock up is when exiting the messaging tab on Sense.
It seems to have started after I updated the myphone application in order to back up text messages.
This has happened to me, however Format FAT32 is a fix, but I chose to just scandisk the card. Found a couple errors, and I deleted the temp files and fired up Haret. All is good again.
Long story short some errors on the card happen and a quick scandisk/chkdsk should fix them and Android should be happy again.
You can perform this on your computer or with any storage card tools in Windows Mobile prior to launching Haret.
Hope this helps some people...
Just an idea, can we add a chkdsk command in android boot loader?
I have same issue before.
SODs are caused by sd card errors?
i didnt realize that.. is it really only errors on sd cards that are the cause of SODs? or are there other underlying factors affecting SODs such as mayb speed class of SD cards?
im using the class 2 8gb which came with my hd2 and my phone gets SODs despite having the same setup as many people who are using the same android build as others who do not have SODs and have used android back-to-back for days without falling back to Winmo..
I'm no expert or anything but I use the 16 gig SD card that came with my HD2 and I've formatted it, I've tried every trick I know with the sd card ad I still get SODs, I'm going to keep looking for a fix here. I'll post back if I find one. Let me know if any of you do.
thankx,
Kn0t
the android boot loader should already check all the mounts before mounting them.
i would say try a different winmo rom..
im using the miri cht one with 2.12 radio.
I think every time we boot android the card is automatically checked for errors! I have seen it in the test that scrolls while android is booting!
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hardik119 said:
I think every time we boot android the card is automatically checked for errors! I have seen it in the test that scrolls while android is booting!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA app on froyo mattc 1.5
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The problem is actually in the format of the SDCard (fat32) and the way files are organize when we transfer/save/backup files onto it. A scandisk plus a defragment will make a difference. I always do it when I transfer music files, take pics, make backups o just installed a new build. even the fsck finds non-contiguous files every time you boot android (pay close attention be4 the sound is loaded)
and you are right, the sdcard is checked for errors but not fixed. what the bootloader get "automatically fixed" is not the sdcard, but some files which might not be configured/located where they should. I recommend a scandisk and a defragment everytime you load a new build/change many files. u will notice the difference.
So which chdsk/defrag program do you recommend ?
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So which chdsk/defrag program do you recommend ?
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Every Windows pc comes with its scandisk and defrag utility.
according to some peeps at computer forums
you should NOT defrag a thumb drive or sd card, because its a different tpe of memory than hard drive and may cause some sideffects.
cna someone confirm that?
I formatted my SD card. Upgraded my radio. I took everything off of MT SD card that was windows mobile. I just left music movies and android and I've been running android 19 + hours with zero problems nor sods.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
fi3ry_icy said:
SODs are caused by sd card errors?
i didnt realize that.. is it really only errors on sd cards that are the cause of SODs? or are there other underlying factors affecting SODs such as mayb speed class of SD cards?
im using the class 2 8gb which came with my hd2 and my phone gets SODs despite having the same setup as many people who are using the same android build as others who do not have SODs and have used android back-to-back for days without falling back to Winmo..
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It your sd card. I have never had any sod at all. Since the release lets 19 juli darkstone v4. Using sandisk mobile ultra 4gb 20 mb read 7 write.
fuzzysig said:
according to some peeps at computer forums
you should NOT defrag a thumb drive or sd card, because its a different tpe of memory than hard drive and may cause some sideffects.
cna someone confirm that?
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it doesn't make any sense, this two thing isn't related at all. hard drive type and defrag. data just fragments, no matter hdd type, format. so you need to defrag it.
noellenchris said:
This has happened to me, however Format FAT32 is a fix, but I chose to just scandisk the card. Found a couple errors, and I deleted the temp files and fired up Haret. All is good again.
Long story short some errors on the card happen and a quick scandisk/chkdsk should fix them and Android should be happy again.
You can perform this on your computer or with any storage card tools in Windows Mobile prior to launching Haret.
Hope this helps some people...
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my android is running great if it wernt for those SODs how to i run a scandisk?
noellenchris said:
This has happened to me, however Format FAT32 is a fix, but I chose to just scandisk the card. Found a couple errors, and I deleted the temp files and fired up Haret. All is good again.
Long story short some errors on the card happen and a quick scandisk/chkdsk should fix them and Android should be happy again.
You can perform this on your computer or with any storage card tools in Windows Mobile prior to launching Haret.
Hope this helps some people...
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Thank you for this tip. I had installed Modern Combat: Sandstorm and put a good amount of music on my phone, and after that I was getting SOD's fairly frequently.. I'm attempting this trick now to see if it has any positive effect.
I don't know if this will help anyone but it works great for me. In addition to repairing errors when I formatted my 16 gig class 2 that came with the phone I set cluster size to 64 and its always ran fast since with no sod. I don't see that much of a storage loss. Barely using 5 out of 16 gigs on the card with almost 3 gigs of music loaded.
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I also don't know if this will help anyone but I used to get the SOD to happen ALL THE TIME. Sometimes I would get lucky for a couple hours but then they would happen sometimes every TWO minutes. I have 3 different SD cards. One stock 16gb, one class 4 8gb. and a spare 16gb. I tried everything I found here from switching to a faster card. reformatting. Using a higher cluster size. Nothing worked. Then I tried switching radio's from 2.08 to 2.12. PROBLEM 100% fixed. I havent had a SOD in over two weeks. Ive read that the radio is NOT a fix for this problem but for some reason it fixed it for me.
HELP ! I have read dozens of posts on here about Wifi...
I have got the same problem.... My Ace I just flashed 2.3.3 Villain with Odin and when I try and connect to my Netgear router (HTC Wildfire S and San Fran) are fine...
All I get id obtaining IP address etc, then phone disconnects....
Screen times out after 1 min then SOD ! (Switches off)
Hold power for 10 secs phone is back on, still no wifi...
HELP !
maxmix
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MY SOLUTION FOR SOD...
Hey all... I am new to this forum. I own a Galaxy Note GT N7000. I am using stock JB rom. I have been having SOD's since 3 months. Even wen i was on ICS. I have tried many custom roms, changed kernels, got my phone bricked n got a motherboard replacement under warranty. Guess what... SOD persisted. I was goin mad. I tried usin phone without external SD, overclocked my device to 500 Mhz.
And hell... SOD persisted. Have been through almost all forums regarding SODs.
What helped was... changing WIFI settings.
Go to... Settings... WiFi... Go to options menu.... click ADVANCED...
CHANGE... "KEEP WI-FI ON DURING SLEEP" option to "NEVER"
Bingo....
No SOD... since last 4 days.
Hope it helps. I know some ppl are havin SOD even without using WIFI.
But for those who r using WiFi, its worth giving a try.
Dr.Saurabh said:
MY SOLUTION FOR SOD...
Hey all... I am new to this forum. I own a Galaxy Note GT N7000. I am using stock JB rom. I have been having SOD's since 3 months. Even wen i was on ICS. I have tried many custom roms, changed kernels, got my phone bricked n got a motherboard replacement under warranty. Guess what... SOD persisted. I was goin mad. I tried usin phone without external SD, overclocked my device to 500 Mhz.
And hell... SOD persisted. Have been through almost all forums regarding SODs.
What helped was... changing WIFI settings.
Go to... Settings... WiFi... Go to options menu.... click ADVANCED...
CHANGE... "KEEP WI-FI ON DURING SLEEP" option to "NEVER"
Bingo....
No SOD... since last 4 days.
Hope it helps. I know some ppl are havin SOD even without using WIFI.
But for those who r using WiFi, its worth giving a try.
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nice revivial of a 2 year old thread
and this is the hd2 android q and a section not the galaxy note section
and it looks like your just a spammer
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I've had my N1 for 11 months now without any major problems. Since yesterday my N1 reboots and freezes non-stop, though this only occurs when my SD car is in. Taken out the phone works fine. I've done a virus scan on my SD card but nothing malcious was found. Any help with this?
Run a disk check on your SD, or just reformat it...?
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Have battled with the same issue this past week. Make sure you don't have hidden/system files and ringtones/notifications left over from the old days on the SD card.
Happened to me, when I took my card from my old phone and just plugged it in.
Clean up the directory system & get rid of all stuff you don't need. Dramatic improvement. Runs a lot smoother now, though still reboots (under heavy CPU or SD-reading strain) at least daily.
Hello Ya'all,
First and foremost, I would like to thank the forum and its members for the great supply of information and technology.
Device: HD2 is currently running YukiXDA's Windows Phone 7 ROM
Storage Device: Sandisk 8GB Class 4 MicroSDHC
Issue: I flashed my phone with Windows 7 after formatting the SD card with SD-Card formater for optimal results. The installation went perfect, the SD card was recognized, etc. and everything was working perfectly. I added pictures and music to it, no problems; however, when I put an additional album onto the HD2, the phone started freezing and rebooting quite frequently, with the occasional Storage card error; thus, I assumed (and read) that adding a little more music would patch up the problem. I tried it and to my surprise, the rebooting decreased, but the problem still persists. I know some of ya'all are probably wondering: "Go buy a new SD card," However, this is one of the cards that is known for being compatible quite frequently; thus, I can't be too sure whether I'm just wasting money or not. Any help would be appreciated.
This might sound hilarious; however, after updating to blackseven mango, my phone has not rebooted for the past 6 hours (It is infamous for rebooting every hour or so). I am going to test this out one more night and see what the problem is. I'm sure it is not related to the roms; however, it would restart with every NoDo Rom, but for some reason, it hasn't with this one.
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Its most likely your SD card I personally have never had any problems with restarting and I have the Samsung SD card that came with my us hd2
Guyden2 said:
Hello Ya'all,
First and foremost, I would like to thank the forum and its members for the great supply of information and technology.
Device: HD2 is currently running YukiXDA's Windows Phone 7 ROM
Storage Device: Sandisk 8GB Class 4 MicroSDHC
Issue: I flashed my phone with Windows 7 after formatting the SD card with SD-Card formater for optimal results. The installation went perfect, the SD card was recognized, etc. and everything was working perfectly. I added pictures and music to it, no problems; however, when I put an additional album onto the HD2, the phone started freezing and rebooting quite frequently, with the occasional Storage card error; thus, I assumed (and read) that adding a little more music would patch up the problem. I tried it and to my surprise, the rebooting decreased, but the problem still persists. I know some of ya'all are probably wondering: "Go buy a new SD card," However, this is one of the cards that is known for being compatible quite frequently; thus, I can't be too sure whether I'm just wasting money or not. Any help would be appreciated.
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the adding of music is the key, ive found that my card has portions that are fine, in fact its super quick and stable, but if i go and install something it will start resetting, if its the same issue as mine then keep dumping 50MB of junk on it until it becomes stable, i honestly do not know why this works unless WP7 is so sensitive to IOPS that even the slightest hicup will make it reset
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the adding of music is the key, ive found that my card has portions that are fine, in fact its super quick and stable, but if i go and install something it will start resetting, if its the same issue as mine then keep dumping 50MB of junk on it until it becomes stable, i honestly do not know why this works unless WP7 is so sensitive to IOPS that even the slightest hicup will make it reset
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Hi
I have had problems with alot of reboots, up till 5 per hour and some times when booting it just get stuck on a white og green screen so that i have to pull the battery. But that was untill i found this yesterday, i filled my phone up(from over 10 gb free to only 2gb free) and now it is running sooooo smooth not a reboot yet
So people with random reboots might noth have to by a new sd card. ???
Wish i found this before i ordered a 16 GB class 10 hehehe
Just a quick report back on this, after filling my sd card up with music i only had ONE reboot last night in stead of rebooting many times per day else it has been running all smoth.
So i must say this is a great result by just adding music to the phone
HTC HD2 with cm7 hyperdroid
Hi my phone randomly reboots a lot ive rooted it and flashed cm7 hyper droid- v10.4 "estatic eagle" android version 2.3.3 build #GRI40 a long time ago but now recently it just started randomly rebooting. i believe it started when i tried to update the rom from rom manager to a newer cm7 hyperdroid but for some odd reason my phone also doesnt reboot into recovery mode to put a new rom on it. please help. its getting irratating. thank you
Hi, I've have my VS995 for a while and it's been running perfectly. I'm currently rooted, running Alpha Rom (1BA revision) and the mk2000 BTTF Beta 1 kernel. In the last month or so I've noticed anything that has to hit storage -- either internal OR SD-- is starting to get really slow to get started. For example, if I am opening the camera, it takes a while (5-10 seconds) to open because it's reading the gallery.. if I am reading through Twitter and saving some pictures, sometimes it takes so long to save it crashes my Twitter client! But then once I get a successful save, everything is fine for a while -- but if I stop using it, it goes back to sleep. I.e., once storage is being accessed, it seems fine for a while-- if I start skimming through the gallery, open the camera back to back, save a group of files-- everything is fine. But if I let it sit for a minute or so, I'm back to super slow access times. It's almost like waiting for a spinning disk hard drive to spin back up after being asleep. Because of that I'm thinking it's not likely to be a hardware fault, just a setting or something is messed up.
Can someone point me to where to even start troubleshooting this? Since it happens on internal storage too I don't think it's anything with my SD card. Is this likely something in the kernel or the ROM itself? Could it be like a setting in the kernel? I've tried all of the different IO Schedulers with very little difference...
Thanks!
SD-Card going bad?
If it is a SanDisk, that would be my bet. I have had so many problems with SanDisk Media on many different devices and computers I gave up on SanDisk...
Yeah, I've had tons of trouble with Sandisk (and avoid them entirely, they're the only brand that's ever flat out died on me-- and multiple times!) but this seems to be impacting ANY storage access, not just the SD card... I guess I could try it with the card out entirely just to see what happens... (it's a Samsung 128gb EVO-- I almost always go with their Pro cards for phones but I bought this when Pro disappeared for a few months)