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What are the benefits of using CM7?

I am super glad that I have the kindle fire and its getting so much developer attention. I will for sure eventually flash a custom rom onto it, definitely once/if bluetooth gets enabled on it.
I just never saw a thread explaining what is the purpose of CM7. Is it just to hack and play with the android. What exactly are the benefits of using CM7 over a stock firmware rooted kindle using 3rd party launcher?
Thanks for your answers.

I maybe wrong but I believe Amazon cannot toss on an Update without your Permission being just one benefit . Also TWRP should be installed prior to CM7 for a shield combo for that prevention.

yea amazon cant do that but dont you also lose the amazon app store?

No the Amazon app store is available on any Android device. You lose the Video app, and have to use the standard Kindle app. I for one love it, but my intention always was to use it as a tablet.
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CM's website is the best place to find out what its all about.
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/

For the most part, people are quite pleased with CM7 with the only real issue I am aware of being the inability to continue to use Amazon video (prime).
Many using it however don't really miss that.
I personally am still stock with AWD as my launcher and I use the Amazon Video from time to time as that was one of the reasons for my getting the device, however my KF look much more like a Droid Tablet now days.
When CM9 gets settled, I might give that a shot, but I think that might be a ways off.

borborpa said:
No the Amazon app store is available on any Android device. You lose the Video app, and have to use the standard Kindle app. I for one love it, but my intention always was to use it as a tablet.
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How is using stock not using it as a tablet especially once you load the full Android market? I guess maybe the way it handles notifications, etc? Not saying you're wrong or anything just kinda curious as to what you mean by that. Maybe you're answer will convince me to try cm7. For now, it seems to be a very capable tablet on stock rooted.

I love the stock rooted and using Go launcher....
however i tried CM7 and I hate the lack of good software buttons, the ones they have are too small for me to use

I'd like to see a carefully laid out step-by-step Instr. for this ICS. Those around appear for those technically inclined to fill in the slight lapses of keystokes.

what i liked in cm7 in my sgs (not found on stock rom)
haptic feedback customization (control how your phone vibrates)
Brightness customization (controls how and when back-light brightens or dims)
Lock-screen gestures
Built in Theme chooser
made using my phone easier.. might make my fire easier to use as well
also, cm7 provides the possibility of a miui port, and that rom made my phone 'cleaner' to look at

I find the CM7 port to be perfect for now. I'll wait until CM9 is more stable before I upgrade. For me, I like having the full selection of apps available (something you'll never get with Amazon+Root+Google Market.

the reason i use cm7 is because it allows true ownership over my device. i know there won't be any sneak updates. i know that there isn't any hidden spy features, and I know that none of the software on it is trying to screw me over.
i don't really care about any of amazon's features. I bought this device with no intention of using any of them, so it isn't really a loss for me.

[Q] why root the kindle fire

Like the tittle says... I love customizing everything and making it work my way... but after reading page after page to root my device, I don't find it worth it.
So why did you want to root mainly to benefit from and not just to play with a new toy?
All I have is go launcher on mine and I am done... what else do I really need to gain more from my kindle by rooting?

Why I rooted
I chose to root and install a custom rom. I loved the name ICS and since I read about it some time last year I wanted to try it out. The Kindle gave the best device to try it out on a small budget. Me knowing if I messed it up I would be upset with myself but I could have lived with it. There is a lot you can do after rooting. You can install what ever app you want. Install the market and get out of Amazon slow apps that just don't do the device justices. With adb services running you dont even have to copy apk file over just install it as root. I have tried 4 different ROMS for the kindle and CM9 just has to be about my favorite. I know there are a few bugs left to work out, but over all it is great. If you need help installing TWRP to install CM9 let me know I wrote my own simple how to for myself.
Thanks,
JohninLex

There are a lot of benefits to rooting. However, my main reason was to install custom roms (using CM7). I never intended to use this as an Amazon portal from day one.
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There are many reasons to root. Rooting is very easy. The KindleFireUtility does everything for you, just be sure to read the thread to avoid some of the problems people ran into. You can keep the basic e-reader functionality with the Kindle app from the Android Market but customize the experience a lot more than what GoLauncher offers. Amazon gave us a pretty poor stock ROM in the sense that it's very limited. I like having full control over my devices and the user-developed ROMs here are really great

Android Market access, popular apps that require root (Titanium Backup, Droid Wall, the Swype beta, etc), installing custom ROMs based on newer, better Android versions with performance tweaks, and soon with luck and a lot of developer sweat, USB OTG. Also it makes you more attractive to the opposite sex.
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I had this same thought when I first got my Fire. I even put Go Launcher on it and thought it would have been good enough, until I got frustrated with the lack of apps in the Amazon Appstore. I never rooted anything so I was a little nervous. After doing a lot of research I decided to give it a try. I also wanted to experience ICS and you can only do that by installing custom ROMs. I feel like I have unlocked so many possibilities for my Fire by rooting it and I am happy I did it.
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I got frustrated having go launcher but not being able to readily access the Android market for widgets. I tried CM9 and its awesome but I got the kindle for YouTube and Netflix so I can't leave CM9 on there for to long before I revert back to stock or CM7.
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kindlefireuser said:
Like the tittle says... I love customizing everything and making it work my way... but after reading page after page to root my device, I don't find it worth it.
So why did you want to root mainly to benefit from and not just to play with a new toy?
All I have is go launcher on mine and I am done... what else do I really need to gain more from my kindle by rooting?
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You answered it in the second sentence of your question:
"I love customizing everything and making it work my way..."

There's a reason the new root market (fire place) exists...

Honestly, after just going through the process, access to Google Play is probably one of the weakest reasons for rooting. Outside of getting the Google developed apps such as Google+, Gmail, Drive, Sync Framkework...etc...the Market is even weaker than the Amazon App Store due to Google segregating you to a very small amount of apps because of incompatibility issues.
Having compatible gapps provided through snazzy utilities such as KFU is pretty sweet, though.
I have no plans of flashing a custom ROM because it's not solely my device. I am also a Prime member, so the Amazon sandbox is beneficial. I did however root, simply because I am a geek and couldn't resist the temptation to try it out and see what benefits it provides.
If anything, it is nice to be able to explore root with ES File Explorer.

I have rooted every android device that I have ever owned (G1, G2X, NX700p and the Kindle Fire). Mostly for the "new toy" aspect. I love flashing new ROMs and interfaces when I get bored with one. Play store is nice to have (along with other gapps).
Rooted my Kindle Fire within 2 hours of opening the box (got stuck in fastboot and thought I bricked it, good times). I am not a fan of the Kindle Launcher (or even Silk browser, really).
So yeah, new toy to play with for a small fee (rooting is free but can take time and effort) is my main reason.
Plus it makes me more attractive to the opposite sex =]

I've rooted and changed the roms on all of my previous phones but I haven't had the itch to root and rom the Fire. I personally like it the way it is stock. Simple to use and does what I need it to do(web browsing, reading, and media). I just sideload the apps that I can't find in the Amazon App store. Maybe one day I'll root and rom it.
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I thought you didn't have to root to install custom roms.
I rooted first to get the Play Store. Then I installed custom roms after I got bored of using gingerbread.

Blacklight17 said:
I've rooted and changed the roms on all of my previous phones but I haven't had the itch to root and rom the Fire. I personally like it the way it is stock. Simple to use and does what I need it to do(web browsing, reading, and media). I just sideload the apps that I can't find in the Amazon App store. Maybe one day I'll root and rom it.
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Same boat here. I actually haven't rooted my Amaze either as I realize as much fun rooting and flashing was, IMO stock does just enough...
I like you just sideload apps and good to go.
I also have Prime and use their video services more than Netflix.
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There's few reasons why I have rooted and, most important - installeld custom ROM (Energy CM9 Kang) on my Kindle:
1) Need for Google Play App store (I am in Europe and for me all the US based services does'nt work)
2) On/of button on the bottom. I like to us emy Kindle flipped to keep the button and earphones plug on top, but when screen is locked i get the lock screen with the password keyboard flipped on the stock OS.
3) Was unable to transfer apps from the app to the files partition. Flashing custom ROM fixed this.
4) Having ICS on a Kindle was so tempting... and soooo worth it.

Mostly for adblock and to get off the stock ROM which isn't so great if you just want a tablet without any restrictions. I also had no intentions of using this how Amazon originally meant people to use it.
I also have a problem with a manufacturer telling me i can't do something with my own device.

JohninLex said:
I chose to root and install a custom rom.
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Yup. Same hereI just rooted yesterday to install CM9 (some version of it). It was very simple. Now I can have Google Maps, Google Voice, and Gmail on it as well as Path (keep in mind that the kindle fire does not have a gps or a microphone).

Just a Couple reasons to start with...
The first one is, I like security and backups, so I use TWRP so I can back up my apps and data.
Second, any Android device can collect a SERIOUS amount of memory-hogging cache, so I use Cache-Mate to clear it all.
Third, I personally hate the default status bar, so I currently have CM7 on it with a smaller design.
Fourth, I also dont like the keyboard, so I replaced it with this nice split keyboard.
Fifth, I like making my device run faster, so I overclock when im using it and underclock when im not.
Sixth, volume adjusting requires going through menus, so i use Volume Control to change it easily. (Does this require root?)
Thats about it

one word answer: ICS

[Q] Questions about kindle fire.

Hi there, these days I'm going to sell my Htc Hd2 and I would like to buy a tablet with android.I'm searching the internets for tablets and the Kindle Fire ...well I think it's the best choice for my budget.
I would like to ask some questions about this device. How does it work with the stock rom, no android market is kinda lame and I also live in Romania so I guess Amazon does not support my country and I'm going to have a lots of problems with their market/services. So I was thinking I'm going to root the tablet , install ICS and so I'm not controlled anymore by Amazon.
My questions are the following: how does it run under Custom Roms, can it match a native android 4.0 tablet? What bugs does the ICS have, browsing the android dev. forums for this device I found that Hardware Acceleration is hacked, does flash is working with ICS? And I would also like you guys to tell me about more bugs that I missed. (also if there is a Gingerbread or Honeycomb rom for it that works fine-without many bugs)
Thank you(sorry for my English).

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1558010

Generally it can be recommended because simplicity of customization, but:
No external SD card,
Only 4G memory,
Only 512M RAM,
No microphone and camera.
No bluetooth.
Currently no USB host.
External microphone can be used with voice recorder and google voice and control.
Skype currently not recognized external microphone.
Stock ROM is nice and fast, but has too many limitation even rooted.
For now I use CM7. It stable and nice. CM9 still has problems. Kernel 3.x still under preliminary development.
As conclusion I recommend to wait for a few months and buy some cheap tablet that currently under development on many manufacturers as answer to Kindle Fire.
These hopefully may be sold at price about $250 - $300.

[Q]

Wife has a nook color, stock unrooted wanting to view email/ webrowsing more effectively than what she can now. I am looking at rooting the device and wondering what opinions are out there. Should I wait until ICS roms are more stable or should I jump in with something out there now? If I should go now what do you recommend?

Well, if you are asking should you wait for ICS to be further developed before installing a custom ROM on the device, the answer is'a no, from me.
CM9 is plenrty far along to my mind and getting better every day. But if you don't intend to keep up with the updates with any regularity, then try CM7 which is Gingerbread.
It's great and stable. And most of what she learns about operating it will still apply whenever you decide to upgrade to ICS.
ICS s really great at this point, but flash still doesn't work and is probably a little ways away. That means no internet videos of any quality, at the minimum. If she wants a better browsing experience, stick with CM7 for a while.
I personally had nothing but a pleasant experience using the Mirage 7.2 Kang. MiRaGe is pretty good about support as well, although only if you flash the ROM internally (to emmc). Which, unless you are planning to dual-or-more boot, there is no reason to install by sdcard. Go ahead and flash to emmc. Supposedly you void your warranty by doing that, but there are a million threads about going back to B&N stock. It's really easy.
So flash whatever looks good. You can always try something else later. The first one is hard. Everyone after that is easy as it gets. Oh, and root access is now a user-defined option. You don't have to be rooted while running Cyanogen.

jmhatch23 said:
Wife has a nook color, stock unrooted wanting to view email/ webrowsing more effectively than what she can now. I am looking at rooting the device and wondering what opinions are out there. Should I wait until ICS roms are more stable or should I jump in with something out there now? If I should go now what do you recommend?
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If that's all she wants, and she's otherwise happy with the device running B&N firmware, you should consider just rooting it. Everything will work as it does now, including the nice B&N features (read-to-me, free in-store reading, automatic subscription updates, etc.), but you can add as much or as little additional functionality as you want. If she subscribes to any B&N periodicals or reads enhanced ebooks from B&N, this may be important.
If you run CM or any alternate firmware, be aware that the B&N Android app does not have the same full functionality of the B&N firmware. Some books and periodicals can, at least today, only be read using native B&N firmware. Hopefully, they'll update the app soon to address this.

From Stock 4.1.2 to CM10: my Wingray experience.

Hello,
I just would like to share my experience of moving from the stock 4.1.2 Jelly Bean to the CM10 release, mostly for people who are still using stock 4.1.2 because I couldn't find such a thread before jumping to CM10.
I installed the 5th November nightly release of CM10 as the more recent ones (including the "stable" release) have an annoying problem : the Play Store reports some incompatibilities with apps which were working fine with the stock 4.1.2. It seems that this problem is due to the lack of free memory with the newest CM10 releases ...
The 11/05 CM10 was the last one with no Play Store problems, you can download it here for the Wingray :
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2383656/cm-10-20121105-NIGHTLY-wingray.zip
EDIT : on the 6th December, I updated my Xoom from the 11/05 nightly to the 12/05 nightly, and so far I still didn't have the Play Store compatibility issue, which means the problem has been solved in between these two releases ...
Performances :
I must admit that I didn't think it was possible that a custom ROM was better optimized than the one made by Google itself ...
I was very happy with the fluidity of the stock 4.1.2, but when I used CM10 for the first time, I tried some websites known to be a bit laggy with the stock browser, and they were just close to perfect about fluidity with CM10 ! I couldn't find a laggy website with stock browser yet ... These tests were not involving overclocking.
So I then ran Quadrant and had a score of 2800, where I had 1900 with stock 4.1.2 ... !
I then overclocked the Xoom to 1,5 GHZ, and Quadrant reported a score of 4100, about equal to the Transformer Prime !
I don't really play with my Xoom but I tried to play to GTA III, and when overclocked, compared to the stock 4.1.2, I could put a lot more graphical details with a better fluidity. I really felt like using a whole new device. But most of the time I don't use overclocking as I want to save my battery life, and the overall fluidity of the Xoom running CM10 at 1GHz is very good.
A few people reported they found a performances increase with the very last nightly release. However, as it still have some compatibility problems with the Play Store, I will not jump on it.
I don't know if Cyanogen will try to solve this incompatibility issue as it maybe related to the Gapps taking too much storage space, and Cyanogen does not support Gapps ...
Updates :
I choosed a Cyanogen rom (instead of EOS) because with this one you can easily update to newer ROM release very easily, without the need to connect your Xoom to the PC, and without loosing datas : CM10 includes an update manager which proceeds just like an official Google OTA ! That's just perfect to me, I'm not sure if this does also exist on EOS, I couldn't find any informations about this.
So I have the feeling that my Xoom is still supported and updated, which is very good. Thanks a million to Cyanogen team !
Bugs :
I couldn't find bugs yet on the 11/05 release, I just had an unexpected reboot the very first time I used it, only after 5 minutes of use. Since then, I never had this problem again (3 days with no reboots for now).
Features :
I didn't try all of them yet, but there are plenty of cool features :
- overclocking ability with multiple policies possible to save battery life for exemple, or for the best performances all the time.
- other performances tweaks about RAM like "KSM" use, and some other parameters which allow better performances but lowering the battery life.
- root of course !
- the ability to light the charging LED, even when your Xoom is powered on.
- many many others, some I didn't tried/discovered yet.
So I am very happy now with CM10, and I would like to thanks Cyanogen again about this excellent work !
I would recommand to any stock 4.1.2 users to jump on to CM10, the Xoom will just be running better then !
Here is the link which explains how to jump to a Cyanogen ROM :
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/wiki/Mo...de#Installing_the_ClockworkMod_Recovery_Image
Have fun !

TeamEOS has all the features you mentioned and you can update it easily as well. Don't need a computer, they use GooManager. In short they are both good ROMs, there is nothing to dislike about both of those ROMs, both teams have putted a lot of effort into optimising the XOOM and adding functions/features. It's all up to user preference, with CM ROMs I get random reboots, while TeamEOS I don't get any of that.

Chaosgod27 said:
TeamEOS has all the features you mentioned and you can update it easily as well. Don't need a computer, they use GooManager. In short they are both good ROMs, there is nothing to dislike about both of those ROMs, both teams have putted a lot of effort into optimising the XOOM and adding functions/features. It's all up to user preference, with CM ROMs I get random reboots, while TeamEOS I don't get any of that.
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How polished is the root/rom procedure for the Xoom? I came from the Transformer world and it was pretty well dialed in..not a lot of monkeying around or knowledge required.
What's the easiest way to get root and a custom rom?

rpavich said:
How polished is the root/rom procedure for the Xoom? I came from the Transformer world and it was pretty well dialed in..not a lot of monkeying around or knowledge required.
What's the easiest way to get root and a custom rom?
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Idk, never rooted or used a Asus tablet. Once the Xoom is unlocked and rooted you really have no need for a PC unless you use fastboot & adb to flash, push, pull, etc.....
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Chaosgod27 said:
TeamEOS has all the features you mentioned and you can update it easily as well. Don't need a computer, they use GooManager. In short they are both good ROMs, there is nothing to dislike about both of those ROMs, both teams have putted a lot of effort into optimising the XOOM and adding functions/features. It's all up to user preference, with CM ROMs I get random reboots, while TeamEOS I don't get any of that.
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Definitely. I've used both ROMs, but struggled with SOD's on EOS Stable and lag on the nightlies! CM10 solved both of these issues for me. Both ROMs are full of features and and a no brainer compared with stock.
Regards.

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Definitely. I've used both ROMs, but struggled with SOD's on EOS Stable and lag on the nightlies! CM10 solved both of these issues for me. Both ROMs are full of features and and a no brainer compared with stock.
Regards.
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Thanks a lot, that's interesting. I was more and more thinking about trying the EOS ROM, but I was too lazy about reinstalling all my softwares and data ...
What do you mean by "SOD" ?
It's very interesting to have the feedbacks of people having tried both custom ROMs, it would be cool if some other people could give their opinion.

dizzy33 said:
It's very interesting to have the feedbacks of people having tried both custom ROMs, it would be cool if some other people could give their opinion.
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i have not tried EOS yet. CM10 runs absolutely flawless. I got a good 14hrs -/+ on the battery playing Deadzone, watching movings, browsing the net, skyping with my kids and I still have 28% left today. No OC. Having full R/W access to the External Sdcard is great. I now can Dropsync my folders from my Dropbox to the card for a quick handy on the go backup
EOS from what i have heard has some great features.....i will need to backup and give it a go here soon.
Sent by Samsung Galaxy Nexus (SCH-I515 Verizon LTE) using Tapa2

rpavich said:
How polished is the root/rom procedure for the Xoom? I came from the Transformer world and it was pretty well dialed in..not a lot of monkeying around or knowledge required.
What's the easiest way to get root and a custom rom?
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Yes it's very easy, considering this is a google experience device all you really have to do is unlock it, flash in recovery and then using recovery flash in another ROM. You should have zero problems at all, considering the bootloader is unlocked.

Can anyone please tell me if one of the december CM10 nightly did solve the Play Store incompatibility problem ?
Thanks !

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Can anyone please tell me if one of the december CM10 nightly did solve the Play Store incompatibility problem ?
Thanks !
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No need to ask this question almost everywhere.......I have not experienced any market issues.....
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cdexsw said:
No need to ask this question almost everywhere.......I have not experienced any market issues.....
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as long as you will not entirely answer my questions, I will still ask it, and I'm free to do it !
Yes you don't have this problem now, thanks for this information, but did you have this problem before ?
If you never had this problem, this means you may not be using the CM10 Gapps but the EOS one, or you just didn't realize that you actually have a compatibility issue with the Play Store ... It's easy, check the application named "eye in sky weather", if the store says that it's not compatible with your device, it means that you're facing the compatibility issue as this application is in fact compatible with the Xoom. Of course this problem is not only for this application, there are many others which are reported as not compatible ...

dizzy33 said:
as long as you will not entirely answer my questions, I will still ask it, and I'm free to do it !
Yes you don't have this problem now, thanks for this information, but did you have this problem before ?
If you never had this problem, this means you may not be using the CM10 Gapps but the EOS one, or you just didn't realize that you actually have a compatibility issue with the Play Store ... It's easy, check the application named "eye in sky weather", if the store says that it's not compatible with your device, it means that you're facing the compatibility issue as this application is in fact compatible with the Xoom. Of course this problem is not only for this application, there are many others which are reported as not compatible ...
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I am using the latest nightly. In fact i have used all the December nightlies with no issues.
As far as gapps, i have used that lastest gapps 4.1.2 and i have tried gapps 4.2+. I used the gapps posted in the link on first page of this thread both packages i have experienced no issues, market is working fine, no incompatibilities.
As far as my comment about aking your questions.....ask in one place....no need to ask your question in every forum are start a new thread.....i was not being rude, it is in the forums rules.......
Good luck.....
Also, check your dpi settings....that will cause market issues. Search the forums & google the fix is simple...
Also try manual installing an older marker version or try or KDH 4.2 gapps.
These are all solutions to your issue(s). No one else may try and answer you question because they are not having or no longer have these issues.......what i posted above are the steps to fix the issue.
Sent by Samsung Galaxy Nexus (SCH-I515 Verizon LTE) using Tapa2

Thanks for these informations, I'll check this. But for now I have no problems with the market as I am using the 11/05 release. The problem came after this release and was known to be due to a free memory issue (check my first post of this thread). That's why I was asking if a recent release of CM10 did solve this problem.
EDIT : I just jumped from 11/05 nightly to 12/05, and I still have no problems with the Play Store, which means the Play Store compatibility problem has been solved in between these two releases ... Great news !

Thanks
Thanks man, that's what I needed to migrate, a good experience report.
I heard about incompatibilities, also that some apps won't work, but I can manage that. I'm now going to make a backup of my things and this weekend I want to install CM10. The main problem now is the backup, since I have a lot of things on it, both the internal memory and SD are quite full. XD

The most surprising thing is that I could not find any report about this bug correction, which was a very annoying bug, but I could find plenty of threads talking about this problem and trying to find workaround solutions ... None of them reported this bug does not exist anymore ...

Similar ROM experiences...
Chaosgod27 said:
TeamEOS has all the features you mentioned and you can update it easily as well. Don't need a computer, they use GooManager. In short they are both good ROMs, there is nothing to dislike about both of those ROMs, both teams have putted a lot of effort into optimising the XOOM and adding functions/features. It's all up to user preference, with CM ROMs I get random reboots, while TeamEOS I don't get any of that.
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I had similar random rebooting issues using the CM9 ROMs on my tablet which is why I use Team EOS. Both ROMs do have similar features and it comes down to user preference and which UI you prefer.. but BOTH are quality software and greatly appreciated!