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Cyanogen or froyo stock?

Hi, I just got my g2 from the free promotion thingy and im pretty much new to andriod. Should I stay on stock froyo or use cyanogen? And what are the advantages and disadvantages?
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I would root it. There are tons of things that are advantages, such taking some of the crapware that comes bundled on the phone, ability to put themes on your phone, and you get added features with cyanogenmod and other roms out there. The features you can check out for yourself, which can be found on changelogs, YouTube videos, forum post, etc. Spend some time, read that roms' forum thread and learn a few things along the way.
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It can be a tough decision.
First of all I am coming from a g1 that was running the latest stable cyanogenmod so the G2 has been an amazing phone stock. It is super fast and the display is seriously amazing. I did root it because I wanted to check out the cm7 nightlies and also the stable cm6.1.1.
First of all I actually like some of the apps that came pre-installed on the g2. Quickoffice is amazing and an excellent ppt, pdf, doc viewer. I did miss that on cyanogen and I also preferred the stock 2.2 scheme and app drawer. However these are the main differences. Everything else is very similar just with added functionality. You can manipulate every aspect of the UI including the power widget on the notification bar (my personal favorite). You can also overclock your cpu to squeeze some more performance out (up to 1.8ghz but I hear 1.4 is safer). You can also use your current data plan for tethering instead of having to pay extra.
But all in all if you don't require or need this functionality, just stay stock. The stock experience is excellent. I come from the G1 culture where we rooted just so we could stay relevant and get some decent speed on our long forgotten phones. That was the only reason I rooted before and quite possibly the only reason I'll root in the future.
I went back to stock to get my quick office back and I really don't mind the loss of functionality (for now) however I do miss the cool radio tuner.

Quickoffice is in CyanogenMod...
Anyway, root your phone and flash CyanogenMod. The stock experience is great and all but so many things just work better with CyanogenMod.
When you root, you obtain so many more capabilities. How would you like to remove every single advertisement you see? Well you can't do it unless you root.
There are so many more things but I just can't get into it. You'll sit here all day reading my post. Just take me word for it and root. You won't go wrong but READ READ READ all instructions and understand them before you do anything.
Yes, it is risky but only if you're stupid and/or rushing. Make sure you have the correct files and always make a backup. I keep them in a special place on me computer. I still have my stock backed up for if I ever have a problem.
It's a fun thing to get into. You learn a lot and will continue to learn. If you don't find out something new everyday with your G2, there's really no reason to have it, IMHO...
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Cyanogen is stock 2.3.2 with tons of extra features and extremely stable. Stock is 2.2.1 with a ton of bloat and no extra features. Seems like a no-brainer to me.

Root and flash cyanogen mod, awesome decision.

I am coming from a rooted G1 and I got my G2 from the free promotion and I rooted because I can't do without it. Once you have root, you won't ever want to go back. I rooted my G2 in the first 30 minutes that it was out of the box. Only down side that I can think of is that you can't have an inteligent conversation with a service rep. xD
You can get root and stay on the stock software/ROM but I don't recemend it, the whole Android experiance changes the moment you install a custom ROM.
The manufacturer and carrier has locked the phone down so much that they basically own the phone, they locked down the potential of the device so much that once you have root you'll be amazed about how much stuff you can now do on it.
YOU bought the phone, its YOURS, NOT the carrier's, NOT the manufacturer's but YOURS, why not make it so?
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I would also recommend that you check out some of the Desire Z/Sense ports (I'm using Virtuous). They're quite clean in terms of bloatware, but you get alot of extras, such as a superior camera/music player app, plugins (Facebook, Flickr, LinkedIn, etc), and more. You can still use ADW Launcher or Launcher Pro for your homescreen/app drawer.

root. install cyanogen. Obtain FM Radio = win

btate0121 said:
root. install cyanogen. Obtain FM Radio = win
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I got mine last Friday and I rooted just to get rid of the bloatware and for overclock.
The FM radio is a bonus... that's sweet.

Does rooting still void the warranty?
I waited until my warranty had run out with my G1 before I rooted it. Just afraid the phone'll break or so and I wont have any options.

metamet said:
Does rooting still void the warranty?
I waited until my warranty had run out with my G1 before I rooted it. Just afraid the phone'll break or so and I wont have any options.
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Technically, yes. However, it's pretty easy to flash a stock ROM back on if you break something.

I preordered my G2 after a long, rooted 2 years on the G1. When I first got the G2, I said I wouldn't root because it didn't need it. My G2 did everything the G1 did but much, much faster. Then I got tired of not having full control of my phone. I had apps I would never use running in the background plus numerous other things that I just had no control over. Then, the brilliant developers found root and I haven't looked back.
I have a lot of people with unrooted android devices around me and they are always blown away by what I can do with my G2. For me, rooting turned my smartPHONE into tiny PC that does calls.
I have a guy I work with who just picked up the new nexus. He was showing it to me and commented on the GB light when you hit the bottom of a page. Well he griped that he wanted the overscroll bounce back. I then showed him that with root and cyan, you can have both. He wasn't ammused as he is afraid to root.
I say read up on everything that is involved with rooting and flashing custom bits. When you feel comfy with it. Unlock that bish and make that G2 your own.
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what Pushed you to Root your SII ?

for me coming from an iphone and an ipad , i couldnt care less about rooting as i had alot more freedom than what i was used to even after jailbreak
But after a couple of weeks decided to root my device for 2 reasons , 1st was Samsung Kies cant imagine my self ever having to use it again what an awfull software , the second was Chain3d and the ability to play tegra games
I'd like to hear what the other users have to say , may be even help me explore more into the world of rooting

Chain fire , CWM , Ad Blocker , Root access and also that i can flash CM9 (ICS) as soon as it is available

I haven't rooted it yet. Waiting for ICS. Chainfire 3D sounds tempting, but I already have PS2, PS3 and PSP, so not much time for mobile gaming.

SetCPU and App Quarantine

My rebel spirit.

Titanium Backup and need for IPsec VPN.

roms and the fun of it
ICS when it comes too....the port is looking really good once they get over that speed bump with audio

ROM Flashing Disorder . there i said it

Mezoxin said:
the second was Chain3d and the ability to play tegra games
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How can you play tegra games on sgs2 please explain..
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I held off for a good few months... but then I fancied playing with a vanilla AOSP ROM. Now I've flashed about 12 kernels and countless ROMs.. Always come back to stock though, keep root for titanium.

mainly because it was so easy to do but the ability to use set cpu and custom roms makes it more fun too.
Still not got round to rooting my desire hd as it seems a lot of messing about

Tweaked kernels and rom customization, like removing unneeded system apps.

The fact that i bought it.

I rooted mainly to do the following:
Remove bloatware plus apps I don't use with TBackup
Customise the interface plus tweak CPU And services for extra battery.
A few decent apps require root access to function and because I like playing with the latest roms, titanium backup is something I just couldn't do without
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I'm some one who always want's to dig deep, dive into the system, bring it completely under my control and then do things the maker of the device didn't intend me be doing
Long story short, like do all that's possible and a bit more, tinker with the system.

To delete the damn Samsung bloatware!

A whole new world of possibilities are exposed when you root your SGSII, i rooted mine within hours of getting it and then flashed a custom ROM.
People who don't root their phone are basically missing out.

Errrrr why wouldn't you root the sgs 2. For starters I changed the dpi as 240 is childlike imho. And yes, I can't help but flash
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Well I rooted it and the first thing I did was unlock it. But, as with any Android device, you have to root (I feel). I'm on a miui build atm and just love how customizable the 'themes' are on it. I don't even use many root programs, just Twitter Facebook and a browser mainly, but its nice knowing I have root if I ever need it. An of course when a stable build of ICS comes out I'm going to try that.
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For using Mobile Odin pro to flash ROM with out increasing counter, Titanium Backup pro for all the goodies it offers, CWM, and for the freedom that I get after rooting!
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What are the benefits of using CM7?

I am super glad that I have the kindle fire and its getting so much developer attention. I will for sure eventually flash a custom rom onto it, definitely once/if bluetooth gets enabled on it.
I just never saw a thread explaining what is the purpose of CM7. Is it just to hack and play with the android. What exactly are the benefits of using CM7 over a stock firmware rooted kindle using 3rd party launcher?
Thanks for your answers.

I maybe wrong but I believe Amazon cannot toss on an Update without your Permission being just one benefit . Also TWRP should be installed prior to CM7 for a shield combo for that prevention.

yea amazon cant do that but dont you also lose the amazon app store?

No the Amazon app store is available on any Android device. You lose the Video app, and have to use the standard Kindle app. I for one love it, but my intention always was to use it as a tablet.
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CM's website is the best place to find out what its all about.
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/

For the most part, people are quite pleased with CM7 with the only real issue I am aware of being the inability to continue to use Amazon video (prime).
Many using it however don't really miss that.
I personally am still stock with AWD as my launcher and I use the Amazon Video from time to time as that was one of the reasons for my getting the device, however my KF look much more like a Droid Tablet now days.
When CM9 gets settled, I might give that a shot, but I think that might be a ways off.

borborpa said:
No the Amazon app store is available on any Android device. You lose the Video app, and have to use the standard Kindle app. I for one love it, but my intention always was to use it as a tablet.
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How is using stock not using it as a tablet especially once you load the full Android market? I guess maybe the way it handles notifications, etc? Not saying you're wrong or anything just kinda curious as to what you mean by that. Maybe you're answer will convince me to try cm7. For now, it seems to be a very capable tablet on stock rooted.

I love the stock rooted and using Go launcher....
however i tried CM7 and I hate the lack of good software buttons, the ones they have are too small for me to use

I'd like to see a carefully laid out step-by-step Instr. for this ICS. Those around appear for those technically inclined to fill in the slight lapses of keystokes.

what i liked in cm7 in my sgs (not found on stock rom)
haptic feedback customization (control how your phone vibrates)
Brightness customization (controls how and when back-light brightens or dims)
Lock-screen gestures
Built in Theme chooser
made using my phone easier.. might make my fire easier to use as well
also, cm7 provides the possibility of a miui port, and that rom made my phone 'cleaner' to look at

I find the CM7 port to be perfect for now. I'll wait until CM9 is more stable before I upgrade. For me, I like having the full selection of apps available (something you'll never get with Amazon+Root+Google Market.

the reason i use cm7 is because it allows true ownership over my device. i know there won't be any sneak updates. i know that there isn't any hidden spy features, and I know that none of the software on it is trying to screw me over.
i don't really care about any of amazon's features. I bought this device with no intention of using any of them, so it isn't really a loss for me.

[Q] How to get stock ICS/Honeycomb on fire

A couple of guys in my office got fires for Xmas, and they want to put a stock rom on them so they can use it like a normal tab and get the google market place.
Can someone point me to a tutorial for putting a new rom on a fire and a link to stock ICS or stock honeycomb for them?
Thanks.

derricks2 said:
A couple of guys in my office got fires for Xmas, and they want to put a stock rom on them so they can use it like a normal tab and get the google market place.
Can someone point me to a tutorial for putting a new rom on a fire and a link to stock ICS or stock honeycomb for them?
Thanks.
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There is no honeycomb port to the Fire (at least not yet anyway).
As for ICS, there is a port-in-progress that is in pre-alpha stage here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1411895
There is a stable (good for everyday use) port of CM7 (Gingerbread) here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1390773
As for how to flash ROMS, take a look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399889

we are pretty much stuck with gingerbread right now as said above.
I'm using the CM7 that he linked to above. Downsides to this are that you loose the ability to use amazon prime videos and lending. Basicly, you loose the stock amazon app (which is integrated into the OS), so these are not available. You can however use the Amazon app from google apps, which allows you to read amazon books.
The ICS builds that are in progress still have to many issues for me to try them. Occasional issues with accessing SD card, no hardware video support and patchy sound.

Like what the above poster stated, your best bet at thee moment is cm7 if you are looking for a good, stable, daily os with marketplaces access. I personally am using the pre-alpha ICS build and am loving it despite the issues but it really is just for testing at this point.
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Also the ICS builds do not support USB. So you would have to boot to TWRP to mount the SD card to load files from your PC to your Fire. Then boot back to the OS to use the device.

If they just want the google marketplace then you can root and install the market on the stock ROM. If you want a custom rom, your best bet right now is CM7. If you give it a month or two I'm sure there will be a decent ICS daily driver out.
It sort of depends on how far you need to go before they consider it a "normal tab." I use mine on the stock rom for stuff I would expect out of a normal tab.. watching video, reading, listening to music, some web browsing, every now and then some robo defense or the like, etc. It works fine like that for me.

Went back to unrooted.

I originally rooted to install google wallet. but I had so many problems with actually installing it that I just gave up and unrooted my phone. I tried out a few roms but until they get to 4.2 android (jelly beans/jedi) I think I'm going to take a breather from ROM bugs.

Right in time to stop me from rooting,I was hesitant all along after bricking my Note One by constantly playing with Custom Roms and Kernels,thats over six months ago,but looks like It has started itching me to repeat the process once again with my Note II, although,so far, I havent felt the need tbviously will pass on it for the time beeing.

And the point of this... Maybe I'll tell everyone I've turned the s note pop-up when removing the s-pen off. You know because I don't use it.

EmptyArea said:
And the point of this... Maybe I'll tell everyone I've turned the s note pop-up when removing the s-pen off. You know because I don't use it.
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Will never go back to unrooted..its just feels like stuck in a cage..and well replied the above user!..If you know what you are doing..rooting opens up unlimited possibilities!

Not sure how anyone has issues rooting with the fantastic tools available....I suggest you go download Samsung_Galaxy_Note2_ToolKit and use that. Seriously it doesn't get easier than that. I bought my Note 2 and within the first few hours I was rooted, just for the sake of being rooted.

If you choose custom roms with respected developers, you can rely on them. If thousands use the rom, possible bugs will be posted on its forum, and the rom will be updated. There are often bugs in official roms but you have to wait months for the fix there! Custom roms open a new world for you.

If you choose the right ROM, you won't have any problems. And several of them don't have any problems. If you want to be sure that it's as stable as possible, choose a Samsung based ROM and stock kernel. But more complex ROMs are mostly completely stable. I am on ESA NOTE with the abyss kernel and I don't have any problems at all. But I have tried others like Omega and ARHD with the same results.

It was more or less having problems getting google wallet to work. I do know a lot about rooting I've been doing it since the moto droid. I just could not get wallet to work consistently. And the rom bugs alot of times developers know about them but they take away a few things I like or the usefulness is gone because there is a slight issue due to porting. To say that there is a rom out there that doesn't have at least one major issue after its made would be to bury your head in the sand. I've tried a lot of the major more popular rooms and granted some features were really cool other things made me get rid of it.
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Root is not only to play with rom. I'm on stock rom, and rooted it in order to use Titanium Backup, AdWay and Android Firewall. The note II is my first Android phone for wich i dont feel the need to use a custom rom.

I always root, even if If I say on the stock ROM. Never had any issues.
If your device became unstable its down to the app or ROM you are trying to use not the fact that you have the ability to grant select apps root access

Rooting your device means allowing the administrative access to your device, not to install some damn ROMs. I'll always be on Stock ROM and will always be rooted.
OP's statement is moot.
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I use root for certain apps not for custom roms. Always stock for me
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The only reason why I unrooted my phone and stopped using custom roms is that I hate losing my apps data (for example, games progress) every time I try or upgrade to a new custom rom. Titanium backup is nice but it doesn't work perfectly like how iphone backup works....
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Rooting does not equate installing custom roms. I'm running stock 4.1.1 and rooted. The advantages are endless, freezing and backing up apps, using network apps such as dsploit, assigning endless amount of specific led colors for certain notifications/apps; the list is endless.

I've taken a break from custom roms since Sammy did an amazing job with stock, but I'll always be rooted. There's just too much to lose without root.
- ad blocking
- directory bind
- titanium backup
- freezing system apps
- spen gesture control app
- mobile Odin
- file managers with root access
Take away any one of those root-enabled feature and I would be really sad.
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