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[Q] Port backup from Hero to DesireHD?

Hi,
I currently own an HTC Hero, and will most likely be getting an HTC Desire HD.
Now, I have almost 150 apps on my Hero, and I really dread the hassle of re-installing and setting up everything to my liking. It has taken me almost a year to set this up the way I want it.
Would it be possible, using Titanium Backup, to make a backup of EVERYTHING possible on the Hero, and then switch the memorycard to the Desire HD and restore it there, maybe without the app settings? I am thinking that this could be a problem because of the different specs, but I do not know too much under-the-hood-stuff regarding Android.
I am hoping to not have to go through the market for that many downloads.
Any thoughts on this?
Kingkeld.

Market apps will automatically re-install when you sign in into your new phone. For the rest there is Titanium backup

I planned on doing the same, but doesn't Titanium require root?
I can't remember what it's like to not have root, the thought is scary

Try Android commander for the PC, Plug in your hero, goto application manager, select all the apps and click backup, then when you get your new phone selsct all the backed up apps and click install Hope it helps

christonabike said:
I planned on doing the same, but doesn't Titanium require root?
I can't remember what it's like to not have root, the thought is scary
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It does need root that is correct but I'm sure, as stated there are other ways to backup apps. I'm not sure about if you have your apps on ext partition though. I wager root wont take long and then comes recovery roms and then customs... mmm custom

Thank you for the replys. I can not sleep.
Now we just need a root confirmation. Yes, the thought of owning an unrooted phone is scary. Not sure what to think of it. I hope it will not last long.
All I ask is root. I can wait for the custom ROMs. There will be plenty to play with.

You just need to pick your apps from /data/data, copy them over with adb, and do a fix_permissions
See?
OR chmod by hand
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I used Titanium to migrate my app settings from Milestone to Nexus One, but they're on similar versions of Android and both are HDPI devices.
I can tell you that Market apps don't always reinstall automatically if you're going from one phone to another. In any case I suggest a fresh market install of your most important apps, and then restore their data by Titanium if necessary. If this causes a crash, wipe their data again. Less important apps, could just try restoring them directly. Run Titanium's Market Doctor when that's done.
I also suggest using apps like BookmarkSB, SMS Backup Restore, Call Log Backup Restore, etc to transfer those records. May work better than trying to Titanium restore data across different OS versions, and doesn't require root. Good luck! Let us know how it goes.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

Best program when getting a new phone?

What is the best program (for a non rooted phone) for backing up and restoring all Apps etc to a new phone? I am getting my don a new phone and thought I'd ask the smarties in the community. Please

Well, since its a new phone, I would start fresh and redownload your necessary programs. More or less, you're going to say to yourself "do I really need this program?" when you look back at the apps you currently have. Also, some programs may be incompatible with your new phone (especially between major android versions).

I am pretty sure you have to have a rooted phone to be able to do this with titanium backup.

Astro file manager is capable of backing up and restoring apps without requiring root. My wife uses it on her stock MT4G.
However, I'm not sure if it will work on a completely new phone...it might though. You'd obviously have to transfer the backed up information from the old phone's sd to the new one.

why not just root? you can always unroot afterwards.

probably the best two apps for a new phone - SuperOneclick following Rom manger

DR-EVIL23 said:
probably the best two apps for a new phone - SuperOneclick following Rom manger
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How remarkably off topic...thank you. Lol
Edit: Just realized you were likely responding to the title of the thread, not the actual question in the OP. I retract my remark, even though I was just playing around.
Sent from my Vibrant using XDA App

best program for getting a new android phone would have to be superuser imo

How to restore form Google Backup after rooting?

Nexus 7, rooted, back to OEM/Stock~~factory, prior to rooting, read all available documentation regarding backups, said everything was on Google "cloud".....now that I am OEM w/root, how do I get back everything I setup installed and configured for the last week?

guruuno said:
Nexus 7, rooted, back to OEM/Stock~~factory, prior to rooting, read all available documentation regarding backups, said everything was on Google "cloud".....now that I am OEM w/root, how do I get back everything I setup installed and configured for the last week?
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If I understand the process correctly - it saves settings regarding Google services. That is apps such as Currents, Play Store, Google Now, etc. It shouldn't backup things such as random app data (IE Angry Birds) - you'll need to use a third party app such as Titanium Backup or App2Zip. For a full system image of apps/settings you'll have to do a nandroid backup through a recovery program (IE ClockworkMod).
Hope that cleared things up a bit. You're gonna be SOL for most of your stuff for this time, but for next time just make sure to double and triple check everything because backups make the going-to-stock process so much nice

Mine did it as soon as I signed into my account on setup.
Some apps had to be installed again from My apps at Google play but the data also was there after they installed. I had some list and such from a notepad app and they were replaced with the app.

So then, the preferred application-procedure is?
James-NC said:
Mine did it as soon as I signed into my account on setup.
Some apps had to be installed again from My apps at Google play but the data also was there after they installed. I had some list and such from a notepad app and they were replaced with the app.
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So then, to be clear, to have a similar procedure, like iPad/iPhone syncing, there is nothing "built in", and 3rd party applications need to be purchased or obtained free.......so what is the clear winner (easiest, best, most preferred)?

So which process?
guruuno said:
So then, to be clear, to have a similar procedure, like iPad/iPhone syncing, there is nothing "built in", and 3rd party applications need to be purchased or obtained free.......so what is the clear winner (easiest, best, most preferred)?
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Maybe not clear. I already did my N7 and was lost. Wife has hers all tweaked, wants me to root. I just want to restore exactly like an iPad so nothing is lost. Preferred method being search foe. Would like advice.

guruuno said:
So then, to be clear, to have a similar procedure, like iPad/iPhone syncing, there is nothing "built in", and 3rd party applications need to be purchased or obtained free.......so what is the clear winner (easiest, best, most preferred)?
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Google Play can redownload the apps you previously got from them. It will also sync certain (but probably not all) settings, wifi passwords, etc. However, the process of downloading takes around 30-60m and usually app data is not part of this sync.
This, I prefer to use titanium backup to backup all user apps and data (as a rule of thumb, you generally don't want to do the same for system apps/data). The backup is stored on your sd card (so, for example, after wiping data you can restore all your apps within around 15m, asynchronously) and you can also have it backed up to the cloud. Tit backup requires root and the pro version costs around $7.
You can use it to backup system data (your settings and all that) but this is a bad idea when you use custom roms. I usually restore my apps and set the rest manually, the whole process takes around 20m.
I don't know how well itunes backs up app data, so I can't answer the comparison question.

Unlocking is what wipes the data, not rooting. You are already past the point of no return as the restore info you get back from google does not deal with a lot of app data. You could have before unlocking, done a process which would have saved it, but it is not a normal process and certainly not automatic.
you are past that however already.
Now you are rooted, you can use Titanium Backup to do a real backup and you can also do a nandroid backup using Recovery so you don't have to deal with this in the future.
HOWEVER, just doing those backups doesn't guarrantee you can access them if your device is lost/stolen or damage beyond repair. So you need to come up with a method to copy those backup files occasionally to workstation off from time to time so, you have something to restore.
Then if you have to setup a new device, you can unlock, root, load TB, copy the backup files to the device and then restore the system back to where it was when you did the last backup.

guruuno said:
Maybe not clear. I already did my N7 and was lost. Wife has hers all tweaked, wants me to root. I just want to restore exactly like an iPad so nothing is lost. Preferred method being search foe. Would like advice.
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You need root (and an app like Titanium Backup) to back up your app data, and you need to have an unlocked bootloader to root. If you didn't already unlock the bootloader on the Nexus 7, then there's nothing you can do to back up all your app data because unlocking the bootloader essentially resets the device. Without a backup program, the most you can do is sync your device with Google Play and have it reinstall your missing apps after you wipe your device (but it won't restore your app data).

But......
AZImmortal said:
You need root (and an app like Titanium Backup) to back up your app data, and you need to have an unlocked bootloader to root. If you didn't already unlock the bootloader on the Nexus 7, then there's nothing you can do to back up all your app data because unlocking the bootloader essentially resets the device. Without a backup program, the most you can do is sync your device with Google Play and have it reinstall your missing apps after you wipe your device (but it won't restore your app data).
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But I did "root", and I did lose all my data, like it was OEM out of the box, but rooted....
Unlocking? Why would I 'unlock'? If I only want to use USB memory stick isn't rooting all I want?
Therefore, I'd get which program to root only to preserve everything.
The confusing part is "You need root (and an app like Titanium Backup) to back up your app data"
How can I have Titanium if I don't root, and if I root, I lose everything?
(or did I maybe also unlock mine..... I'm really confused, all I want is a 1-2-3 root app to install the Stick Mount. Period)
Thanks again for the replies, I'm hopefully getting this Android stuff

guruuno said:
Unlocking? Why would I 'unlock'? If I only want to use USB memory stick isn't rooting all I want?
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You need to unlock in order to root (though you can relock it after if you want, I wouldn't recommend it in case you need to do so again) and flash stuff.
If you didn't relock it from earlier (i.e. if you still have that "unlocked" symbol on boot), you'll be able to root again just by flashing the superuser program.
guruuno said:
The confusing part is "You need root (and an app like Titanium Backup) to back up your app data"
How can I have Titanium if I don't root, and if I root unlock, I lose everything?
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Wug's root toolkit has a backup/restore option.
In general, however, the answer is yes. You are not able to (at least without expertise) backup data from prior to your first unlock. That's why it's recommended to unlock your device asap if you decide to do so.
(The OEMs wipe everything upon unlock for security reasons - the only way to get around this is to use an exploit rather than the "fastboot oem unlock" command, but the discovery of such exploits is unpredictable.)

OK, here I go
thebobp said:
You need to unlock in order to root (though you can relock it after if you want, I wouldn't recommend it in case you need to do so again) and flash stuff.
If you didn't relock it from earlier (i.e. if you still have that "unlocked" symbol on boot), you'll be able to root again just by flashing the superuser program.
Wug's root toolkit has a backup/restore option.
In general, however, the answer is yes. You are not able to (at least without expertise) backup data from prior to your first unlock. That's why it's recommended to unlock your device asap if you decide to do so.
(The OEMs wipe everything upon unlock for security reasons - the only way to get around this is to use an exploit rather than the "fastboot oem unlock" command, but the discovery of such exploits is unpredictable.)
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Thanks for the attention to detail, I appreciate it.

I just install cm10 and I noticed that the settings such as wifi passwords etc have not been restored. Any ideas on how to restore them? I'd post on their thread but they don't have one for the N7 and I still don't have the privileges.

[Q] Root DHD for Jelly bean with full back up?

First off I need to say thank to all of you for this amazing forum. I did do some research before posting this but it's so much info overload that I decided that I need some help. As you all know DHD doesn't get any upgrade above 2.3.5 and personally I am disappointed that I want to root it.
My problem is I have in it many applications for my job, like stock portfolios and so on and I need to know if I can root the phone but keep the apps and their settings saved. (Ok, ok I admit I don't wanna lose progress on some games also... shoot me ).
So if I root what can I save? What can't I save? And if possible some guides on upgrading it in Jelly bean version. Also will I be able to download from the google store? or like in Jailbreaked iphones I need to download from somewhere else? I don't want someone to compose a guide but if possible step by step links to visit so I can do it myself. Of course as the forum states no responsibility to any of you if something goes wrong.
Thanks in advance!

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lordaccess said:
First off I need to say thank to all of you for this amazing forum. I did do some research before posting this but it's so much info overload that I decided that I need some help. As you all know DHD doesn't get any upgrade above 2.3.5 and personally I am disappointed that I want to root it.
My problem is I have in it many applications for my job, like stock portfolios and so on and I need to know if I can root the phone but keep the apps and their settings saved. (Ok, ok I admit I don't wanna lose progress on some games also... shoot me ).
So if I root what can I save? What can't I save? And if possible some guides on upgrading it in Jelly bean version. Also will I be able to download from the google store? or like in Jailbreaked iphones I need to download from somewhere else? I don't want someone to compose a guide but if possible step by step links to visit so I can do it myself. Of course as the forum states no responsibility to any of you if something goes wrong.
Thanks in advance!
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Hi, its really simple to find information about rooting the DHD. Try this to root your phone http://www.xda-developers.com/android/how-to-root-the-htc-desire-hd/. A complete backup without root is not possible. But you can backup your personal user data with various backup tools which you can find in the play store.

lordaccess said:
So if I root what can I save? What can't I save? And if possible some guides on upgrading it in Jelly bean version. Also will I be able to download from the google store? or like in Jailbreaked iphones I need to download from somewhere else? I don't want someone to compose a guide but if possible step by step links to visit so I can do it myself. Of course as the forum states no responsibility to any of you if something goes wrong.
Thanks in advance!
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If you need to downgrade before root (Some firmwares do), you will loose everything. But after root, your contacts and apps should load again from Google Play (if you checked "backup my phone" in settings). After root, you can use Titanium Backup to backup all your apps with data, so when you change ROMs, you don't have to reinstall everything from Google Play and you won't lose settings/progress. But I think that Titanium wouldn't work on unrooted phones... so most probably you must loose settings/progress once, in order to root.
You might be able to backup your SMSes with SMS Backup and Restore (available on Play)
When you root you download everything from Google Play, just as always. This is NOT similar to "jailbraking", Android is not closed as iOS. Rooting means you have access to SYSTEM files.

lordaccess said:
First off I need to say thank to all of you for this amazing forum. I did do some research before posting this but it's so much info overload that I decided that I need some help. As you all know DHD doesn't get any upgrade above 2.3.5 and personally I am disappointed that I want to root it.
My problem is I have in it many applications for my job, like stock portfolios and so on and I need to know if I can root the phone but keep the apps and their settings saved. (Ok, ok I admit I don't wanna lose progress on some games also... shoot me ).
So if I root what can I save? What can't I save? And if possible some guides on upgrading it in Jelly bean version. Also will I be able to download from the google store? or like in Jailbreaked iphones I need to download from somewhere else? I don't want someone to compose a guide but if possible step by step links to visit so I can do it myself. Of course as the forum states no responsibility to any of you if something goes wrong.
Thanks in advance!
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Use mybackup from Play Store and you can backup all your information without root. With root you are able to backup all the rom to a certain point in time.

glevitan said:
Use mybackup from Play Store and you can backup all your information without root. With root you are able to backup all the rom to a certain point in time.
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Just curious: does MyBackup back up app data as well as apps without root?

bananagranola said:
Just curious: does MyBackup back up app data as well as apps without root?
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Great advice! Btw from what I read it backs up everything except app data. I wonder if there is a folder I can copy paste when I see my device as a hard drive that has the app data inside.
Also with the MyBackup I can restore everything after I root my phone? In the rooted version I mean?

lordaccess said:
Great advice! Btw from what I read it backs up everything except app data. I wonder if there is a folder I can copy paste when I see my device as a hard drive that has the app data inside.
Also with the MyBackup I can restore everything after I root my phone? In the rooted version I mean?
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The reason I asked about app data is because I was under the impression that rooting gives you access to the partitions where that app data is stored; without root, you can't access where the app data is stored (and so the copy-paste plan is probably impossible). App data is where app settings are saved; without it, MyBackup restores apps as if they were freshly installed from the Play Store, without any other settings saved.
Apps like MyBackup and Titanium Backup and App Manager generally back things up to your sdcard, which isn't affected by any of AAHK's functions.
Like someone above said, if you need to downgrade back to Froyo, I'm not aware of a method by which you can save all your apps and their data.
By the way, I believe an app called Go Backup (not Go Backup Pro) also lets you back up apps (and only apps, not data) without root.

You can backup programs with My Phone Explorer, but programs are not an issue - they will be downloaded automatically from Play Store...

dalanik said:
You can backup programs with My Phone Explorer, but programs are not an issue - they will be downloaded automatically from Play Store...
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For some reason, Google's app sync doesn't work sometimes for me on certain ROMs. I'm not sure why; I never looked into it, since I usually back my apps up with App Manager anyway.

@lordaccess
here i a link to Advanced Hack Kit the one in the post above is dead. the author of the hack kit took it down
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?cws4i8cclb93s4v
remember to read the ENTIRE effin manual!!!

bananagranola said:
For some reason, Google's app sync doesn't work sometimes for me on certain ROMs. I'm not sure why; I never looked into it, since I usually back my apps up with App Manager anyway.
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True, but you can always go to Play on a computer and your purchased apps and "send" them to phone... yes, a bit of work, but better than nothing, at least there's a list of apps and it's easier to install them from computer than from a phone

dalanik said:
True, but you can always go to Play on a computer and your purchased apps and "send" them to phone... yes, a bit of work, but better than nothing, at least there's a list of apps and it's easier to install them from computer than from a phone
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Kinda discouraged to do the root if I can't save the app data :/ I will look at what I will lose and how easy I can regain them and decide. In the meantime does anyone know why my address book doesn't sync with google? (even though the sync is on)

Try to put as much files as you can in the cloud. Make screenshots of other information that you want to keep. Make a back up of your SD-card.

TheJokah said:
@lordaccess
here i a link to Advanced Hack Kit the one in the post above is dead. the author of the hack kit took it down
remember to read the ENTIRE effin manual!!!
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You shouldn´t use a mirror for the Hack Kit. You don't own it and therefore won't support it. Besides the Kit has been updated lately so, please remove the link and direct people to attn1's site.
http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=74

lordaccess said:
Kinda discouraged to do the root if I can't save the app data :/ I will look at what I will lose and how easy I can regain them and decide. In the meantime does anyone know why my address book doesn't sync with google? (even though the sync is on)
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Consider purchasing Titanium Backup (or trying out out the trial version). It just started letting you backup app data WITHOUT root using ADB. See: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-adb-backups-without-root-other-improvements/. It will also very much come in handy once you are rooted.

Backup before Root

I am completely new to rooting and, if I understand correctly, the process of rooting (specifically unlocking the boatloader) will wipe your apps and their data. What can I do, pre-root, to backup my app data? I have Google's backup on, but from what I can tell, it really doesn't do jack sneezle (I assume that's because Google doesn't require app developers to make their app data (settings, login, etc.) compliant with their backup system). Reinstalling the apps isn't a huge deal to me, but having to recustomize ALL my settings and login to everything again is a pain in the keister. Any suggestions? Is there any apps out there to facilitate this transition period? Let me know what you guys think. If possible, give multiple methods, and let me know which one you find the best. Thanks!

I don't know of any way to back up your apps and data without being rooted. I think you are just going to have to bite the bullet. You need root access before you can even access the folders that app data is stored in.

you havent unlocked the bootloader yet..
so probably no way to back up the data beforehand..
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you can use adb backup & restore commands to back up and restore, but im not sure if its possible to just restore the app data without overwrite the whole device..

Try Helium. Requires a PC.
There aren't many methods to backup on an unrooted phone.