What is the best program (for a non rooted phone) for backing up and restoring all Apps etc to a new phone? I am getting my don a new phone and thought I'd ask the smarties in the community. Please
Well, since its a new phone, I would start fresh and redownload your necessary programs. More or less, you're going to say to yourself "do I really need this program?" when you look back at the apps you currently have. Also, some programs may be incompatible with your new phone (especially between major android versions).
I am pretty sure you have to have a rooted phone to be able to do this with titanium backup.
Astro file manager is capable of backing up and restoring apps without requiring root. My wife uses it on her stock MT4G.
However, I'm not sure if it will work on a completely new phone...it might though. You'd obviously have to transfer the backed up information from the old phone's sd to the new one.
why not just root? you can always unroot afterwards.
probably the best two apps for a new phone - SuperOneclick following Rom manger
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probably the best two apps for a new phone - SuperOneclick following Rom manger
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How remarkably off topic...thank you. Lol
Edit: Just realized you were likely responding to the title of the thread, not the actual question in the OP. I retract my remark, even though I was just playing around.
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best program for getting a new android phone would have to be superuser imo
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Sorry if this is a stupid question but I just got my Hero and thus far I love it but from what I've been reading about ap2sd it seems like it's a wise choice to do this, but I have a few questions.
1. If you root the phone and install ap2sd, all apps downloaded from there are stored onto the SD card as well as all their data, no? Meaning this will free up usable memory for the phone when you have several apps open at a time...?
2. If I root my phone and install ap2sd, is it still possible to install any official, updated ROMs from HTC without having to re-root and re-install ap2sd?
3. If I make a back-up of my ROM before rooting, then if I have any issues with the phone I could restore that and then it would seem like nothing has ever been done to the phone, right?
I'm a bit new to the whole messing with you phone thing, which is why I got an android phone to begin with, so it's exciting but I also don't want to brick the thing...hence all the questions.
Thanks.
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Sorry if this is a stupid question but I just got my Hero and thus far I love it but from what I've been reading about ap2sd it seems like it's a wise choice to do this, but I have a few questions.
1. If you root the phone and install ap2sd, all apps downloaded from there are stored onto the SD card as well as all their data, no? Meaning this will free up usable memory for the phone when you have several apps open at a time...?
2. If I root my phone and install ap2sd, is it still possible to install any official, updated ROMs from HTC without having to re-root and re-install ap2sd?
3. If I make a back-up of my ROM before rooting, then if I have any issues with the phone I could restore that and then it would seem like nothing has ever been done to the phone, right?
I'm a bit new to the whole messing with you phone thing, which is why I got an android phone to begin with, so it's exciting but I also don't want to brick the thing...hence all the questions.
Thanks.
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Hi,
1. When you open up a lot of applications at a time, the memory being affected is the RAM which is different from the concept of ap2sd. On the HTC hero you have 512 ROM memory to install programs. The os and customisations oh HTC takes a good part of that and you remain like 150mb ROM for programs. If you do not install lots and lots of programs, ap2sd is somewhat useless IMHO.
2.You don't have to unroot ... to install the updates from HTC. It will be unrooted by itself during the process but you can use custom roms ( like Paul's ones ) where root and a2sd is already integrated in the rom process.
3. Yes it is always advised to make a nandroid backup whenever upgrading. If you encounter any problem, you'll be able to revert back .
I use ap2sd as i only had 43mb left on my phone. i`ve just installed all my apps again now and my phone memory is still at 153mb
Very happy with it.
Thanks for the replies. I guess I wasn't too clear about the whole memory usage. I understand that open apps are in the RAM but I was wondering if you use ap2sd if all the stored user data for the applications are then stored on the SD card along with the application itself.
As for the rooting, if you're phone is rooted, are you still able to easily install updated roms from HTC (not custom roms) or will it yell at you? I suspect it won't care, but I'm just curious.
Sorry for the lame questions. This whole hacking your phone thing is completely new to me. It's pretty damn cool though...
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As for the rooting, if you're phone is rooted, are you still able to easily install updated roms from HTC (not custom roms) or will it yell at you? I suspect it won't care, but I'm just curious.
Sorry for the lame questions. This whole hacking your phone thing is completely new to me. It's pretty damn cool though...
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Well concerning the OTA updates, nobody knows for sure cause till now , none is out yet. Some say only branded phones will have OTA, unbranded ones will download firmwares from the htc site ( just like it was with previous htc's)
But anyway, even if you rooted ur phone, u can always download the update and apply it. its no problem.
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Thanks for the replies. I guess I wasn't too clear about the whole memory usage. I understand that open apps are in the RAM but I was wondering if you use ap2sd if all the stored user data for the applications are then stored on the SD card along with the application itself.
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Many apps will store user data on SD card without having to use A2SD.
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Dave
i am getting a replacement phone on monday (to get rid of the loose volume keys) and i was wondering if there was a way to clone the existing phone with clockwork and reflash the new phone with all the seetings, apps and homescreen modifications i have already made so that i dont have to do all that crap again...im lazy. any insight would be appriciated otherwise i will try to figure it out myself. i did try to search and looked in the sticky thread but i couldnt find anything
Did you come up with anything?
I am in the same boat with a twist
I have a touch pro that I'd like to clone to an at&t fuze, and then also clone to an at&t tilt 2
the original tp is running elite rc4.
There are commercial software packages to do this, but they are expensive, eg
http://spb.com/pocketpc-software/clone/
At us$299, it's a bit more than I'd be willing to spend for such rare usage. Plus it doesn't support custom roms either :-(
You can use Titanium Backup, if you have root, to copy all the apps and system info to your internal memory. Then, copy that to your hard drive. When you get the new phone, copy this folder to your internal memory, and, after rooting, restore it to your new phone.
Ahh, it's an android phone, my bad :-/
I would presume a Nandroid restore would suffice so long as you're getting the same phone (which I presume is the case with the word "replacement"). Of course, you would still need to root and install clockwork recovery. The other option is Titanium Backup, but, again, you still need to root. The only reason to go with TB as the option is if you somehow get a slightly different firmware installed, but not likely since we're still only dealing with a leaked ROM update and nothing official.
Hi,
I currently own an HTC Hero, and will most likely be getting an HTC Desire HD.
Now, I have almost 150 apps on my Hero, and I really dread the hassle of re-installing and setting up everything to my liking. It has taken me almost a year to set this up the way I want it.
Would it be possible, using Titanium Backup, to make a backup of EVERYTHING possible on the Hero, and then switch the memorycard to the Desire HD and restore it there, maybe without the app settings? I am thinking that this could be a problem because of the different specs, but I do not know too much under-the-hood-stuff regarding Android.
I am hoping to not have to go through the market for that many downloads.
Any thoughts on this?
Kingkeld.
Market apps will automatically re-install when you sign in into your new phone. For the rest there is Titanium backup
I planned on doing the same, but doesn't Titanium require root?
I can't remember what it's like to not have root, the thought is scary
Try Android commander for the PC, Plug in your hero, goto application manager, select all the apps and click backup, then when you get your new phone selsct all the backed up apps and click install Hope it helps
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I planned on doing the same, but doesn't Titanium require root?
I can't remember what it's like to not have root, the thought is scary
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It does need root that is correct but I'm sure, as stated there are other ways to backup apps. I'm not sure about if you have your apps on ext partition though. I wager root wont take long and then comes recovery roms and then customs... mmm custom
Thank you for the replys. I can not sleep.
Now we just need a root confirmation. Yes, the thought of owning an unrooted phone is scary. Not sure what to think of it. I hope it will not last long.
All I ask is root. I can wait for the custom ROMs. There will be plenty to play with.
You just need to pick your apps from /data/data, copy them over with adb, and do a fix_permissions
See?
OR chmod by hand
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I used Titanium to migrate my app settings from Milestone to Nexus One, but they're on similar versions of Android and both are HDPI devices.
I can tell you that Market apps don't always reinstall automatically if you're going from one phone to another. In any case I suggest a fresh market install of your most important apps, and then restore their data by Titanium if necessary. If this causes a crash, wipe their data again. Less important apps, could just try restoring them directly. Run Titanium's Market Doctor when that's done.
I also suggest using apps like BookmarkSB, SMS Backup Restore, Call Log Backup Restore, etc to transfer those records. May work better than trying to Titanium restore data across different OS versions, and doesn't require root. Good luck! Let us know how it goes.
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Hi - I got a warranty replacement Atrix from AT&T and am now faced with moving all my settings/apps/etc. from my old Atrix to the new one. The phone is not rooted. MotoBlur will restore minimal settings and Android Market reinstalls my paid apps though other than spending hours setting up my new Atrix to match my old one, does anyone have any way/suggestions to easily transfer all my settings/programs from my old Atrix to my new one? I called Moto support - total waste of time; I knew more than the tech about software/features of the phone.
Thanks in advance for any assistance. I tried a google search of backup/restore functions but didn't have much like. Astro file manager backed up everthing to my SD but, when i tried to restore, Atrix wouldn't allow install of "non-secure" apps.
To restore everything you´ll need to root. Then you can use Titanium Backup...
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Hi - I got a warranty replacement Atrix from AT&T and am now faced with moving all my settings/apps/etc. from my old Atrix to the new one. The phone is not rooted. MotoBlur will restore minimal settings and Android Market reinstalls my paid apps though other than spending hours setting up my new Atrix to match my old one, does anyone have any way/suggestions to easily transfer all my settings/programs from my old Atrix to my new one? I called Moto support - total waste of time; I knew more than the tech about software/features of the phone.
Thanks in advance for any assistance. I tried a google search of backup/restore functions but didn't have much like. Astro file manager backed up everthing to my SD but, when i tried to restore, Atrix wouldn't allow install of "non-secure" apps.
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If have to root your phone to be able to do any backup restore. Titanium backup is the most preferred app for backup/restore. If you don't want to install this app, you can still enable sideloading (allow install of "non secured" apps) using guidance from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969960. You will still have to root your phone for this.
any way to do this without root?
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any way to do this without root?
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Yes for the apps, heres a batch installer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=559491
I bought a Desire Z about two weeks before the 1.72.405.2 OTA update came along, and I allowed it to update (Yeah I know, this was after all my first Android device).
Anyway, lately my phones been running slowly and apps force closing, so I've decided to downgrade it and root it (psneuter method), and try some different ROM's.
What I was wondering is, what would be the best way without root, to backup as much of my data as possible, apps, sms, files, and also if possible a backup that I can use in case I scew it up, so I can get it back to the way it is now.
I have a copy of:-
RUU_Vision_HTC_WWE_1.34.405.5_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155556_signed
which I believe is the stock ROM for this device, but as far as I know if it goes wrong I'll be unable to flash this as the update won't allow me to flash an earlier version..
Would I be able to mount and then backup the whole phone using adb or any other method.
I've been reading about it for a while now, and while I have lots of bits of information, I've been unable to find a good solution.
Thanks,
...John...
j0hn0n1 said:
I bought a Desire Z about two weeks before the 1.72.405.2 OTA update came along, and I allowed it to update (Yeah I know, this was after all my first Android device).
What I was wondering is, what would be the best way without root, to backup as much of my data as possible, apps, sms, files, and also if possible a backup that I can use in case I scew it up, so I can get it back to the way it is now.
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Without root, a good app to backup your other apps is astro file manager, its available free from the market, you just have to hit menu, tools and it'll back up all the apps on your sd card, in terms of files, just make sure their all on your sd card and they'll be fine
Not sure how to back up SmS but i know their are apps out their, a point you may have forgotten is to make sure you back up your contacts as they all get wiped and I made this mistake, the easiest way to do that is to make sure your contacts sync up with your google account so after rooting, you can just sync them back,
Hope i helped!
Use google to remember what apps you've downloaded from market. Once associated, when you flash a new rom, google will automatically redownload all your associated apps. For sms, i suggest you download GoSMS and use their internal backup feature. It will save to sd and be visible to your stock sms app as well on restore.
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Ya but too many times google starts restoring apps that I uninstalled months ago. Great idea but bad implementation imo.
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Sorry I haven't replied, was in work all day yesterday.
I have Astro File Manager, but I hadn't even considered it, thanks. I have my contacts sync'd with Google, so it seems that as long as I backup my files and sms everything else should be done automatically anyway.
Go SMS seems worth getting anyway, as the bog standard Android messages app is seriously dull. I'll give it a try.
I had wondered about Google Market restoring apps, but I thought it would only reinstall apps that were installed at the last sync.
If you install an app and it screws up your phone, and do a factory reset then Google will just reinstall the app that caused all the problems in the first place.
Definitely a good idea, but needs more work.
Anyway, thanks for all the info, I'll give it try tonight, when I get back from work.
...John...
I find SMS Backup & Restore to be the best app for this purpose and I wouldn't recommend the backup feature from the market, as you said it is likely to give problems.
Without root though, the backup choices are somewhat limited for apps and such.
I've been using Super Manager by gpc. It works pretty good, plus offers a ton of other features that can be used with or without root.
I've backed up what I could, although it's typical that as soon as it's all gone I realised things that I should have wrote down (I had been using the wallet/pocket app and although I backed up all my apps, I'm guesing it won't have backed up any of the passwords, logins, bank details, etc).
Anyway, I've downgraded and successfully rooted my phone (through gfree), I have CID: 11111111 and S-Off, but I haven't installed and ROM's yet as I read somewhere that you are supposed to wipe everything between ROM's, am I wiping the Davlik cache or doing a factory reset (I mean won't the factory reset just reset my stock ROM back to it's original condition).
I'm also wondering about finding custom ROMs, on my dell streak I had installed ROM Manager and could get a list of any that were available.
I first installed ROM Manager and used it to flash recovery, but this time I've installed CWM first, so would it be safe to install ROM Manager now, will it want to flash a recovery over the one I have already.
Or is it not advisable to use ROM Manager, as I have previously heard of a few problems it may cause.
Thanks ...John...
Rom manager shouldn't give any problems, but for custom roms it's best to take a look at the development forum. If you don't like that you can still use the list in rommanager, it might be just me who prefers downloading roms to my pc first.
But before you install any of them I recommend you make a nandroid backup from recovery just to be safe.
I think the issues were that some people, not all, found problems flashing some of the gingerbread roms via Rom manager. Better to save the Rom to SD and then flash it via CWM.
Right I've done a nandroid backup, and I've saved one to another mSD card which I can keep somewhere just in case (probably a bit over cautious, but...).
I thought that by saving apps to an sd card, they would run from the sd when I restarted my phone, even the ones that I had moved previously with the application manager in settings are not seen.
Still reinstalling the ones I want isn't really that bad.
Seriously, somebody needs to sort out the Markets app backups feature, when I was setting up the phone at first, I specifically chose to not automatically sync with Google and that I would do it manually when needed. Then I went in to the market to get a file manager and the download failed, it was only when I looked at what was going on I realised it was already downloading and reinstalling 96 apps. I looked around for a 'cancel all' option and there isn't any, so I had to cancel them all one by one and then uninstall the ones that had managed to install.
A simple checklist to select the apps you want would be great, oh, and a cancel all button would be a bonus.
Anyway, things are not as much fun when they're too easy.
Thanks ...John...