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Hi all,
Appreciate a bit of help.
Ive successfully backed up my applications with titanium backup after rooting my phone but am i correct in thinking i wont be able to restore these applications until 2.1 is rooted too?
Its just i will lose almost £50 worth of games and applications if this is the case.
Ive looked for another way of backing up without rooting but most of my applications came up as "private" so i couldnt back them up.
Ive waited along time for this 2.1 upgrade and i dont want to be left behind if my applications are too.
thanks for any help
If you paid for those apps through the market, you will still be able to download them (for free) when you upgrade to 2.1.
Because you have got google account, market will "remember" that you have bought those apps before and will let you just download them again, without paying. Unless you create new google account (because i.e. you forgot the password to old one).
thnx for the replies.
actually most of them they were from PLAYNOW.
6 HD games at £5 each, The rest were MarketPlace
I did recieve a .apk file with each game when i downloaded them from playnow and saved each one to my PC hoping i could reinstall if needed.
Only thing is i used a different number to download the paid apps from PLAYNOW to which i no longer have.
So i have a Titanium backup and the orignal .apk files i recieved so this should be enough to get them installed after upgrade i hope.
Anyone know if the original apk will reinstall ok after i upgrade?
got a friend with an android phone? try installing it on his and see what happens
Hi,
I currently own an HTC Hero, and will most likely be getting an HTC Desire HD.
Now, I have almost 150 apps on my Hero, and I really dread the hassle of re-installing and setting up everything to my liking. It has taken me almost a year to set this up the way I want it.
Would it be possible, using Titanium Backup, to make a backup of EVERYTHING possible on the Hero, and then switch the memorycard to the Desire HD and restore it there, maybe without the app settings? I am thinking that this could be a problem because of the different specs, but I do not know too much under-the-hood-stuff regarding Android.
I am hoping to not have to go through the market for that many downloads.
Any thoughts on this?
Kingkeld.
Market apps will automatically re-install when you sign in into your new phone. For the rest there is Titanium backup
I planned on doing the same, but doesn't Titanium require root?
I can't remember what it's like to not have root, the thought is scary
Try Android commander for the PC, Plug in your hero, goto application manager, select all the apps and click backup, then when you get your new phone selsct all the backed up apps and click install Hope it helps
christonabike said:
I planned on doing the same, but doesn't Titanium require root?
I can't remember what it's like to not have root, the thought is scary
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It does need root that is correct but I'm sure, as stated there are other ways to backup apps. I'm not sure about if you have your apps on ext partition though. I wager root wont take long and then comes recovery roms and then customs... mmm custom
Thank you for the replys. I can not sleep.
Now we just need a root confirmation. Yes, the thought of owning an unrooted phone is scary. Not sure what to think of it. I hope it will not last long.
All I ask is root. I can wait for the custom ROMs. There will be plenty to play with.
You just need to pick your apps from /data/data, copy them over with adb, and do a fix_permissions
See?
OR chmod by hand
;]
I used Titanium to migrate my app settings from Milestone to Nexus One, but they're on similar versions of Android and both are HDPI devices.
I can tell you that Market apps don't always reinstall automatically if you're going from one phone to another. In any case I suggest a fresh market install of your most important apps, and then restore their data by Titanium if necessary. If this causes a crash, wipe their data again. Less important apps, could just try restoring them directly. Run Titanium's Market Doctor when that's done.
I also suggest using apps like BookmarkSB, SMS Backup Restore, Call Log Backup Restore, etc to transfer those records. May work better than trying to Titanium restore data across different OS versions, and doesn't require root. Good luck! Let us know how it goes.
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Im using Titainiam backup (free version), is there anyway to back up all apps/SMS/contacts/other data with just 1 click? From what I can find you have to select each 1 seperatly?
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About...3 clicks. Menu -> Batch and from there select the one that fits your needs the best.
Quick question re Titanium Backup.... It says it needs "ROOT", does this mean it will not work with a non-rooted system??
I'm using the standard Orange, non-messed with Android (which I'm quite happy with), can I still use Titanium Backup?
you need root access...
L0gan said:
you need root access...
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Ok, so could anyone recommend a backup for apps/data (with the hopefully upcoming Gingerbread update in mind), that doesn't need root?
Riceburner said:
Ok, so could anyone recommend a backup for apps/data (with the hopefully upcoming Gingerbread update in mind), that doesn't need root?
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You can try Mybackup Pro
The problem with non-root backups is they can't backup everything.
If you don't want to root, then you will probably not be able to backup your apps+data.
Hello, sprite backup ( latest version compatible with Gingerbreak ) save and restore contacts,calendar ... even if you have an unrooted phone ( mine is unrooted and i've restored contacts successfully ) .
shaithis said:
The problem with non-root backups is they can't backup everything.
If you don't want to root, then you will probably not be able to backup your apps+data.
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Do you what they won't backup?
TBH, Data I'm not so worried about (everything is backed up to the google account online anyway), it's the apps that I've downloaded and paid for that I don't want to lose.
GoSMS Pro will do this for you. I mnow it is a whole seperate SMS app, but it is a guaranteed way for it to work, and doesn't take long. And you might find you like it for SMS anyway
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i have a problem here that its stuck in root require and nothing happening my phone is rooted and all the apps working well.
Hi Riceburner
Riceburner said:
Do you what they won't backup?
TBH, Data I'm not so worried about (everything is backed up to the google account online anyway), it's the apps that I've downloaded and paid for that I don't want to lose.
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You [will] would not lose anything, they are always available for re-download on the Market or the AppBrain Android Market, unless you use their remove option to remove them from either of your lists of Apps.
Take Care
TheQuest
Hi zizu66
zizu66 said:
i have a problem here that its stuck in root require and nothing happening my phone is rooted and all the apps working well.
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What is stuck in root?
When ever a App tries to gain Root Access for the first time Superuser will appear on your screen and Ask if you what to give the App Root Permission or not, and whether to remember the permissions that are given [the default is remember].
Take Care
TheQuest
I'm TheQuest said:
Hi Riceburner
You [will] would not lose anything, they are always available for re-download on the Market or the AppBrain Android Market, unless you use their remove option to remove them from either of your lists of Apps.
Take Care
TheQuest
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True.
ok, cheers.
Mind you - it's all academic anyway because I have no idea when (or even if) I'll be getting the update. Still seem to be stuck on 1.84.61.2 (as far as I can see). Orange aren't known for their speed on software upgrades.
I'm TheQuest said:
Hi Riceburner
You [will] would not lose anything, they are always available for re-download on the Market or the AppBrain Android Market, unless you use their remove option to remove them from either of your lists of Apps.
Take Care
TheQuest
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You sure about that? I am sure google only keeps a copy (id) of what you have downloaded, but not the data within the app. So for example you bought a game, google will know you have bought the game so you can download it, but the data on the game will be lost, i.e. high scores etc...
And also, what about data from apps that you have not use a store, i.e. you used an installer to install it, the data will be lost for that app.
MyBackup Pro is good, but it can't backup the data within the apps (unroot) and that is the problem because of google security.
yes i know that but the superuser app dont appear for me i dont know why?and its just for this app.all other apps appear for me and there is no problem.when i start the app its i get trying to gain root access and the superuser app dont appear???
so this is a no go then
Hi springy
springy said:
You sure about that? I am sure google only keeps a copy (id) of what you have downloaded, but not the data within the app. So for example you bought a game, google will know you have bought the game so you can download it, but the data on the game will be lost, i.e. high scores etc...
And also, what about data from apps that you have not use a store, i.e. you used an installer to install it, the data will be lost for that app.
MyBackup Pro is good, but it can't backup the data within the apps (unroot) and that is the problem because of google security.
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Yes I am sure of what I wrote, I did not say anything about data being stored.
I do not know about what MyBackUp can and can not do.
Titanium BackUp can back up all Apps and Data. [data can not be restore to a different Rom though]
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TheQuest
Hi zizu66
zizu66 said:
yes i know that but the superuser app dont appear for me i dont know why?and its just for this app.all other apps appear for me and there is no problem.when i start the app its i get trying to gain root access and the superuser app dont appear???
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Do you a CWM installed, if so you could try booting in to recovery, and use the fix permissions to see if it helps to clear the problem with SU.
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TheQuest
Hi jaggysnake
jaggysnake said:
so this is a no go then
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Are you talking to yourself?
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What is the best program (for a non rooted phone) for backing up and restoring all Apps etc to a new phone? I am getting my don a new phone and thought I'd ask the smarties in the community. Please
Well, since its a new phone, I would start fresh and redownload your necessary programs. More or less, you're going to say to yourself "do I really need this program?" when you look back at the apps you currently have. Also, some programs may be incompatible with your new phone (especially between major android versions).
I am pretty sure you have to have a rooted phone to be able to do this with titanium backup.
Astro file manager is capable of backing up and restoring apps without requiring root. My wife uses it on her stock MT4G.
However, I'm not sure if it will work on a completely new phone...it might though. You'd obviously have to transfer the backed up information from the old phone's sd to the new one.
why not just root? you can always unroot afterwards.
probably the best two apps for a new phone - SuperOneclick following Rom manger
DR-EVIL23 said:
probably the best two apps for a new phone - SuperOneclick following Rom manger
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How remarkably off topic...thank you. Lol
Edit: Just realized you were likely responding to the title of the thread, not the actual question in the OP. I retract my remark, even though I was just playing around.
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best program for getting a new android phone would have to be superuser imo
I bought a Desire Z about two weeks before the 1.72.405.2 OTA update came along, and I allowed it to update (Yeah I know, this was after all my first Android device).
Anyway, lately my phones been running slowly and apps force closing, so I've decided to downgrade it and root it (psneuter method), and try some different ROM's.
What I was wondering is, what would be the best way without root, to backup as much of my data as possible, apps, sms, files, and also if possible a backup that I can use in case I scew it up, so I can get it back to the way it is now.
I have a copy of:-
RUU_Vision_HTC_WWE_1.34.405.5_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155556_signed
which I believe is the stock ROM for this device, but as far as I know if it goes wrong I'll be unable to flash this as the update won't allow me to flash an earlier version..
Would I be able to mount and then backup the whole phone using adb or any other method.
I've been reading about it for a while now, and while I have lots of bits of information, I've been unable to find a good solution.
Thanks,
...John...
j0hn0n1 said:
I bought a Desire Z about two weeks before the 1.72.405.2 OTA update came along, and I allowed it to update (Yeah I know, this was after all my first Android device).
What I was wondering is, what would be the best way without root, to backup as much of my data as possible, apps, sms, files, and also if possible a backup that I can use in case I scew it up, so I can get it back to the way it is now.
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Without root, a good app to backup your other apps is astro file manager, its available free from the market, you just have to hit menu, tools and it'll back up all the apps on your sd card, in terms of files, just make sure their all on your sd card and they'll be fine
Not sure how to back up SmS but i know their are apps out their, a point you may have forgotten is to make sure you back up your contacts as they all get wiped and I made this mistake, the easiest way to do that is to make sure your contacts sync up with your google account so after rooting, you can just sync them back,
Hope i helped!
Use google to remember what apps you've downloaded from market. Once associated, when you flash a new rom, google will automatically redownload all your associated apps. For sms, i suggest you download GoSMS and use their internal backup feature. It will save to sd and be visible to your stock sms app as well on restore.
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Ya but too many times google starts restoring apps that I uninstalled months ago. Great idea but bad implementation imo.
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Sorry I haven't replied, was in work all day yesterday.
I have Astro File Manager, but I hadn't even considered it, thanks. I have my contacts sync'd with Google, so it seems that as long as I backup my files and sms everything else should be done automatically anyway.
Go SMS seems worth getting anyway, as the bog standard Android messages app is seriously dull. I'll give it a try.
I had wondered about Google Market restoring apps, but I thought it would only reinstall apps that were installed at the last sync.
If you install an app and it screws up your phone, and do a factory reset then Google will just reinstall the app that caused all the problems in the first place.
Definitely a good idea, but needs more work.
Anyway, thanks for all the info, I'll give it try tonight, when I get back from work.
...John...
I find SMS Backup & Restore to be the best app for this purpose and I wouldn't recommend the backup feature from the market, as you said it is likely to give problems.
Without root though, the backup choices are somewhat limited for apps and such.
I've been using Super Manager by gpc. It works pretty good, plus offers a ton of other features that can be used with or without root.
I've backed up what I could, although it's typical that as soon as it's all gone I realised things that I should have wrote down (I had been using the wallet/pocket app and although I backed up all my apps, I'm guesing it won't have backed up any of the passwords, logins, bank details, etc).
Anyway, I've downgraded and successfully rooted my phone (through gfree), I have CID: 11111111 and S-Off, but I haven't installed and ROM's yet as I read somewhere that you are supposed to wipe everything between ROM's, am I wiping the Davlik cache or doing a factory reset (I mean won't the factory reset just reset my stock ROM back to it's original condition).
I'm also wondering about finding custom ROMs, on my dell streak I had installed ROM Manager and could get a list of any that were available.
I first installed ROM Manager and used it to flash recovery, but this time I've installed CWM first, so would it be safe to install ROM Manager now, will it want to flash a recovery over the one I have already.
Or is it not advisable to use ROM Manager, as I have previously heard of a few problems it may cause.
Thanks ...John...
Rom manager shouldn't give any problems, but for custom roms it's best to take a look at the development forum. If you don't like that you can still use the list in rommanager, it might be just me who prefers downloading roms to my pc first.
But before you install any of them I recommend you make a nandroid backup from recovery just to be safe.
I think the issues were that some people, not all, found problems flashing some of the gingerbread roms via Rom manager. Better to save the Rom to SD and then flash it via CWM.
Right I've done a nandroid backup, and I've saved one to another mSD card which I can keep somewhere just in case (probably a bit over cautious, but...).
I thought that by saving apps to an sd card, they would run from the sd when I restarted my phone, even the ones that I had moved previously with the application manager in settings are not seen.
Still reinstalling the ones I want isn't really that bad.
Seriously, somebody needs to sort out the Markets app backups feature, when I was setting up the phone at first, I specifically chose to not automatically sync with Google and that I would do it manually when needed. Then I went in to the market to get a file manager and the download failed, it was only when I looked at what was going on I realised it was already downloading and reinstalling 96 apps. I looked around for a 'cancel all' option and there isn't any, so I had to cancel them all one by one and then uninstall the ones that had managed to install.
A simple checklist to select the apps you want would be great, oh, and a cancel all button would be a bonus.
Anyway, things are not as much fun when they're too easy.
Thanks ...John...