I am completely new to rooting and, if I understand correctly, the process of rooting (specifically unlocking the boatloader) will wipe your apps and their data. What can I do, pre-root, to backup my app data? I have Google's backup on, but from what I can tell, it really doesn't do jack sneezle (I assume that's because Google doesn't require app developers to make their app data (settings, login, etc.) compliant with their backup system). Reinstalling the apps isn't a huge deal to me, but having to recustomize ALL my settings and login to everything again is a pain in the keister. Any suggestions? Is there any apps out there to facilitate this transition period? Let me know what you guys think. If possible, give multiple methods, and let me know which one you find the best. Thanks!
I don't know of any way to back up your apps and data without being rooted. I think you are just going to have to bite the bullet. You need root access before you can even access the folders that app data is stored in.
you havent unlocked the bootloader yet..
so probably no way to back up the data beforehand..
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you can use adb backup & restore commands to back up and restore, but im not sure if its possible to just restore the app data without overwrite the whole device..
Try Helium. Requires a PC.
There aren't many methods to backup on an unrooted phone.
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Nexus 7, rooted, back to OEM/Stock~~factory, prior to rooting, read all available documentation regarding backups, said everything was on Google "cloud".....now that I am OEM w/root, how do I get back everything I setup installed and configured for the last week?
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Nexus 7, rooted, back to OEM/Stock~~factory, prior to rooting, read all available documentation regarding backups, said everything was on Google "cloud".....now that I am OEM w/root, how do I get back everything I setup installed and configured for the last week?
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If I understand the process correctly - it saves settings regarding Google services. That is apps such as Currents, Play Store, Google Now, etc. It shouldn't backup things such as random app data (IE Angry Birds) - you'll need to use a third party app such as Titanium Backup or App2Zip. For a full system image of apps/settings you'll have to do a nandroid backup through a recovery program (IE ClockworkMod).
Hope that cleared things up a bit. You're gonna be SOL for most of your stuff for this time, but for next time just make sure to double and triple check everything because backups make the going-to-stock process so much nice
Mine did it as soon as I signed into my account on setup.
Some apps had to be installed again from My apps at Google play but the data also was there after they installed. I had some list and such from a notepad app and they were replaced with the app.
So then, the preferred application-procedure is?
James-NC said:
Mine did it as soon as I signed into my account on setup.
Some apps had to be installed again from My apps at Google play but the data also was there after they installed. I had some list and such from a notepad app and they were replaced with the app.
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So then, to be clear, to have a similar procedure, like iPad/iPhone syncing, there is nothing "built in", and 3rd party applications need to be purchased or obtained free.......so what is the clear winner (easiest, best, most preferred)?
So which process?
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So then, to be clear, to have a similar procedure, like iPad/iPhone syncing, there is nothing "built in", and 3rd party applications need to be purchased or obtained free.......so what is the clear winner (easiest, best, most preferred)?
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Maybe not clear. I already did my N7 and was lost. Wife has hers all tweaked, wants me to root. I just want to restore exactly like an iPad so nothing is lost. Preferred method being search foe. Would like advice.
guruuno said:
So then, to be clear, to have a similar procedure, like iPad/iPhone syncing, there is nothing "built in", and 3rd party applications need to be purchased or obtained free.......so what is the clear winner (easiest, best, most preferred)?
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Google Play can redownload the apps you previously got from them. It will also sync certain (but probably not all) settings, wifi passwords, etc. However, the process of downloading takes around 30-60m and usually app data is not part of this sync.
This, I prefer to use titanium backup to backup all user apps and data (as a rule of thumb, you generally don't want to do the same for system apps/data). The backup is stored on your sd card (so, for example, after wiping data you can restore all your apps within around 15m, asynchronously) and you can also have it backed up to the cloud. Tit backup requires root and the pro version costs around $7.
You can use it to backup system data (your settings and all that) but this is a bad idea when you use custom roms. I usually restore my apps and set the rest manually, the whole process takes around 20m.
I don't know how well itunes backs up app data, so I can't answer the comparison question.
Unlocking is what wipes the data, not rooting. You are already past the point of no return as the restore info you get back from google does not deal with a lot of app data. You could have before unlocking, done a process which would have saved it, but it is not a normal process and certainly not automatic.
you are past that however already.
Now you are rooted, you can use Titanium Backup to do a real backup and you can also do a nandroid backup using Recovery so you don't have to deal with this in the future.
HOWEVER, just doing those backups doesn't guarrantee you can access them if your device is lost/stolen or damage beyond repair. So you need to come up with a method to copy those backup files occasionally to workstation off from time to time so, you have something to restore.
Then if you have to setup a new device, you can unlock, root, load TB, copy the backup files to the device and then restore the system back to where it was when you did the last backup.
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Maybe not clear. I already did my N7 and was lost. Wife has hers all tweaked, wants me to root. I just want to restore exactly like an iPad so nothing is lost. Preferred method being search foe. Would like advice.
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You need root (and an app like Titanium Backup) to back up your app data, and you need to have an unlocked bootloader to root. If you didn't already unlock the bootloader on the Nexus 7, then there's nothing you can do to back up all your app data because unlocking the bootloader essentially resets the device. Without a backup program, the most you can do is sync your device with Google Play and have it reinstall your missing apps after you wipe your device (but it won't restore your app data).
But......
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You need root (and an app like Titanium Backup) to back up your app data, and you need to have an unlocked bootloader to root. If you didn't already unlock the bootloader on the Nexus 7, then there's nothing you can do to back up all your app data because unlocking the bootloader essentially resets the device. Without a backup program, the most you can do is sync your device with Google Play and have it reinstall your missing apps after you wipe your device (but it won't restore your app data).
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But I did "root", and I did lose all my data, like it was OEM out of the box, but rooted....
Unlocking? Why would I 'unlock'? If I only want to use USB memory stick isn't rooting all I want?
Therefore, I'd get which program to root only to preserve everything.
The confusing part is "You need root (and an app like Titanium Backup) to back up your app data"
How can I have Titanium if I don't root, and if I root, I lose everything?
(or did I maybe also unlock mine..... I'm really confused, all I want is a 1-2-3 root app to install the Stick Mount. Period)
Thanks again for the replies, I'm hopefully getting this Android stuff
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Unlocking? Why would I 'unlock'? If I only want to use USB memory stick isn't rooting all I want?
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You need to unlock in order to root (though you can relock it after if you want, I wouldn't recommend it in case you need to do so again) and flash stuff.
If you didn't relock it from earlier (i.e. if you still have that "unlocked" symbol on boot), you'll be able to root again just by flashing the superuser program.
guruuno said:
The confusing part is "You need root (and an app like Titanium Backup) to back up your app data"
How can I have Titanium if I don't root, and if I root unlock, I lose everything?
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Wug's root toolkit has a backup/restore option.
In general, however, the answer is yes. You are not able to (at least without expertise) backup data from prior to your first unlock. That's why it's recommended to unlock your device asap if you decide to do so.
(The OEMs wipe everything upon unlock for security reasons - the only way to get around this is to use an exploit rather than the "fastboot oem unlock" command, but the discovery of such exploits is unpredictable.)
OK, here I go
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You need to unlock in order to root (though you can relock it after if you want, I wouldn't recommend it in case you need to do so again) and flash stuff.
If you didn't relock it from earlier (i.e. if you still have that "unlocked" symbol on boot), you'll be able to root again just by flashing the superuser program.
Wug's root toolkit has a backup/restore option.
In general, however, the answer is yes. You are not able to (at least without expertise) backup data from prior to your first unlock. That's why it's recommended to unlock your device asap if you decide to do so.
(The OEMs wipe everything upon unlock for security reasons - the only way to get around this is to use an exploit rather than the "fastboot oem unlock" command, but the discovery of such exploits is unpredictable.)
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Thanks for the attention to detail, I appreciate it.
I just install cm10 and I noticed that the settings such as wifi passwords etc have not been restored. Any ideas on how to restore them? I'd post on their thread but they don't have one for the N7 and I still don't have the privileges.
Hey guys, I'm trying to root my Desire HD with AAHK.
The problem is, it says that I'll need to downgrade and downgrading will wipe my data.
Now I don't have a problem with downgrading, but I'd like to keep my data.
So I was wondering WHAT data will it wipe and how do I back-up?
I have titanium back-up installed but it needs root access, so that won't work.
I've copied all the files on my SD card to my laptop, to keep my images and stuff...
Is there a way to back-up other important files (if there are any?) before rooting?
Thanks in advance!
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Hey guys, I'm trying to root my Desire HD with AAHK.
The problem is, it says that I'll need to downgrade and downgrading will wipe my data.
Now I don't have a problem with downgrading, but I'd like to keep my data.
So I was wondering WHAT data will it wipe and how do I back-up?
I have titanium back-up installed but it needs root access, so that won't work.
I've copied all the files on my SD card to my laptop, to keep my images and stuff...
Is there a way to back-up other important files (if there are any?) before rooting?
Thanks in advance!
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Consider purchasing Titanium Backup. It just started letting you backup app data WITHOUT root using ADB. See: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-adb-backups-without-root-other-improvements/. It will also very much come in handy once you are rooted.
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Consider purchasing Titanium Backup. It just started letting you backup app data WITHOUT root using ADB. See: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-adb-backups-without-root-other-improvements/. It will also very much come in handy once you are rooted.
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Only works for 4.0+
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Only works for 4.0+
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Ooh, good to know. I hadn't tried it; I just saw the bit about ADB backup.
Files and documents are stored on your SD, just copy that out.
What you do lose are all your apps, app data, accounts, desktop layout, etc. If you use a custom launcher (go, adw), then chances are the app supports backup. It's like having a factory reset, or like when you first got your phone. Nothing on it. the SD card isn't effected though. There's a small chance rooting will corrupt your SD card. You can always format it to make it working again, but you loose all your data.
I use a program called Android Commander. Allowing inter alia copies of APK's. So, I have created a folder on my SD with programs and then use a clean reinstall of the rom, added applications. So just lose data and accounts.
App manager pro, download it from play store, and backup all your app's
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Try to use MyBackup Pro or Safe Backup. But anyway, you should know, data loss while rooting is inevitably. For example, your settings for email accounts, desktop layout and other data, stored inside system memory will be lost. Using semi-backup application (without root) will save for you all important information (SMS, Calls log, Contacts and Applications). I think there's no problem with downgrading and losing system data. After rooting process and installing a custom rom you will be able to restore your settings by manual assignment - this is very easy
Hey guys,
I'm running into a couple issues with my phone so I want to factory reset. However, I'm stuck in this tricky situation where I was able to import my data from the S7, but I cannot re-back it up under the S8.
I'd been using Helium ever since I got my S7, since it uses the built-in backup methods without requiring root. However, under Nougat it doesn't seem to work as well. You cannot restore backups that include the .apk anymore, you have to install the apps first then restore their data.
Now I'm getting a bunch of apps where I restored the data from an older version where it was still possible, updated the apps from the Play store, and now I can't back them up again! I was testing this out with the actual adb desktop backup commands... those apps just give me a blank backup file. Examples are Gboard (formerly Google Keyboard) - you always used to be able to back that up with adb, and it still shows up in the list (e.g. they didn't do allow backups=false), but it doesn't work. Helium gives an error, adb just gives me a 1KB file with nothing in it. There's clearly data there...
What gets me is that Helium uses the *official* built-in Android desktop backup protocol. It's like Google started killing that off without telling anyone, and without even having the phone return a message saying the app can't be backed up. It appears to work, but you get a blank file.
I used to be able to just use a custom recovery to make a nandroid backup, so I could easily factory reset and recover if that didn't fix the problem. But since there's no root method for the Snapdragon S8, and AFAIK the stock bootloader can't do backups like that, I'm out of options.
Does anyone use any other methods? I know Google/Android *supposedly* backup your appdata for you, but it never works - every time I try that it reinstalls the app with empty data and I have to set everything up all over again.
I would suggest using Samsung's own Cloud to back up your data. Works surprisingly well, it backs up pretty much everything, even home screen layout. It even backs up apps like OGYoutube or anything 3rd party. Looks like it backs up the entire apk and restores them with your data and logins. Worked well for me when I flashed G950U1 firmware
EDIT: Also if you go this route and factory reset your device for whatever reason, upon initial set up skip restoring apps from Google since Samsung's cloud will restore those apps back. I noticed that if you use both restore methods they will clash and your Samsung apps will be overwritten and your data will be wiped. Don't know if anyone else noticed this, just from my experience.
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I would suggest using Samsung's own Cloud to back up your data. Works surprisingly well, it backs up pretty much everything, even home screen layout. It even backs up apps like OGYoutube or anything 3rd party. Looks like it backs up the entire apk and restores them with your data and logins. Worked well for me when I flashed G950U1 firmware
EDIT: Also if you go this route and factory reset your device for whatever reason, upon initial set up skip restoring apps from Google since Samsung's cloud will restore those apps back. I noticed that if you use both restore methods they will clash and your Samsung apps will be overwritten and your data will be wiped. Don't know if anyone else noticed this, just from my experience.
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Wait, what? How do I do that? I tried the Smart Switch Windows software (not the one that lets you transfer between phones, there's a PC version too), and it only backed up the .apk, not the data.
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Wait, what? How do I do that? I tried the Smart Switch Windows software (not the one that lets you transfer between phones, there's a PC version too), and it only backed up the .apk, not the data.
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Just go under Settings>Cloud and Accounts>Samsung Cloud and enable backup, check it out in there. It pretty much gives you details of what it'll back up for you.
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EDIT: Also if you go this route and factory reset your device for whatever reason, upon initial set up skip restoring apps from Google since Samsung's cloud will restore those apps back. I noticed that if you use both restore methods they will clash and your Samsung apps will be overwritten and your data will be wiped. Don't know if anyone else noticed this, just from my experience.
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Did you have to turn off any settings on Google backup before resetting phone ?
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I would suggest using Samsung's own Cloud to back up your data. Works surprisingly well, it backs up pretty much everything, even home screen layout. It even backs up apps like OGYoutube or anything 3rd party. Looks like it backs up the entire apk and restores them with your data and logins. Worked well for me when I flashed G950U1 firmware
EDIT: Also if you go this route and factory reset your device for whatever reason, upon initial set up skip restoring apps from Google since Samsung's cloud will restore those apps back. I noticed that if you use both restore methods they will clash and your Samsung apps will be overwritten and your data will be wiped. Don't know if anyone else noticed this, just from my experience.
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Looks like Samsung will terminate data back up after 11 Jan 2018 - must be a capacity issue.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS8/comments/7k2ihz/samsung_will_remove_app_data_backups_in_samsung/
I was wondering how you guys usually backup your phone when going from let's say stock to LineageOS? I was wondering this because I feel my way takes more time than it needs to and if there's a better method I'm glad to hear it.
I'll go first:
I backup first through Titanium backup which is a great app for restoring most data such as wifi passwords and app data for some apps. Secondly I'll make a backup using Helium because it backs up some apps that aren't compatible with TB's way of handling things such as Defenders III. Thirdly and most Important backup I make is through twrp in case I need to go back and get something I forgot or if "the **** hits the fan" on the new ROM.
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I was wondering how you guys usually backup your phone when going from let's say stock to LineageOS? I was wondering this because I feel my way takes more time than it needs to and if there's a better method I'm glad to hear it.
I'll go first:
I backup first through Titanium backup which is a great app for restoring most data such as wifi passwords and app data for some apps. Secondly I'll make a backup using Helium because it backs up some apps that aren't compatible with TB's way of handling things such as Defenders III. Thirdly and most Important backup I make is through twrp in case I need to go back and get something I forgot or if "the **** hits the fan" on the new ROM.
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use titanium backup pro or helium app
You might try to backup apps in titanium backup, secondly for photos and videos and all other stuff what I do is connect my phone to a PC and copy paste all folders displayed latter I can swap them pretty fast
I don't back up my apps. I don't have many apps installed so it doesn't really matter.
For data, I use adb.
Backup - adb pull /sdcard/
Restore - adb push <WHAT> /sdcard/<LOCATION>
I backup with TBU - never had any problems backing up or restoring.
But how do you get Helium to work for your Moto G4? I've tried several times/methods but it just doesn't work. I am rooted with InvictaOS and Helium gets stuck on checking SuperUser. When I cancel that out and try to connect via the computer it fails to recognize the G4, whether I'm on MTP or PTP.
The only reason I'm trying Helium is that I recently got a great deal on a Verizon E4 and want to play around with it. But since it's Verizon...no bootloader unlock. I'm going crazy trying to transfer my app data to the E4, which, ironically, is recognized by Helium.
I have never been a fan of iPhone, but they at least have a method to transfer app data to to a new phone, an area that Android is lacking. If i ever get another new phone that can't be rooted, I'm screwed if I want to keep my app data, such as from my Memo app, etc...
Sorry for rant/hi-jack.
Normally I'd use TWRP to create a full backup image but since I'm unrooted I'm not sure how to get this done.
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Like a lot of you, I have been putting off unlocking the bootloader on my Nexus because I didn't want to have to go through the hassle of backing up everything manually and restoring individual application data; logging back into apps; saving...
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Does this method work for our phones?
I'm on Android 12 on my S10+.
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Normálně bych použil TWRP k vytvoření úplné zálohy, ale protože nejsem rootnutý, nejsem si jistý, jak to udělat.
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Funguje tato metoda pro naše telefony?
Používám Android 12 na svém S10+.
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Hi, if you have a Samsung and you don't have root, I don't recommend backing up via ADB because Google doesn't support this anymore, it's more recommended to use Google One or on a Samsung you can use this guide which should also help you.
Don't use SmartSwitch.
First redundantly back up all critical data to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC.
Hand load everything; copy/paste, verify size and if readable. Any apps like Poweramp or ColorNote that allow for backup import/export do so. Organize your critical data; have a plan.
If you have a SD card it is your data drive; all critical data goes here including installable copies of all your apps. A full restore should be able to be done with the data on the SD card.
A clean load can last for years if you don't muck with the firmware ie upgrades/updates. Think it through and do it right the first time. If you do it right it won't need to be done again for years... that's what Android is capable of.
you can't create a full backup as you can't access the needed devices... the only thing you can backup is your sdcard,data and probably efs with system shell exploit