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Heated discussion on Engadget about Tab sales

http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/22/samsung-says-its-sold-600-000-galaxy-tabs-worldwide/
iFans are out in force having a tough time swallowing the truth of a most certain (in their eyes) "DOA" product. They are in disbelief! lol

ConceptVBS said:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/22/samsung-says-its-sold-600-000-galaxy-tabs-worldwide/
iFans are out in force having a tough time swallowing the truth of a most certain (in their eyes) "DOA" product. They are in disbelief! lol
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They just got a multitasking upgrade today, how is that DOA?

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They just got a multitasking upgrade today, how is that DOA?
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i believe the DOA they are talking about is the tab..

Yeah, I've been banging on that discussion all day.

^ I can see that.

Time will tell of course, but there's speculation here in the UK, that the carriers will begin to offer the iPad subsidized with a contract, and that by Xmas you'll be able to pick up an iPad for £200.
IMHO, I doubt that this will actually increase iPad sales much. The best selling iPads are the WiFi only models because it's simply too large to carry about for most users. The same is not true of the Tab.
I don't believe that the Tab will get anywhere close to the iPad total sales, due to the power of the Apple brand, but with products like the Advent Vega and Toshiba Folio, I think that Android tablets will do very well indeed, with the Tab occupying the "premium" space.
Regards,
Dave

Honestly, everyone looks with interest at my tab, then say, it cant be better than the iPad though surely.
I give them a 2 minute demo. No one has come back to me saying the iPad is better after my demo.
Only reason people would say the iPad is better, is because of the power of marketing (or if they really did require 10")

I don't know why we should waste time with Engadget readers (no offense ) Let them enjoy what they think/have. It's so obvious that Engadget is Steve's bud. How on earth a N8 12MP camera is not any better than the iP camera is beyond me.

I wonder how many people are going to be returning their tab after using it for a week and going, hmmm, this can't replace my phone, it surely can't replace my lt... why am I carrying this thing around again? - Ohh, that's right! Angry Birds!
Returning mine to T-Mobile this week.

dalethefarmer said:
I wonder how many people are going to be returning their tab after using it for a week and going, hmmm, this can't replace my phone, it surely can't replace my lt... why am I carrying this thing around again? - Ohh, that's right! Angry Birds!
Returning mine to T-Mobile this week.
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I don't understand why anyone ever thought this was going to replace their phone......does the argument that a netbook will replace your phone make any more sense? No.....
Personally I never looked at the tablet market as something that would replace any other device I have. Tablets, for me at least, are a WANT item and not a NEED item like my work laptop or my phone. I purchased the Tab for those times I'm on the go and want entertainment and games on something with a screen that's bigger than 4 inches (phone)
Now....Can the tab do almost everything my phone can do? Yes.....Are some tasks easier on the tab than on the phone? Yes.....But vice versa my phone can do some things MUCH better than my tab and for that reason it will never fully replace my phone...
I guess I'm just not buying anyone's "I bought it to replace so and so" argument.....no one out there is buying an ipad to replace an iphone or an ipod touch or a mac computer. They're simply adding to their arsenal of electronics which I'm all for

I do replace my N97 w the tab. There is a thing called bluetooth u know
To each of his own
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dalethefarmer said:
I wonder how many people are going to be returning their tab after using it for a week and going, hmmm, this can't replace my phone, it surely can't replace my lt... why am I carrying this thing around again? - Ohh, that's right! Angry Birds!
Returning mine to T-Mobile this week.
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I travel a fair amount, so this thing is ideal for those countless hours in airports, hotel restaurants, cabs, etc. Sure, it does everything my Galaxy S phone can, but it does it better, and it does it longer, while still being portable.
I also use the HELL out of it around the house. I'm no longer chained to my PC or laptop, I can and do use it comfortably all over the place. Reading, surfing, music, movies, and yes, even a little Angry Birds. Beats the hell out of a laptop on the loo, I might add.
I've even gotten good use out of it at work, and that doesn't count emails.
Long story short, this doesn't really replace anything, but it fills some rather large gaps quite nicely. Some you don't even realize exist.

The tab almost completely replaced my phone.
I use it 90% of my time (with a BT headset). The only time I take my phone instead of the tab is when I go out at night.
It also replaced my laptop almost completely .
I hardly touch the thing anymore.
The only time I touched my laptop last week was when I had to draft a long email. Other than that the tab does everything I need and does it well.

Croak said:
I also use the HELL out of it around the house. I'm no longer chained to my PC or laptop, I can and do use it comfortably all over the place. Reading, surfing, music, movies, and yes, even a little Angry Birds. Beats the hell out of a laptop on the loo, I might add.
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I couldn't agree with this more - my Tab follows me everywhere around the house, and is now my primary source of internet and multimedia when I'm not otherwise sat at my desk in front of a PC for work.
And yes, it makes web browsing whilst sitting on the throne far more comfortable!
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Dave

foxmeister said:
I couldn't agree with this more - my Tab follows me everywhere around the house, and is now my primary source of internet and multimedia when I'm not otherwise sat at my desk in front of a PC for work.
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Even in front of a PC the Tab is great for playing the sort of video that is work-related but doesn't require 100% attention.

kupuguy said:
Even in front of a PC the Tab is great for playing the sort of video that is work-related but doesn't require 100% attention.
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same thing too. my tab acts as a "second" screen. doing work on my mbp and browsing websites/watching movie on my tab.
the tab got me back to reading. ebooks ftw! had the ipad but its just too heavy to hold but my tab is perfectly sized. the only thing i miss on the ipad is the built-in dictionary on ibooks. on the tab i have to go online for dictionary..

clovis_ll said:
same thing too. my tab acts as a "second" screen. doing work on my mbp and browsing websites/watching movie on my tab.
the tab got me back to reading. ebooks ftw! had the ipad but its just too heavy to hold but my tab is perfectly sized. the only thing i miss on the ipad is the built-in dictionary on ibooks. on the tab i have to go online for dictionary..
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There's an app for that. And it multitasks too, you know.

Croak said:
There's an app for that. And it multitasks too, you know.
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true that!

clovis_ll said:
true that!
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Try Aldiko. Still goes out to the web for dictionary lookups, but it's pretty painless. And it's a great epub reader, my favorite by far.

Croak said:
Try Aldiko. Still goes out to the web for dictionary lookups, but it's pretty painless. And it's a great epub reader, my favorite by far.
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yep that's what i am using right now.

Xoom sixaxis apk

Does any body have the apk or have a link to it?

First off, it's against forum rules to ask for/post paid apps.
Secondly, can you seriously not do a Google search for it? It was rediculously easy to find.
Thirdly, PAY THE DEVELOPER THE $1.65!

raziruelas said:
Does any body have the apk or have a link to it?
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This makes me sad, just pay the developer rather than undermine his work. Developers are the reason we are continually able to do brand new exciting things with our Tablets and practices like this would encourage me to take my work elsewhere...
$1.65, you could go beg on a corner and make more than that in 5 minutes.

raziruelas said:
Does any body have the apk or have a link to it?
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Ugh! You are what's wrong with the Internet. Honestly, do you find it so hard to pay for something someone has worked hard to make?
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raziruelas said:
Does any body have the apk or have a link to it?
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First, go read the forum rules. I would say re-read them, but chances are they weren't read at all.
Second, Here is the link I found, it's in something called the Android Market...not too sure what that is, but it's $1.65.
Third, it's $1.65. I know, hella expensive. I wish the internet had this thing, it would let you search for things on the internet... Does anyone know where I can Google this idea of a website to search for things on the interwebs???

Its worth paying for dont go warez and support our devs! Btw I just got done playing altered beast with my ps3 remote on my Xoom via Gensoid rom ;D
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$1.65
its not $5 or $10, not even worth pirating at that price lol

lol, this guy.

so it works I take it?
i hadnt got around to downloading the tester app yet...

Lets have a whip round try an get him the pro version lol
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Lothaen said:
so it works I take it?
i hadnt got around to downloading the tester app yet...
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Indeed it works. It's an extremely easy setup to change the PS3 controller's MAC address to point to the Xoom. It works quite well, but I do not see much use for it really. There aren't many major games that I would use it on. Possibly the Zenonia series, but I've been done with them for awhile now since I beat them so many times.
Word of advice though. It's a good idea if you have a spare PS3 controller that you don't ever use. Reason being: This setup changes your controller's MAC address, and it will need to be re-synced with the PS3 through the USB cable if you ever want to use it there again. Just a useful heads up if you are a frequent PS3 gamer as myself.

i have a ps3 controller and no ps3
use it connected with USB HOST connection and with fpse for playing resident evil - was fairly impressed with that - but wireless connection would be better obviously

Xoom for College

Going off on my second year at the University of Cincinnati. Wanted to see if there were any other Xoom'ers here going off to college and what exactly they planned to used their Xooms for. If they are replacing their laptop all together or what. I know I am now going to dock my laptop in my apartment and carry my Xoom around campus.
Any other students here?

I used mine a lot for school. I just purchased a stylus from Ebay and downloaded Writepad from the Themes & Apps section to test out this semester. I use it for taking notes and recording lectures.

gqstatus0685 said:
I used mine a lot for school. I just purchased a stylus from Ebay and downloaded Writepad from the Themes & Apps section to test out this semester. I use it for taking notes and recording lectures.
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I found Write Pad to be kind of laggy. I use Maple Paint and I've heard Tab Notes works well.
Also, FlexT9 (from Nuance, the makers of Dragon Naturally Speaking) is a great 4 in one keyboard (tap, swipe, speak and handwrite) you can add to its dictionary...overall great app.

okantomi said:
I found Write Pad to be kind of laggy. I use Maple Paint and I've heard Tab Notes works well.
Also, FlexT9 (from Nuance, the makers of Dragon Naturally Speaking) is a great 4 in one keyboard (tap, swipe, speak and handwrite) you can add to its dictionary...overall great app.
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I will try those. WritePad is a little laggy but it's still in BETA.

I use writepad for taking notes but its a lil laggy
and i downloaded books in pdf to replace my textbooks
i'm still looking for an app if exist like to flyer.
Where i can highlight and add notes to a pdf file.
Maybe an app that can take a screenshot and be able to edit at the same time.

EL_G15 said:
I use writepad for taking notes but its a lil laggy
and i downloaded books in pdf to replace my textbooks
i'm still looking for an app if exist like to flyer.
Where i can highlight and add notes to a pdf file.
Maybe an app that can take a screenshot and be able to edit at the same time.
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WritePad is in the market now for .99. The lag is gone now that he added hardware acceleration.

gqstatus0685 said:
WritePad is in the market now for .99. The lag is gone now that he added hardware acceleration.
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Cool! I Will download it after work!
Thanks for the headsup

EL_G15 said:
Cool! I Will download it after work!
Thanks for the headsup
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Well, I'm not too impressed with any of them, using a stylus. Those things really need improvement. And writing with my finger just feels kind of funny...

I agree. It's like you're rubbing on a clitoris.
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I have been using mine at college since Feb. abd I love it. Last semester, I mainly just carried my laptop around to type all of my notes and used Evernote to sync them to my tab. I used thinking space for creating for brainstorming. I didn't want to hand write all of my notes because of how clunky it felt. Plus, there was no way I could keep up with my professors without typing my notes. I find that most of my classes that use websites for homework run well on my tab.
This semester I am going to try to leave my laptop in my dorm and just carry my tab around.
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gqstatus0685 said:
I agree. It's like your rubbing on a clitoris.
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.....dude what

okantomi said:
Well, I'm not too impressed with any of them, using a stylus. Those things really need improvement. And writing with my finger just feels kind of funny...
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Try an ostylus...haha pun from clitoral rubbing!....but seriously google ostylus they are the tits

gqstatus0685 said:
I agree. It's like you're rubbing on a clitoris.
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...Of what, a whale?

Psychokitty said:
...Of what, a whale?
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I was referring to writing with your finger on a big tablet.
I just didn't quote the guy before me.
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gqstatus0685 said:
I agree. It's like you're rubbing on a clitoris.
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*blinks*
Either way that sounds like a feature to me, not a bug.

I have given up on using my xoom for much practicality. This said, I am an engineering student, thus any computing needs I have can't be meet by an android tab.
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chbennett said:
I have given up on using my xoom for much practicality. This said, I am an engineering student, thus any computing needs I have can't be meet by an android tab.
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Still a ways to go for business users as well, unless you are using it for credit card swiping. It's good for transactions. Intuit has a pretty good little android app.

I do use my Zoom for work. I am using Quickoffice Pro with cloud computing to take notes at meetings. Sometimes I also use the bluetooth keyboard. This combination allows me to create, view, or edit any Word document. I also use it to check and answer all my google and exchange email. Through the VPN native app and a remote desktop app, I can connect to my office desktop to run work programs. It is a very functional business device.
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adevan said:
I do use my Zoom for work..... It is a very functional business device.
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I agree. If you learn what the Xoom and productivity apps are capable of, and realize what the Xoom is NOT capable of, it can be a very productive device.
The first thing you have to have is a computer (running XP is best) on the Internet 24/7. That doesn't appeal to some, but I've done it for years.
With a handful of select apps (or their equivelants), you can make your Xoom nearly (NEARLY) as productive as a laptop.
PhoneMyPC-
I view files and run programs on my desktop remotely using this. I even view a webcam with audio. It cannot download/upload.
DropBox-
Makes PhoneMyPC worth it. You can upload/download via DropBox, giving PhoneMyPC the one thing it lacks.
PrinterShare-
Prints anything at any time directly to my home or office printer, instantly. Will locate nearby wifi printers, too.
FTPCafe-
I have 4 websites and can manage them all from my Xoom now with this tool. Upload/download files, create folders, change permissions, etc. Great stuff. Increases my productivity 10 fold. Idownload html docs, make changes, and reupload them.
Documents to Go-
Microsoft editing suite emulator. Was really great, but since I bought it others have come out with better ones. A must have for pproductivity, however none of the apps seem to have the best of everything. You really need to research this one. Some won't replicate docs with the right margins, etc, while others (like mine) won't let Excel do equasions with sub-sheets. It can be frustrating, but there is a great thread around here on this topic pitting a few of the best against each other.
Then there are the usual smart phone Android apps, such as recorders, write pads, etc.
Prior to getting the Xoom, I used to lug around a bohemeth laptop. Now I have discovered the joy of lightwieght freedom by taking the fullest advantage of my home and office networks that Android apps have to offer. And they're always coming oput with better stuff!
Right now I'm typing on the Motorola BT keyboard and using a BT mini mouse with my Xoom in the dock, charging.
-My laptops are getting dusty. I've since yanked their hard drives and occassionally cable them to my tablet for anything I might need.
I will say this; there is definitely a learning curve associated with using the Xoom to try to replace your laptop. I've been learning how to do it since March, so if someone were to ask me, should I get Xoom or a laptop for school, I wouldn't tell them to get the tablet. But with practice, it CAN be done.
Android tablet apps are gearing towards productivity, though. I've already impressed my boss with AndCAD and some 3D model viewers, and using SolidWorks at work via my home network (Phone My PC) and then importing the files to my tablet (DropBox) and then loading them to a thumbdrive for him to give to the engineering dept.
But without having practiced that a lot, I could have looked like a bumbling fool in front of my boss.
-It's really like learning a whole new way to use a computer.
Note, all the apps I mentioned are pricey and you may want to do research before deciding on alternatives. Hope this helps.

They are pricey compared to many android apps (so many great free apps) but compared to PC software, they are super cheap. I just use my desktop and the Xoom. My life is so much easier now. I really wish I had something like this when I was in grad school.

Office suite pro 5 free on amazon today

Get it now before it's too late!

goodintentions said:
Get it now before it's too late!
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Yeah I just scooped it up myself. Lets see how this software is.....
Also Mods may want to move this to the App section.

Thanks for the heads up. Looks like a good app. Just skimmed it but notice you can edit any document straight away without having to hit another button to edit -nice. Opened a PDF but was really slow loading each page. loved the animated icons and menu strip looks professional and sleek.

Didnt know about amazon app store before. Stupid thing doesn't work in Canada though? Lame

cant download free apps in Vietnam. Anyone willing to attach a file?

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cant download free apps in Vietnam. Anyone willing to attach a file?
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Unfortunately, even though it was free on Amazon for a day, it's paid software... so you won't be able to get a copy here. I feel bad that people can't use the Amazon market internationally though... the free app is sometimes a good one.

I got my the other day Thanks

It's a great app. One really nice feature is that it recognizes password protected files. The Asus Polaris software doesn't.
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[Q] would you rather the lapdock or a tablet?

so i've had the lapdock for a while, great accessory for the atrix.
i've recently been wanting to get a tablet. so i figure if i get the tablet, then i really wouldn't have any use for the lapdock. i've been looking into getting a nook color or something that simple. i wouldn't use the tablet for much, just like i currently don't use the lapdock for much. just internet browsing, videos, and typing up document on occasion.
so, i ask you all, would you prefer a tablet... or the lapdock for our phones?
thanks, all.

Very good question. I guess it would depend on the person and situations they would need either device for. I ended up getting a tablet (ipad2). Is the lap dock smooth and lag free? Never used one.
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andrew.cambridge said:
Very good question. I guess it would depend on the person and situations they would need either device for. I ended up getting a tablet (ipad2). Is the lap dock smooth and lag free? Never used one.
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may I ask about your specific usage that made you get a tablet instead? or what made you get a tablet?

I have a Lapdock and a blackberry Playbook and both are awesome, but I use the Playbook more at home since it's easier to access than the Lapdock. But I use the Lapdock when I am not at home for doing work. So I personally use both. I actually wish I could use the Lapdock more. Lol
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Voelker45 said:
I have a Lapdock and a blackberry Playbook and both are awesome, but I use the Playbook more at home since it's easier to access than the Lapdock. But I use the Lapdock when I am not at home for doing work. So I personally use both. I actually wish I could use the Lapdock more. Lol
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how do you use it for work, if you don't mind my asking.

ifalldownalot said:
may I ask about your specific usage that made you get a tablet instead? or what made you get a tablet?
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I'm not going to have the Atrix for as long as I would have the iPad. Me and my wife use it everyday. Everything we would do on the laptop we do on the ipad, minus word documents and typing because its just silly typing papers on the iPad. So Netflix, web browsing, catching up on Conan, Amazon, just normal stuff. And depending on the tablet, it would see more software support/ be supported for longer.
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I'm not going to have the Atrix for as long as I would have the iPad. Me and my wife use it everyday. Everything we would do on the laptop we do on the ipad, minus word documents and typing because its just silly typing papers on the iPad. So Netflix, web browsing, catching up on Conan, Amazon, just normal stuff. And depending on the tablet, it would see more software support/ be supported for longer.
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Actually if you get one of those bluetooth keyboard cases, typing documents on an iPad is nice. Sold mine for Note Accessory money though
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Sinful Animosity said:
Actually if you get one of those bluetooth keyboard cases, typing documents on an iPad is nice. Sold mine for Note Accessory money though
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yep. I was planning on using the tablet (if I purchased one) with a bluetooth keyboard and using it that way.

ifalldownalot said:
how do you use it for work, if you don't mind my asking.
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I meant school work, surfing the web, documents, or work out on the go.
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Well, I do use my lapdock for "real" work. Various development in mainly C, some assembly, C# and C++.
Most is simply vpn'd back to the office. 80% of my actual work is text based development, and that I do with a terminal ssh'd home.
For the small amount of stuff that requires me to use a windoes system, I can RDE back in. Not great, but not nearly as bad as one might suspect.
Occasionally I actually do local coding. But in this case I am really just editing and using gcc as a syntax checker.
To be honest, the biggest issue I have is the STUPID KEYBOARD LAYOUT (I hope moto is reading). There was plenty of room to have a standard'iish layout.
If one does not expect to do a lot of typing though, I would think a "paddock" would be a good idea for Moto.

to be honest, I've got lapdock and I have a XOOM2 for a test.
Iwont chane my Lapdock to any talbet. why?
after mod I have a fully Ubuntu, so why I have to change? so, if you wanna to get fully useable OS than I recommend to you Lapdock. If you wanna to see how it works, please visit my youtube profile

Lapdock is way too slow for anything.
Maybe after the ICS update it might be worth a look, however I would go for a tablet with a stand such as the archos g9 and a bt keyboard for productivity.
The lapdock is a great piece of hardware that's simply no utilized well enough to be worth it.

I agree completely with alexsupreme. Lapdock is just too slow to be usable. Mine was new from AT&T in December and I bet I've used it all of 2 hours. My tablet on the other hand has many, many hours of use logged since Christmas.

$53 for the lapdock at the time sounded good, but in retrospect that was still more than it's worth.

rickwood said:
$53 for the lapdock at the time sounded good, but in retrospect that was still more than it's worth.
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Ouch! That's like an icey-hot cold pack: so cold, and yet it burns.
I bought an iconia a500, and it has almost completely displaced my laptop. Only serious typing, graphics editing are still done on my laptop (and the pr0ns work better when I don't have to hold the screen up). I was looking at getting a lapdock next time they were on sale, but your scathing analysis is probably correct.

Actually, the new webtop 3.0 shows quite a bit of promise.
Sure it's not touch operational but you get a smooth speedy interface and access to tablet apps and browser.
The lapdock might actually be useful, especially with the variety of office apps and nice tablet games and emulators that might just be more playable with a keyboard and a mouse