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i want to order a kindle fire but i am not sure if it will work here in the uk as it is not for me but for a family member the person would just use the device as stock
Stock right now,the KF would not be a good choice for use in the UK. They would have a hard time accessing any media. Amazon app store and the Amazon cloud would not work.
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krelvinaz said:
Stock right now,the KF would not be a good choice for use in the UK. They would have a hard time accessing any media. Amazon app store and the Amazon cloud would not work.
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Right, in the UK you'd be unable to access the media stores. Too much conflict in copyright stuff between here and there.
I believe I heard the Kindle would burst into flames once it crossed US borders...
I'm quite sure the Kindle would work perfectly fine elsewhere.
I've been having a blast with it for over a week and haven't touched a single amazon based feature, which I believe would be the only place you'd have issues.
Thelgow said:
I believe I heard the Kindle would burst into flames once it crossed US borders...
I'm quite sure the Kindle would work perfectly fine elsewhere.
I've been having a blast with it for over a week and haven't touched a single amazon based feature, which I believe would be the only place you'd have issues.
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Yeah, if you had media to fill it yourself and could use your cloud account for music in the UK (don't see why you couldn't) then yeah that would work. But a lot are likely buying it due to them already buying into Amazon services. If his friend was going to hack it, that's be one thing, but stock currently I'm not sure it's the best choice outside the US as none of the Amazon features work.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure you could find uses for it, I just think that your tablet would be a bit more crippled stock without Amazon services than other possible choices, at least currently. So I'll say it honestly depends on what your friend would get out of it.
I'm using one here in Brazil, so I guess you would have the same experience I have.
All Amazon stuff are useless, except Kindle for books (the same Android app you install in any device). You even can't install other Apps because Amazon App Store blocks everything outside US (even free apps).
The only useful thing you can do to a Fire outside the US is to install third-party apps and root your device to make it like any other Android device. And I loved it for that: a cheap Android tablet, open, unblocked, and easy to hack. Everything I wanted.
The reality is that you'll be buying an Android tablet, not a Kindle as it is in America.
I got the amazon apps to work outside the us using us address and test card.I have rooted and installed aneroid market aswell.Just waiting for touch recovery and then the fun will start.
thanks for the info i will just buy the normal transformer or a ipad
it is possibile to have Kindle Fire working fully outside US using for example unblock-us.
With fully i mean, cloud, streaming content (audio, video, books, etc), amazon app store, etc.
therethere said:
it is possibile to have Kindle Fire working fully outside US using for example unblock-us.
With fully i mean, cloud, streaming content (audio, video, books, etc), amazon app store, etc.
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Yes, i can confirm. Using unblock-us is the solution, i use it in Germany and it works fine.
Hey all, just wondering what the Fire experience is like in Canada? I just ordered one today, and having second thoughts after reading that Canadians aren't able to get through the registration phase on the device.
All I want is something that I can surf with, run apps/games that I install myself, and music/video streamed over wifi.
So, did I make a mistake, or what? I'm sure at some point soon there will be a custom Android ROM and everything will work then, but am concerned that the stock ROM won't be useful for me.
Thanks!
I have a kindle fire and I'm in Canada as well. I had no problems registering any US only kindle devices in Canada. I even got Prime to work, but I'm using a DNS re-routing service called Unblock US. You can install any apps that you like, however I couldn't install any apps from the amazon app store as it said that it was not available in my area. It must be because I didn't have a US credit card as my 1 purchase 1 click payment method. I installed Google's market and sideload everything that isn't there (facebook, twitter, etc). I'm using it to listen to Pandora and Netflix US in Toronto and I'm using Go Launcher EX. It's great! The kindle is a great device for Canadians, assuming that you're a bit technically savvy and you're willing to root the device. As Amazon released the source code for their port and ICS is also open source, it's only a matter of time until ICS is ported to Kindle Fire. You didn't make a mistake. I'm sure that you'll enjoy the device.
Thanks! I hadn't seen the Europe or Australia threads when I posted mine. Thanks for the confirmation though!
All,
I am from India and seriously considering buying KF.
Only issue is that I am doubtful as to how much of the device's capability would I be able to utilize being outside US.
Also, Would I be able to purchase apps through KF?
What about books and magazines?
Would love to hear from people outside US who have bought KF.
Thanks!
You should adjust your title to ask about whether you should buy it as you live outside the US.
Your thread is right next to another thread with the EXACT same title and about something completely different.
Thanks a lot for the suggestion. Edited the title. Hoping to get a better response this time
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Using a Kindle outside of the US is not a problem if you are happy to do a little work.
It is possible to buy apps and watch moves via Amazon prime using a vpn.
It is also relatively easy to side load apps from other sources by literally searching for the apk file and then download and install them directly to the Kindle.
Again it is not too difficult to root the device and install a different launcher and the full Android Market, you will lose the ability to stream from Amazon prime but to be honest you won’t be losing much.
Ive gone through all the above and am now running the CM7 Rom which again completely changes the device to a fully unlocked working Android tablet which is not pad for 200 dollars.
The only downside I have found is nothing to do with geological location, for me a tablet this size is just too small.
duquesa said:
Using a Kindle outside of the US is not a problem if you are happy to do a little work.
It is possible to buy apps and watch moves via Amazon prime using a vpn.
It is also relatively easy to side load apps from other sources by literally searching for the apk file and then download and install them directly to the Kindle.
Again it is not too difficult to root the device and install a different launcher and the full Android Market, you will lose the ability to stream from Amazon prime but to be honest you won’t be losing much.
Ive gone through all the above and am now running the CM7 Rom which again completely changes the device to a fully unlocked working Android tablet which is not pad for 200 dollars.
The only downside I have found is nothing to do with geological location, for me a tablet this size is just too small.
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What he said. It's still a great device to use outside the U.S. If you don't plan on messing with it (rooting, installing another launcher or CM7/9) and want to keep it on stock like its meant to be used, then don't buy it.
i'm using kindle fire on europe (portugal), and with the stock rom.
I can watch movies on prime, listen to music, buy books, install apps (free on amazon store and sideloaded the other ones).
So i will keep stock room, cause i can do everything.
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i'm using kindle fire on europe (portugal), and with the stock rom.
I can watch movies on prime, listen to music, buy books, install apps (free on amazon store and sideloaded the other ones).
So i will keep stock room, cause i can do everything.
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Same here from germany, it works fine!
well am also in India and just ordered mine. will get it in 10 days. I already have amazon account with fake US address and some 200 apps collected by me. Also I plan to root it and use some other launcher and maybe install cm7 too. I have no intention of watching videos on Amazon prime and only want to use to read a few ebooks, play games and movie which I can load on the storage. At the price and for the quality it serves this purpose great in my opinion. Depending on your needs this might vary.
you can do that with the stock room.
i mean, install apps (the free ones at amazon app store) or install from unknown sources. or sideload them.
kindle fire outside us
I am living in germany. Yes, small money for a great tablet once its rooted and you side loaded whatever you are interested it. Without routing it, its a crippled and restricted amazon content using device only.
But rooting it its really easy, if you are able to read and understand a little bit.
I now can watch movies, listen music, read colored ebooks or any pdf file and play games like nova2 or other stuff. the tablet runs smooth and imho its the best bang for the buck available on the market.
I am not interested in amazon content a lot, but i can buy books or videos there if i really want to or use the amazon services while being temporarily "unrooted".
I didnt made it possible to view streamed videos and using the cloud, but to be honest, i dont like the idea to put personal data on a public server or show people what i like to read and view, i am happy to be private. I am using my pc as a streaming server or just download some videos into the storage every now and then. Its good enough for 5-6 videos plus a ****load of books and music.
But look around.. there is so much other content availabe on the internet, you will not get bored in 10 years, so who really needs amazon?
I really prefer to sideload anything via wifi or usb cable which works great and isnt that difficult. I have a lot of fun and for sure I saved a lot of money not buying an expensive high end tablet.
The kindle fire just dont have gps, vibrator, camera, microfon and bluetooth. If you really want that dont buy the kindle fire.
I personally have a small mobile phone just for that so i dont need to use a tablet as a phone and i also have a highend digital camera so wtf why i need a camera on my tablet ? (google for wifi tethering, works great). They are not good anyway even on the most expensive tablets on the market compared to a real one.
But i am pretty sure someone will find a solution for that somehow.
I have it and I love it. I live in Bosnia and have no problems with it. Great little thing for a good price.
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I am living in germany. Yes, small money for a great tablet once its rooted and you side loaded whatever you are interested it. Without routing it, its a crippled and restricted amazon content using device only.
But rooting it its really easy, if you are able to read and understand a little bit.
I now can watch movies, listen music, read colored ebooks or any pdf file and play games like nova2 or other stuff. the tablet runs smooth and imho its the best bang for the buck available on the market.
I am not interested in amazon content a lot, but i can buy books or videos there if i really want to or use the amazon services while being temporarily "unrooted".
I didnt made it possible to view streamed videos and using the cloud, but to be honest, i dont like the idea to put personal data on a public server or show people what i like to read and view, i am happy to be private. I am using my pc as a streaming server or just download some videos into the storage every now and then. Its good enough for 5-6 videos plus a ****load of books and music.
But look around.. there is so much other content availabe on the internet, you will not get bored in 10 years, so who really needs amazon?
I really prefer to sideload anything via wifi or usb cable which works great and isnt that difficult. I have a lot of fun and for sure I saved a lot of money not buying an expensive high end tablet.
The kindle fire just dont have gps, vibrator, camera, microfon and bluetooth. If you really want that dont buy the kindle fire.
I personally have a small mobile phone just for that so i dont need to use a tablet as a phone and i also have a highend digital camera so wtf why i need a camera on my tablet ? (google for wifi tethering, works great). They are not good anyway even on the most expensive tablets on the market compared to a real one.
But i am pretty sure someone will find a solution for that somehow.
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But it isnt possible sideload without root?
I cant still play all the movies, music, etc i want with a unrooted kindle fire. And i really enjoy the curated amazon app store. If i need any other app i just download it on fire and install. or sideload.
So if i just want to play movies, listen music, read books watch docs, why i need to root my kindle?
@therethere. You do not need root to sideload. I upload my apks to dropbox and then download to Kindle. The only reason I might decide to root is to change lockscreen and perhaps use a different launcher.
I'd really love a thread in this forum with everything you need to know to run your Kindle Fire outside US without rooting
LilaLurch said:
Same here from germany, it works fine!
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How that? I can't get it to work. Is there a chance to do it without rooting?
I'd prefer to sideload what I need, but it doesn't work.
Any tips?
Thanx in Advnce..
Dirk
dmenker said:
How that? I can't get it to work. Is there a chance to do it without rooting?
I'd prefer to sideload what I need, but it doesn't work.
Any tips?
Thanx in Advnce..
Dirk
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If you cant follow the tipps here in this forum, try with watching this videos from here: http://www.kindlefirewire.com/2011/11/16/how-to-root-kindle-fire-video-tutorial/
Not necessary to root.
Use a usb cable to sideload android apps. Most apps work.
Usa account and credit card(sample) for free Amazon apps.
Vpn for streaming.
Go launcher makes Fire a "real"Android.
I couldn't be happier with mine. In barely a month since release, it's now overclockable, CM7 running near perfectly, and a touch recovery coming tonight.
Since I got mine at release, my grandparents are buying three as gifts, my Dad might get one and I'm getting one for my Mom for Christmas.
Kindle Fire is easily one of the best value tablets out there. It's freakin awesome.
it shouldn't matter if your in India or anywhere. get one.
Chiwaz said:
I'd really love a thread in this forum with everything you need to know to run your Kindle Fire outside US without rooting
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There aren't really a lot of steps:
-Just enable install from unknown sources in the Kindle settings
-Install a file manager from the browser: search for and download the .apk of any known android file manager
-Copy the desired apps via USB
-Install via file manager
What you can do with the Kindle outside the USA without rooting is:
-Browse the web
-Buy and read Kindle books
-Copy via USB and read documents (.DOC and PDF)
-Everything else that allows the apps installed by yourself
I just love my kindle(/s), even I'm not able to use unblock-us properly to see Prime videos.
I don't care about gps, camera or 3g (even with it, I'd never make another contract, tethering is enough for me). All things I already have on the phone.
I just miss bluetooth, because I'd like to use a keyboard with this device and that's the only way to plug one, so far.
- Reading pdf (for simple books I usually use the other kindle);
- Newspapers;
- RSS, web browsing;
- Listen some music, radio or watching some TVs when I'm cooking, shaving or taking a shower;
- And yes, play some games sometimes (Tetris is freaking me out );
All stuff I was already able to do with the phone, but way more enjoyable on a tablet, without concern about battery life, on a big and beautiful screen, and better speakers.
And finally, I love the fact I don't need to carry it in a bag or a nerdy cover. Just my freaking pocket.
I have to say, I am a new fan of this box. I started down this path by getting a new Samsung smart TV. I ended up putting this on a wall with no cable outlet, so I used it only as a non cable unit. I enjoyed Netflix, HBO Go, Amazon Prime, etc...but I was annoyed by the things that were missing. I got a Roku, and liked it, but still could only put on it what Roku wanted me to. Last week, I got my Fire TV, and thus far, I have successfully installed and or side loaded HBO Go, Max Go, Starz Play, Encore Play, Showtime Anytime, Xfinity Go, Firefox, Chrome, and the list continues to grow. For a tinkering kind of guy like me, this is perfect, far better than Roku, Apple TV, etc. If you are thinking about it, go for it!
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I have to say, I am a new fan of this box. I started down this path by getting a new Samsung smart TV. I ended up putting this on a wall with no cable outlet, so I used it only as a non cable unit. I enjoyed Netflix, HBO Go, Amazon Prime, etc...but I was annoyed by the things that were missing. I got a Roku, and liked it, but still could only put on it what Roku wanted me to. Last week, I got my Fire TV, and thus far, I have successfully installed and or side loaded HBO Go, Max Go, Starz Play, Encore Play, Showtime Anytime, Xfinity Go, Firefox, Chrome, and the list continues to grow. For a tinkering kind of guy like me, this is perfect, far better than Roku, Apple TV, etc. If you are thinking about it, go for it!
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Tempting, but
no spotify,
no google play store (so all the apps I have bought for my phone I cannot get on this box for free)
no root, so cant install apk easily
I am looking at THIS TRONSMART S89 - supposedly does 4k too... and is much faster than firetv. The only negative is you cant do Amazon Prime as amazon have blocked that for Android (surprise surprise!) In the UK Prime is using Silverlight.
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Tempting, but
no spotify,
no google play store (so all the apps I have bought for my phone I cannot get on this box for free)
no root, so cant install apk easily
I am looking at THIS TRONSMART S89 - supposedly does 4k too... and is much faster than firetv. The only negative is you cant do Amazon Prime as amazon have blocked that for Android (surprise surprise!) In the UK Prime is using Silverlight.
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Spotify is working, but does require a air mouse or keyboard for now.
Sideload, sideload, sideload.
Apks install as easy as pie "adb install xxxxx.apk"
Actually, any app you have on a rooted phone, you can send yourself the apk and sideload to the Fire TV (I use Root Explorer). As to whether they work or not...it is a try and see thing.
I'm really loving this device as well! I will say that it is really catered to those who have bought into the Amazon ecosystem (like me, who has prime and purchases all of my music from Amazon mp3 store... plus I have a slew of apps I've purchased from the Amazon app store over time). I have two of them now and was able to successfully sideload and run Amazon MP3 on one. I'm looking forward to future updates and expansions of the app store.
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I'm really loving this device as well! I will say that it is really catered to those who have bought into the Amazon ecosystem (like me, who has prime and purchases all of my music from Amazon mp3 store... plus I have a slew of apps I've purchased from the Amazon app store over time). I have two of them now and was able to successfully sideload and run Amazon MP3 on one. I'm looking forward to future updates and expansions of the app store.
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Exactly this. The Fire TV is fantastic for people like myself that are invested in the, as you called it, Amazon ecosystem. I'm looking forward to watching "The Sopranos" again once the old HBO content comes to Prime.
As for app selection, you can sideload most anything you'd like. There are orientation issues with some apps that are easily fixable.
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I have to say, I am a new fan of this box. I started down this path by getting a new Samsung smart TV. I ended up putting this on a wall with no cable outlet, so I used it only as a non cable unit. I enjoyed Netflix, HBO Go, Amazon Prime, etc...but I was annoyed by the things that were missing. I got a Roku, and liked it, but still could only put on it what Roku wanted me to. Last week, I got my Fire TV, and thus far, I have successfully installed and or side loaded HBO Go, Max Go, Starz Play, Encore Play, Showtime Anytime, Xfinity Go, Firefox, Chrome, and the list continues to grow. For a tinkering kind of guy like me, this is perfect, far better than Roku, Apple TV, etc. If you are thinking about it, go for it!
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Thats great to hear. I just bought a 2014 year Samsung 4K Smart TV. I have a Roku 3 and a Apple TV as we well. Neither has StarZ or MaxGO. I have Dish Network. Will Max GO and StarZ Play work on Fire TV? i.e. Is Dish listed as one of the options to log in? If yes, where do I get the apps for sideloading? Thanks for doing all this research.
I also have Dish. I get HBO Go but can not login to any of the others with my Dish account.
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Dish from what I can see only has login to HBO GO? I tried others but Dish is not listed?
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Are these questions or statements?
wastate2014 said:
I also have Dish. I get HBO Go but can not login to any of the others with my Dish account.
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I had trouble getting logged into HBO GO through my Comcast login too, but I eventually got it working. I think there are issues between the app and the various provider login systems.
fredphoesh said:
Tempting, but
no spotify,
no google play store (so all the apps I have bought for my phone I cannot get on this box for free)
no root, so cant install apk easily
I am looking at THIS TRONSMART S89 - supposedly does 4k too... and is much faster than firetv. The only negative is you cant do Amazon Prime as amazon have blocked that for Android (surprise surprise!) In the UK Prime is using Silverlight.
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I was a bout to say whaaat we got all of it then I realized this post is from May lol.
I think we had towelroot in May? or it was later anyway so much changed since may
Probably too little, too late, but then again, maybe not, but Amazon has finally released an android version of the Amazon Instant Video app:
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/09/09/amazon-prime-finally-comes-to-android-after-all-these-years/
However, no Chromecast support. Boo!
It does work. I've installed it on both my RAZR HD and my Nexus 7. However, you must also have the Amazon store app installed as well. If on a Nexus 7, then you MUST install the non-tablet version of the Amazon store app. Until I installed the non-tablet version, it would keep telling me I had to install it and then would redirect me to the Amazon store web page.