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first honeymoon with a windows device is not going well:(:confused:

Hello guys,
For the past few days I have been experiencing few annoying problem
1) My phone has slowed down considerably though i did not install any new software.
2) My Mails don't open with a just clicking rather I have to manually open the inbox
3) The battery drain is so huge that on a single charge my device just gives me 1 hrs of calling and 5-6 of standby.
4) HTC support says the current ROM update is not there as i have a no contract device. current ROM version is 1.48.831.0 dated 11/09/09
Any help would be greatly appreciated coz my first honeymoon with a windows device is not going well
P.S. - I have 7 mail accounts and secondly my EDGE is always on.

hey... well having edge on all the time is not helping at all with battery life... I am surprised you get as much.. try staying in gsm and switch to edge only if you really need to... also 7 mail accounts is also quite a lot and with them sending and receiving all the time, its normal to have some slow downs every now and then...
did you try any of the custom roms? most of them claim improved battery life

Interesting issues.
I leave my phone on 3G/HSDPA and I can get a full day (7a-12a) with heavy usage:
1) 24/7 connected: PUSH emails from exchange
2) Back and forth email convos
3) 1hr of calls
4) 1-2hrs of browsing
5) 1-2hrs of internet radio
6) 10-15min Gmaps GPS
7) Occasional youtube video/camera shot
In terms of your issues... lets try some things in order
1) Remove any SD card, see how it works.
2) Hard reset, get set back up, see how it works.
3) Flash a new rom since yours is old! (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477)
IMO, I would jump straight to 3, but up to you.

thanks a lot guys for your advice. but being a first time user I still have some apprehensions and hope u all under stand
1) What are custom roms and how do they help and most important thing do i have to pay for them.
2) I know hard resetting will kill all my data is there any way i can make a back-up on my memory card itself and then restore from it as was in nokia communicator
3) Is re flashing the rom similar to the software update done on nokia devices or something diffrent.
4) Mr. mazzarin u adviced me to get a new ROM but HTC support says that I cant so plz it would be very kind if you could elaborate
I'm sorry for being a pain but u know for a first time user how it feels if ur device jacks up.

bhumbro,
Your learning curve is HUGE . I suggest you take one step at a time.
First off read the Hints & Tips thread on here. There are a number of solutions in there that will make your device experience better.
Next is to familiarise yourself with our HD forums and glean as much information as possible so you understand what's going on. This is important, especially if you decide you want to try out custom roms. BTW you don't have to pay for these but all the ROM developers appreciate a donation as a thank you for their hard work.
Once you have read up a little do come back and we will do our best to sort out any problems you have with understanding certain concepts. Also try and get used to your device first, know what it can do, before jumping into changing roms.
To search on XDA use this to help you...http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:http://forum.xda-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all So if you search for "Backing up my data" , for example, you will find a load of info on this.
Hope this helps.
WB

bhumbro said:
thanks a lot guys for your advice. but being a first time user I still have some apprehensions and hope u all under stand
1) What are custom roms and how do they help and most important thing do i have to pay for them.
2) I know hard resetting will kill all my data is there any way i can make a back-up on my memory card itself and then restore from it as was in nokia communicator
3) Is re flashing the rom similar to the software update done on nokia devices or something diffrent.
4) Mr. mazzarin u adviced me to get a new ROM but HTC support says that I cant so plz it would be very kind if you could elaborate
I'm sorry for being a pain but u know for a first time user how it feels if ur device jacks up.
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1) Custom ROMs are modified versions of official HTC ROMs that may be tweaked for faster speed or have additional functions. They are free! But donations are welcome. Head over to the HD2 ROM Development forum and you'll see a bunch of choices.
2) I don't back up my data because my Exchange account takes care of 90% of what matters (and the rest is just entering my login data for facebook, youtube, etc.) I would recommend doing some searches like wacky.banana said. I think Microsoft MyPhone does something like this *BUT DON'T TAKE MY WORD ON THAT!*
3) Similar, yes.
4) Right. Officially, you cannot. However, if you go to that thread I linked in my original post, it walks you through the process of getting rid of that restriction. Again, like wacky.banana said, you have a decent learning curve ahead of you, but do a lot of reading over in the ROM Development forum, ask a lot of questions, and start flashing when and if you feel you are ready.

Battery starting to put off my HD2 love :/

Hello..I am an overall very excited HTC HD2 user but i am having huge battery problems which is why i am asking for your insights In general if phone is idle it can go as far as 35 hours straight without any charging.But when i start playing around with it, browse menus , look through settings,launch apps e.t.c the battery drains like mad..sometimes even 3% in 10 minutes..
i do not know what could be the cause of this in particular since listening to mp3, watching movies does not chalk down too much power,i can even say i was slightly happy in that area(consumption and quality wise)..
so far i have done the below..
-hard reseted
-got a brilliant new mmc (transcend 8gb class 6 FTW )
-flight mode only during nights
-bsb tweaks
-some of the tweaks mentioned in the registry tweak for battery thread (not mmc ones, read alot about data corruption risks)
-tested battery (output voltage and mah are fine and it only gets warm after 3 hours of constant ndrive use-which is normal)
-i never installed anywhere else besides phone memory(apps/games)
-virus free
-i have no data plan so 3g/hsdpa access is not a possibility(also deactivated all connections from NoData app)
-disabled all auto update app functions(weather,footprints, my location ,time e.t.c)
the only possible deal i can figure out its to blame is the radio rom..
As i said earlier i am very interested in hearing your thoughts,comments,suggestions on my issue..Thanks for hearing me out
specs
manila : 2.5.19211619
Rom : 1.66.482.1 (gr) - official
radio rom : 2.06.51.07

do you use msn live?

i have the SAME EXACT problem, i do NOT have any apps running, i always use cleanram, every apps always get terminated.
as soon as i TOUCH my phone, the battery drains, this battery is rediculous, i have BsB tweaks with powersaving, i dont beleive how you guys get a full day out of this crappy battery when mine doesnt last 10 hours with just texing/and web browsing. im on my third battery replacement, i conditioned my battery three times and STILL the same problem, i feel like braking this phone in half, im using my blackberry bold 9700 now which lasts me 3 days with FULL usage ALL day, my hd2 is about to see the hammer soon

try flashing it to another rom
I stepped from stock rom to artemis and I use my HD2 often but with the stock rom i didn't even came to the middle of the day but with that artemis rom i can get till next day morning without charging plus it's very stable and i almost never do a soft reset and i use this artemis rom about a month now and i didn't even do a hard reset after flashing
sorry for my english hope you understand me

My HD2 will last 2 days constant usage. This includes web surfing and emails being pulled down all day via exchange.
The battery goes down quick to about 30% and will stay around there for ages.

Baker0 said:
do you use msn live?
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No sir...and when i do i shut it down via resco task manager.. :/
Finezt said:
try flashing it to another rom
I stepped from stock rom to artemis and I use my HD2 often but with the stock rom i didn't even came to the middle of the day but with that artemis rom i can get till next day morning without charging plus it's very stable and i almost never do a soft reset and i use this artemis rom about a month now and i didn't even do a hard reset after flashing
sorry for my english hope you understand me
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I hear good things about artemis as well but i am afraid i am not up to the flashing challenge..too much of a chicken to play russian rulette worth 680 euros :3 (in case i break something)

just for a test select sign in with a different account so it wipes your details amd reset, use your phone normally and dont use live see how that gets on.
I had my phone running for 2 - 3 days of medium use. as soon as i signed up for live it was lasting less that a day even if i used task manager. I then wiped my details then it was back to normal again.

chris2busy said:
No sir...and when i do i shut it down via resco task manager.. :/
I hear good things about artemis as well but i am afraid i am not up to the flashing challenge..too much of a chicken to play russian rulette worth 680 euros :3 (in case i break something)
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With Artemis you can hardly go wrong. It does not flash your radio only the OS part, you do not have to use HSPL but SSPL which is far easier to perform. It's all explained on the Artemis thread itself: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612580
regards, Kuzibri
BTW, if anything should go wrong, almost impossible with Artemis ROM's, then you can always flash back one of the original stock ROM.s from HTC itself (1.66 or 1.72)

kuzibri said:
With Artemis you can hardly go wrong. It does not flash your radio only the OS part, you do not have to use HSPL but SSPL which is far easier to perform. It's all explained on the Artemis thread itself:
regards, Kuzibri
BTW, if anything should go wrong, almost impossible with Artemis ROM's, then you can always flash back one of the original stock ROM.s from HTC itself (1.66 or 1.72)
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hmmm...this is actually interesting...the artemis post seems to be fairly close to stock rom...BUT..if i backup all stuff i got now, will the usual apps (spb backup e.t.c) store everything?like e.g pc imaging apps(acronis true image , paragon drive backup) ? and if they do...and something goes wrong i can restore from pc even if hd2 becomes unbootable?
i really wish there was something simpler than me meddling with flashing :S im more into-system knowledge oriented guy :S

Baker0 said:
just for a test select sign in with a different account so it wipes your details amd reset, use your phone normally and dont use live see how that gets on.
I had my phone running for 2 - 3 days of medium use. as soon as i signed up for live it was lasting less that a day even if i used task manager. I then wiped my details then it was back to normal again.
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done...will report changes tomorrow..

chris2busy said:
hmmm...this is actually interesting...the artemis post seems to be fairly close to stock rom...BUT..if i backup all stuff i got now, will the usual apps (spb backup e.t.c) store everything?like e.g pc imaging apps(acronis true image , paragon drive backup) ? and if they do...and something goes wrong i can restore from pc even if hd2 becomes unbootable?
i really wish there was something simpler than me meddling with flashing :S im more into-system knowledge oriented guy :S
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I understand your "reluctance" to flash a new ROM, but to be honest if you go wrong with flashing Artemis Rom, you will probably never will be ready/equippped to flash a new ROM. Flashing a Artemis ROM is as easy as it can be!
regards, Kuzibri

^_^ i turned down the backlight to 20% and noticed an improvement in battery life.

dracd said:
^_^ i turned down the backlight to 20% and noticed an improvement in battery life.
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mine is set to 30% and with auto backlight off..its the ideal for my taste actually, even for the sunniest mornings
The WLmessenger change did not bear any fruits..i squeezed out all its batt to just see any time difference but nada..
Oh well, i might probably have to get over myself and start the flashing frenzy(i hear its quite addicting )
Byt the by , there is supposed to be a WWE version of 1.7.x this month i believe..maybe i will start with that and if it gets me nowhere Artemis here i come!

i'm just waiting for a 1500 capacity battery... which is all i need...
running full power and and heavy use... i manage to make it home to charge... but still... i would much rather have a bigger battery to avoid some worrying...
1500 would be soo perfect.. that accessory alone would add an extra 3-4 hours of life on my phone.. which would be more then enough...

chris2busy said:
there is supposed to be a WWE version of 1.7.x this month i believe..maybe i
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Hopefully it comes out soon, but I'm tempted to try Artemis at the moment.

By the way i have 1 weird question about all those ROMs..Are they created from scratch from their makers or are they just modified/edited/tweaked versions of the original OS (ROM) that shipped with the phone?

I ordered a battery bundle with a wall charger, 2X1200mh batteries and a Mirco USB wire for $14 bucks. This is my first full smartphone so its hard for me to get used to the battery life.

I turned off all communications to flight mode. Yet my HD2 battery power keeps dropping fast. I dont have this problem with all my previous windows phone. Whats wrong? I'm using factory rom

malisha1 said:
I ordered a battery bundle with a wall charger, 2X1200mh batteries and a Mirco USB wire for $14 bucks. This is my first full smartphone so its hard for me to get used to the battery life.
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yea the hd2's minimal battery life is something that i never had to deal with before also... (i've owned other smartphones but usually could last 2-3 days with moderate to heavy use...) but then again.. i never had a smartphone like the hd2 before
regardless... i'm not sure if i'd be willing to carry 2 batteries around with me... granted i could just leave it in my car until its needed.. but i guess i just consider it a extra thing to remember before i go inside my house/ an extra step to complete before i sleep... would much rather have just one 1500mh

Battery Drain
Do you guys experiencing battery drain have Co0kies Home Tab installed?
There is a known battery drain issue with CHT if .NET version 3.5.9198.0 is not installed. The battery drain will disappear when 3.5.9198.0 replaces .Net 3.5.7xxx.
Don't forget to update the registry to activate the new version and deactivate version 2 or earlier version of 3.5!
Co0kieMonster said:
Some users have had trouble with the battery drain.
I've now added this solution to the first post.
About battery drain:
There is an incompatibility with older versions of the .Net framework that can cause the battery to drain too quickly.
If you have this issue download the latest .Net version from here and install it on your device.
Even if you don't have the issue, it's always good to have the latest .Net version installed.
Big thanks to mike2nl for providing this solution, and to MichelDiamond for tracking the issue while I was away.
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[Q] Basic phone (long battery life)

Hi
I've been reading xda threads for long now and I have always wondered if there was a way to transform a smartphone into a basic phone. Let me explain myself.
I own an HTC HD2 and I'm really satisfied with it's big screen, power, ... I live in a house with electricity cool and thus charging it every 1 or 2 days is not a real problem. But once a while I have to live a fews days or a week without electricity (for example holidays like a one week camping), but I still have to receive a few important phone calls.
I'm using Android right now and this led me to think of a linux build (for example launched from WM) that would only enable us to browse our contacts directory and manage phone calls. The interface would be very simple, without beautiful effects, and I guess it would be possible for the battery to last very long this way, since most of the apps launched on powerful OS would not even be included. There would be not slidings, no transparency, and everything that require power.
I'm sorry if such a topic exists but I took some time to search and nothing appeared. And please don't replay "It is not the purpose of smartphones" since I know that, I've made a choice and I'm satisfied, but I just want to know if there's a way to make it even better.
I'm not (yet?) a developer so what I ask might be unrealistic, but I'm convinced this idea could be useful to most people. There could also be other ways to achieve this, like another OS or just a WM mode...
Don't you think it would be great to be able to switch to this when long battery life is needed ?

dalapigi said:
Hi
I've been reading xda threads for long now and I have always wondered if there was a way to transform a smartphone into a basic phone. Let me explain myself.
I own an HTC HD2 and I'm really satisfied with it's big screen, power, ... I live in a house with electricity cool and thus charging it every 1 or 2 days is not a real problem. But once a while I have to live a fews days or a week without electricity (for example holidays like a one week camping), but I still have to receive a few important phone calls.
I'm using Android right now and this led me to think of a linux build (for example launched from WM) that would only enable us to browse our contacts directory and manage phone calls. The interface would be very simple, without beautiful effects, and I guess it would be possible for the battery to last very long this way, since most of the apps launched on powerful OS would not even be included. There would be not slidings, no transparency, and everything that require power.
I'm sorry if such a topic exists but I took some time to search and nothing appeared. And please don't replay "It is not the purpose of smartphones" since I know that, I've made a choice and I'm satisfied, but I just want to know if there's a way to make it even better.
I'm not (yet?) a developer so what I ask might be unrealistic, but I'm convinced this idea could be useful to most people. There could also be other ways to achieve this, like another OS or just a WM mode...
Don't you think it would be great to be able to switch to this when long battery life is needed ?
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Hello,
That is actually quite interesting, but the first time I have heard of such a query in the 9 months this phone has been released.
Just out of interest, have you tried running the phone with just the standard WM interface to see how long the battery lasts?

Alternative solutions:
1 - You could always try wind-up, or solar charger.
2 - buy the cheapest PAYG phone you can get (on your network)and put your HD2 SIM in it.. These tend to last quite a few days on standby and you don't really care if it gets bashed or wet.

fred_up said:
Alternative solutions:
2 - buy the cheapest PAYG phone you can get (on your network)and put your HD2 SIM in it.. These tend to last quite a few days on standby and you don't really care if it gets bashed or wet.
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could u really do that? </3

@fred_up
Those are nice ideas ! (Infact I've lost my cheap phone recently)
Morpheus, what you mean is WM without sense ? I'm not sure there would be a huge improvement...

dalapigi said:
WM without sense ? I'm not sure there would be a huge improvement...
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you can turn Sense off in Settings/More/Today,
and according to BattClock power consumption on my Leo (YMMV) is:
Sense: 100-300 mA
Windows Default: 42 mA

Turning off sense would give you a noticable amount of battery life......
The sense interface is a hungry hungry beast........
The linux idea is nice but the problem is that it would be running on top of windows and therefore not save any battery.........
Luckily I still have my trusty (4 days without a charge) N95........
The old girl still comes in handy...

D4rkSoRRoW said:
could u really do that? </3
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Whenever I break my good phone I just use a T-mobile PAYG phone until I can order a new phone. Or if I'm going camping or biking or something.

nice i will try to disable sense ! thanks for this tip
about linux, i believe i read that wm is completzly shut down when launching android (it only serves as a trigger ?)

Running SPB Mobile Shell, I lose 1% of battery life every 3 hours on standy. That's with data and wifi turned off and just the phone running. That would give me about 300 hours of standby time. In theory that should last you a week with a few short calls.
Problem with Android/Ubuntu on this phone right now is you have to run it off the sd card, which draws a lot more power. Whenever the screen is on it draws a lot of power anyway. The best I've done so far is 6% drain over 8 hours with just the phone running in standby.
The most obvious/best solution for you is to just bring an old dumb phone instead or as backup. Then you can just slip the sim card out and use that to make/receive calls.

[WP7] The two ways by which you can get awesome battery

So you did flash, and you are running WP7 on your HD2.
Now the battery dies quick?
Firstly, download this ROM and flash it: (google your ass to find out how its done, dont ask me )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941905
Its a custom ROM by football. Works amazing. Better than original ROM or the Moonlight (another custom rom) shiite you're planning on running.
After you have this ROM (or even if you dont have this ROM) if you take care of the follwing things, you will get HUGE battery life.
1. Fix the indicator by installing Registry editor, charge your battery to full and follow following steps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933751
Thanks arkatis!
2. See that you have a new sd card, not the one which came with your hd2 orignially, buy a new one, any branded one should do, and rplace it with the older card and in your phone go to: settings> about phone> hard reset
These two steps will really show a massive imprvement in your battery life.
(google tom xap deployer, registry editor xap for wp7 hd2, chevron unlocker)

Are you able to list even one of the performance difference's between this rom and the Moonlight rom?

i think moonlight is good at battery back up .... more than 24 hours used now ...

mickfarr said:
Are you able to list even one of the performance difference's between this rom and the Moonlight rom?
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well, for astarters, ml has a higher call drop rate, the voice quality over the call isnt all that great either, im on x.12 radio, and its not able to use the radio perfectly - this same problem is not there on footballs rom.
Another bug is while recieving calls, sometimes, when you click "answer" it automatically puts you on speaker phone! Its scary when you dont want others to know who just called. (happened twice on ml)
gps lock took nearly 5 minutes on ml, on footballs rom it snaps on in less than 30 seconds.
thats why i had to switch to hd2 1.00

Odd how I haven't had any of those problems. Anyway there is no difference between this rom and footballs rom. The tools to make any of those kind of fixes aren't out yet. The only kind of change you'll find is simple things like different keyboards or installed apps.

reflux21 said:
well, for astarters, ml has a higher call drop rate, the voice quality over the call isnt all that great either, im on x.12 radio, and its not able to use the radio perfectly - this same problem is not there on footballs rom.
Another bug is while recieving calls, sometimes, when you click "answer" it automatically puts you on speaker phone! Its scary when you dont want others to know who just called. (happened twice on ml)
gps lock took nearly 5 minutes on ml, on footballs rom it snaps on in less than 30 seconds.
thats why i had to switch to hd2 1.00
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You answered the wrong question. He asked for "performance difference".
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Are you able to list even one of the performance difference's between this rom and the Moonlight rom?
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I did both, but there is no improvement in battery life. lasts less than 12h as before...

I will try the hard reset part when my new SD card arrives

Hold on there a sec, top be clear buying a new SD card might not work at all!!
If you dont have lots of cash or you dont have another use for the SD card please dont go spead money on something that may not work!
Not all cards, even within teh same brand and model will work!
and the reg fix doesnt improve battery life, it just lets you know what you have left, most issues with apparent high consumption are because a your phone isnt fully charged yet windows reports it so, apply reg fix once charged, restart and charge again you may been to repeat process, and to check use the HYC battery tool, try it pluged in and unplugged and you may notice a difference, if you do, restart and plug back in again to charge the remaining battery

I am using Moonlight atm..and with calls/sms and wifing i get utleast 1 and a half day..I use my tweak everytime i charge the phone and seems alright!
I am so obsessed with WP7 so i maybe get an official WP7 mobile..i am thinking of Omnia 7..Looks good!

reflux21 said:
2. See that you have a new sd card, not the one which came with your hd2 orignially, buy a new one, any branded one should do, and rplace it with the older card and in your phone go to: settings> about phone> hard reset
These two steps will really show a massive imprvement in your battery life.
(google tom xap deployer, registry editor xap for wp7 hd2, chevron unlocker)
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I actually got the best battery life with the card that came with my HD2.... I've tried 8 different cards with wp7, too... most of them bought recently. Just buying a new card doesn't mean it will work with WP7. Your best chance of getting a good working card it to get a class 2 sandisk with part# ending in A11M.

reflux21 said:
2. See that you have a new sd card, not the one which came with your hd2 orignially, buy a new one, any branded one should do, and rplace it with the older card and in your phone go to: settings> about phone> hard reset
These two steps will really show a massive imprvement in your battery life.
(google tom xap deployer, registry editor xap for wp7 hd2, chevron unlocker)
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I only seen this now! This just proves you haven't a clue what you are talking about!!

I'm using the Moonlight-Rom and I tried the last Radios (2.12, 2.15, 2.14)
And the winner is 2.14 - used the phone a lot (games used Wifi...) and after 12h I've still 25% left.
With the other Radios I had to charge it after 9houres because it ran out of battery without using it that much only some SMS!

Lord Raque said:
I'm using the Moonlight-Rom and I tried the last Radios (2.12, 2.15, 2.14)
And the winner is 2.14 - used the phone a lot (games used Wifi...) and after 12h I've still 25% left.
With the other Radios I had to charge it after 9houres because it ran out of battery without using it that much only some SMS!
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Hey,
at least we could talk in german, but the others should be able to understand our conversation
I also tried many Radio Roms and my fav is 2.12, bu to be honest I only tried 2.10 2.12 and 2.15.
Do you really think, that the 2.14 is better than the 2.12?

Ja dann machen wir das in deutsch... ;-)
Yes The first Rom I tried was 2.15 (it was already installed - previous rom)
Then I read that 2.12 is working very good and because my phone needs to be charged after less than half a day (using 2.15) I tried 2.12 - but I still had the same problem.
Thats why I decided to use a other Radio! And it seems to work!
Maybe it depends on the phones too?
I dont't know - Try and Error....

I too don't think the registry battery fix works. First time I ever installed WM7 ROM was football's and never changed it. Tried the battery fix a few times with no luck.
Had Radio 2.15 and downgraded to 2.12 with no luck. I see some have improvement with 2.14.
I took out my SIM card yesterday to try if SD card "helps" in battery drain. Left wifi on and played with internet for a bit. This morning it had like 90%+ battery left in it. So it's not the SD card. IMO Radio is the major culprit for the battery drain.
I'll try 2.14 tonight.

iBimmer said:
I too don't think the registry battery fix works. First time I ever installed WM7 ROM was football's and never changed it. Tried the battery fix a few times with no luck.
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That is what I am feeling too! In an other forum I read, that it could be helpful to release the battery for 60s before charging it. But I don't want to do this every time I charge my phone

iBimmer said:
I too don't think the registry battery fix works.
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Right, tried that too but there are no changes and if I check the battery with the HTC battery tool after charging it is 100% charged....

Lord Raque said:
the HTC battery tool
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What is that for a tool?

Found it somewhere here.... @ XDA

Should i convert from WIN6.5 to Android ?

Hello all,
Firstly a big thank you to all on this site for offering such a fantastic platform to rebuild our priced gadgets to something which is more user friendly...
I aint no techie but in the past have used this site to upgrade the ROM/RADIO for my HTC HD2 phone as was constantly facing a drop in signal and the phone booting up etc...
My current details are as listed below:
OS 5.2.21913(21913.5.0.94)
Manila version 2.5.20181527.1
Rom version 3.14.161.3 (04666) WWE
Rom date 15Dec 2010
Radio version 2.15.50.14
Protocol version 15.42.50.11U
some of my queries:
- I am thinking of converting this to a complete Android OS... Is this possible on the above specs ?
- Is the benefit with Android only to do with additional applications available in the MARKET (WIN6.5 hardly has any and most are charged!) or will i get a better connectivity/signal strength and a better battery life ?
- I noticed on a few forums about a dual boot with Android on the SD card but am not keen on booting the phone every now and then.. would rather stick to one - Android or W6.5
- I do have a problem with the phone sometimes while browsing with Opera or IE. The phone heats up a lot and then just shuts off or the screen freezes and I need to open the battery slot, get the battery out, reinsert and then start the phone all over again. Its quiet sad thing and yet I love the damn phone!
I apologize in advance in case if I have posted this wrongly in this forum. Kindly point me to the right direction, as always...
Cheers!
HTC fan from India

Do it, there is a tool that can do it for you without much hassle, nice simple gui. I would suggest doing the nand android method instead of booting from sd.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

enigma075 said:
Hello all,
Firstly a big thank you to all on this site for offering such a fantastic platform to rebuild our priced gadgets to something which is more user friendly...
I aint no techie but in the past have used this site to upgrade the ROM/RADIO for my HTC HD2 phone as was constantly facing a drop in signal and the phone booting up etc...
My current details are as listed below:
OS 5.2.21913(21913.5.0.94)
Manila version 2.5.20181527.1
Rom version 3.14.161.3 (04666) WWE
Rom date 15Dec 2010
Radio version 2.15.50.14
Protocol version 15.42.50.11U
some of my queries:
- I am thinking of converting this to a complete Android OS... Is this possible on the above specs ?
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- Is the benefit with Android only to do with additional applications available in the MARKET (WIN6.5 hardly has any and most are charged!)
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yes
or will i get a better connectivity/signal strength and a better battery life ?
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- I noticed on a few forums about a dual boot with Android on the SD card but am not keen on booting the phone every now and then.. would rather stick to one - Android or W6.5
- I do have a problem with the phone sometimes while browsing with Opera or IE. The phone heats up a lot and then just shuts off or the screen freezes and I need to open the battery slot, get the battery out, reinsert and then start the phone all over again. Its quiet sad thing and yet I love the damn phone!
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oh dear, that doesn't sound good, I'd suspect overheating leading to hardware faults. As an example I can browse and listen to music all day long with very little temperature change. Winmo or android.
I apologize in advance in case if I have posted this wrongly in this forum. Kindly point me to the right direction, as always...
Cheers!
HTC fan from India
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Summary,,, if you want to change, change, if you don't, don't. Android wont make the phone "better" but it will give you new stuff to play with.
That being said I'd be wary of too much flashing since it sounds like you have possible hardware problems on the horizon,,be a shame to get stuck in an unflashable state.

hello guys... thank you both for your encouragement... would rather flash the phone and play around with something new instead of letting it die a natural death...
Whats the latest version of the NAND ANDROID that you guys recommend ? ne links on it with a detailed description...step by step... i aint a techie remember..
thanks for the views and responses...
Cheers!

I had the same dilemma a few days ago, ended up putting on the NAND rom of android and it obviously a lot better to play around with than winmo but the battery life is not as good as with winmo on. Still lasts a couple of days on standby with a little bit of use.
The rom I would reccommend is the one I flashed, Typhoon cyanogen mod 7 without sense but every thing works perfectly on it so far.
Here's a link to it : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951
Once you have installed it set the cpu with SetCpu app to about 800 mhz and it works fine without getting overly hot.

ryan123459 said:
I had the same dilemma a few days ago, ended up putting on the NAND rom of android and it obviously a lot better to play around with than winmo but the battery life is not as good as with winmo on. Still lasts a couple of days on standby with a little bit of use.
The rom I would reccommend is the one I flashed, Typhoon cyanogen mod 7 without sense but every thing works perfectly on it so far.
Here's a link to it : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951
Once you have installed it set the cpu with SetCpu app to about 800 mhz and it works fine without getting overly hot.
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Also, by tweaking the CPU VDD levels you will provide to keep your phone colder and squeeze some more juice from the battery: you can find all the instructions on the first page of Tyween's thread (the link above).

hi there... thanks both for your response... is the version provided in your message the latest files/version that is available for download or are there any other versions to look around for ?
Before flashing I plan to save my contacts with msn mobile... it saves my contacts and sms's... will i be able to recover it in the same format after i upload android ?
noticed on some forums that gsensor is a problem... does it impact the functioning so much on android ?
One of you mentioned 'sense' will not work on android... does that mean the seamless touch that is there on w6.5 will no longer be applicable...
requesting all this information just to be double sure b4 going ahead with something major like this...
are there any video tutorials on this ? the link as so many sublinks... i am thoroughly confused...
thanks in advance for your response...

The version of android is 2.3.5, the latest version at the moment I think.
The G sensor works fine on mine I have been playing games which use the sensor.
The phone touch will work fine its just you won't have the htc customization of clocks etc.
I'm not sure about saving contacts but if you could somehow save the contacts with a Google account it would be straight forward getting them onto android.
So to sum up everything seems to work fine as it would on Android though the battery doesn't last as long, but it still lasts a considerable time for a smartphone.
If you follow the link for the Rom I posted, in there, there is a instruction document made by someone which is very easy to follow. Just follow it step by step and you should be just fine.
PS make sure you backup anything you require before starting the process.

Good Afternoon
A friend of mine wants to install Android onto his device and wants me to do it for him as he doesn't want to mess it up.
Is there any sort of idiot guide to show me how to do this, I don't think it'll be easy as when I update the ROMs on my Desire HD
Also which build would one recommend, I want something he can use wiht any issues if possible.
Thanks in advance

hi ryan,
thanks for your revert mate... and clarifying about the gsensor. When you say the standard HTC application like 'clock etc' will not be there... would that take away the weather background which I so like... is there something similar available in the android market to download at a later stage (i love the weather thing HTC has to offer)...
Never tried google to synchronize my phone contacts... is it done through USB or over the air using 2G or something like that (sorry am quiet a novice with gmail!). Will it sync my sms's too... ?
I have changed my battery and no longer use the original HTC one... as it would drain out in a few hours inspite of me using the phone sparingly. I now use a chinese battery from the last few months and it lasts me a good 1.5-2days at max...
Will my service provider in India 'Loop Mobile' be able to send me the new settings that are compatible with android ? Being a weekend I don't want to loose out on contact sync in the middle of the night if the data plan is not activated again...ne suggestions would be appreciated..

There is a clock-weather app in the market which is similar to HTC sense's.
Not sure how google sync works with winmo you would have to figure that out.
About the service proivder I can't be 100% sure as my first android rom on SD didn't work straight away with T-mobile uk but this typhoon one worked straight away, but if you had setting on winmo you should be able to get it on android.

Software Guru said:
Good Afternoon
A friend of mine wants to install Android onto his device and wants me to do it for him as he doesn't want to mess it up.
Is there any sort of idiot guide to show me how to do this, I don't think it'll be easy as when I update the ROMs on my Desire HD
Also which build would one recommend, I want something he can use wiht any issues if possible.
Thanks in advance
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Follow the link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951
and under install tutorials use the clean installation guide, which I used and it tells you step by step what to do, remember to download all the required files first which are all in the link.

Hi, use "SpriteMigrate" to transfer your sms from winmo to android.
I prefer Typhoon, here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951

hi there... i just checked up the "spritemigrate" site and they have closed their FREE BETA application... what a shame as it seemed like the perfect solution to my problem of storing sms/contacts before flashing the phone...
any other options ?
cheers and thanks for writing in mate...

hi there again... as mentioned in my earlier posts... i have sync my phone to msn mobile and hence all my contacts and sms's are backed up every night on msn... once i move to android.. will i be able to sync the phone again just as i did with w6.5 ?
I do have a gmail account but not sure if they have the feature of storing sms's along with the contacts in google mobile. I am frustrated trying to figure out an option for contacts and sms's together.. any help would be appreciated...
cheers!

Oh Lord... I am so frustrated... spent the whole afternoon trying to figure out to save contacts and sms's online somewhere before i flash my phone but sadly no luck... just realised msn-my phone service has been deactivated and most other services are paid services...
Guess this is the only thing that is stopping me now from flashing the phone inspite of downloading most of the required files...
My last attempt - any help guys ?!?!?
thanks in advance...
Cheers!

Hi Enigma075, a little off topic but watch out with flashing in case the issues that you've described get worse. The symptoms you're describing, phone heating and screen unresponsive are exactly what happened to my HD2 recently. A week or two after it started the screen became entirely unresponsive and now HTC are (hopefully) fixing it.
Have a search on google, a few other people have encountered this as well.

I recommend trying SD first.
Note that some users reported NAND android to cause bad blocks in the NAND. so if anything bad happens, you might not be able to flash windows again. Read a lot about specific NAND build before you try them.
SD builds cause bad blocks on SD card, which is easily repairable. on NAND, it's not easy, if possible.

hello Dr. Move & Wsummers,
thank you both for responding to my post. I guess I would go in for the SD first as its getting extremely frustrating to save my contacts somewhere and then put it back again on NAND plus the tension of bricking the phone completely...
Are you able to advise me on the latest link on the SD version ? Have a few questions on this method:
- Will the phone become slow in terms of usage ?
- Will I have to reload the contacts again when i boot it to the sd android mode ?
- Whats the battery response like ?
Thanks again for your insights...
Cheers!

you can use titanium backup to backup your contacts, it'll save you quite sometime. alternatively, you can export your contacts to your SD and reload them again on the SD version.
Newer SD build are quite fast in terms of usage, not as fast as the NAND, but the difference is barely noticeable.. but that depends on how you use your device. Note that some games may not work on certain SD versions.
You can try the two versions in my sig, I've tried both for more than a month, and they're quite stable.
Battery consumption in standby is low in new builds, I get around 7 mA/h when the phone is on and 3 mA/h on airplane mode. some people experience even lower values. it depends more on your SD, and the network coverage.
in hourly terms, you'll lose ~1% per hour, and ~1% every two hours on airplane mode.
if you have any problems regarding the SD version, you can check my troubleshooter (in my sig), or ask me directly