Hello..I am an overall very excited HTC HD2 user but i am having huge battery problems which is why i am asking for your insights In general if phone is idle it can go as far as 35 hours straight without any charging.But when i start playing around with it, browse menus , look through settings,launch apps e.t.c the battery drains like mad..sometimes even 3% in 10 minutes..
i do not know what could be the cause of this in particular since listening to mp3, watching movies does not chalk down too much power,i can even say i was slightly happy in that area(consumption and quality wise)..
so far i have done the below..
-hard reseted
-got a brilliant new mmc (transcend 8gb class 6 FTW )
-flight mode only during nights
-bsb tweaks
-some of the tweaks mentioned in the registry tweak for battery thread (not mmc ones, read alot about data corruption risks)
-tested battery (output voltage and mah are fine and it only gets warm after 3 hours of constant ndrive use-which is normal)
-i never installed anywhere else besides phone memory(apps/games)
-virus free
-i have no data plan so 3g/hsdpa access is not a possibility(also deactivated all connections from NoData app)
-disabled all auto update app functions(weather,footprints, my location ,time e.t.c)
the only possible deal i can figure out its to blame is the radio rom..
As i said earlier i am very interested in hearing your thoughts,comments,suggestions on my issue..Thanks for hearing me out
specs
manila : 2.5.19211619
Rom : 1.66.482.1 (gr) - official
radio rom : 2.06.51.07
do you use msn live?
i have the SAME EXACT problem, i do NOT have any apps running, i always use cleanram, every apps always get terminated.
as soon as i TOUCH my phone, the battery drains, this battery is rediculous, i have BsB tweaks with powersaving, i dont beleive how you guys get a full day out of this crappy battery when mine doesnt last 10 hours with just texing/and web browsing. im on my third battery replacement, i conditioned my battery three times and STILL the same problem, i feel like braking this phone in half, im using my blackberry bold 9700 now which lasts me 3 days with FULL usage ALL day, my hd2 is about to see the hammer soon
try flashing it to another rom
I stepped from stock rom to artemis and I use my HD2 often but with the stock rom i didn't even came to the middle of the day but with that artemis rom i can get till next day morning without charging plus it's very stable and i almost never do a soft reset and i use this artemis rom about a month now and i didn't even do a hard reset after flashing
sorry for my english hope you understand me
My HD2 will last 2 days constant usage. This includes web surfing and emails being pulled down all day via exchange.
The battery goes down quick to about 30% and will stay around there for ages.
Baker0 said:
do you use msn live?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No sir...and when i do i shut it down via resco task manager.. :/
Finezt said:
try flashing it to another rom
I stepped from stock rom to artemis and I use my HD2 often but with the stock rom i didn't even came to the middle of the day but with that artemis rom i can get till next day morning without charging plus it's very stable and i almost never do a soft reset and i use this artemis rom about a month now and i didn't even do a hard reset after flashing
sorry for my english hope you understand me
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I hear good things about artemis as well but i am afraid i am not up to the flashing challenge..too much of a chicken to play russian rulette worth 680 euros :3 (in case i break something)
just for a test select sign in with a different account so it wipes your details amd reset, use your phone normally and dont use live see how that gets on.
I had my phone running for 2 - 3 days of medium use. as soon as i signed up for live it was lasting less that a day even if i used task manager. I then wiped my details then it was back to normal again.
chris2busy said:
No sir...and when i do i shut it down via resco task manager.. :/
I hear good things about artemis as well but i am afraid i am not up to the flashing challenge..too much of a chicken to play russian rulette worth 680 euros :3 (in case i break something)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
With Artemis you can hardly go wrong. It does not flash your radio only the OS part, you do not have to use HSPL but SSPL which is far easier to perform. It's all explained on the Artemis thread itself: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612580
regards, Kuzibri
BTW, if anything should go wrong, almost impossible with Artemis ROM's, then you can always flash back one of the original stock ROM.s from HTC itself (1.66 or 1.72)
kuzibri said:
With Artemis you can hardly go wrong. It does not flash your radio only the OS part, you do not have to use HSPL but SSPL which is far easier to perform. It's all explained on the Artemis thread itself:
regards, Kuzibri
BTW, if anything should go wrong, almost impossible with Artemis ROM's, then you can always flash back one of the original stock ROM.s from HTC itself (1.66 or 1.72)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hmmm...this is actually interesting...the artemis post seems to be fairly close to stock rom...BUT..if i backup all stuff i got now, will the usual apps (spb backup e.t.c) store everything?like e.g pc imaging apps(acronis true image , paragon drive backup) ? and if they do...and something goes wrong i can restore from pc even if hd2 becomes unbootable?
i really wish there was something simpler than me meddling with flashing :S im more into-system knowledge oriented guy :S
Baker0 said:
just for a test select sign in with a different account so it wipes your details amd reset, use your phone normally and dont use live see how that gets on.
I had my phone running for 2 - 3 days of medium use. as soon as i signed up for live it was lasting less that a day even if i used task manager. I then wiped my details then it was back to normal again.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
done...will report changes tomorrow..
chris2busy said:
hmmm...this is actually interesting...the artemis post seems to be fairly close to stock rom...BUT..if i backup all stuff i got now, will the usual apps (spb backup e.t.c) store everything?like e.g pc imaging apps(acronis true image , paragon drive backup) ? and if they do...and something goes wrong i can restore from pc even if hd2 becomes unbootable?
i really wish there was something simpler than me meddling with flashing :S im more into-system knowledge oriented guy :S
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I understand your "reluctance" to flash a new ROM, but to be honest if you go wrong with flashing Artemis Rom, you will probably never will be ready/equippped to flash a new ROM. Flashing a Artemis ROM is as easy as it can be!
regards, Kuzibri
^_^ i turned down the backlight to 20% and noticed an improvement in battery life.
dracd said:
^_^ i turned down the backlight to 20% and noticed an improvement in battery life.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
mine is set to 30% and with auto backlight off..its the ideal for my taste actually, even for the sunniest mornings
The WLmessenger change did not bear any fruits..i squeezed out all its batt to just see any time difference but nada..
Oh well, i might probably have to get over myself and start the flashing frenzy(i hear its quite addicting )
Byt the by , there is supposed to be a WWE version of 1.7.x this month i believe..maybe i will start with that and if it gets me nowhere Artemis here i come!
i'm just waiting for a 1500 capacity battery... which is all i need...
running full power and and heavy use... i manage to make it home to charge... but still... i would much rather have a bigger battery to avoid some worrying...
1500 would be soo perfect.. that accessory alone would add an extra 3-4 hours of life on my phone.. which would be more then enough...
chris2busy said:
there is supposed to be a WWE version of 1.7.x this month i believe..maybe i
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hopefully it comes out soon, but I'm tempted to try Artemis at the moment.
By the way i have 1 weird question about all those ROMs..Are they created from scratch from their makers or are they just modified/edited/tweaked versions of the original OS (ROM) that shipped with the phone?
I ordered a battery bundle with a wall charger, 2X1200mh batteries and a Mirco USB wire for $14 bucks. This is my first full smartphone so its hard for me to get used to the battery life.
I turned off all communications to flight mode. Yet my HD2 battery power keeps dropping fast. I dont have this problem with all my previous windows phone. Whats wrong? I'm using factory rom
malisha1 said:
I ordered a battery bundle with a wall charger, 2X1200mh batteries and a Mirco USB wire for $14 bucks. This is my first full smartphone so its hard for me to get used to the battery life.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yea the hd2's minimal battery life is something that i never had to deal with before also... (i've owned other smartphones but usually could last 2-3 days with moderate to heavy use...) but then again.. i never had a smartphone like the hd2 before
regardless... i'm not sure if i'd be willing to carry 2 batteries around with me... granted i could just leave it in my car until its needed.. but i guess i just consider it a extra thing to remember before i go inside my house/ an extra step to complete before i sleep... would much rather have just one 1500mh
Battery Drain
Do you guys experiencing battery drain have Co0kies Home Tab installed?
There is a known battery drain issue with CHT if .NET version 3.5.9198.0 is not installed. The battery drain will disappear when 3.5.9198.0 replaces .Net 3.5.7xxx.
Don't forget to update the registry to activate the new version and deactivate version 2 or earlier version of 3.5!
Co0kieMonster said:
Some users have had trouble with the battery drain.
I've now added this solution to the first post.
About battery drain:
There is an incompatibility with older versions of the .Net framework that can cause the battery to drain too quickly.
If you have this issue download the latest .Net version from here and install it on your device.
Even if you don't have the issue, it's always good to have the latest .Net version installed.
Big thanks to mike2nl for providing this solution, and to MichelDiamond for tracking the issue while I was away.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Related
Dear mobile friends,
Recently i have installed NBD on my MDA vario t-mobile Aku2 phone.
I like it alot!
For the chef cook who made this wonderful recipe, A big thanks for all the effort!
I do have one little question...my battery is empty after one day
Any idea how to fix this¿
Thanks in advance.
Regards, Rogier.
mobile-eenheid said:
Dear mobile friends,
Recently i have installed NBD on my MDA vario t-mobile Aku2 phone.
I like it alot!
For the chef cook who made this wonderful recipe, A big thanks for all the effort!
I do have one little question...my battery is empty after one day
Any idea how to fix this¿
Thanks in advance.
Regards, Rogier.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
get a different phone?
Are you saying your battery is dead 1 day after continuously having this program activated? If so, I'm amazed the battery lasted that long! How old is your device and battery? Does the battery charge o.k. when it's plugged to a charger?
Hi Hotdog,
Thanks for your reply.
My device is 1 year old and the battery drains even when the phone is inactive(battery charges just fine).
Before installing NBD, the battery lasted like 3 days (not really an active user of the phone) and now only 1 day.
Am i the only person experiencing this issue around the forums??
Device info:
ROM version 6.6.6.666 WWE
ROM date 8/23/07
RADIO version 02.19.11
Protocol version 4.1.1309
MDA Vario T-mobile AKU2 model.
Thx.
mobile-eenheid said:
Hi Hotdog,
Thanks for your reply.
My device is 1 year old and the battery drains even when the phone is inactive(battery charges just fine).
Before installing NBD, the battery lasted like 3 days (not really an active user of the phone) and now only 1 day.
Am i the only person experiencing this issue around the forums??
Device info:
ROM version 6.6.6.666 WWE
ROM date 8/23/07
RADIO version 02.19.11
Protocol version 4.1.1309
MDA Vario T-mobile AKU2 model.
Thx.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ive seen many people with this problem. all I can suggest to you is, lower rom numbers on WM6 use up the battery faster. I dont know why that is but that is the trend.
Im not suggesting you go out there and get 2.69 radio rom. the higher you go the more unstable the rom is. all Im saying is, it might be the radio rom mixed with WM6. try a reflash back to wm5 and see if battery is back to 3 days.
One other thing you can try is drain the battery completely, recharge it fully, drain it a second time and recharge it fully again. sometimes when you flash the battery memory gets messed up, it's happened to me once.
elmetal said:
Ive seen many people with this problem. all I can suggest to you is, lower rom numbers on WM6 use up the battery faster. I dont know why that is but that is the trend.
Im not suggesting you go out there and get 2.69 radio rom. the higher you go the more unstable the rom is. all Im saying is, it might be the radio rom mixed with WM6. try a reflash back to wm5 and see if battery is back to 3 days.
One other thing you can try is drain the battery completely, recharge it fully, drain it a second time and recharge it fully again. sometimes when you flash the battery memory gets messed up, it's happened to me once.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the reply elmetal!
That brings me to my second question,
Is there a Radio ROM out there for my T-mobile that is stable and runs smooth under NBD 8.0?
What comes after RADIO version 02.19.11? 2.69 radio rom?
I did actually flash back to the original T-mobile NL ROM (latest version)
And there the battery is functioning as expected.
(you can really tell, in the afternoon, the battery is almost at 50% with NBD)
Thank you so much for your help! really appreciated.
mobile-eenheid said:
Thanks for the reply elmetal!
That brings me to my second question,
Is there a Radio ROM out there for my T-mobile that is stable and runs smooth under NBD 8.0?
What comes after RADIO version 02.19.11? 2.69 radio rom?
I did actually flash back to the original T-mobile NL ROM (latest version)
And there the battery is functioning as expected.
(you can really tell, in the afternoon, the battery is almost at 50% with NBD)
Thank you so much for your help! really appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hmm.. I never focus much on tmobile users with radio problems, more cingular users. some say the 2.47 works, some say the 2.69 is flawless, I personally use the cingular 2.25.11. it's the stock cingular rom and it works fine.
Im gonna give the forum a good look for tmobile radio rom threads and ill redirect you
I suggest you try the cingular 2.25.11 (being that tmobile in the us uses a lot of cingular towers) since its really really stable.
EDIT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314235&highlight=t+mobile+radio+rom
try that, its a decent thread on the ROM workin in the UK, Im not exactly sure where you're stationed but the point is this, there's probably an existing thread out there.
Only thing is, many different people have many different results. Updating Radio ROMs is a little dangerous for me cus the calls I receive can be very important so I try not to mess with it.
Install a new radio rom, leave your phone in standby for a few hours and test texting and calling to see if itll wake up on its own, some roms wont work well. trial and error
Goodluck!
elmetal said:
hmm.. I never focus much on tmobile users with radio problems, more cingular users. some say the 2.47 works, some say the 2.69 is flawless, I personally use the cingular 2.25.11. it's the stock cingular rom and it works fine.
Im gonna give the forum a good look for tmobile radio rom threads and ill redirect you
I suggest you try the cingular 2.25.11 (being that tmobile in the us uses a lot of cingular towers) since its really really stable.
EDIT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314235&highlight=t+mobile+radio+rom
try that, its a decent thread on the ROM workin in the UK, Im not exactly sure where you're stationed but the point is this, there's probably an existing thread out there.
Only thing is, many different people have many different results. Updating Radio ROMs is a little dangerous for me cus the calls I receive can be very important so I try not to mess with it.
Install a new radio rom, leave your phone in standby for a few hours and test texting and calling to see if itll wake up on its own, some roms wont work well. trial and error
Goodluck!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Point taken
Will do some more research on Tmobile Dutch(Netherlands) Radio Roms to see if that helps.
Thanks for all the effort elmetal!
Nope it's not the Radio Rom 2.19 is the most stable and loses less energy.
The 2.69 radio Has more problems keeping the signal so it uses more energy to maintain the signal, and of course you might lose some calls here and there.
Earlier posts do indeed have the classic basic Battery drain tips.
But what about deleting the items from the Windows\StartUp folder?
Flash a fully loaded battery.
How about borowing my new battery and see if it makes a difference since my wizard is on repair.
Some users even have reported that 8.2 actually was better on the battery then 8.3.
Some believe that it might have something to do with the memory leak problem most Wizard roms have issues with. Keeping more memory reffreshed does require more power. So try to set the weather plug in to only update mannualy set the homescreen to not time out. Or try setting up the included smartskey to overclock instead of Battery status althought i don't think that battery status causes isseus.
Or do a Combo. Drain the battery recharge it perform a hard reset or clear storage. You could also try a lower pagepool rom version, nowadays you can change the pagepool without reflashing. Lower is slower but again it uses less memory. You could also use wizard registry wizard to change the font cache to lower setting and other cache settings.
My advice is to charge as less as possible as my USB connector got ****ed.
I tried the 25.11 on T-mobile network but quit using it as it either froze the ROM or could just not connect.
Or yes you could get another phone
Also make sure you change the settings of the network registry to not automaticly scanning for the network.
elmetal said:
Ive seen many people with this problem. all I can suggest to you is, lower rom numbers on WM6 use up the battery faster. I dont know why that is but that is the trend.
Im not suggesting you go out there and get 2.69 radio rom. the higher you go the more unstable the rom is. all Im saying is, it might be the radio rom mixed with WM6. try a reflash back to wm5 and see if battery is back to 3 days.
One other thing you can try is drain the battery completely, recharge it fully, drain it a second time and recharge it fully again. sometimes when you flash the battery memory gets messed up, it's happened to me once.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a MDA and I am running WM6 and using the 2.69.11 radio and I have no problems. I found that changing the task manager settings so that the program actually closes when you click x helps increase free ram and also, don't use any overclocker software such as battery status(it kills your battery and it doesnt make that much of a difference anyways...). Another thing you want to do is disable the today timeout under today settings. that tends to use more ram and thus, kills the battery faster.
See i knew i wasn't crazy about the today timeout
Thanks for the confirm.
I had the same problem with I upgraded to 8.1. Battery drain was pretty bad.. Usually getting home from work, I'd still be in the 90's with moderate texting, but with 8.1 i'd be in like the 50's. I just went back to 7.9.
The problem isn't the ROM... it's the audio manager from HTC, that sucker eats battery like I've never seen... been having this issue too, until I stoped using the audio manager and started using windows media player!
dferreira said:
The problem isn't the ROM... it's the audio manager from HTC, that sucker eats battery like I've never seen... been having this issue too, until I stoped using the audio manager and started using windows media player!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same here i (as in i didn't actually notice it) but i stopped using the audio manager in favour of WMP as it gave better reactions to using the Stereo Bluetooth headset. As in Audio manager sometimes did not pick up the next and previous commands or would stop playing.
As i said i never really paid attention and i can only speculate that the battery drained faster when i did use Audiomanager.
Just goes to show that closing apps completely is always the best practice.
BTW, dferreira.
Ai's it Funny how one month after your WM5SE release people actually reacted after my post
What is your reason to use WM5 base?
WM5 is the native OS for Wizards... so, I find it to be more quick than WM6... Never gave me problems, like WM6 did. WM6 is just a face lift on WM5 so... I'm trying to make it as good as WM6 but quicker
Noonski....
You are my sunshine, my only sunshine
You make me happy when skies are gray
You'll never know dear how much I love you
Please don't take my sunshine away
Battery drain solved by flashing to NBD 8.0!!(¿)
Thanks for all the effort mobile friends!
mobile-eenheid said:
Noonski....
You are my sunshine, my only sunshine
You make me happy when skies are gray
You'll never know dear how much I love you
Please don't take my sunshine away
Battery drain solved by flashing to NBD 8.0!!(¿)
Thanks for all the effort mobile friends!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What build were you having a problem to begin with?
BTW you should see Alban's Touch running on 312MHZ with 12 MB Pagepool.
It Fliesszzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
well first of all i apoligize for my english..
so.. i have problem with my herald with battery drain.. i dont know what's the problem. ive tryed pdaviet 1933 and 1938 bulids, 3 versions of Touch-it and my own touch-less compilation but i every rom average power consumption is ~200ma instead of 30 (from wizard or universal) and battery is dying in 10-12 hours...
i am sure that is not any of 3rd party apps that i installed.. some process must use cpu all time. sometimes (but rarely) it falls to ~50ma (checking with acb powermeter) but i dont know when or why...
i cant find any wm5 rom in net :/ i mean ANY.. i want to try is this problem exist only on wm6 and maybe it is possible to cook wm6 rom with some files from wm5..
my unit have signs of fall and maybe it is hardware problem but i googled problem and i see i'm not alone
please - if someone have wm5 rom on harddrive please upload it and send me link.. well i cant use rapidshare at home..
http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/TaskMgr/
this task manager let you see the processes
i know this prog and killed every process that is not needed for system to work.. :/
i have tried to disable some devices and services but i doesnt have much time to test every single file.. first of all i want to try wm5 to check that the problem exist there or not..
Which Radio ROM are you using? That might be the problem.
no, thats not problem - ive used some 2.9x (i dont remember) and now 3.0x but powerconsumption is too big even in flight mode. its diffrent kind of problem..
ivanmmj said:
Which Radio ROM are you using? That might be the problem.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, that can be one problem. Older radio versions can result in unneccessary power-drain. But mine reads +105 to +115mA when idle. CPU usage is 2-4% when idle. I don't know the stats of wizard/universal, but, battery life of my unit is just fine. Lasts me a full working day with ~10% left to spare
My radio is the latest(03.07.90)
so imagine that wizard (almost same hardware) can have power consumption less than 30mA.. so can live 3-4days...
and service manual for herald claims that power consumption in idle mode must be less the 50 (as far as i remember) or you must replace MB
my battery is ust 5days old(bought a new one few days ago from boxwave)
edit: WM5 dopod official ROM is there on the FTP(i hope so)(uploads>herald)
<i'm stupid> i didnt checked uploads folder... :S thanks! currnetly downloading but i am going to work :/
thats not battery, bt, wifi, 3rdparty software or hardware problem. all heralds wm6 have huge power consumption and i dont know why... i'll check wm5 tomorow..
@slimag: first check if this drain is there in wm5 too If yes, I'll be going straight back to WM5, if it can give me 3days battery life
kdskamal said:
Yes, that can be one problem. Older radio versions can result in unneccessary power-drain. But mine reads +105 to +115mA when idle. CPU usage is 2-4% when idle. I don't know the stats of wizard/universal, but, battery life of my unit is just fine. Lasts me a full working day with ~10% left to spare
My radio is the latest(03.07.90)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The newest radio actually drains more battery...
I've had my Herald at 8mA...
Most of the time it's between 30-200mA when I'm overclocking...
ivanmmj said:
The newest radio actually drains more battery...
I've had my Herald at 8mA...
Most of the time it's between 30-200mA when I'm overclocking...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But, ivan, even with the flight mode, it is reported that there is not (much) change in mA consumption
kdskamal said:
But, ivan, even with the flight mode, it is reported that there is not (much) change in mA consumption
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Everyone's best guess is that it's a bug with the radio attempting to regain a signal even when in flightmode.
so which radio do you recomend? i had 2.97 before and onestly i dont see any diffrence after upgrade. i'll try 2.94.
and the funny thing - i disassemled my herald and clean every part and now its not 180-200ma but 100-150
next day. next rom, next radio... no diffrence :/ i didint checked wm5 yet but i flashed my herald with 2.94 radiorom and powerconsumption is still at ~180...
whole day and lowest point was 130ma.. quite anoying..
slimag said:
next day. next rom, next radio... no diffrence :/ i didint checked wm5 yet but i flashed my herald with 2.94 radiorom and powerconsumption is still at ~180...
whole day and lowest point was 130ma.. quite anoying..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you checked the WM5 rom and experienced the same drain?
kdskamal said:
Have you checked the WM5 rom and experienced the same drain?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
no :/ i've got crazy week and passed only 2 of 6 exams yet... i've got 3 cooked roms (on my own) and thats wm5. i tried once to flash with wm5 but i'm stupid and i've forgot to cut out spl/ipl and then there were new problems with my pc (graphic card just comited suicide..) so i dont know yet..
couple things ive seen..
1) 2.94 radio is batteryfriendly and reception is good.
2) sometimes after reset before i go to bed power consumption is less than 30 (~10mA) and then i receive sms and it jump up to 100mA... :/
3) the only process that take cpu (about 5%) is Shell32.exe . i'm not sure is this primary process but in wizard it takes no more cpu than any other process at idle...
i really need more time.. i've got tousands of ideas for a custom good rom and no time at all...
slimag said:
no :/ i've got crazy week and passed only 2 of 6 exams yet... i've got 3 cooked roms (on my own) and thats wm5. i tried once to flash with wm5 but i'm stupid and i've forgot to cut out spl/ipl and then there were new problems with my pc (graphic card just comited suicide..) so i dont know yet..
couple things ive seen..
1) 2.94 radio is batteryfriendly and reception is good.
2) sometimes after reset before i go to bed power consumption is less than 30 (~10mA) and then i receive sms and it jump up to 100mA... :/
3) the only process that take cpu (about 5%) is Shell32.exe . i'm not sure is this primary process but in wizard it takes no more cpu than any other process at idle...
i really need more time.. i've got tousands of ideas for a custom good rom and no time at all...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe you just have a faulty phone. It's not happening to most of us and it's across multiple ROMs.
sooo i passed already only two exams and 6 more are waiting for me but i cant wait..
i tried today to flash my device with wm5 once again and i cant make it works... device doesnt boot up (unlike my ported wm6.. it hangs on boot screen for now but i think i can bring it to live in few days)
i cut out wm5 os and make nbh again like for wm6 with htctool and wm6 works but wm5 shows only first boot screen after format fat and after reset its.. well.. its just dont turn on at all.. only way is to go to bootloader again and flash with another rom..
maybe wm5 doesnt wor with ipl/spl 4.xx?
does any one ported any wm6 rom? i'm currenlty trying to make a paradox (from wizard - 37,4mb ram free) works but im thinking about using some files from wm6.1 for hermes.
what files from herald are necessary from xip and from oem drivers?
currently im doing some researches with battery drain caused by camera driver (sk35..) maybe i'll cut out camera from final rom (i dont use it at all)
@all,
being an "old" xda-developer over from the artemis forums, i am awaiting my new touch hd within the next few days!
now i read through various posts from within your threads...and feel a complete novice again ( i wrote the sd-card-flashing wiki entry for artemis)...
- should i stay with the custom 6.1 rom in order to not fight with battery drains - i read plenty custom roms drain battery within a day
- tomtom seems to create a couple of worries, read the "compatible software entry on wiki for touch hd" - but according to some posts this doesnt seem to be fully upto date - does tomtom 7450 run?
any help highly appreciated!
greetz
thormdac
thormdac said:
@all,
being an "old" xda-developer over from the artemis forums, i am awaiting my new touch hd within the next few days!
now i read through various posts from within your threads...and feel a complete novice again ( i wrote the sd-card-flashing wiki entry for artemis)...
- should i stay with the custom 6.1 rom in order to not fight with battery drains - i read plenty custom roms drain battery within a day
- tomtom seems to create a couple of worries, read the "compatible software entry on wiki for touch hd" - but according to some posts this doesnt seem to be fully upto date - does tomtom 7450 run?
any help highly appreciated!
greetz
thormdac
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I ran an older version of Tom Tom 7 (might have been 7.2?) and it ran with no issues whatsoever.
For your first question, did you mean should u stay with the stock 6.1 ROM instead of changing to a custom one? If that's the case, then I'd say that new manila is totally worth the ROM swap. and as far as battery drain, I haven't noticed a difference. I think battery drain is more dependent on what radio you're using. I heard the new Radio drains battery faster (but better GPS). I've stayed with stock radio so far, but have changed ROMs several times and have noticed no difference in battery life. For me, under heavy (daily) use, the HD manages a full day. (this includes around 6 hours of music/radio, a couple phone calls and txts, email dling every 30min., facebook status downloading every 2 hours. and some internet.) I'm very content with the battery life.
oh, and WELCOME TO THE BLACKSTONE PORTION OF THE FORUM!
thormdac said:
@all,
being an "old" xda-developer over from the artemis forums, i am awaiting my new touch hd within the next few days!
now i read through various posts from within your threads...and feel a complete novice again ( i wrote the sd-card-flashing wiki entry for artemis)...
- should i stay with the custom 6.1 rom in order to not fight with battery drains - i read plenty custom roms drain battery within a day
- tomtom seems to create a couple of worries, read the "compatible software entry on wiki for touch hd" - but according to some posts this doesnt seem to be fully upto date - does tomtom 7450 run?
any help highly appreciated!
greetz
thormdac
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Haha same thing happened to me. After being idle for like 2 years, now i find that things changed alot... there are talking about SPL HSPL USPL and nbh files... But I adore the HD its just everything you need... You will love it.
Thanx for your infos,
basically sums up what i have been collecting browsing through them threads
roms are built on *.nbh, yet i cant find anything on sd-card-flashing - does that mean it doesnt work, flashing from sd?
Greetz
Flashing from SD works fine, there are threads scattered around the forum but nothing on the wiki as yet (?). From what I gather, limitations include people reporting problems flashing from >4GB cards and Transcend cards not working. I have successfully flashed images from a SanDisk 4GB Class 2.
The image file needs to be placed in the root of a blank FAT32 formatted card (I used a blocksize of 32k), with the filename of "BLACIMG.nbh", then perform a hard-reset by powering on the device while holding the Vol Down button.
I use TomTom Ver 7.450 with absolutely no problems on Dutty's V2.6 ROM in landscape mode. However, there is an issue with the latest radio ver 1.13.25.24, which is what I am using. The satellite signal strength bars do not display anymore, but TomTom gets a great, fast fix with this radio ROM. This is apparently due to the fact that the new Radio ROM has opened up more channels for the GPS receiver and the ver of TomTom I am using can't cope with this. It has been reported to work well with later versions of TomTom.
Hope this helps.
battery will be a problem... :-(
Dear friend,
I have the HD since November. I still have not switched to a cooked rom. I am enjoying it as is for now! But as far as battery is concerned I confirm that the battery drains very fast with the official rom. Especially if you use wifi or 3g connection (even in stand by) it drains in about 12hrs! Actually I intended to look in the forum for this ...
Apart from that, TF3D is buggy (especially with the mp3 player). Compared to the iphone it is much slower and less stable. You can expect that since iphone is unix flavor and wm6 is microsoft(!). But it has great many advantages overall making it an excellent choice at least for me.
Enjoy!
GPS navigation
I forgot. I use MN 7.3.1, for Europe I think it is the best...
Welcome too this part of the forum =)
First of all I'd like to reply on the flashing bit.
When I got my HD, the battery drianed within a day, but that was mostly because I played alot with it:
(internet using hdspa, phoning, trying games, programs and etc.)
These days I have Dutty's ROM 2.3Xtreme with the new 1.13.25.24 radio with some special settings in the program "Advanced Configuration".
Settings like "shutdown HDSPA after 1 minute of non-usage".
And "sync mail every 15 minutes between 6AM and 0AM".
Furthermore I keep on using Memmaid 2.2 which is a program that deletes cached files which reduce the usage of your ROM (don't know if it helps but it will make your HD way faster after you used it).
I use Tomtom 7 and it works great!
I think you'll experience the same batterydrains the first few days because you won't be able to lay it down and keep it still.
If you're not happy with the stock ROM, functionalities and so forth, you should reconsider flashing it.
Good luck with it!
grmbl,
that really makes me wonder,
is it worth paying a really good bargain 475 euros,
...and dumping my p3300, which under normal use lasts me 5-7 days, flight-mode overnight, flawlessly running any tomtom version and these days valuing in at about a mere 100 euros...and a machine which is simply an all day device i dont have to worry too much about- and be able to simply use it (accepting a shake and a bump here and there)...thats somehow not far away from why i dumped the iphone....well, lets see when it gets here...
greetz
Using flightmode overnight should increase your batterylife with a few hours.
Max. a half day.
Is there any newbie flashing gudie somewhere, and if i flash it, how do i get back teh original one? Any rom got "flip-it" buildt in? SMS in landscape mode?
drgregur said:
Is there any newbie flashing gudie somewhere, and if i flash it, how do i get back teh original one? Any rom got "flip-it" buildt in? SMS in landscape mode?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
All your questions are answered in full glorious details in the ROM section. As for flip it, Dutty's new ROMs use it. Other ROMs have landscape mode enabled as well, although it may be with various other methods.
howdy,
my mind is made up - i am gonna keep the touch hd!
now, before killing my custom firmware, how does dutty compare to miri, rom-wise?
and, havin had that battery drain in many of them cooked roms over at the artemis forums as well, what is the latest OFFICIAL radio rom? is there an extracted download?
in the times when drains occured in the artemis roms, some "researchers" went into testing labs, and found out that all drains resulted from a constant "polling" of the radio for a signal, whereas the original radio version decreased its polling ratio once a signal was found!
this concludes that after flashing a standalone radio rom with an official version, drains faded drastically!
Thanx for your guys help,
greetz
I got my HD2 around 2 months ago. After some intense fiddling with it in the beginning, I installed one of the Energy ROM versions available back then, and my HD2 could keep working for 2 consecutive days without recharging. Granted, I didn't use too many apps back then, and neither did I make a large number of phone calls... BUT that doesn't mean the phone was in sleep mode the whole time.
Having a fully recharged phone last Saturday morning I decided to see how long it'll hold. I tried to use it as little as possible (this still leaves background tasks, but I'll get to that later). It held up reasonably for the whole Saturday, and at the end of the day I still had something around ~60% battery.
So I locked the phone and went to bed.
And when I woke up, the phone was at 25%. After taking a shower, it was at 20%. The phone wasn't hot (which would indicate that some process is hogging all the CPU), and the Task Manager showed nothing out of the ordinary.
Now, about the only background tasks I've ever been running were Parlingo and Lumos... and I didn't even install Lumos after the last ROM update.
What can I do to diagnose this problem? Is the battery dying? Is the power info incorrect and I was getting false readings entire Saturday? Is this the ROM? What can I do to make sure?
Rule out the battery cheaply by purchasing an eBay replacement... I have 3 of these and they are good stable batteries... and cheap...
LINKY...
Shaamaan said:
Now, about the only background tasks I've ever been running were Parlingo and Lumos... and I didn't even install Lumos after the last ROM update.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you mean that Lumos is still running as a background task when it isn't installed, or that you always used to have it running before the problem?
rp-x1 said:
Do you mean that Lumos is still running as a background task when it isn't installed, or that you always used to have it running before the problem?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry for the late reply (work work work)...
I mean that I used to have Lumos installed, but in order to try to pinpoint the source of the fast battery drain, I decided not to install it when I upgraded Energy.
I'll try some batteries, sure... But if there are any solutions that I could try and which are free, then I'd rather try those first...
Shaamaan said:
Sorry for the late reply (work work work)...
I mean that I used to have Lumos installed, but in order to try to pinpoint the source of the fast battery drain, I decided not to install it when I upgraded Energy.
I'll try some batteries, sure... But if there are any solutions that I could try and which are free, then I'd rather try those first...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just wondering which radio are you using ?
I did have the same problem like you and it just keep getting faster that my battery wont even last me over a night .
What i did was i reflash it back to the stock rom with the radio that came with the stock one. I used it for a day and see when its stable , I Flash my radio to 2.10 and till now I am good . Btw I am using energy rom as well.
If your battery is lasting 24hours, then there is nothing wrong with the battery.
reborn_hi said:
Just wondering which radio are you using ?
I did have the same problem like you and it just keep getting faster that my battery wont even last me over a night .
What i did was i reflash it back to the stock rom with the radio that came with the stock one. I used it for a day and see when its stable , I Flash my radio to 2.10 and till now I am good . Btw I am using energy rom as well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I went back to 2.07. I figured the voice quality is OK enough while the 3G towers in Poland are sucky to begin with, meaning 3G switching / range isn't a real issue.
With the 17th July Energy ROM everything seems to have went back to normal.
So you did flash, and you are running WP7 on your HD2.
Now the battery dies quick?
Firstly, download this ROM and flash it: (google your ass to find out how its done, dont ask me )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941905
Its a custom ROM by football. Works amazing. Better than original ROM or the Moonlight (another custom rom) shiite you're planning on running.
After you have this ROM (or even if you dont have this ROM) if you take care of the follwing things, you will get HUGE battery life.
1. Fix the indicator by installing Registry editor, charge your battery to full and follow following steps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933751
Thanks arkatis!
2. See that you have a new sd card, not the one which came with your hd2 orignially, buy a new one, any branded one should do, and rplace it with the older card and in your phone go to: settings> about phone> hard reset
These two steps will really show a massive imprvement in your battery life.
(google tom xap deployer, registry editor xap for wp7 hd2, chevron unlocker)
Are you able to list even one of the performance difference's between this rom and the Moonlight rom?
i think moonlight is good at battery back up .... more than 24 hours used now ...
mickfarr said:
Are you able to list even one of the performance difference's between this rom and the Moonlight rom?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well, for astarters, ml has a higher call drop rate, the voice quality over the call isnt all that great either, im on x.12 radio, and its not able to use the radio perfectly - this same problem is not there on footballs rom.
Another bug is while recieving calls, sometimes, when you click "answer" it automatically puts you on speaker phone! Its scary when you dont want others to know who just called. (happened twice on ml)
gps lock took nearly 5 minutes on ml, on footballs rom it snaps on in less than 30 seconds.
thats why i had to switch to hd2 1.00
Odd how I haven't had any of those problems. Anyway there is no difference between this rom and footballs rom. The tools to make any of those kind of fixes aren't out yet. The only kind of change you'll find is simple things like different keyboards or installed apps.
reflux21 said:
well, for astarters, ml has a higher call drop rate, the voice quality over the call isnt all that great either, im on x.12 radio, and its not able to use the radio perfectly - this same problem is not there on footballs rom.
Another bug is while recieving calls, sometimes, when you click "answer" it automatically puts you on speaker phone! Its scary when you dont want others to know who just called. (happened twice on ml)
gps lock took nearly 5 minutes on ml, on footballs rom it snaps on in less than 30 seconds.
thats why i had to switch to hd2 1.00
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You answered the wrong question. He asked for "performance difference".
mickfarr said:
Are you able to list even one of the performance difference's between this rom and the Moonlight rom?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I did both, but there is no improvement in battery life. lasts less than 12h as before...
I will try the hard reset part when my new SD card arrives
Hold on there a sec, top be clear buying a new SD card might not work at all!!
If you dont have lots of cash or you dont have another use for the SD card please dont go spead money on something that may not work!
Not all cards, even within teh same brand and model will work!
and the reg fix doesnt improve battery life, it just lets you know what you have left, most issues with apparent high consumption are because a your phone isnt fully charged yet windows reports it so, apply reg fix once charged, restart and charge again you may been to repeat process, and to check use the HYC battery tool, try it pluged in and unplugged and you may notice a difference, if you do, restart and plug back in again to charge the remaining battery
I am using Moonlight atm..and with calls/sms and wifing i get utleast 1 and a half day..I use my tweak everytime i charge the phone and seems alright!
I am so obsessed with WP7 so i maybe get an official WP7 mobile..i am thinking of Omnia 7..Looks good!
reflux21 said:
2. See that you have a new sd card, not the one which came with your hd2 orignially, buy a new one, any branded one should do, and rplace it with the older card and in your phone go to: settings> about phone> hard reset
These two steps will really show a massive imprvement in your battery life.
(google tom xap deployer, registry editor xap for wp7 hd2, chevron unlocker)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I actually got the best battery life with the card that came with my HD2.... I've tried 8 different cards with wp7, too... most of them bought recently. Just buying a new card doesn't mean it will work with WP7. Your best chance of getting a good working card it to get a class 2 sandisk with part# ending in A11M.
reflux21 said:
2. See that you have a new sd card, not the one which came with your hd2 orignially, buy a new one, any branded one should do, and rplace it with the older card and in your phone go to: settings> about phone> hard reset
These two steps will really show a massive imprvement in your battery life.
(google tom xap deployer, registry editor xap for wp7 hd2, chevron unlocker)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I only seen this now! This just proves you haven't a clue what you are talking about!!
I'm using the Moonlight-Rom and I tried the last Radios (2.12, 2.15, 2.14)
And the winner is 2.14 - used the phone a lot (games used Wifi...) and after 12h I've still 25% left.
With the other Radios I had to charge it after 9houres because it ran out of battery without using it that much only some SMS!
Lord Raque said:
I'm using the Moonlight-Rom and I tried the last Radios (2.12, 2.15, 2.14)
And the winner is 2.14 - used the phone a lot (games used Wifi...) and after 12h I've still 25% left.
With the other Radios I had to charge it after 9houres because it ran out of battery without using it that much only some SMS!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey,
at least we could talk in german, but the others should be able to understand our conversation
I also tried many Radio Roms and my fav is 2.12, bu to be honest I only tried 2.10 2.12 and 2.15.
Do you really think, that the 2.14 is better than the 2.12?
Ja dann machen wir das in deutsch... ;-)
Yes The first Rom I tried was 2.15 (it was already installed - previous rom)
Then I read that 2.12 is working very good and because my phone needs to be charged after less than half a day (using 2.15) I tried 2.12 - but I still had the same problem.
Thats why I decided to use a other Radio! And it seems to work!
Maybe it depends on the phones too?
I dont't know - Try and Error....
I too don't think the registry battery fix works. First time I ever installed WM7 ROM was football's and never changed it. Tried the battery fix a few times with no luck.
Had Radio 2.15 and downgraded to 2.12 with no luck. I see some have improvement with 2.14.
I took out my SIM card yesterday to try if SD card "helps" in battery drain. Left wifi on and played with internet for a bit. This morning it had like 90%+ battery left in it. So it's not the SD card. IMO Radio is the major culprit for the battery drain.
I'll try 2.14 tonight.
iBimmer said:
I too don't think the registry battery fix works. First time I ever installed WM7 ROM was football's and never changed it. Tried the battery fix a few times with no luck.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is what I am feeling too! In an other forum I read, that it could be helpful to release the battery for 60s before charging it. But I don't want to do this every time I charge my phone
iBimmer said:
I too don't think the registry battery fix works.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Right, tried that too but there are no changes and if I check the battery with the HTC battery tool after charging it is 100% charged....
Lord Raque said:
the HTC battery tool
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What is that for a tool?
Found it somewhere here.... @ XDA