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Lovely NBD draining the living s* out of my battery :(

Dear mobile friends,
Recently i have installed NBD on my MDA vario t-mobile Aku2 phone.
I like it alot!
For the chef cook who made this wonderful recipe, A big thanks for all the effort!
I do have one little question...my battery is empty after one day
Any idea how to fix this¿
Thanks in advance.
Regards, Rogier.

mobile-eenheid said:
Dear mobile friends,
Recently i have installed NBD on my MDA vario t-mobile Aku2 phone.
I like it alot!
For the chef cook who made this wonderful recipe, A big thanks for all the effort!
I do have one little question...my battery is empty after one day
Any idea how to fix this¿
Thanks in advance.
Regards, Rogier.
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get a different phone?

Are you saying your battery is dead 1 day after continuously having this program activated? If so, I'm amazed the battery lasted that long! How old is your device and battery? Does the battery charge o.k. when it's plugged to a charger?

Hi Hotdog,
Thanks for your reply.
My device is 1 year old and the battery drains even when the phone is inactive(battery charges just fine).
Before installing NBD, the battery lasted like 3 days (not really an active user of the phone) and now only 1 day.
Am i the only person experiencing this issue around the forums??
Device info:
ROM version 6.6.6.666 WWE
ROM date 8/23/07
RADIO version 02.19.11
Protocol version 4.1.1309
MDA Vario T-mobile AKU2 model.
Thx.

mobile-eenheid said:
Hi Hotdog,
Thanks for your reply.
My device is 1 year old and the battery drains even when the phone is inactive(battery charges just fine).
Before installing NBD, the battery lasted like 3 days (not really an active user of the phone) and now only 1 day.
Am i the only person experiencing this issue around the forums??
Device info:
ROM version 6.6.6.666 WWE
ROM date 8/23/07
RADIO version 02.19.11
Protocol version 4.1.1309
MDA Vario T-mobile AKU2 model.
Thx.
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Ive seen many people with this problem. all I can suggest to you is, lower rom numbers on WM6 use up the battery faster. I dont know why that is but that is the trend.
Im not suggesting you go out there and get 2.69 radio rom. the higher you go the more unstable the rom is. all Im saying is, it might be the radio rom mixed with WM6. try a reflash back to wm5 and see if battery is back to 3 days.
One other thing you can try is drain the battery completely, recharge it fully, drain it a second time and recharge it fully again. sometimes when you flash the battery memory gets messed up, it's happened to me once.

elmetal said:
Ive seen many people with this problem. all I can suggest to you is, lower rom numbers on WM6 use up the battery faster. I dont know why that is but that is the trend.
Im not suggesting you go out there and get 2.69 radio rom. the higher you go the more unstable the rom is. all Im saying is, it might be the radio rom mixed with WM6. try a reflash back to wm5 and see if battery is back to 3 days.
One other thing you can try is drain the battery completely, recharge it fully, drain it a second time and recharge it fully again. sometimes when you flash the battery memory gets messed up, it's happened to me once.
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Thanks for the reply elmetal!
That brings me to my second question,
Is there a Radio ROM out there for my T-mobile that is stable and runs smooth under NBD 8.0?
What comes after RADIO version 02.19.11? 2.69 radio rom?
I did actually flash back to the original T-mobile NL ROM (latest version)
And there the battery is functioning as expected.
(you can really tell, in the afternoon, the battery is almost at 50% with NBD)
Thank you so much for your help! really appreciated.

mobile-eenheid said:
Thanks for the reply elmetal!
That brings me to my second question,
Is there a Radio ROM out there for my T-mobile that is stable and runs smooth under NBD 8.0?
What comes after RADIO version 02.19.11? 2.69 radio rom?
I did actually flash back to the original T-mobile NL ROM (latest version)
And there the battery is functioning as expected.
(you can really tell, in the afternoon, the battery is almost at 50% with NBD)
Thank you so much for your help! really appreciated.
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hmm.. I never focus much on tmobile users with radio problems, more cingular users. some say the 2.47 works, some say the 2.69 is flawless, I personally use the cingular 2.25.11. it's the stock cingular rom and it works fine.
Im gonna give the forum a good look for tmobile radio rom threads and ill redirect you
I suggest you try the cingular 2.25.11 (being that tmobile in the us uses a lot of cingular towers) since its really really stable.
EDIT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314235&highlight=t+mobile+radio+rom
try that, its a decent thread on the ROM workin in the UK, Im not exactly sure where you're stationed but the point is this, there's probably an existing thread out there.
Only thing is, many different people have many different results. Updating Radio ROMs is a little dangerous for me cus the calls I receive can be very important so I try not to mess with it.
Install a new radio rom, leave your phone in standby for a few hours and test texting and calling to see if itll wake up on its own, some roms wont work well. trial and error
Goodluck!

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hmm.. I never focus much on tmobile users with radio problems, more cingular users. some say the 2.47 works, some say the 2.69 is flawless, I personally use the cingular 2.25.11. it's the stock cingular rom and it works fine.
Im gonna give the forum a good look for tmobile radio rom threads and ill redirect you
I suggest you try the cingular 2.25.11 (being that tmobile in the us uses a lot of cingular towers) since its really really stable.
EDIT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314235&highlight=t+mobile+radio+rom
try that, its a decent thread on the ROM workin in the UK, Im not exactly sure where you're stationed but the point is this, there's probably an existing thread out there.
Only thing is, many different people have many different results. Updating Radio ROMs is a little dangerous for me cus the calls I receive can be very important so I try not to mess with it.
Install a new radio rom, leave your phone in standby for a few hours and test texting and calling to see if itll wake up on its own, some roms wont work well. trial and error
Goodluck!
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Point taken
Will do some more research on Tmobile Dutch(Netherlands) Radio Roms to see if that helps.
Thanks for all the effort elmetal!

Nope it's not the Radio Rom 2.19 is the most stable and loses less energy.
The 2.69 radio Has more problems keeping the signal so it uses more energy to maintain the signal, and of course you might lose some calls here and there.
Earlier posts do indeed have the classic basic Battery drain tips.
But what about deleting the items from the Windows\StartUp folder?
Flash a fully loaded battery.
How about borowing my new battery and see if it makes a difference since my wizard is on repair.
Some users even have reported that 8.2 actually was better on the battery then 8.3.
Some believe that it might have something to do with the memory leak problem most Wizard roms have issues with. Keeping more memory reffreshed does require more power. So try to set the weather plug in to only update mannualy set the homescreen to not time out. Or try setting up the included smartskey to overclock instead of Battery status althought i don't think that battery status causes isseus.
Or do a Combo. Drain the battery recharge it perform a hard reset or clear storage. You could also try a lower pagepool rom version, nowadays you can change the pagepool without reflashing. Lower is slower but again it uses less memory. You could also use wizard registry wizard to change the font cache to lower setting and other cache settings.
My advice is to charge as less as possible as my USB connector got ****ed.
I tried the 25.11 on T-mobile network but quit using it as it either froze the ROM or could just not connect.
Or yes you could get another phone
Also make sure you change the settings of the network registry to not automaticly scanning for the network.

elmetal said:
Ive seen many people with this problem. all I can suggest to you is, lower rom numbers on WM6 use up the battery faster. I dont know why that is but that is the trend.
Im not suggesting you go out there and get 2.69 radio rom. the higher you go the more unstable the rom is. all Im saying is, it might be the radio rom mixed with WM6. try a reflash back to wm5 and see if battery is back to 3 days.
One other thing you can try is drain the battery completely, recharge it fully, drain it a second time and recharge it fully again. sometimes when you flash the battery memory gets messed up, it's happened to me once.
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I have a MDA and I am running WM6 and using the 2.69.11 radio and I have no problems. I found that changing the task manager settings so that the program actually closes when you click x helps increase free ram and also, don't use any overclocker software such as battery status(it kills your battery and it doesnt make that much of a difference anyways...). Another thing you want to do is disable the today timeout under today settings. that tends to use more ram and thus, kills the battery faster.

See i knew i wasn't crazy about the today timeout
Thanks for the confirm.

I had the same problem with I upgraded to 8.1. Battery drain was pretty bad.. Usually getting home from work, I'd still be in the 90's with moderate texting, but with 8.1 i'd be in like the 50's. I just went back to 7.9.

The problem isn't the ROM... it's the audio manager from HTC, that sucker eats battery like I've never seen... been having this issue too, until I stoped using the audio manager and started using windows media player!

dferreira said:
The problem isn't the ROM... it's the audio manager from HTC, that sucker eats battery like I've never seen... been having this issue too, until I stoped using the audio manager and started using windows media player!
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Same here i (as in i didn't actually notice it) but i stopped using the audio manager in favour of WMP as it gave better reactions to using the Stereo Bluetooth headset. As in Audio manager sometimes did not pick up the next and previous commands or would stop playing.
As i said i never really paid attention and i can only speculate that the battery drained faster when i did use Audiomanager.
Just goes to show that closing apps completely is always the best practice.
BTW, dferreira.
Ai's it Funny how one month after your WM5SE release people actually reacted after my post
What is your reason to use WM5 base?

WM5 is the native OS for Wizards... so, I find it to be more quick than WM6... Never gave me problems, like WM6 did. WM6 is just a face lift on WM5 so... I'm trying to make it as good as WM6 but quicker

Noonski....
You are my sunshine, my only sunshine
You make me happy when skies are gray
You'll never know dear how much I love you
Please don't take my sunshine away
Battery drain solved by flashing to NBD 8.0!!(¿)
Thanks for all the effort mobile friends!

mobile-eenheid said:
Noonski....
You are my sunshine, my only sunshine
You make me happy when skies are gray
You'll never know dear how much I love you
Please don't take my sunshine away
Battery drain solved by flashing to NBD 8.0!!(¿)
Thanks for all the effort mobile friends!
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What build were you having a problem to begin with?
BTW you should see Alban's Touch running on 312MHZ with 12 MB Pagepool.
It Fliesszzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Battery starting to put off my HD2 love :/

Hello..I am an overall very excited HTC HD2 user but i am having huge battery problems which is why i am asking for your insights In general if phone is idle it can go as far as 35 hours straight without any charging.But when i start playing around with it, browse menus , look through settings,launch apps e.t.c the battery drains like mad..sometimes even 3% in 10 minutes..
i do not know what could be the cause of this in particular since listening to mp3, watching movies does not chalk down too much power,i can even say i was slightly happy in that area(consumption and quality wise)..
so far i have done the below..
-hard reseted
-got a brilliant new mmc (transcend 8gb class 6 FTW )
-flight mode only during nights
-bsb tweaks
-some of the tweaks mentioned in the registry tweak for battery thread (not mmc ones, read alot about data corruption risks)
-tested battery (output voltage and mah are fine and it only gets warm after 3 hours of constant ndrive use-which is normal)
-i never installed anywhere else besides phone memory(apps/games)
-virus free
-i have no data plan so 3g/hsdpa access is not a possibility(also deactivated all connections from NoData app)
-disabled all auto update app functions(weather,footprints, my location ,time e.t.c)
the only possible deal i can figure out its to blame is the radio rom..
As i said earlier i am very interested in hearing your thoughts,comments,suggestions on my issue..Thanks for hearing me out
specs
manila : 2.5.19211619
Rom : 1.66.482.1 (gr) - official
radio rom : 2.06.51.07

do you use msn live?

i have the SAME EXACT problem, i do NOT have any apps running, i always use cleanram, every apps always get terminated.
as soon as i TOUCH my phone, the battery drains, this battery is rediculous, i have BsB tweaks with powersaving, i dont beleive how you guys get a full day out of this crappy battery when mine doesnt last 10 hours with just texing/and web browsing. im on my third battery replacement, i conditioned my battery three times and STILL the same problem, i feel like braking this phone in half, im using my blackberry bold 9700 now which lasts me 3 days with FULL usage ALL day, my hd2 is about to see the hammer soon

try flashing it to another rom
I stepped from stock rom to artemis and I use my HD2 often but with the stock rom i didn't even came to the middle of the day but with that artemis rom i can get till next day morning without charging plus it's very stable and i almost never do a soft reset and i use this artemis rom about a month now and i didn't even do a hard reset after flashing
sorry for my english hope you understand me

My HD2 will last 2 days constant usage. This includes web surfing and emails being pulled down all day via exchange.
The battery goes down quick to about 30% and will stay around there for ages.

Baker0 said:
do you use msn live?
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No sir...and when i do i shut it down via resco task manager.. :/
Finezt said:
try flashing it to another rom
I stepped from stock rom to artemis and I use my HD2 often but with the stock rom i didn't even came to the middle of the day but with that artemis rom i can get till next day morning without charging plus it's very stable and i almost never do a soft reset and i use this artemis rom about a month now and i didn't even do a hard reset after flashing
sorry for my english hope you understand me
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I hear good things about artemis as well but i am afraid i am not up to the flashing challenge..too much of a chicken to play russian rulette worth 680 euros :3 (in case i break something)

just for a test select sign in with a different account so it wipes your details amd reset, use your phone normally and dont use live see how that gets on.
I had my phone running for 2 - 3 days of medium use. as soon as i signed up for live it was lasting less that a day even if i used task manager. I then wiped my details then it was back to normal again.

chris2busy said:
No sir...and when i do i shut it down via resco task manager.. :/
I hear good things about artemis as well but i am afraid i am not up to the flashing challenge..too much of a chicken to play russian rulette worth 680 euros :3 (in case i break something)
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With Artemis you can hardly go wrong. It does not flash your radio only the OS part, you do not have to use HSPL but SSPL which is far easier to perform. It's all explained on the Artemis thread itself: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612580
regards, Kuzibri
BTW, if anything should go wrong, almost impossible with Artemis ROM's, then you can always flash back one of the original stock ROM.s from HTC itself (1.66 or 1.72)

kuzibri said:
With Artemis you can hardly go wrong. It does not flash your radio only the OS part, you do not have to use HSPL but SSPL which is far easier to perform. It's all explained on the Artemis thread itself:
regards, Kuzibri
BTW, if anything should go wrong, almost impossible with Artemis ROM's, then you can always flash back one of the original stock ROM.s from HTC itself (1.66 or 1.72)
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hmmm...this is actually interesting...the artemis post seems to be fairly close to stock rom...BUT..if i backup all stuff i got now, will the usual apps (spb backup e.t.c) store everything?like e.g pc imaging apps(acronis true image , paragon drive backup) ? and if they do...and something goes wrong i can restore from pc even if hd2 becomes unbootable?
i really wish there was something simpler than me meddling with flashing :S im more into-system knowledge oriented guy :S

Baker0 said:
just for a test select sign in with a different account so it wipes your details amd reset, use your phone normally and dont use live see how that gets on.
I had my phone running for 2 - 3 days of medium use. as soon as i signed up for live it was lasting less that a day even if i used task manager. I then wiped my details then it was back to normal again.
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done...will report changes tomorrow..

chris2busy said:
hmmm...this is actually interesting...the artemis post seems to be fairly close to stock rom...BUT..if i backup all stuff i got now, will the usual apps (spb backup e.t.c) store everything?like e.g pc imaging apps(acronis true image , paragon drive backup) ? and if they do...and something goes wrong i can restore from pc even if hd2 becomes unbootable?
i really wish there was something simpler than me meddling with flashing :S im more into-system knowledge oriented guy :S
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I understand your "reluctance" to flash a new ROM, but to be honest if you go wrong with flashing Artemis Rom, you will probably never will be ready/equippped to flash a new ROM. Flashing a Artemis ROM is as easy as it can be!
regards, Kuzibri

^_^ i turned down the backlight to 20% and noticed an improvement in battery life.

dracd said:
^_^ i turned down the backlight to 20% and noticed an improvement in battery life.
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mine is set to 30% and with auto backlight off..its the ideal for my taste actually, even for the sunniest mornings
The WLmessenger change did not bear any fruits..i squeezed out all its batt to just see any time difference but nada..
Oh well, i might probably have to get over myself and start the flashing frenzy(i hear its quite addicting )
Byt the by , there is supposed to be a WWE version of 1.7.x this month i believe..maybe i will start with that and if it gets me nowhere Artemis here i come!

i'm just waiting for a 1500 capacity battery... which is all i need...
running full power and and heavy use... i manage to make it home to charge... but still... i would much rather have a bigger battery to avoid some worrying...
1500 would be soo perfect.. that accessory alone would add an extra 3-4 hours of life on my phone.. which would be more then enough...

chris2busy said:
there is supposed to be a WWE version of 1.7.x this month i believe..maybe i
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Hopefully it comes out soon, but I'm tempted to try Artemis at the moment.

By the way i have 1 weird question about all those ROMs..Are they created from scratch from their makers or are they just modified/edited/tweaked versions of the original OS (ROM) that shipped with the phone?

I ordered a battery bundle with a wall charger, 2X1200mh batteries and a Mirco USB wire for $14 bucks. This is my first full smartphone so its hard for me to get used to the battery life.

I turned off all communications to flight mode. Yet my HD2 battery power keeps dropping fast. I dont have this problem with all my previous windows phone. Whats wrong? I'm using factory rom

malisha1 said:
I ordered a battery bundle with a wall charger, 2X1200mh batteries and a Mirco USB wire for $14 bucks. This is my first full smartphone so its hard for me to get used to the battery life.
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yea the hd2's minimal battery life is something that i never had to deal with before also... (i've owned other smartphones but usually could last 2-3 days with moderate to heavy use...) but then again.. i never had a smartphone like the hd2 before
regardless... i'm not sure if i'd be willing to carry 2 batteries around with me... granted i could just leave it in my car until its needed.. but i guess i just consider it a extra thing to remember before i go inside my house/ an extra step to complete before i sleep... would much rather have just one 1500mh

Battery Drain
Do you guys experiencing battery drain have Co0kies Home Tab installed?
There is a known battery drain issue with CHT if .NET version 3.5.9198.0 is not installed. The battery drain will disappear when 3.5.9198.0 replaces .Net 3.5.7xxx.
Don't forget to update the registry to activate the new version and deactivate version 2 or earlier version of 3.5!
Co0kieMonster said:
Some users have had trouble with the battery drain.
I've now added this solution to the first post.
About battery drain:
There is an incompatibility with older versions of the .Net framework that can cause the battery to drain too quickly.
If you have this issue download the latest .Net version from here and install it on your device.
Even if you don't have the issue, it's always good to have the latest .Net version installed.
Big thanks to mike2nl for providing this solution, and to MichelDiamond for tracking the issue while I was away.
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The Long & Winding Road To Android 2.2 on HD2

If you're like me, a subpar or incomplete Android 2.2 on HD2 experience was NOT an option. I've been through pretty much every combination, followed everyone's advice and always ended up unhappy for one of several reasons :
1. The ROM I installed was missing features, like the camera or other features that crashed.
2. The dreaded "Sleep of Death"
Not to say anything against any of the ROM chefs, because these guys are hard-working geniuses and they do this for free... for us...
But having said that, I had to keep trying. I'm obsessive compulsive when it comes to my gadgets and once I had a taste of Android on the HD2, I knew I wouldn't be happy until I found that elusive combination that made it work the way I wanted it to.
If you're having trouble making Android work on your HD2, listen up... Because now mine works like a charm and here's how it happened...
1. You absolutely HAVE to get rid of the stock Windows Mobile 6.5 that comes on your HD2. I never found a way around that. Until I flashed a custom ROM, it never worked 100%. To do this you need to flash HSPL to your HD2. This allows the installation of custom ROMs.
2. You have to strip Windows Mobile down to next to nothing. If you plan on using Android 2.2 as your daily operating system, you don't need it anyway. I tried lots of versions, but face it - you won't need WinMo anymore once you get Android working 100%. For this, use Chuckydroid, hands down. It is stripped down to next to nothing - no Sense 2.5, nothing fancy in Windows Mobile. BARE. BONES. Chuckydroid can also be set up to autoboot into Android!
3. After installing Chuckydroid, I also flashed Radio 2.15 just to have the latest radio. I've heard people talk against it, but again - I'm working 100%, so I'm happy.
4. For my Android ROM, I chose Mdj revolution 1.5, and updated to the S1 Linux kernel. It was one of few builds that had all features working as they should. The S1 kernel patches a lot of issues that might arise with the MDJ build.
5. Lastly, I noticed I didn't have 3G signal after all this and discovered that at some point my APN information (which tells the phone how to connect to data services) had been wiped out. I am a TMoUSA customer, so I found the information for the USA servers and added it manually to the phone. (System/Wireless & Networks/Mobile Networks/Access Point Names)
I know this isn't every piece of information you need, but if you read each point and investigate on your own, you'll find there's a wealth of information out there to guide you through each step, but to clarify :
1. Flash HSPL (I used HSPL 3, but follow the directions when you find it)
2. Install Chuckydroid (No other custom ROM worked and I tried them all)
3. Flash Radio 2.15
4. MDJ Revolution 1.5 w/ S1 kernel (Most stable and complete I could find)
5. Manually configure APN
Again I'll close with the fact that I have a fully-working Android 2.2 HD2 device. All features, all functions, no errors, no robot voice, no SOD, no gremlins... It just works. Good luck! If you have any additions to this plan, let me know! I'd like to know that I was using the newest 100% WORKING(!!!) Android built with all the best features.

I'd also like to add that, given my luck, now that it's taken me over a week to get Android 2.2 working flawlessly on my HD2, in the next day or so we'll see one of four things :
1. A flashable Android 2.2 ROM that completely replaces WinMo as the Operating system
2. A flashable Android 2.3 (3.0) Gingerbread ROM
3. A flashable Windows Phone 7 ROM
4. The return of Christ

Zaron3d said:
4. The return of Christ
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That's it That's all...

funny
before 1,2,3,4 you can also try:
0. replace kernel with s2 also made by mdeejay. they say it's very good
thinking better i don't belive this thread belong to this section

noris08 said:
funny
before 1,2,3,4 you can also try:
0. replace kernel with s2 also made by mdeejay. they say it's very good
thinking better i don't belive this thread belong to this section
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Well I tried a lot of these "quick shortcuts" to make things work and nothing did. Believe me, I've been down every road to make this happen...
and yeah I guess I put this in the wrong section now that I look at it. Sorry!

Yep, this thread have to be moved into the Android General Discussions section.
Just let me know if you have a constantly data transfer on on your "working-like-charm" Leo and I'll immediately flash ChuckyROM (which version?), 'cause I've tried EVERYTHING, my battery lasts 3,5/4 hours running Android and I have to recharge it twice everyday...

vysus said:
Yep, this thread have to be moved into the Android General Discussions section.
Just let me know if you have a constantly data transfer on on your "working-like-charm" Leo and I'll immediately flash ChuckyROM (which version?), 'cause I've tried EVERYTHING, my battery lasts 3,5/4 hours running Android and I have to recharge it twice everyday...
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try this combo:
- wm - energy nov 8 21684 cht 1.8.5
- radio - 2.15
- android - mdeejay revolution 1.5
- kernel - mdeejay s2
i have only 6% battery drop over 9 hours of standby, all data transfers closed and gsm only, not 3g
all things i tested works flawless

i think you missed the most important thing...
--> hard format your SD card before trying
Camillo

Format or not the SD makes non differences, I have huge battery drain in every situation.
I've had several issues running mdeejay builds, so I prefer FroyoStone 3.2 by Darkstone. I've never tried Chucky ROMs before, so I'd like to flash the brand new one

@camillo
no i didn't forget format card. i just don't do that, formatted first time and never again since then
@vysus
do whatever you want. i just suggested a combo that works very well for me

noris08 said:
@vysus
do whatever you want. i just suggested a combo that works very well for me
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You're welcome
Unfortunately, NRG ROMs and PPP builds are not suitables for italian providers: using the first ones I had battery drain, trying the seconds I have had continuos data drops, missed calls & SMS, HUGE and nearly incredible battery drain.
I still would like to know which version of Chucky fits better with android, it's the last chance, after that I prefer to let go...

i think an correctly configured setcpu is the most important fact for battery life.
my combo:
winmob:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793814
radio: 2.12.50
Droid: hyperdroid 1.7 (nexusHD2 since yesterday cuz of new harastin kernel)
sdcard: transcent class6 sdhc
battery drain without setcpu (overnight, 8h): 40%
with : 3%

TBH I have found no difference between a fully featured winmo rom (laurentius V4 or Energy nov 8th) versus Ozdroid which was stripped down.
I have found that of course the kernel makes the most difference - currently on S2 and it seems rather peachy.
As for battery drain I have found that it is fine even without setcpu on this kernel - however - once in a while, especially at the end of the day, the battery drains super fast - I believe there is an errant process or data transfer that messes it up (perhaps whatsapp?).
I stillhowever have PPP disconnects regardless.
I haven't had one since I disabled the stock widget though.

i only have ppp disconnects if i kill all my tasks. if not, it works fine

I start off my android adventure few weeks back and now I found my treasure and have stop searching.
Here is my combination,
WM ROM: vbn clarity
Android rom: mdj froyo revolution 1.5
Kernel: mdj s2
I have tried some other build and the battery life can only last me half a day but with this combination after more than 12 hours of usage, I still have 40%. (Usage: check email every 30 mins, check xda app every 30mins, moderate web surfing, a few calls)
So for those still struggling to find the combination, you might want to try my combination. Enjoy
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

A different spin on Android Issues
I too was having issues with SOD, random freezing/rebooting, robot voice etc and basically gave up on having a usable version of Android working on my device.
But then I had a slight lapse in judgement and came up with another hair-brained idea... I decided to attempt to get T-Mobile to let me just switch to a different phone like the Galaxy S / G2 / or MyTouch 4G.
So I task 29'ed the phone, flashed back to the OEM rom, then removed HSPL while not at work... Over the next 2 hours I began to notice that I was having issues even on the default OEM rom.
I got curious, removed the SD card, re-installed HSPL, re-downloaded the T-Mobile Official Rom from their website, and task 29'ed the phone again, reinstalled the OEM rom, and removed HSPL again just to make sure that I hadn't just got a corrupt download or something.
Within 20 mins of loading the T-Mobile rom back on the phone, my phone randomly rebooted itself. Later while I was in the middle of a phone call the phone just made a weird buzzing sound and froze. The buzzing sound would not go away until I removed the battery and restarted. I was also having many of the issues I was seeing in all of the Android builds that I had tried like the screen taking forever to come back on after being locked, the screen being non-responsive etc...
I had attributed all of these problems to the Android roms I was using and Android not being 100% and stil too buggy for the HD2 when it actually was a problem with the device itself.
I went to T-Mobile last night and they are sending me a new phone (probably a refurb) by the beginning of next week. I'm hoping that the new device will clear up all of the issues.
Just thought I would share my experiences, maybe some of you that are having issues with the Android builds could actually just have a bad device like I did...

Zaron3d said:
After installing Chuckydroid, I also flashed Radio 2.15 just to have the latest radio. I've heard people talk against it, but again - I'm working 100%, so I'm happy.
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Followed your suggest, flashed latest Chucky GTX, did anything else, switched to Android, unplugghed my phone at 2.30 PM, some calls and SMS, few calls received, battery is 42%, over 10% per hour that turns to 12 and over using the device, now I'm hopeless

vysus said:
Followed your suggest, flashed latest Chucky GTX, did anything else, switched to Android, unplugghed my phone at 2.30 PM, some calls and SMS, few calls received, battery is 42%, over 10% per hour that turns to 12 and over using the device, now I'm hopeless
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Uhhh... what? It depends on what you have running I guess. Mine seems to be running fine. Off the charger for about 3 hours and only down to 90%.

Since I've just had my HD2's screen replaced, I'm still on the stock ROM from when I got the phone back from HTC. I just popped my SD card back in and off I went. The stock ROM works perfectly with Android for me. The radio is the one they installed (see sig).
I'm not sure that WM ROM has that much effect tbh. With the ppp wrapper patched and running the S2 kernal from MDJ, I managed a 320 mile trip with Google Navigate running the entire time. I never had a single data drop or problem with the phone. I was connected to my car stereo via bluetooth too.

WP7 Roms battery dead in 7 hours? Normal?

Before I get flamed I have read all the comments I can find on WP7 Rom battery tricks i.e. camera record after reboot trick, leaving 3g on etc. All Im asking is if other HD2 users are experiencing as little as 6-7 hours of battery life on WP7 roms, iv'e tried xbmod, HD20 and YukiXDA and have tried this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978101.
Phone is hardly used, no phone calls just settings and odd text message and only wifi on when using phone.
I'm gutted because I love WP7, any advice appreciated and am not trying to "Noob" up the forums I just wanted to start a dialogue with other WP7 Rom users.
Thx

Nope, that´s not normal.
There are several possible reasons for your problem. MAGLDR, Radio ROM and SPL versions are crucial. Bad flashing can happen all the time. Plus, an "incompatible" SD card can bring a hell lot of issues, too, as well as an "old" SIM card.
Anyway - I can say that under WP7, I could not reach the same battery lifetime like under WinMo 6.5 - you can more compare to Android (NAND versions). Maximum 2 days at really low usage (week-ends), 1 day with "normal" workload. I could easily double that time under WinMo 6.5.

The HD2 likes battery like i like beer.....as much as possible in the shortest amount of time.

My phone and wifes phone (exact same phone + ROM) work for about 7 hours. ive tried many different tricks, radios, ROMs and no luck. luckily at home and work i have access to charging points, so not so much of a problem. just anooying when we go travelling!

Try latest YukiXDA Rom with 3G on. My phone lasted a day and night ( few calls, texts, games (including installing) Facebook etc. Much improved.

i'm using yuki's latest and mines dead in about 7 hours also (without even using it cos i have a company phone) but some have reported 2 days , i've got the battery tool and my current is usually around -250 sometimes higher before and after camera trick but some have reported 2ma ,, i'm sure i'm using the bat tool wrong lol . gigahurtz whats your current
marty

Should i convert from WIN6.5 to Android ?

Hello all,
Firstly a big thank you to all on this site for offering such a fantastic platform to rebuild our priced gadgets to something which is more user friendly...
I aint no techie but in the past have used this site to upgrade the ROM/RADIO for my HTC HD2 phone as was constantly facing a drop in signal and the phone booting up etc...
My current details are as listed below:
OS 5.2.21913(21913.5.0.94)
Manila version 2.5.20181527.1
Rom version 3.14.161.3 (04666) WWE
Rom date 15Dec 2010
Radio version 2.15.50.14
Protocol version 15.42.50.11U
some of my queries:
- I am thinking of converting this to a complete Android OS... Is this possible on the above specs ?
- Is the benefit with Android only to do with additional applications available in the MARKET (WIN6.5 hardly has any and most are charged!) or will i get a better connectivity/signal strength and a better battery life ?
- I noticed on a few forums about a dual boot with Android on the SD card but am not keen on booting the phone every now and then.. would rather stick to one - Android or W6.5
- I do have a problem with the phone sometimes while browsing with Opera or IE. The phone heats up a lot and then just shuts off or the screen freezes and I need to open the battery slot, get the battery out, reinsert and then start the phone all over again. Its quiet sad thing and yet I love the damn phone!
I apologize in advance in case if I have posted this wrongly in this forum. Kindly point me to the right direction, as always...
Cheers!
HTC fan from India

Do it, there is a tool that can do it for you without much hassle, nice simple gui. I would suggest doing the nand android method instead of booting from sd.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

enigma075 said:
Hello all,
Firstly a big thank you to all on this site for offering such a fantastic platform to rebuild our priced gadgets to something which is more user friendly...
I aint no techie but in the past have used this site to upgrade the ROM/RADIO for my HTC HD2 phone as was constantly facing a drop in signal and the phone booting up etc...
My current details are as listed below:
OS 5.2.21913(21913.5.0.94)
Manila version 2.5.20181527.1
Rom version 3.14.161.3 (04666) WWE
Rom date 15Dec 2010
Radio version 2.15.50.14
Protocol version 15.42.50.11U
some of my queries:
- I am thinking of converting this to a complete Android OS... Is this possible on the above specs ?
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yes
- Is the benefit with Android only to do with additional applications available in the MARKET (WIN6.5 hardly has any and most are charged!)
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yes
or will i get a better connectivity/signal strength and a better battery life ?
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no
- I noticed on a few forums about a dual boot with Android on the SD card but am not keen on booting the phone every now and then.. would rather stick to one - Android or W6.5
- I do have a problem with the phone sometimes while browsing with Opera or IE. The phone heats up a lot and then just shuts off or the screen freezes and I need to open the battery slot, get the battery out, reinsert and then start the phone all over again. Its quiet sad thing and yet I love the damn phone!
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oh dear, that doesn't sound good, I'd suspect overheating leading to hardware faults. As an example I can browse and listen to music all day long with very little temperature change. Winmo or android.
I apologize in advance in case if I have posted this wrongly in this forum. Kindly point me to the right direction, as always...
Cheers!
HTC fan from India
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Summary,,, if you want to change, change, if you don't, don't. Android wont make the phone "better" but it will give you new stuff to play with.
That being said I'd be wary of too much flashing since it sounds like you have possible hardware problems on the horizon,,be a shame to get stuck in an unflashable state.

hello guys... thank you both for your encouragement... would rather flash the phone and play around with something new instead of letting it die a natural death...
Whats the latest version of the NAND ANDROID that you guys recommend ? ne links on it with a detailed description...step by step... i aint a techie remember..
thanks for the views and responses...
Cheers!

I had the same dilemma a few days ago, ended up putting on the NAND rom of android and it obviously a lot better to play around with than winmo but the battery life is not as good as with winmo on. Still lasts a couple of days on standby with a little bit of use.
The rom I would reccommend is the one I flashed, Typhoon cyanogen mod 7 without sense but every thing works perfectly on it so far.
Here's a link to it : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951
Once you have installed it set the cpu with SetCpu app to about 800 mhz and it works fine without getting overly hot.

ryan123459 said:
I had the same dilemma a few days ago, ended up putting on the NAND rom of android and it obviously a lot better to play around with than winmo but the battery life is not as good as with winmo on. Still lasts a couple of days on standby with a little bit of use.
The rom I would reccommend is the one I flashed, Typhoon cyanogen mod 7 without sense but every thing works perfectly on it so far.
Here's a link to it : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951
Once you have installed it set the cpu with SetCpu app to about 800 mhz and it works fine without getting overly hot.
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Also, by tweaking the CPU VDD levels you will provide to keep your phone colder and squeeze some more juice from the battery: you can find all the instructions on the first page of Tyween's thread (the link above).

hi there... thanks both for your response... is the version provided in your message the latest files/version that is available for download or are there any other versions to look around for ?
Before flashing I plan to save my contacts with msn mobile... it saves my contacts and sms's... will i be able to recover it in the same format after i upload android ?
noticed on some forums that gsensor is a problem... does it impact the functioning so much on android ?
One of you mentioned 'sense' will not work on android... does that mean the seamless touch that is there on w6.5 will no longer be applicable...
requesting all this information just to be double sure b4 going ahead with something major like this...
are there any video tutorials on this ? the link as so many sublinks... i am thoroughly confused...
thanks in advance for your response...

The version of android is 2.3.5, the latest version at the moment I think.
The G sensor works fine on mine I have been playing games which use the sensor.
The phone touch will work fine its just you won't have the htc customization of clocks etc.
I'm not sure about saving contacts but if you could somehow save the contacts with a Google account it would be straight forward getting them onto android.
So to sum up everything seems to work fine as it would on Android though the battery doesn't last as long, but it still lasts a considerable time for a smartphone.
If you follow the link for the Rom I posted, in there, there is a instruction document made by someone which is very easy to follow. Just follow it step by step and you should be just fine.
PS make sure you backup anything you require before starting the process.

Good Afternoon
A friend of mine wants to install Android onto his device and wants me to do it for him as he doesn't want to mess it up.
Is there any sort of idiot guide to show me how to do this, I don't think it'll be easy as when I update the ROMs on my Desire HD
Also which build would one recommend, I want something he can use wiht any issues if possible.
Thanks in advance

hi ryan,
thanks for your revert mate... and clarifying about the gsensor. When you say the standard HTC application like 'clock etc' will not be there... would that take away the weather background which I so like... is there something similar available in the android market to download at a later stage (i love the weather thing HTC has to offer)...
Never tried google to synchronize my phone contacts... is it done through USB or over the air using 2G or something like that (sorry am quiet a novice with gmail!). Will it sync my sms's too... ?
I have changed my battery and no longer use the original HTC one... as it would drain out in a few hours inspite of me using the phone sparingly. I now use a chinese battery from the last few months and it lasts me a good 1.5-2days at max...
Will my service provider in India 'Loop Mobile' be able to send me the new settings that are compatible with android ? Being a weekend I don't want to loose out on contact sync in the middle of the night if the data plan is not activated again...ne suggestions would be appreciated..

There is a clock-weather app in the market which is similar to HTC sense's.
Not sure how google sync works with winmo you would have to figure that out.
About the service proivder I can't be 100% sure as my first android rom on SD didn't work straight away with T-mobile uk but this typhoon one worked straight away, but if you had setting on winmo you should be able to get it on android.

Software Guru said:
Good Afternoon
A friend of mine wants to install Android onto his device and wants me to do it for him as he doesn't want to mess it up.
Is there any sort of idiot guide to show me how to do this, I don't think it'll be easy as when I update the ROMs on my Desire HD
Also which build would one recommend, I want something he can use wiht any issues if possible.
Thanks in advance
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Follow the link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951
and under install tutorials use the clean installation guide, which I used and it tells you step by step what to do, remember to download all the required files first which are all in the link.

Hi, use "SpriteMigrate" to transfer your sms from winmo to android.
I prefer Typhoon, here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951

hi there... i just checked up the "spritemigrate" site and they have closed their FREE BETA application... what a shame as it seemed like the perfect solution to my problem of storing sms/contacts before flashing the phone...
any other options ?
cheers and thanks for writing in mate...

hi there again... as mentioned in my earlier posts... i have sync my phone to msn mobile and hence all my contacts and sms's are backed up every night on msn... once i move to android.. will i be able to sync the phone again just as i did with w6.5 ?
I do have a gmail account but not sure if they have the feature of storing sms's along with the contacts in google mobile. I am frustrated trying to figure out an option for contacts and sms's together.. any help would be appreciated...
cheers!

Oh Lord... I am so frustrated... spent the whole afternoon trying to figure out to save contacts and sms's online somewhere before i flash my phone but sadly no luck... just realised msn-my phone service has been deactivated and most other services are paid services...
Guess this is the only thing that is stopping me now from flashing the phone inspite of downloading most of the required files...
My last attempt - any help guys ?!?!?
thanks in advance...
Cheers!

Hi Enigma075, a little off topic but watch out with flashing in case the issues that you've described get worse. The symptoms you're describing, phone heating and screen unresponsive are exactly what happened to my HD2 recently. A week or two after it started the screen became entirely unresponsive and now HTC are (hopefully) fixing it.
Have a search on google, a few other people have encountered this as well.

I recommend trying SD first.
Note that some users reported NAND android to cause bad blocks in the NAND. so if anything bad happens, you might not be able to flash windows again. Read a lot about specific NAND build before you try them.
SD builds cause bad blocks on SD card, which is easily repairable. on NAND, it's not easy, if possible.

hello Dr. Move & Wsummers,
thank you both for responding to my post. I guess I would go in for the SD first as its getting extremely frustrating to save my contacts somewhere and then put it back again on NAND plus the tension of bricking the phone completely...
Are you able to advise me on the latest link on the SD version ? Have a few questions on this method:
- Will the phone become slow in terms of usage ?
- Will I have to reload the contacts again when i boot it to the sd android mode ?
- Whats the battery response like ?
Thanks again for your insights...
Cheers!

you can use titanium backup to backup your contacts, it'll save you quite sometime. alternatively, you can export your contacts to your SD and reload them again on the SD version.
Newer SD build are quite fast in terms of usage, not as fast as the NAND, but the difference is barely noticeable.. but that depends on how you use your device. Note that some games may not work on certain SD versions.
You can try the two versions in my sig, I've tried both for more than a month, and they're quite stable.
Battery consumption in standby is low in new builds, I get around 7 mA/h when the phone is on and 3 mA/h on airplane mode. some people experience even lower values. it depends more on your SD, and the network coverage.
in hourly terms, you'll lose ~1% per hour, and ~1% every two hours on airplane mode.
if you have any problems regarding the SD version, you can check my troubleshooter (in my sig), or ask me directly