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At CES 2011 Samsung was giving away spare batteries to Samsung owners. (Thanks Samsung!)
The battery charged fine with my 3rd party wall charger (obtained with 2 spare no-name batteries via ebay), but when the new Samsung battery is in the phone and I connect my wall charger, the phone dies until the cable is removed.
Obviously, voltage is dropping below what the phone can handle while the new battery is installed and the charger is connected.
The original battery is a EB575152VA and has a black label.
The new battery is a EB575152YZ and has a blue label.
Anyone else have the same problem?
Robert
Grrr! They we're?! I wish I would've known.
Are you positive it's not your charger?
damn damn damn!! i want a spare too!
They're prolly trying to blow up your vibrant to force you to get a Nexus S
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Your 3rd party wall charger may have fubared the battery. Just an idea. Alot of 3rd party wall chargers are set to behave/charge a specific way, which can nuke newer specialized batteries if they behave different than the ones released when the aftermarket charger was (even if the new battery is for the same device). The panasonic toughbook batteries are prime examples.
A few months ago I purchased a battery charging stand and additonal battery from Verizon (I own the Vibrant). This battery has the same blue label. It functions fine in the phone but if I connect to charge, it powers off. Additionally, when I put my Vibrant battery into the Verizon charging stand, it will not charge that battery. I have searched many forums and have not found a reasonable explanation or solution. How much different can these two batteries be?
After looking up the model of the battery and poking around.
http://sunpow.forumotion.com/t207-samsung-fascinate-battery-eb575152yz
Though Verizon's Fascinate belongs to Samsung's Galaxy S series, the Fascinate uses a different battery from other Galaxy S phones like AT&T Captivate, Sprint Epic 4G and T-Mobile Vibrant. From the appearance, the Fascinate battery looks exactly the same as that of other Galaxy S Phones. But the chip inside is totally different. The Fascinate battery can't work on other Galaxy S phones, vice versa.
Both rated at 1500mAh, the Fascinate battery's OEM part number is EB575152YZ/EB575152YZBSTD, while the OEM part number for other Galaxy S phones is EB575152VA/EB575152VABSTD. Here are details of Fascinate battery:
Battery Type:Li-ION
Battery Capacity: 1500mAh
Voltage:3.7V
Weight: 33 grams
Size: 51mm x 51mmx5mm
Original battery code: EB575152YZ, EB575152YZBSTD
Compatible with Fascinate, Mesmerize, Showcase, SCH-I500
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More than likely it has something specific to do with when its mode changes for charging. The chip regulates the charge to the battery to optimize battery life and decrease efficiency loss. You can read more here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery
Yeah, I made this mistake; I bought the official Samsung external battery charger from Verizon because it was $10 cheaper than the one from Sprint.
Foolish mistake; the one from Verizon only works on the Fascinate and the Mesmerize. The one from Sprint works on the Epic 4G, the Vibrant and the Captivate, but for whatever reason, it's $50, while the Verizon one is $40.
Still, $50 for an external charger plus spare battery is better than T-Mobile US charging $45 for just the Vibrant battery!
I think you need a aftermarket charger in this case. I have got a set from china and work for different brand of battery. Luckily.
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jcsmart said:
I think you need a aftermarket charger in this case. I have got a set from china and work for different brand of battery. Luckily.
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Even with an aftermarket charger, it doesn't fix the problem with the battery being intended for the Fascinate and Mesmerize and not the Vibrant. The phone will not be stable with this battery installed.
From my experience using the blue Samsung battery: the Vibant will freeze often, and the battery gauge will not be accurate (off by +/-20% or more), the battery will drain ridiculously fast and the phone will become very hot.
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Yeah, I made this mistake; I bought the official Samsung external battery charger from Verizon because it was $10 cheaper than the one from Sprint.
Foolish mistake; the one from Verizon only works on the Fascinate and the Mesmerize. The one from Sprint works on the Epic 4G, the Vibrant and the Captivate, but for whatever reason, it's $50, while the Verizon one is $40.
Still, $50 for an external charger plus spare battery is better than T-Mobile US charging $45 for just the Vibrant battery!
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3000mAh battery for vibrant on ebay for $20... came with the extended back cover a bit different at first but I got used to it. Works great.
Sent from my smokin fast vibrant.
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I think the Samsung agent gave me a Fascinate battery instead of the one for everything else (including the Vibrant). I may just sell the Fascinate batteries on eBay.
I presume Verizon wanted a different battery to sell different accessories. I'm surprised Samsung went for it. They should have added a tab or something so the battery doesn't fit. Obviously even Samsung has trouble keeping things straight.
This is at least the second year Samsung gave away the batteries. They don't do it in the booth, but at a counter in area between the Central and North Halls, close to the Nathans/Pizza place.
Thanks everyone.. mystery solved.
cjggilbert said:
3000mAh battery for vibrant on ebay for $20... came with the extended back cover a bit different at first but I got used to it. Works great.
Sent from my smokin fast vibrant.
Nero v4.1 + Dow
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can you post the link for that battery?
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Battery Link
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can you post the link for that battery?
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Here is the thread that will get you to the battery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=910519
Glad I'd found this thread !!!
I purchased an extra battery and charger on eBay recently. Imagine MY surprise when my phone started balking when I put the new battery in. I purchased EB575152VA , but needed EB575152YZ.
Anyone here with a EB575152YZ spare battery system want to trade out for an even swap ? Mine has been taken out of the box, the battery put in the phone, then taken out with a quickness when my phone chastised me. If so, please contact me or I'm going to eBay it. I'm so SO thankful I found this forum.
There's really not a lot of helpful info out there. You guys just saved me several hundred dollars in a blown up phone and a voided warranty.
Cheers !!!
Is there any reviews or user feedback available now:
HLI-U8800HXL 3600mah for Huawei IDEOS X5
HLI-HB4F1 1800mah for Huawei IDEOS X5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=677170 post 7
Very interested in these batterys.
Whats the warranty and how long would it take to ship to Aus?
If the picture's anything to go by, this guy's selling the OEM battery on eBay for under $20 including postage.
Doing a search on eBay for "HB4F1" (the battery code) yields many cheaper results, though their photos indicate that they're aftermarket rather than the original.
If you do decide to buy one, I'd suggest you refrain from leaving feedback until you've had a chance to test it for a few days to confirm that you're getting at least the same life as you got with your original battery.
Based on past experience (with other 'phones), you'll never get anywhere near the rated capacity with "no-name" (and in "no-name" I also include Mugen et al) batteries; they're really only good for emergency back-ups rather than replacing your existing battery. And you'll NEVER get more than the OEM battery's capacity, no matter what the aftermarket manufacturers tell you.
is this battery http://cgi.ebay.com/Battery-Huawei-MIFI-E5830-E5832-E5836-E5838-HB4F1-/130490381893?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item1e61d53645#ht_2399t_998 exactly like this one i have in my phone since i bought it??is this original?
jmallen3 said:
is this battery http://cgi.ebay.com/Battery-Huawei-MIFI-E5830-E5832-E5836-E5838-HB4F1-/130490381893?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item1e61d53645#ht_2399t_998 exactly like this one i have in my phone since i bought it??is this original?
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That looks like the original to me.
jmallen3 said:
is this battery http://cgi.ebay.com/Battery-Huawei-MIFI-E5830-E5832-E5836-E5838-HB4F1-/130490381893?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item1e61d53645#ht_2399t_998 exactly like this one i have in my phone since i bought it??is this original?
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anyone that have bought this battery and can confirm that is genuine and it wont explode on charging ?
Mugen Power has the 3600mah extended battery with door listed on their website now....
http://http://www.mugenpowerpdabattery.com/zaspx/product_details.aspx?file=sh&productno=1222&PageNo=&sortby=sortid&orderby=desc&keyword=u8800
Adams888 said:
Mugen Power has the 3600mah extended battery with door listed on their website now....
http://http://www.mugenpowerpdabattery.com/zaspx/product_details.aspx?file=sh&productno=1222&PageNo=&sortby=sortid&orderby=desc&keyword=u8800
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Well I was disappoint with the 1800mAh so no thanks back with my 1500mAh that is working...
Adams888 said:
Mugen Power has the 3600mah extended battery with door listed on their website now....
http://http://www.mugenpowerpdabattery.com/zaspx/product_details.aspx?file=sh&productno=1222&PageNo=&sortby=sortid&orderby=desc&keyword=u8800
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$99 is very pricy for a phone that costs ~$300. AND the the phone becomes bulkier, no thanks.
$99 for one battery? I prefer buy 3 or 4 standard bateries and swap when they gets empty lol
I would love to have one of these especially the 3600 mah
ive heard that 1800mah is something like failure or fake, it doesnt last that longer than the 1500mah one. also except that the 3600mah is soooo fat i think its really expensive also considering the fact that it might be used and of course not certified
I buyed two of this batteries. My batteries production date 1,5 year ago and it's lighter than orginal battery. These batteries are waiting for emergency call (if orginal batter empty in a emergency situation) I never charged them and i dont know performance. I am just tested them on my phone. They are %50 charged and phone can working with them.
Have they the same size as a normal one?
the site shows a big back cover.
Nope, they are fat fat that's why they had custom back cover.
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i bought a portable usb battery charger from e-bay which takes 2 brc 18650 type batteries who count 3000mAh and 3.7 v so i believe that 6000mAh will be enough
how can i buy it from turkey ?
tskjoe said:
how can i buy it from turkey ?
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From eBay, if you really wanna buy
geocheats2 said:
i bought a portable usb battery charger from e-bay which takes 2 brc 18650 type batteries who count 3000mAh and 3.7 v so i believe that 6000mAh will be enough
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Can you send me the link of this?
Thanks
What about this battery????
1700MAH HB4F1 Battery For Huawei U8800 i found on ebay
Seems interesting. Have anyone baught?
Should work fine. Nice to know that the U8800 battery is the same as some other Huawei devices too. Should be plenty of batteries for sale.
I fancy a high capacity battery myself.
looks good...i already got an extra one from deal extreme but it's a cheap knock off. would love to hear from someone that bought this one.
darkado said:
looks good...i already got an extra one from deal extreme but it's a cheap knock off. would love to hear from someone that bought this one.
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it s not good the one from dealextreme; I mean does it last enough;
Tapatalked from bed...
i know, 5 hours at the most. still ok for emergencies.
I bought it today... now just waiting for it....
HB4F1
the cheap knock off is the one you can find from dealextreme by searching u8800?
dealextreme.com/p/genuine-hb4f1-compatible-rechargeable-3-7v-1500mah-li-ion-battery-for-huawei-e585-e5830-70554
i just ordered 2. :/
but it's genuine AND compatible
Hi
I have found this battery on ebay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GOLD-2430MAH-HB4F1-BUSINESS-BATTERY-HUAWEI-E5830-E5832-E5836-E5838-E5-ASCEND-/130576493812?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1e66f72cf4 and from the description "seems" possible a good capacity. For me if the technology is always lipo is impossible a capacity of 2.4A with same battery size and weight, but 1.7~1.8 is credible if really the cell is Japan made.
Bye
Fabryxy
Edit: sorry but from the neutral feedback of the seller seems that many people have denote same\less capacity of stock battery.
fabryxy said:
Hi
I have found this battery on ebay: REMOVED and from the description "seems" possible a good capacity. For me if the technology is always lipo is impossible a capacity of 2.4A with same battery size and weight, but 1.7~1.8 is credible if really the cell is Japan made.
Bye
Fabryxy
Edit: sorry but from the neutral feedback of the seller seems that many people have denote same\less capacity of stock battery.
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see this
Made in Japan
2 year warranty
Ultra-high capacity battery
Maximizes time between charges
Delivers superior performance
Robust & durable battery
Direct battery replacement
Stable and safe to use
No "memory effect"
Lightweight lithium-ion
Capacity: 2430mAh
Well the original battery is a Lithium Polymer and NOT a Lithium Ion
so there is a difference between both off them
Pretty ****ty battery. Probaply not the battery what it says.
someone have tried one of these powerful battery like the 1700mah or 2430mah one?
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someone have tried one of these powerful battery like the 1700mah or 2430mah one?
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From what I've read, the "amazing" gold 1800/2430mAh batteries are extremely crap.
i have ordered a 1800 battery and waiting to arrive in monday so ill test it and post my opinion!
anyone tested? its capacity is real?
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=28506
Confirmed by multiple sources to fit in Samsung Galaxy S I variants such as the Vibrant, Fascinate, etc. Since it's a Samsung made (read: Not Chinese hackery) battery, the 1800mah is all but guaranteed.
Have since received the batteries in the mail. They fit perfectly in both my Samsung Vibrant and Samsung Fascinate. Initial battery life tests seem to confirm the 1800mah listed on the side.
I see no point in that as you can now get a 2000mah battery from Samsung. It makes your phone a bit fatter and comes with a different cover but it adds some decent juice.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-re...galaxy-s-ii-gives-you-all-the-juice-you-need/
I might get one later.
So does this one is still the same size as the normal one?
I'd like one for my sgs2
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I see no point in that as you can now get a 2000mah battery from Samsung. It makes your phone a bit fatter and comes with a different cover but it adds some decent juice.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-re...galaxy-s-ii-gives-you-all-the-juice-you-need/
I might get one later.
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Wow, where to start. First, that 200mah requires a fatter phone. The whole selling point of the 1800mah battery is that it doesn't require a new battery cover, and thus does not require a new case. For the many of us with Otterbox cases and the like, this is very good news. I highly doubt I'd give up my Otterbox for a mere 200 mah. If I were going for an extended battery that required a new battery cover, I wouldn't aim so low as 2000mah, but would opt for the Momax 2700mah battery with the kickstand battery cover, or the crazier 3600mah upgrades on the market.
Secondly, this battery is SGS1 compatibility. The Vibrant, Mezmerize, Fascinate, Epic, Galaxy S 4g, i9000, etc all have 1500 mah batteries. To get a legitimate 1800mah battery that doesn't require an extended battery door is a real boon.
Does anyone know if Samsung do any extended/ higher mah battery for the nexus s?
Received the batteries in the mail today. They fit perfectly into both my Vibrant and Fascinate, and initial testing corroborates the mah rating of 1800.
Can now confirm that the battery is not only legitimate, but holds up to the 1800 mah claims. Quite the steal for $20!
Would this work on a Samsung Focus?
If the Focus is a Galaxy S variant, then yes. Otherwise, no.
How much more does the battery last?
So far, for me, it's lasted about as long as it's rated, meaning about 20% longer than stock.
yo the sprint galaxy s2 epich 4g touch ... ugh so long to say that... umm , it comes with a the 1800 already
I will trade someone two of the stock Galaxy S 1 batteries for one of those.
I'm not sure how good this is or if it is risky, but, has anyone tried this battery: http://www.amazon.com/4500mAh-Recha...id=1420477340&sr=8-12&keywords=note+4+battery It is rated at 4500mAh.
sherpa said:
I'm not sure how good this is or if it is risky, but, has anyone tried this battery: http://www.amazon.com/4500mAh-Recha...id=1420477340&sr=8-12&keywords=note+4+battery It is rated at 4500mAh.
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A guy on youtube reviewed it, it doesnt fit right. Mind you his title says 4200 mah and the description says 4500 mah. If you look at the one I ordered below it shows that 4200mah would fit like his does.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHQoOLVSyxI
I ordered this one because the description shows the size differences. For my model the 4500mah replaces my stock 3220mah.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/321596587777?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Also with these batteries you will most likely lose nfc as they do not mention if they contain the nfc antenna or not.
do you have a samsung oem QI/NFC cover ? seems like if the battery fits then the stock OEM QI cover would give you NFC even with this battery, no ?
sherpa said:
I'm not sure how good this is or if it is risky, but, has anyone tried this battery: http://www.amazon.com/4500mAh-Recha...id=1420477340&sr=8-12&keywords=note+4+battery It is rated at 4500mAh.
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Dude just dont buy it, rubish from china. Do you really think they can make a 4500 mah batter with the same size as the original samsung one which is 3220 and sell it for so little money? Chinese batteries are the worst in the world. They even sell their rubish phones with 1 extra battery because they know the first one is gonna die so fast.
Now, from my experience: I once bought a 6800 chinese garbage power bank battery, because it was cheap and I wanted to try it. Guess what, it could only charge my 1650 mah galaxy s2 once before getting depleted. A friend of mine tried a battery similar to the one you linked for his galaxy s4. It was 3500 mah (original is 2600 mah), it achieved a maximum (MAXIMUM) Screen On time of 2 hours. Not to mention that they are dangerous because they might explode (not kidding, I know a case) and that rubbish effective capacity they have is gonna get even worse so quickly.
I've never understand why people risk destroying their expensive new phone by sticking in some cheap ass 'high capacity' battery from China that could well explode while charging, google exploding lithium batteries, it's not pretty. That people think you can fit extra mah into the same size as the OEM battery baffles me, if it was possible to do this do you not think Samsung would have done it themselves.......
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Not to mention that they are dangerous because they might explode (not kidding, I know a case) and that rubbish effective capacity they have is gonna get even worse so quickly.
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Yeah, that's one thing I am concerned about and that's why I asked to see if anyone had used it.
Joey2o11 said:
I've never understand why people risk destroying their expensive new phone by sticking in some cheap ass 'high capacity' battery from China that could well explode while charging, google exploding lithium batteries, it's not pretty. That people think you can fit extra mah into the same size as the OEM battery baffles me, if it was possible to do this do you not think Samsung would have done it themselves.......
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I understand and that's why I posted this question to see whether people have already used it or not.