Hey! I need some help
I want to buy a Xoom, but i dont know which to buy...
There are two versions in Germany:
- mz601 - Wifi + 3g for 405€
- mz604 - Wifi Only for 366€
You can see, the price difference is pretty small... I dont necessery need 3g, but maybe its a nice to have?!
Whats my problem now you think: I will definetly root the device and im going to spend a lot of time in development thread
I just saw, that there are not all roms compatible with the 3g model and more devs focus first on the Wifi only device...
Is it possible to flash wifi only roms also on wifi + 3g xoom and just disclaim for the 3g feature?
Then I would buy the mz 601.
If you tell me, that there are often problems with roms for the 3g model, i'd grab the 3g model.
I hope, you can understand what i mean and im looking forward to your responses!!
Greets from Germany
Yes, you can usually use wifi-only roms on a 3G device, just impacts 3G connectivity...usually wifi is no affected. Now US 3G sometimes has more trouble with custom roms as they have different gsm as opposed to US cdmi.
I'm assuming you can't tether to your phone. If not, I'd get one with 3g if you can afford the data plan
Can I use every Wlan Rom on an 3g Model (MZ601), but disclaim the 3g?!
Thanks for the replys...
@okantomi: What means "usually" in that case? Always or sometimes? What are the exceptions.
So that means, i could use the ICS Nightlys by Team EOS but without 3g integration?
Is that true for every Wlan- rom? I just want to be sure, that IF I flash a Wlan-Only-ROM on an 3g-device, it only effects the 3g to be missing.
I love flashing and being "up to date" softwarewise... I hope you can understand my concerns.
I just want to have 3g, if i want to use it in half year... Because a mobile or transportable device like this, is pretty cool with 3g. when you are on the way...
EDIT: I could tether... but i have a 3g limit of 500 mb... and basicly i am not allowed by contract to tether...
I could for a small amount, i only have to deal with the consequences
CarlosCalderon said:
So that means, i could use the ICS Nightlys by Team EOS but without 3g integration?
Is that true for every Wlan- rom? I just want to be sure, that IF I flash a Wlan-Only-ROM on an 3g-device, it only effects the 3g to be missing.
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Yes that is correct. We will have a European 3G version at some stage as well.
Thx for reply, team eos...
So, there is no chance to brick the device, when i flash the nightly on an EU-3g-device, right?!
Nice to hear, that you will support 3g later
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Thanks for the replys...
@okantomi: What means "usually" in that case? Always or sometimes? What are the exceptions.
So that means, i could use the ICS Nightlys by Team EOS but without 3g integration?
Is that true for every Wlan- rom? I just want to be sure, that IF I flash a Wlan-Only-ROM on an 3g-device, it only effects the 3g to be missing.
I love flashing and being "up to date" softwarewise... I hope you can understand my concerns.
I just want to have 3g, if i want to use it in half year... Because a mobile or transportable device like this, is pretty cool with 3g. when you are on the way...
EDIT: I could tether... but i have a 3g limit of 500 mb... and basicly i am not allowed by contract to tether...
I could for a small amount, i only have to deal with the consequences
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So, yes, since I have a wifi-only Xoom I have no direct experience with the 3G Xoom to draw on, but from what I have seen, unless the developer says otherwise, it is usually only 3G connectivity that is missing.
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Hey guys,
I was hoping I could tap your brains for some EVO knowledge. I've been rocking CM7 for awhile now and love it. The only "problem" seems to be how it handles the 4g connection. It seems like it will either use 4g OR 3g and if I turn on 4g but there is no coverage (or it drops out) it does not immediately default to 3g. I know on Sense roms that when 4g stopped, 3g kicked in. Has anybody else seen this?
I find 4G on CM7 more unstable than on sense when I use it. It's hard to keep a connection and seems to take longer to connect. One of the reasons I recently switched back to a sense rom.
dcfella said:
I find 4G on CM7 more unstable than on sense when I use it. It's hard to keep a connection and seems to take longer to connect. One of the reasons I recently switched back to a sense rom.
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I've actually experienced the opposite.
I could barely use 4G on any Sense ROM. It would spike my CPU at 100% (even after full wipes), it would disconnect and take forever to reconnect.
Since moving to CM7, 4G connections really quick and usually stays established with no problems.
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Hey guys,
I was hoping I could tap your brains for some EVO knowledge. I've been rocking CM7 for awhile now and love it. The only "problem" seems to be how it handles the 4g connection. It seems like it will either use 4g OR 3g and if I turn on 4g but there is no coverage (or it drops out) it does not immediately default to 3g. I know on Sense roms that when 4g stopped, 3g kicked in. Has anybody else seen this?
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i use cm7 and when i lose 4g my 3g automatically kicks in and my device uses that. i recommend updating to cm 7.0.3.1 they use the updated google 4g codes
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i use cm7 and when i lose 4g my 3g automatically kicks in and my device uses that. i recommend updating to cm 7.0.3.1 they use the updated google 4g codes
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Where are you reading that they updated 4G codes? Their changelog only says they changed a notifications bug and also a security hole.
Cares said:
Where are you reading that they updated 4G codes? Their changelog only says they changed a notifications bug and also a security hole.
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They updated the code but I just realized it's only on the nightly. There is a problem with the nightly where mms wont download, so if mms is important, don't flash it yet
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p-slim said:
i use cm7 and when i lose 4g my 3g automatically kicks in and my device uses that. i recommend updating to cm 7.0.3.1 they use the updated google 4g codes
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That's going to be in 7.1.
I've found WiMax on CM7 to be about the same as on Sense, which is to say it's flaky on both. I don't think it's really the phone or the ROM's fault. Sprint/Clear just hasn't built a strong enough 4G network to provide a good experience. Any time it constantly has to switch back and forth (which is going to be the case with the high frequencies they're running at and insufficient power or tower density to compensate), the experience won't be very satisfying.
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That's going to be in 7.1.
I've found WiMax on CM7 to be about the same as on Sense, which is to say it's flaky on both. I don't think it's really the phone or the ROM's fault. Sprint/Clear just hasn't built a strong enough 4G network to provide a good experience. Any time it constantly has to switch back and forth (which is going to be the case with the high frequencies they're running at and insufficient power or tower density to compensate), the experience won't be very satisfying.
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I 100% agree and feel the same way
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I too am interested in this topic
I was using cm7 for a little bit...4g in chicago was slowwww to connect if it did at all...i just switched to virus's gingersense b3 and it is awesome...waiting on his kingdome port with sense 3.0 sometime tonight
i think it's pretty expected that two unpaid coders won't make as good of a code than a multi-billion/million/lotta$$$ corp can. amazing work either way though. that said, try one of the cm7.1 nightlys (any #60+ nightly, not counting stable 7.0.3, that's still 2.3.3) as the new android 2.3.4 has google's own 4g wimax coding in it.
Waiting to download the Kingdom ROM from XxXViRuSXxX. Apparently 4g works great and it has the new Sense 3.0, which is beautiful! It won't be bug free but I plan on jumping in and helping out and soon it will be a daily driver
What is cm7?
As the topic suggests can someone tell me how do I make them run on 3.1 ota........I searched the dev section already.....I need a method which doesn't break future ota's or is simpler.......(even if it breaks ota....there should be a way to fix it.......)
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vari9 said:
As the topic suggests can someone tell me how do I make them run on 3.1 ota........I searched the dev section already.....I need a method which doesn't break future ota's or is simpler.......(even if it breaks ota....there should be a way to fix it.......)
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so far you need a rooted devices and some modification and extra file to make it work... and since the "OTA" removed all related to 3G.... I don't think it's in the plan of ACER to allow user of A500 to use 3G Dongle
So....that means I can't use the dongle on 3.1 OTA??
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the 3.1 never spoke to bring 3G dongle compatibility
if you was dreaming about, sorry to broke your dream.
You want 3G on a tablet, go on a custom firmware who support 3G.
but becarefull 3G dongle are limited not all are supported.
If you wanna a 3G Tablet you should wait for the A501
I prefer connect by wifi tablet to my phone and then to 3G with my phone
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the 3.1 never spoke to bring 3G dongle compatibility
if you was dreaming about, sorry to broke your dream.
You want 3G on a tablet, go on a custom firmware who support 3G.
but becarefull 3G dongle are limited not all are supported.
If you wanna a 3G Tablet you should wait for the A501
I prefer connect by wifi tablet to my phone and then to 3G with my phone
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What about 2g dongles??
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What about 2g dongles??
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Same thing. Mobile network capability is not part of the A500 ROM, nor will it EVER be, officially. That's why Acer make the A501 model.
If you want cell capability, either buy an A501, or use the mods/custom ROMs from the dev section.
Is there any way we could fallback to 3.0? Using 3G dongle is really important to me. If only I knew from the first time that 3.1 OTA removed 3G feature
Well as a newbie, flashing to a custom 3.1 ROM which support 3G is a little bit risky to me Will try that someday for sure, but not now ^^
ahsya said:
Is there any way we could fallback to 3.0? Using 3G dongle is really important to me. If only I knew from the first time that 3.1 OTA removed 3G feature
Well as a newbie, flashing to a custom 3.1 ROM which support 3G is a little bit risky to me Will try that someday for sure, but not now ^^
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3.0 didn't have any 3G/2G features either, so going back will achieve nothing.
You either use the mod, a custom ROM, or you buy an A501. Those are your options.
ahsya said:
Is there any way we could fallback to 3.0? Using 3G dongle is really important to me. If only I knew from the first time that 3.1 OTA removed 3G feature
Well as a newbie, flashing to a custom 3.1 ROM which support 3G is a little bit risky to me Will try that someday for sure, but not now ^^
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what the point to fallback to 3.0... that was not supported neither.
if you really want 3G... my advice is... use your phone as 3G Modem Wifi>3G
why?
well
1 Sim
1 Bills
1 think to think...
if A501
phone bills
3G bills for A501
etc. etc..
Hi there m8´s...
I have now edited this and added the answers to my questions...
Btw:
I have the 3G device...
And I am not using 3G or gsm at all...
Question:
Can i then without any problem use the "WiFi only" roms ??
Answer:
Yes, you can use the roms and kernals for the WiFi model (7510) on your 3g device (7500)...
You WILL loose 3g and gsm in the process...
- at least until you flash a 7500 kernal and ROM again...
Question:
Do i have to use the 3G versions for my device ??
Answer:
Only IF you use 3g or gsm, if not then go ahead and flash WiFi only on your device...
I think it should work.
I have seen a guy who accidentally (from my impressions) applied 3g only rom/kernel and that disabled 3g but i think the rest was ok.
I whould give it a try - if you have problems you can go back to the stock rom.
NEVER EVER take advise from people who just "think" they know. They are just guessing and really have no idea.
It is not recommend to flash any 3rd party ROM onto the Galaxy Tab 10. None of them are as stable or reliable as the stock ROM. It is recommended to avoid them.
5thElement said:
NEVER EVER take advise from people who just "think" they know. They are just guessing and really have no idea.
It is not recommend to flash any 3rd party ROM onto the Galaxy Tab 10. None of them are as stable or reliable as the stock ROM. It is recommended to avoid them.
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Do as he says, never take his advise cause he thinks he knows something.
If you not caring about 3G support, I recommend checking out Tasks ROM, the last 5-6 pages talk about exactly what your looking for.
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Do as he says, never take his advise cause he thinks he knows something.
If you not caring about 3G support, I recommend checking out Tasks ROM, the last 5-6 pages talk about exactly what your looking for.
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See the last few pages of that thread. ROM is running GREAT on my 3G tab, and is overclocked with pershoot kernel. Just follow my instructions exactly and be sure to flash the proper kernel if you wanna overclock!
You WILL lose3G though.
pshdo said:
Hi there m8´s...
I have the 3G device...
I am not using 3G at all...
Can i then without any problem use the "WiFi only" roms ??
- or do i have to use the 3G versions for my device anyway ??
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If you're not using 3G, flashing the wifi only roms should work for you.
And I say thats no problem. You can simply use it without being afraid.
Just gonna lose 3G ability.
I have now a WiFi only rom in my 3G device, and it is working great...
NO PROBLEMS AT ALL...
And now i also use the 1.4ghz 7510 kernal...
It is working great...
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pshdo said:
And now i also use the 1.4ghz 7510 kernal...
It is working great...
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did you loose 3g then ?
hajen78 said:
did you loose 3g then ?
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of course he did. Thats why it's wifi only.
hajen78 said:
did you loose 3g then ?
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Yes I did loose 3g, I do not have a sim card in the gadget anyway, so no problem for me...
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I have a 4g xoom that I bought used and use only on wifi. Does flashing a rom that doesn't support 4g simply disable 3/4g? Or will it not work at all? Are xoom roms even worth flashing or is a kernel a big enough speed increase?
gonintendo said:
I have a 4g xoom that I bought used and use only on wifi. Does flashing a rom that doesn't support 4g simply disable 3/4g? Or will it not work at all? Are xoom roms even worth flashing or is a kernel a big enough speed increase?
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Flashing the Odachi kernel will give you overclocking and lots of added functions while preserving your 3G/4G. It's good to keep it even if you don't plan to use it.
okantomi said:
Flashing the Odachi kernel will give you overclocking and lots of added functions while preserving your 3G/4G. It's good to keep it even if you don't plan to use it.
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Would I not be able to flash back to stock to get it back?
I actually moved back to an OS that deliberately does NOT have 3G/4G. I don't have the service and just use WiFi but even in Zirplane mode, after the upgrade, my battery life went from days to hours.
I got a great deal on an a501 and would NOT be using 3g.
Since most ROMs are for a500s, and wouldnt have any 3g capability, would using one of those extend my battery life since there would be no polling for any 3g signal and it would be entirely disabled?
Again, I have no interest in using 3G so the fact that the a500 Roms dont have 3g capability does not bother me at all.
Thanks!
I am pretty sure that if you install a ROM meant for the A500, that 3G will be disabled, but you also have to disable the cell standby (even A500 users have to do this) to disable it, all you have to do is to add ro.carrier=wifi-only on to /system/build.prop. you must have a custom kernel installed found here. also, I am not sure if you need a custom ROM but if you are installing a custom kernel, you might as well go the extra mile and install a ROM as well. (P.S. the custom kernel i linked you to also lets you overclock to 1.64Ghz)
I have used one on my Iconia and have never gone back. there are many ROMs and I can not tell you which one is best for you, however, i can tell you that I like this one. Another popular one is this one. try them out, but of course make use of the backup feature in CWM just in case happy flashing!
You shouldn't need to edit the build.prop if you flash an A500 rom as the build.prop would already be for wifi only.
You will definately loose 3G functionality a the A500 roms don't support it.
Unless you are using 3G all the time this shouldn't affect battery life too much.... Depends on other factors, do you have apps that are regularly accessing 3G behind the scenes...
If you have a wifi tab then the best idea is to turn wifi off to improve battery, you could try turning 3G off on your A501 and see if that helps... If, like me you have wifi on, pretty much always, then it probably won't do much...
Thanks for the replies