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I'm having problems with It shutting off overnight while charging. Anybody else having this problem?
bjh2379 said:
I'm having problems with It shutting off overnight while charging. Anybody else having this problem?
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I just discovered this "feature" this morning as well. -_-
Did u find how to fix this?
I love the feature where the A500's battery doesn't last overnight with the screen off. I didn't think I needed to charge it overnight since the battery was at 95% anyways, so I just set it on the table next to my bed and went to sleep. Woke up this morning and it wouldn't power on. Pretty cool. Wonder what is draining the battery? My DroidX can sit on the same table for almost a week w/o being charged.
I haven't seen it, then again I play music from getting into bed till I wake up so ill try leaving it to sleep and see what happens.
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Me too
Same issue here.
i have not tried the trick that I just found that seems to extend the batery life....I put the tablet in "airplane mode" , enable the WiFi and the battery looks like it is draining alot slower. There is power being used for "cell standby" even though is a wifi only tablet
Same problem here with shutdown on charge. Right now it seems fairly consistent-
I'm experiencing them same thing when leaving asleep for extended periods. It first happened while I was charging... now it happened again when I left for dinner and came back. I don't see any setting options for that
Same here. Thought it was a "feature" to keep from using as much battery.
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So shutting off notifications seems to stop the problem for me.. except that I don't get notifications At least it boots pretty fast
Lets run some tests, shall we?
bjh2379 said:
I'm having problems with It shutting off overnight while charging. Anybody else having this problem?
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I don't think they're shutting off, I think they're crashing/freezing during sleep and not rebooting.
This is speculation by me, and could be different for different people.
Finding the problem:
The test.
Night/Bedtime
This is an overnight/while you sleep test and requires about 2hrs. of your time beforehand. Record your figures if you can and post them for debunking. A couple hours before bed and while you use the tablet during the evening, charge it. After 100% and once it's off the charger please don't use it for anything. We want to simulate the sleep process for about 90m before bed. So if you use the tablet even for a quick web surf, plug it in and getting back to 100%. We're going to allow ~3% for errors anyway but we want to be as close to accurate as possible.
90m before you're ready for bed remove the charger. Don't use the tablet simply set the brightness to auto and take note of your battery level and the time. 60m in take a look at that battery charge again and record the time and charge level. 90m in is the last check and after this whether you go to bed or not please don't wake the tablet. Don't worry if it seems to wake and go back on it's own. That's inconsequential for this test. Just put it somewhere that no one will bother it and resist using it until you wake up. Please
Morning/Wake time
Wake it up.
1. Comes on? Record the charge level and time for posterity so we get an idea of idle drain here on the thread. Everyone gets different values. You'll have to run this test at another time as your shutdown/freeze hasn't been reproduced this time.
2. Doesn't come on? Try a power on press. Comes on? Same as 1. Record the charge level and time and post it here.
3. Doesn't come on? Try a power on press. Doesn't come on? Plug it in and power it on. Now do the same as 2. Record the charge level and time and post it here.
I hypothesize a few different scenarios the summary of which is that I don't think they're shutting down, but this is mostly based on the assumption that the batteries are being charged while the unit is frozen. If they do not charge then my entire test would have to be re-designed. I surmise they freeze and don't restart so they either run out of juice or they're actually frozen when you try to power them on and the long press is rebooting the unit, not powering it on. If I am right then we should see that the batteries are drained as if they have been on all night. This is going to be very imprecise, but my idea is that we'll take the charge % of your bedtime check which is a 60m mark check and just times that by the amt. of hours you were sleeping.
So if you were at 95% when you touched the tablet for the last time, this would mean a drain of ~5% give or take ~1% due to your use while checking, per hour. You take that and multiply it by how many hours you've slept and you'd get X x 5 = 40% which leaves the tablet with ~60% battery when you wake up, again give or take 3% for errors, syncing during the night etc.
If you're seeing a somewhat accurate numerical representation of this formula then it means the tab drained all night.
If you're seeing something way off like the tablet still having way more than it should then it means at some point in the night it really did shut down on its own.
People who are actually saying it shut off probably just reboot the tablet without realizing it as it was on the charger when it froze. Since a power off/reboot press of the power button is roughly the same length as a power on press, it's difficult to differentiate sometimes.
Solving the problem:
I have had this happen twice and it was while I left GPS on.
I haven't had an android cell phone yet that hasn't frozen or reboot itself when I left GPS on for extended periods (aka overnight) so the first time this happened I instantly knew to check and I purposely left it on the second time to reproduce and the second time, the tablet ended up rebooting not freezing. If you're not technical the easiest way to know if your tablet reboot during the night is to leave a web page or IM window on the screen or leave music playing.
You may want to skip the above "finding the problem" tests and attempt this "solving the problem" test. As I mentioned, this is all speculation so I'm just trying to get to the bottom of it and I'm sure we can as a grp.
Once you rule out hardware though, then it's a problem. So if it is indeed NOT the GPS then we're at the mercy of Acer and Google because otherwise there'd be just too many factors to track down.
I'm getting this and i'm loosing a ton of battery somewhere in the process too. I think the above poster is right.
I plug in tabby. go to bed. wake up to pee. see tabby is 100% battery. unplug and go back to bed. wake up to go to work and tabby is powered off completely and battery is anywhere between 85%-90% in a matter of 2-3 hours after being unplugged.
Its likely a rogue app I would get a program like advanced task killer watch it and see what apps are loading in background after you kill all apps.look for apps you installed.not so much the ones Acer put on your tab.
With Ti backup freeze the first one you think should not run give it a day.if that's not the issue keep going down the list.
Had a similar issue it was a app I got from amazon.that was So CALLED FREE.they are not so I uninstalled everything from amazon. No more battery drain.
SOME APPS do not fallow the drained android or social rules
Watching the apps to be sure nothing is running CPU cycles allow the time I loose about 2 to 3 % batter life over night with wifi set to stay awake.
This is ideally from 11 pm until around 10 am the fallowing day.
Yes I sleep in alot giggles
re-flashed with Taboonay v.2.0/Richardtrips v.3.3 Kernel and it fixed everything.
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re-flashed with Taboonay v.2.0/Richardtrips v.3.3 Kernel and it fixed everything.
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had this on my tab for 2 days and reflashed back to stock because battery life was awful.
Debating about whether to install CM7, but there have been a few problems with it. I'm having a tough time finding the current state of the following issues:
1. Sleep of Death - Nook goes to sleep and doesn't wake up, forcing a reboot. There seems to be some debate over whether this is solved. One of the threads indicates that it's not a problem if you turn wifi off with the screen. Can anyone confirm?
2. Battery drain - Battery drains at 2%-3% per hour in sleep mode. I believe this is resolved. Can anyone confirm?
3. Premature Battery Death - Battery dies at various points over 0%. There seem to be various utilities for resetting battery stats, etc., but I can't figure out whether or not this is resolved.
4. Screen stays on when plugged in - Forced to hit the screen off button when plugging in the Nook. I've seen recent complaints about this one, so I'm assuming it's not resolved.
I did go through the threads and am confused about whether these issues still exist, so I figured I would try the Q&A section. If someone with CM7 wouldn't mind jumping in, that would be great. Thanks!
1. Maybe, I'm a lucky one but I haven't had problem with SoD regardless wifi on or off. I've been using nb100 and up, and now at 138
2. Using 138, i got 2-3% drop overnight, about 8 or 10 hours. With 120, zero dropped
3. Not experienced yet since I never let it down to sub-5
4. Mine seems act the opposite way: screen off, plug in to charge, screen automatically on, have to press power button to put screen off again.
1. I haven't seen this in recent nightlies.
2. Fixed; NC now deep sleeps when unplugged, even with WiFi on.
3. Fixed as far as I know.
4. Mine acts like yours and votinh's both; these are not mutually exclusive. If you plug in while on, the screen eventually dims instead of going off. If you plug in while off, the device turns on, sometimes just the backlight. I'd call this one minor, especially in relation to the other issues.
511pf said:
Debating about whether to install CM7, but there have been a few problems with it. I'm having a tough time finding the current state of the following issues:
1. Sleep of Death - Nook goes to sleep and doesn't wake up, forcing a reboot. There seems to be some debate over whether this is solved. One of the threads indicates that it's not a problem if you turn wifi off with the screen. Can anyone confirm?
2. Battery drain - Battery drains at 2%-3% per hour in sleep mode. I believe this is resolved. Can anyone confirm?
3. Premature Battery Death - Battery dies at various points over 0%. There seem to be various utilities for resetting battery stats, etc., but I can't figure out whether or not this is resolved.
4. Screen stays on when plugged in - Forced to hit the screen off button when plugging in the Nook. I've seen recent complaints about this one, so I'm assuming it's not resolved.
I did go through the threads and am confused about whether these issues still exist, so I figured I would try the Q&A section. If someone with CM7 wouldn't mind jumping in, that would be great. Thanks!
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1) I get SOD about once a day regardless of how I have it set up. It does happen less with wifi on sleep only but at work I need to push data, so my wifi is on all the time and...it's an issue, not terrible but annoying none the less.
2) Battery drain, I get about 36 hours if I use it lightly, but I tend to charge it nightly because I can't take a chance of heavy use at work and loosing it.
3) PDB, never had this problem.
4) The screen turns off by just hitting the screen off button. This isn't a big a deal actually, since you gotta plug the thing in, another button isn't a big deal. I have katecca screen lock and off in my bar at the bottom, so it's easy to turn off. I also have the nook power off widget but I haven't used it much.
That's great. Thanks a lot for the responses. Really helpful.
I have only had it CM7 on my nook for one day, so im not sure about the battery issue. But i know i put it down around 10pm last night with less then half a battery and i got home from work around 3pm and it had about 25% batt left.
Besides that sometimes when i plug it in it stays lit up. but thats a "meh who cares" to me at least.
Running 7.1.0 RC1 with Dal's OC, On Demand, with lowered Voltage on the steps
1) I've only had one SOD ever (knock on wood), it seems to be mostly cleared up
2) Battery drain has not been a problem for me. On .29 it was more only 1%/hr for battery drain.
3) I haven't experienced early battery death at all
4) It isn't a big deal, especially if you charge with the provided outlet adapter for quick charge. Don't see this preventing you from installing CM7.
If these stats are correct from ASI (I'm hoping they are, they sound right), I'm at 76% after 3 days, 19 hours uptime, and 7 hours of it without sleep.
I say go for it. Even if it is off SD (mines on emmc) it is still a much better experience than stock/rooted. I doubt anything will make me change from CM7, unless ICS becomes a viable option in the future.
Just a follow up on this. I installed CM7 and have not had a Sleep of Death, have normal battery drain comparable to stock rooted, and have not had premature battery death. The screen does come on when I plug the Nook in, but like everyone mentioned, I just turn it off and it's no big deal.
So far, my wifi actually reconnects more reliably than on stock rooted 1.1. I'm overclocked to 1200 Mhz, with no voltage or other adjustments.
Following up again - I get a SOD or a reboot about every five times I turn off the screen in CM7. I tried to use Tasker to turn wifi off with the screen, which has solved the problem for some people but this made no difference at all. I was running a nightly from late July and updated to another from late August (173?) but the problem hasn't gone away. I may try Stock 1.2 rooted.
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Following up again - I get a SOD or a reboot about every five times I turn off the screen in CM7. I tried to use Tasker to turn wifi off with the screen, which has solved the problem for some people but this made no difference at all. I was running a nightly from late July and updated to another from late August (173?) but the problem hasn't gone away. I may try Stock 1.2 rooted.
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I had no SODs from almost a week with n165; I upgraded to n171, got an SOD first time I put it down for a while, so I reflashed n165 and I'm sticking with it until I hear of something I need.
WiFi always on.
As always, YMMV.
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Just a little update:
Since using nb169, I got a few SoD, did update again to nb173, still got hit occasionally.
I never have this kind of issue before but lately.
The changes I made
a. Played around with ADW Launcher setting (especially Desktop Animation)
b. Recently installed Simi Clock and updated some apps (such Nook app)
c. Recently having 8GB uSD card plugged in.
For some reason, I don't think a. and b. causing problem but c.
can you run cm7 with the 1.2 or 1.3 updates from b&n? im on a autonooter 1.1 and have been wanting to move up to something better especially if i can have flash finally.
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can you run cm7 with the 1.2 or 1.3 updates from b&n? im on a autonooter 1.1 and have been wanting to move up to something better especially if i can have flash finally.
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CM7 is custom Gingerbread-based ROM, it has nothing to do with stock ROM and there is absolutely no relationship between the two (except they are both Android OS)
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CM7 is custom Gingerbread-based ROM, it has nothing to do with stock ROM and there is absolutely no relationship between the two (except they are both Android OS)
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thanks for the response
One last (I think) follow up. I installed stock rooted 1.2 thinking it CM7 causing me problems over the last month. Turns out I had the same problem on CM7.
I read my Nook before I go to sleep, so it's often dark in the room. I turn the brightness WAY down. The problem ended up being the Adjbrightness "Lock brightness so other applications can't change" setting. It has something to do with screen dimming when turning off the screen. This setting being on was causing frequent reboots both on CM7 and stock rooted 1.2. I ended up going to ScreenFilter instead, and the problem has completely gone away at least so far.
511pf said:
Debating about whether to install CM7, but there have been a few problems with it. I'm having a tough time finding the current state of the following issues:
1. Sleep of Death - Nook goes to sleep and doesn't wake up, forcing a reboot. There seems to be some debate over whether this is solved. One of the threads indicates that it's not a problem if you turn wifi off with the screen. Can anyone confirm?
2. Battery drain - Battery drains at 2%-3% per hour in sleep mode. I believe this is resolved. Can anyone confirm?
3. Premature Battery Death - Battery dies at various points over 0%. There seem to be various utilities for resetting battery stats, etc., but I can't figure out whether or not this is resolved.
4. Screen stays on when plugged in - Forced to hit the screen off button when plugging in the Nook. I've seen recent complaints about this one, so I'm assuming it's not resolved.
I did go through the threads and am confused about whether these issues still exist, so I figured I would try the Q&A section. If someone with CM7 wouldn't mind jumping in, that would be great. Thanks!
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I try to stay up to date with the latest nightlies.
1) This is not completely solved. It's rare now (I think it was issues with WiFi), but it has still happened to me recently.
2) Battery drain was fixed with kernels that support Deep Sleep correctly. Not any 7.0.x builds, only 7.1.x+ (RC1) and nightlies have fixed kernel. So this shouldn't be an issue (unless you have a rogue app that is keeping the CPU active, which would prevent Deep Sleep. The "CPU Spy" app will let you see if this is working correctly).
3) This is better, but still a problem. My Nook Color will just switch off at 4% battery now. It use to switch off when I was a lot higher. It's not supposed to do that. It's supposed to gracefully shutdown when low. I have several iOS and Apple devices, so I'm use to things shutting down correctly when low. My Nook Color always just randomly powers off.
4) This isn't a big deal. The screen comes on when charging, but you can turn it off if you want. It stays dim, and the Nook Color charges fine. Dalingrin (the kernel developer guy) said leaving the screen on was a fix to some nasty crash.
#3 is the biggest issue to me, as I've been in the middle of something when my Nook Color randomly powered off. Clearing battery stats, rebooting, etc - none of that makes it perfect.
#1 use to be the biggest problem, but it's very rare for me now.
#2 has been fixed, and #4 doesn't bother me.
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I had no SODs from almost a week with n165; I upgraded to n171, got an SOD first time I put it down for a while, so I reflashed n165 ...
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I misspoke; n165 SOD's on me too, so I conclude that I dl'd 165 and didn't flash it; I reflashed n161 and have been stable since.
I keep WiFi on for email and podcast updates.
I've always got an 8G uSD card in.
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So it happened again. Fully charge the TF for a trip. When I get to my distination (8hrs later) turn on the TF and its dead. No power and no chargers. This thing is pissing me off!
Anyone know why or how I can fix? I do have the wifi off when screen is off.
How is that possible?
Did you not shut down your TF?
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So it happened again. Fully charge the TF for a trip. When I get to my distination (8hrs later) turn on the TF and its dead. No power and no chargers. This thing is pissing me off!
Anyone know why or how I can fix? I do have the wifi off when screen is off.
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It looks like you are having the reboot during deep sleep issue that started with the upgrade to ICS. The reboots can be stuck with the screen enabled and the processor actively trying to complete the boot, which drains your battery.
Short term, I would avoid leaving the TF powered up unattended for long periods.
That will prevent the total battery drain. For a longer term work around, you can try an app called Wake Lock, which you can set to prevent the TF from going into deep sleep, and eliminate the deep sleep reboots, which has helped some users, including me.
The app should be set to restart on Reboot, and select the Partial Lock, then select the Acquire Lock setting, on the red bar, which will switch to green, and indicate that it has acquired. You can also set it to show its icon in the Notification are, so that you have a visual assurance that it is working. Then just exit the app, and it will work in the background.
You can monitor that it is preventing Deep Sleep, using the CPUspy app.
I would then watch carefully to see that you aren't experiencing any more reboots during Deep Sleep.
Long term, ASUS is researching instability with ICS, and we hope to get a true fix. Until then, use of Wake Lock may help you.
Others may have other opinions and explanations, and they may be right, but this has cured my problem for the last 11days. Good luck.
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How is that possible?
Did you not shut down your TF?
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No shut down. I would charge the TF to 100%. turn the screen on to see if its 100% charged and that's it. Then 8hrs or so later when I want to go use the TF, its dead. Can't even turn on.
Can this be the reboot issue or an application that is running and not letting my TF go to deep sleep? Help!
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No shut down. I would charge the TF to 100%. turn the screen on to see if its 100% charged and that's it. Then 8hrs or so later when I want to go use the TF, its dead. Can't even turn on.
Can this be the reboot issue or an application that is running and not letting my TF go to deep sleep? Help!
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Your response makes no sense. You say TF was shut down then you say TF might not be going into deep sleep. If you power the TF down it will go off and use NO battery. you will get some battery internal discharge but TF will not come on an use battery. Try the same test shutting it off.
Ok...try again. I would charge the TF. Then check by pressing the power button. The screen goes on and shows 100%. Then press the power button to turn the screen off ( not turning it completely off).
When I want to use the TF, it won't turn on, as if its completely dead.
Suggestion?
its either a) you get a RR and get stuck in a bootloop, b) you got some app running that drains the battery, such as Winamp or c) your device is broken (not likely).
There are many threads already posted addressing this issue. Please Learn to correctly use the search function
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This is my 3rd day with the TF300. Every night since i got it, the tab turns off by its self.. I wake up in the morning and have to power on the TF300 (battery is more than 50% left). This is getting frustrating for me. Anyone know what the cause of this is?
Im running on default "balanced" mode all the time. Also on .17 firmware. Clicking firmware update doesnt do anything. It wont even give a message like "no update available" or anything like that. It just stays in that screen.
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This is my 3rd day with the TF300. Every night since i got it, the tab turns off by its self.. I wake up in the morning and have to power on the TF300 (battery is more than 50% left). This is getting frustrating for me. Anyone know what the cause of this is?
Im running on default "balanced" mode all the time. Also on .17 firmware. Clicking firmware update doesnt do anything. It wont even give a message like "no update available" or anything like that. It just stays in that screen.
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i haven't had this problem. but i am unrooted and have the updated firmwire.
bimmerboii said:
This is my 3rd day with the TF300. Every night since i got it, the tab turns off by its self.. I wake up in the morning and have to power on the TF300 (battery is more than 50% left). This is getting frustrating for me. Anyone know what the cause of this is?
Im running on default "balanced" mode all the time. Also on .17 firmware. Clicking firmware update doesnt do anything. It wont even give a message like "no update available" or anything like that. It just stays in that screen.
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That's really weird. Does this only happen at night? If you leave the tablet unattended during the day does it turn off by itself? Are you a sleepwalker or someone else in your house? When you set it down at night you may be pressing the power button inadvertently and turning it off? Is your house haunted?
Are you sure it turns off or is it sleep of death? For how long do you press the button to turn it on after the night? If its more than 5 secs and closer to 15-20 seconds you tablet may be experiencing sleep of death. May be cause by an app or something else. If it only happens at night and not during day, there might be some kind of weird timer turning it off. Have you tried cold booting?
Tonight try setting up a camera on your bedroom and see what happens....
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That's really weird. Does this only happen at night? If you leave the tablet unattended during the day does it turn off by itself? Are you a sleepwalker or someone else in your house? When you set it down at night you may be pressing the power button inadvertently and turning it off? Is your house haunted?
Are you sure it turns off or is it sleep of death? For how long do you press the button to turn it on after the night? If its more than 5 secs and closer to 15-20 seconds you tablet may be experiencing sleep of death. May be cause by an app or something else. If it only happens at night and not during day, there might be some kind of weird timer turning it off. Have you tried cold booting?
Tonight try setting up a camera on your bedroom and see what happens....
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its the dog!
jgaf said:
That's really weird. Does this only happen at night? If you leave the tablet unattended during the day does it turn off by itself? Are you a sleepwalker or someone else in your house? When you set it down at night you may be pressing the power button inadvertently and turning it off? Is your house haunted?
Are you sure it turns off or is it sleep of death? For how long do you press the button to turn it on after the night? If its more than 5 secs and closer to 15-20 seconds you tablet may be experiencing sleep of death. May be cause by an app or something else. If it only happens at night and not during day, there might be some kind of weird timer turning it off. Have you tried cold booting?
Tonight try setting up a camera on your bedroom and see what happens....
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Yes it only happens at night. By the time i wake up its shut off. I leave it at the desk beside my bed. 100% sure no one touches it while im asleep lol. We have no pets. Just me and the wife. And she has her own ipad!
I turn it on by holding the power button for 2 secs. So i guess its not the sleep of death.
I only have a few apps installed. Its only my 3rd day that i have the tablet. Havent really had the time to play with it thoroughly.
Ill try not to touch it for 8 hours today.. ill report back. Thanks for the input!
bimmerboii said:
Yes it only happens at night. By the time i wake up its shut off. I leave it at the desk beside my bed. 100% sure no one touches it while im asleep lol. We have no pets. Just me and the wife. And she has her own ipad!
I turn it on by holding the power button for 2 secs. So i guess its not the sleep of death.
I only have a few apps installed. Its only my 3rd day that i have the tablet. Havent really had the time to play with it thoroughly.
Ill try not to touch it for 8 hours today.. ill report back. Thanks for the input!
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I am on my second tablet (the first one had a defective touchscreen) and I can confirm that my tablet does power itself off as well. It does not happen every night, but it happens at least once a day. It has not powered down when I have been using it only when I am away from it for a while. Not sure what could be causing it. It has happened since day one, when there weren't many apps downloaded on it.
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I am on my second tablet (the first one had a defective touchscreen) and I can confirm that my tablet does power itself off as well. It does not happen every night, but it happens at least once a day. It has not powered down when I have been using it only when I am away from it for a while. Not sure what could be causing it. It has happened since day one, when there weren't many apps downloaded on it.
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Please could you elaborate on defective touchscreen? Thanks
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I am on my second tablet (the first one had a defective touchscreen) and I can confirm that my tablet does power itself off as well. It does not happen every night, but it happens at least once a day. It has not powered down when I have been using it only when I am away from it for a while. Not sure what could be causing it. It has happened since day one, when there weren't many apps downloaded on it.
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What firmware are u on?
Follow up to my posts above: I didnt touch my tablet since 8am to 7pm. It didnt shut itself down.. lets see if it will happen tomorrow morning when i wake up
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Surprisingly it did not shut down by itself. I dunno really whats going on. Ill observe for a few more days if the problem is completely gone.
Asus have released the .26 firmware on their website. I have successfully manually updated my tablet from .17 to .26.
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i think is not that is just shuting off. its crashing, but remains off afterward.
i t has happened to me since day one. some times while using but mainly while sleeping. i happened the firstime while watching youtube when i first opened the box to try..
i havent tried a factory reset nor uptading to .26
but as this problem is not that common. i havent tried that. as some thimes i have a lot of programs loaded or installed.
well maybe this weekend i will update to .26 just to be upodate. with factory setting and all!
When i updated mine, i also performed a factory reset. Never experienced the problem again.. Happy with my tf300
I experienced the same problem. I bought my TF300 yesterday and played around with it the whole day until 10pm. After waking up this morning I could just wake it up from standby as normal. Then I went to university and when I came back (12hours later) I could not turn it on again. First I thought the battery would be empty, but I got it to boot up again by pressing the power button for about 10s.
I have firmware version .17 and I rootet it.
Also i read that the problem may be caused by:
- setting wifi to turn off in standby
- adobe flash player being installed
So I want to ask, if you have either set the wifi to turn off in standby or installed adobe flash player when the problem occured. I have both and now tried to set the wifi to always stay awake.
I'll report tomorrow if it helped
Yes i have adobe flash installed. I also have the wifi set to "Always". It never happened anymore since my last few posts
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It doesn't sound like the device were turned off,
I think what you guys are experiencing is the sleep of death issue.
When you guy boot it up in the morning, I does it boot up the first time you hold the power bottom, and or you haven't to press it again after the first time didn't work?
Already confirmed mine isnt the sleep of death. Refer to my previous posts
I guess I experienced the sleep of death issue... Do you know what causes this problem and how it can be solved?
PS: This morning I could wake up my device normally.
Adobe flash installed
Wi-Fi turns off when asleep setting on
Unit wakes in morning no problem before and after firmware flash.
I had this same issue after rooting my new TF300T and installing QuickBoot.
After uninstalling, I no longer had any issue with it shutting down
Actually this has happened to me twice this week including today. I leave mine in the dock overnight to charge and when I go to use it in the afternoon, it's completely shut down. When it wasn't responding to any of the dock buttons, I hit the on/off button and it still wasn't responding. It wasn't until I long pressed the power button that the boot up started. I have no idea what happened. I'm rooted but not unlocked with the latest firmware update. I also had it on performance mode before charging. It never did this before the last firmware update.
Anyone else encountered this problem ?
I've had my Nexus 4 for 3 days now.
I turn my phone off every night. So two nights for this phone. Each time I have turned it off it has been fully charged, with the battery indicator and a third party app both showing 100 %. The next morning (about 8 hours later) I'm finding the battery has dropped to ~85%, so losing ~2% per hour when powered off.
Anyone else encountered this or know how to deal with it (before I contact Google)
Note - to power off I press the power stud until the Power Off menu appears, select Power Off, then click on OK to shut the phone down.
This is with Android 4.2.1
It takes power to turn the phone on. 15% might be a little much but it is not unlikely.
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15% does sound a little high. OP, how's the battery life during daily/normal usage?
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15% does sound a little high. OP, how's the battery life during daily/normal usage?
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Battery life has actually been decent, I think I'm getting better usage than my old HTC Desire Z with extended battery. I'm not a heavy user, though I have been using it for music at work.
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Anyone else encountered this problem ?
I've had my Nexus 4 for 3 days now.
I turn my phone off every night. So two nights for this phone. Each time I have turned it off it has been fully charged, with the battery indicator and a third party app both showing 100 %. The next morning (about 8 hours later) I'm finding the battery has dropped to ~85%, so losing ~2% per hour when powered off.
Anyone else encountered this or know how to deal with it (before I contact Google)
Note - to power off I press the power stud until the Power Off menu appears, select Power Off, then click on OK to shut the phone down.
This is with Android 4.2.1
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It takes a huge amount of battery power to start the phone from complete off, this also skews the first reading of the battery voltage as it will be lowered by the draw of power to start the phone so the indicator will read lower than it's true capacity.
The best solution is just put your phone in airplane mode at night, and turn airplane mode off in the morning, this is more power efficient than shutting the phone down using "power off", and you shouldn't see any battery drain apart from a percent or so doing this.
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You can tell you guys never turn your phones off Starting up should have no battery drain - never been an issue on any of my previous phones and PDAs (last one also being Android).
I rang Google and they had never seen it before but recommended draining then fully charging the battery.
Friday night I made sur it was fully charged before unplugging and shutting down - next morning on turning on - 99% - result. Saturday/Sunday the same (note SAturday i fully drained then recharged the battery). This morning boots up with just 82%.
Looks like either it can't work out when it's fully charged, else there's some disharge mechanism in place to protect the battery and that's causing me issues.
It probably wasn't really at 100% even it was reporting as such. The reporting is broken. So when you rebooted you saw the real battery level.
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I was just about to start a thread on this and then saw this thread here. So I'll ask here. I travel overseas a lot. So while I am on the plane I plug the phone in while off to charge it. I hit the power button occasionally to check the charge and when it shows "Full" I unplug it and throw it in my bag.
2 days later, I come back to the US and turn the phone on and the battery is usually below 50% even though it stated it was fully charged when I unplugged it.
So how does the battery drain if the phone is off?
I just sent my first Nexus 4 in for RMA on this very issue (if left for long enough it would just fully discharge), got the replacement on Friday, did a charge cycle, charged the phone fully up whilst off, took it off the charger (the official Nexus charger btw), and let it sit for the last day, just turned it on, and it's at 60%.... W T F !!!
This is sooo totally bizarre! I can only assume that this is common to most Nexus 4 (what are the odds of me getting two bad ones - direct from Google - with the exact the same issue?), and that people just aren't noticing, as most people don't leave their phones off after fully charging, and thus just never notice, as the battery behaves perfectly normally under usual use.
I would gratefully appreciate it if people could put this to the test, so I know whether or not to RMA the second device or not....
dapprman said:
Anyone else encountered this problem ?
I've had my Nexus 4 for 3 days now.
I turn my phone off every night. So two nights for this phone. Each time I have turned it off it has been fully charged, with the battery indicator and a third party app both showing 100 %. The next morning (about 8 hours later) I'm finding the battery has dropped to ~85%, so losing ~2% per hour when powered off.
Anyone else encountered this or know how to deal with it (before I contact Google)
Note - to power off I press the power stud until the Power Off menu appears, select Power Off, then click on OK to shut the phone down.
This is with Android 4.2.1
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Are you using a custom rom, maybe its only sleeping.
Can't speak for the OP - but for me, no on both devices - totally stock. The latest one, box fresh on Friday! Also, the phone is most definitely OFF, and not just sleeping, ie, I press the power button & choose the "power off" option from the pop up. Unfortunately there's no way to really test this, by pulling the battery...
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Can't speak for the OP - but for me, no on both devices - totally stock. The latest one, box fresh on Friday! Also, the phone is most definitely OFF, and not just sleeping, ie, I press the power button & choose the "power off" option from the pop up. Unfortunately there's no way to really test this, by pulling the battery...
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Why not just leave it charging when it's off..
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It probably wasn't really at 100% even it was reporting as such. The reporting is broken. So when you rebooted you saw the real battery level.
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Nah - I tested it multiple times on my first phone. One time I left it for over two days and the battery went from "reporting 100%" to being under 10% whilst turned off!! Also on all the charges - I deliberately would leave the phone on the charger for multiple hours, even after it was reporting 100%, as I had the same suspicion. Often I'd leave it to charge overnight...
I have never had this issue with any other phone, or with my Nexus 7 (which I have subsequently tested in this respect, and it is perfectly capable of holding a charge whilst off)
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Why not just leave it charging when it's off..
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It's not so much that it's a practical issue, it's more that I'm worried that it might indicative of a larger hardware based defect, and I'm not happy spending my hard earned cash on faulty goods.
If it's a very common complaint/fault then I won't bother to RMA the second one, but if I'm just ridiculously unlucky, and very few people are experiencing this totally weird behaviour, then I'll take my chances on a third...
Also, I don't think it's too much to ask to be able to turn my phone off to prevent it from losing any more charge. I can think of a plethora of scenarios where this would be extremely useful...
I'm now convinced of three things.
1. Android 4.2.1 can not properly read the battery state
2. Shutting down the phone does NOT do that, but rather puts it in to a hybernate mode that still requires battery charge
3. There is a fundamental design flaw in the phone that part causes this.
Most mornings I find my previously shut down at 100% charged phone at only 80-85%, though occasionally it is as high as 97-99, but not often.
Oh and my ROM is stock, my phone is not rooted.
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I'm now convinced of three things.
1. Android 4.2.1 can not properly read the battery state
2. Shutting down the phone does NOT do that, but rather puts it in to a hybernate mode that still requires battery charge
3. There is a fundamental design flaw in the phone that part causes this.
Most mornings I find my previously shut down at 100% charged phone at only 80-85%, though occasionally it is as high as 97-99, but not often.
Oh and my ROM is stock, my phone is not rooted.
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I agree on all counts apart from the first, as my nexus 7 and my Mum's Nexus 10 behave totally normally in this respect, both on 4.2.1 and 4.2.2 (both stock/unrooted, although the Nexus 7 was rooted/bl-unlocked for a time).
Also, I don't believe it's a miss reading of the battery state, as I often leave the device charging for multiple hours after it reports 100%, by which point it simply must be fully charged. What's more - if you leave the device off for long enough it will fully discharge! The craziest thing is that the phone's battery seems to drain quicker when it's 'turned off", than when it's powered on and sleeping. Seriously WTF.
It must be something to do with either the LG hardware, or LG specific code in the Google ROM. Obviously the phone is incapable of properly shutting down, which is pretty crappy for a so called "flagship" device. As someone who likes to have full control of their device, I find it more than a wee bit irksome, that I don't have the ability to completely shutdown my phone! This is also where the irremovable battery is annoying, because there's no way to test whether it's a hardware or software issue, although I guess I could try a custom ROM and see if it still happens.... however I don't really wanna root & rom if I'm going to RMA it....
I'm really interested to know how many other people have this defect and don't even realise it, because their phone is either in use or charging! I find it hard to believe that I could be unlucky enough to have got two uniquely defective devices in a row...
I'd really appreciate it if people could check their devices for this issue, both on stock and custom ROMs, see if we can work out whether it's HW or SW related...
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This is also where the irremovable battery is annoying, because there's no way to test whether it's a hardware or software issue
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You could try powering it off with the bootloader. After you power off normally, hold power and volume down, when the bootloader menu comes on use volume keys to select power off and power button to confirm.
I'm hard pressed to believe the battery in my device would fully discharge if left off, when the phone arrived the battery wasn't dead, I got about three hours of solid tinkering before it died.
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You could try powering it off with the bootloader. After you power off normally, hold power and volume down, when the bootloader menu comes on use volume keys to select power off and power button to confirm.
I'm hard pressed to believe the battery in my device would fully discharge if left off, when the phone arrived the battery wasn't dead, I got about three hours of solid tinkering before it died.
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That's a good point. Mine came out of the box at about 80%.... hmmm. It could be that once it's first turned on it won't turn off again... this is such an odd issue! I shall try powering off from the bootloader next time, I'd still love to hear if other people's phones exhibit this anomaly though...
I'm aware that it's hard to believe issue, but there's only one way to find out...
I'm also very curious to know if loading a custom rom might solve it. I'm far less concerned if it's a software issue, I just don't want to have spend £250 on defective hardware.
I'm 100% stock, no Custom ROM nor kernal (kernel?) and my phone WILL discharge if left unplugged and "off". Happens every time I come back from overseas. Fully charge it up on the plane (even left the phone on but in airplane mode to 100% thinking that it was a misread of the battery level when the phone was "off") and still the same issue... turn it on a few days later and the charge is down to 75% or so....
I thought I was losing it... but I'm not the only one...
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I'm 100% stock, no Custom ROM nor kernal (kernel?) and my phone WILL discharge if left unplugged and "off". Happens every time I come back from overseas. Fully charge it up on the plane (even left the phone on but in airplane mode to 100% thinking that it was a misread of the battery level when the phone was "off") and still the same issue... turn it on a few days later and the charge is down to 75% or so....
I thought I was losing it... but I'm not the only one...
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Ha - me too! With the first one, I actually went into a weird sort of denial, where I kept convincing myself that I must of got it wrong, it just seemed so absurd! Eventually I put it to the test (multiple times) and realized that my memory wasn't as bad as I'd been trying to persuade myself and the phone was in fact discharging when "off".
Anyone else?
Just got the update to 4.2.2 and have got my fingers firmly crossed that it's now a squished bug... although somehow I think it's more likely an LG/hardware issue...
What you could try to do it charge the battery to 100%, hold the power button for 10 seconds until it fully shuts itself off. Leave it overnight and see the battery level is at the next day.