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should i return this iconia?

Hello all,
I bought my iconia tab last Tues. I am a big fan of android. But I have used an I pad since they were released. Now I'm not going to make comparisons, but I'm thinking I may have received a bad unit. Or maybeothers can verify my findings.
Battery life is horrible.
I barely get 4 hours of use before I need to go running for the charger.
Random shutdowns and reboot.
Unit will shutdown at random, even when I'm using it. And it reboot any time it loses a wifi source. Ex. I have a mobile hotspot. If I shut the hotspot off, the iconia will reboot when it loses the signal.
Screen on/off all day.
When I put the unit in standby, the screen turns on and off about evey 2 minutes.
Laggy keyboard.
Even as I type this, the keyboard is extremly laggy.
I am running this unit stock now, nothing extra has been installed.
I even did a factory reset and hard reset.
Ii have not received any updates, although I check all the time. I'm still on the 1.104. Build.
Any suggestions? Thanks.

from your description, yeah, you should probably return this unit...

just return my device is not that bad, battery last 1 day with normal use, never random shut down
the only thing i got troubled with is screen on/off , that is solved by pressing powerr button several times, very annoying actuallly

I've gotten 2 days of moderate use, I usually charge every night but unless I'm playing games for hours at a time I'm usually @ 40% before I plug in.
If the tab is rebooting on a frequent basis, particularly if you can do it on demand, definitely return it.
The screen random on should be fixed by the .141 update

I don't want to start anything but when i read "Should I return it?" and your posting it in this forum, then most likely the person posting it (if you found this forum) knows a little about it. But to read, it shuts off, battery life is terrible, etc..
I dont use it all day but i will use it with lowest brightness, 1 min timeout, and i dont use twitter or play movies, but get like 5-8 days on a charge.. NOW, one key thing, i turn the power OFF when done using it and does hold the battery much better (I never tried airplane mode)..
Never mind, got off on a rant from the thread...unrelated, there are some very cool news apps that are out now for HC.

Ok. Returned it for a fresh unit. Letting it get a full charge before I do anything with it.
Fyi. Previous unit only gave me 4 hours. Regardless if I was using it or it was sitting in standby.
Does anyone know of a way to get the 141 update without rooting?
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BadGrim said:
Ok. Returned it for a fresh unit. Letting it get a full charge before I do anything with it.
Fyi. Previous unit only gave me 4 hours. Regardless if I was using it or it was sitting in standby.
Does anyone know of a way to get the 141 update without rooting?
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For the first time since I bought it I haven't used my device for a day. In around 22 hours of standby it lost 3% battery.
So draining in 4 hours in standby sounds completly defective to me.

when I got mine
battery was at 50%
I used it during the day, and when the battery was arround 5% I did a full charge
- regular usage : 1day ++
- working usage : 8 hours (web apps dev...)
4 hours, use it or not it's awfull...
Wish you got better now

interqd said:
just return my device is not that bad, battery last 1 day with normal use, never random shut down
the only thing i got troubled with is screen on/off , that is solved by pressing powerr button several times, very annoying actuallly
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What kind of screen problem? Is it turning on randomly while in stand by or the other way around, turning off while in use?
And for my future reference, how do you do returns in Indonesia? Do you take it to the store or to the service center (or either)? Thanks in advance!

iqbalbaskara said:
What kind of screen problem? Is it turning on randomly while in stand by or the other way around, turning off while in use?
And for my future reference, how do you do returns in Indonesia? Do you take it to the store or to the service center (or either)? Thanks in advance!
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Yes, the screen would randomy turn on/off while in standby.
The other. The tablet would actually power off while i was using it, not just th screen, the entire thing.

iqbalbaskara said:
What kind of screen problem? Is it turning on randomly while in stand by or the other way around, turning off while in use?
And for my future reference, how do you do returns in Indonesia? Do you take it to the store or to the service center (or either)? Thanks in advance!
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its turning on randomly while standby, usually i have to pres power button 3 or 4 times before it went off without turning on again...
i think its not possible to return to the store here, just take to the service centre... but i dont know if they will give new device.. as i know here only apple , blackberry and samsung that will give new device if found defective ..

Never go to deep sleep after 8.6.5.21

Hi all,
I have updated to new FW 8.6.5.21 yesterday. After update, I still saw that can go to deep sleep mode. But after full charge, old problem still happend, never go to deep sleep mode again.
I have no dock.
Does anyone know how to fix????

There was a post about this earlier. Here you go.
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For those of you that have a transformer that wont deep sleep whether its on or off the dock, doesnt matter you can get a app for that. its called Auto Airplane Mode, and it puts your transformer in airplane mode each and every time you turn the screen off, i have noticed a huge difference in battery life after installing this app. using Cpuspy my transformer went into deep sleep for 10 mins max a night for the last week. installed Auto Airplane Mode and the transformer goes into deep sleep within a min of turning screen off now. I already had the wifi set to turn off when screen is off and everything, the only thing i did was add this app.
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Airplane mode wasn't the answer before and isn't the answer now. I haven't charged my transformer since the update so don't know if it is happening to mine but if it is the same as before then it isn't radios that is causing the problem its a bug in the OS that never lets it go into deep sleep after charging. A reboot after charging usually sorted it until the next charge. That is so long as you don't have a dock because the tab thinks it is being charged when on the dock. I hope they haven't introduced this bug again because it was a real PITA when it had it before.

v8code said:
Airplane mode wasn't the answer before and isn't the answer now. I haven't charged my transformer since the update so don't know if it is happening to mine but if it is the same as before then it isn't radios that is causing the problem its a bug in the OS that never lets it go into deep sleep after charging. A reboot after charging usually sorted it until the next charge. That is so long as you don't have a dock because the tab thinks it is being charged when on the dock. I hope they haven't introduced this bug again because it was a real PITA when it had it before.
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I also installed Auto Airplane app, but I think it is not the solutions, still no deep sleep. Because I have no dock, after charging, I reboot but still no deep sleep. Now I have to charge everyday

Mine is fine. Deep sleep verified with cpu spy.
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Mine keeps disabling the setting : turn wifi off when screen turns off.
This update is ****ed up!

mine goes into deep sleep perfectly now since the update, it wouldnt before unless I used the auto airplane app. Battery life is much better now.

mine wasn't sleeping, till i did a factory reset. now its sleeping as it should.

I am having the same problem since the update. CPU Spy indicates that it is in Deep Sleep, but I am having constant battery drain in AND out of the dock. Battery says that wifi is doing the damage. I have it clicked to sleep when screen timesout. Auto Airplane Mode worked. I am not happy though. I should not have to use it.

Mine doesn't sleeping whether install Auto Airplane mode or not. I'll try to factory reset....

Happy to say mine is still OK after the update. It till goes into deep sleep as it should.

v8code said:
Happy to say mine is still OK after the update. It till goes into deep sleep as it should.
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Lucky guy....
I tried fatory reset, but nothing change. Still not sleep...

How come my transformer instead of going into a completely dormant sleep mode it goes into a sleep mode where every one minute according to the clock it flashes on the screen for a few seconds just to show the time on the lock screen???

Assdikes said:
How come my transformer instead of going into a completely dormant sleep mode it goes into a sleep mode where every one minute according to the clock it flashes on the screen for a few seconds just to show the time on the lock screen???
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Damn, this looks like the problem I'm having: when I check what's draining the battery, the first place with 58% is Screen! I didn't see the screen flash, though.
Upd. Yes! This is exactly the issue I'm having! I checked - the screen turns on from time to time, not every minute, but still... so no deep sleep for me here

skeve said:
Damn, this looks like the problem I'm having: when I check what's draining the battery, the first place with 58% is Screen! I didn't see the screen flash, though.
Upd. Yes! This is exactly the issue I'm having! I checked - the screen turns on from time to time, not every minute, but still... so no deep sleep for me here
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Need to check permissions on your apps as they change with updates. some apps keep the TF from sleeping others wake it up periodically to check for mail or other syncs. Need to check them all as some things you might never expect like free games keep it alive.

I'm really stuck with this problem. After full reset and only one app installed (Dual Battery Widget) Transformer spends some time in deep sleep, then suddenly wakes up. You can see it on the attached screenshot. I have no idea what happened around 3 am when the device woke up and never went to deep sleep after that.

skeve said:
I'm really stuck with this problem. After full reset and only one app installed (Dual Battery Widget) Transformer spends some time in deep sleep, then suddenly wakes up. You can see it on the attached screenshot. I have no idea what happened around 3 am when the device woke up and never went to deep sleep after that.
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I think mine have the same problem. Sometime it go to sleep mode, but I don't know when. Event after reboot, no application running, still not sleep....

I had this problem with mine, it turned out to be some of the apps kept waking it, and then it wouldn't go back into deep sleep. I uninstalled some of them and haven't looked back since. Specifically Facebook was a big problem, even with no syncing.

JoshX said:
I had this problem with mine, it turned out to be some of the apps kept waking it, and then it wouldn't go back into deep sleep. I uninstalled some of them and haven't looked back since. Specifically Facebook was a big problem, even with no syncing.
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The only app installed is Dual Battery Widget (I did a factory reset). Could it be the reason?

Maybe with this you can see more.

Random shutdowns?

Has anybody experienced random shutdowns on their N4? It's happened twice now for me in the last few days. I'll go to turn on the screen and find that the phone is completely shut down and needs powered back up, without me having shut the phone down.
One strange thing associated with this is that it completely wipes my battery stats.

Please provide more information.
Stock? Unlocked? Rooted? Custom rom? Custome kernel? Undervolted?

spitefulcheerio said:
Please provide more information.
Stock? Unlocked? Rooted? Custom rom? Custome kernel? Undervolted?
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Sorry, stock rooted. Both times happened when there was plenty of juice left in the battery, this morning when it happened I was still at 95%.

hfuizo said:
Sorry, stock rooted. Both times happened when there was plenty of juice left in the battery, this morning when it happened I was still at 95%.
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Are you sure it's actually shutting down?
The reason I ask is that there's an issue where the screen won't wake up, but the phone is still functional (can still hear notifications and feel vibrations etc.). It looks like it's shut down, but it actually isn't.
If so then I believe it's a known issue, even on the stock (unrooted) rom. It happens to me every now and then, and as far as I know it needs a hard reboot to fix (hold down the power button for 10 seconds).
Don't know what you mean by wiping your battery stats? A reboot would do that anyway, wouldn't it?

hfuizo said:
Sorry, stock rooted. Both times happened when there was plenty of juice left in the battery, this morning when it happened I was still at 95%.
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There's a video on youtube showing how this phone just shuts down after running a benchmark for long enough (that was about 10 minutes at normal room temperature..)
Could it be that your phone was doing something in the background, and because of the overheating issues that it has, it just shut down to prevent damage?

jb91 said:
There's a video on youtube showing how this phone just shuts down after running a benchmark for long enough (that was about 10 minutes at normal room temperature..)
Could it be that your phone was doing something in the background, and because of the overheating issues that it has, it just shut down to prevent damage?
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I wasn't doing anything significant right before hand. The last things I did were: checked Facebook, modified a Tasker profile, and swiped away a couple apps from the recent apps screen. Phone was cool to the touch. I was in the basement with no cell coverage (wifi connected), then moved upstairs and next time I tried to turn on the screen the phone was powered off.

Shodney said:
Are you sure it's actually shutting down?
The reason I ask is that there's an issue where the screen won't wake up, but the phone is still functional (can still hear notifications and feel vibrations etc.). It looks like it's shut down, but it actually isn't.
If so then I believe it's a known issue, even on the stock (unrooted) rom. It happens to me every now and then, and as far as I know it needs a hard reboot to fix (hold down the power button for 10 seconds).
Don't know what you mean by wiping your battery stats? A reboot would do that anyway, wouldn't it?
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No it was shut down, had to hold down the power button for 2 seconds to boot it, felt the boot vibration and saw the boot animation. This happened after being off charger for about 2 hours, but upon booting the battery screen showed on battery for 1 minute. Usually when I reboot the "on battery" time is preserved.

Shodney said:
Are you sure it's actually shutting down?
The reason I ask is that there's an issue where the screen won't wake up, but the phone is still functional (can still hear notifications and feel vibrations etc.). It looks like it's shut down, but it actually isn't.
If so then I believe it's a known issue, even on the stock (unrooted) rom. It happens to me every now and then, and as far as I know it needs a hard reboot to fix (hold down the power button for 10 seconds).
Don't know what you mean by wiping your battery stats? A reboot would do that anyway, wouldn't it?
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Is there a fix for the screen not waking? I'm still on 4.2(stock and rooted), does 4.2.1 fix it? I can't seem to update to 4.2.1, if it does fix it. But that's another issue...

Ya know I'm starting to think it may be my belt holster that's somehow shutting down the phone. This is the first day of my new holster and now the phone has shut itself down 3 times, each time I've noticed it after pulling it from the holster.

hfuizo said:
Has anybody experienced random shutdowns on their N4? It's happened twice now for me in the last few days. I'll go to turn on the screen and find that the phone is completely shut down and needs powered back up, without me having shut the phone down.
One strange thing associated with this is that it completely wipes my battery stats.
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I only had N$ for 3 days.
Yesterday when I was taking a picture, camera app was running, while I was putting kids together phone screen went black. Only way to bring it back was to hold power button and it went through full boot up cycle, so I would say it did shut down on me.
Stock, no root, updated to the 4.2.1. Battery was between 50 and 75% and it did not wipe it's stats.

stud_muffler said:
I only had N$ for 3 days.
Yesterday when I was taking a picture, camera app was running, while I was putting kids together phone screen went black. Only way to bring it back was to hold power button and it went through full boot up cycle, so I would say it did shut down on me.
Stock, no root, updated to the 4.2.1. Battery was between 50 and 75% and it did not wipe it's stats.
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Oh man that's gotta suck. Worst moment possible. Mine has shut down as well several times.

I find that my phone likes to randomly reboot when using bluetooth. May be a coincidence or not. At times the widget toggle for bluetooth stops working too, so there's something going on with bluetooth. My bluetooth problems documented here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040796

hfuizo said:
Ya know I'm starting to think it may be my belt holster that's somehow shutting down the phone. This is the first day of my new holster and now the phone has shut itself down 3 times, each time I've noticed it after pulling it from the holster.
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Does anybody know a sequence of button pushes that will shut down the device? I know holding power for 10 seconds causes a reset, but is there a combination of button pushes that initiates shutdown?

hfuizo said:
Does anybody know a sequence of button pushes that will shut down the device? I know holding power for 10 seconds causes a reset, but is there a combination of button pushes that initiates shutdown?
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If you hold just power button it should bring a popup with Power Off option, which is a standard for most Android phones.

hfuizo said:
Has anybody experienced random shutdowns on their N4? It's happened twice now for me in the last few days. I'll go to turn on the screen and find that the phone is completely shut down and needs powered back up, without me having shut the phone down.
One strange thing associated with this is that it completely wipes my battery stats.
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I have the same issue recently. I've used nexus 4 for 1 month, this issue just occurred recently. it shutdown without any notice. I've drop my phone once, cracking its glass back, but it doesn't seem to relate to that issue. I guess maybe this is some software problem.

Nexus 4 switching off at night while charging

I know this has been discussed plenty of times but I just have some more questions of my own I'd like to ask.
So my N4 just switches off over night after being charged to like 95-100%.
It is usually fully charged (green LED) but won't turn on if I want to wake the screen.
I have to hold the power button for like 5 seconds for it to switch off. Then I am able to boot it again.
If i just unplug the charger, wait like 30s to a minute, the screen will wake, it works as usual. But the phone restarted (!!!) without any boot animation or anything. Just like nothing happened. If I then go into settings -> battery you can see the phone switched on just a minute ago.
This is happening like everynight for me now, so I had to use my old phone as an alarm clock as I slept in quite a few times actually
I searched like all forums and tried everything but I cannot dissolve this issue.
I even turned off deep sleep in dev options and stuff alike, monitored temperatures and stuff. Nothing conclusive though.
So I just have no idea why this keeps happening.
It happened with different roms and different kernels. Root or not rooted.
A friend of mine has a N4 as well and he does not have this problem at all. He does not have a custom rom flashed or anything.
But I read on other forums that even users with stock rom had this problems.
I think this is a quite common problem with the Nexus 4 device, isn't it?
Anyone solved it yet? Or does at least know the CAUSE for this?
I mean srsly there is like nothing on the forums..
Is it software related? Hardware related? Did I **** something up?
Is this a valid reason to send my phone back to google and get a new (working) one?
Everything else just works flawlessly. I mean the N4 with PA on it works so smooth like a charm.
I DO NOT WANT TO GIVE IT BACK!

noone? really?

I don't remember this being a common problem, though maybe I missed something.
If I was you I would wipe everything and re-flash stock. Then if it still happens return the phone, it shouldn't be doing that and I wouldn't put up with that if it was my phone. But it's your choice.
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I have the same problem and I believe that this and similar issues are becoming increasingly mentioned on various sites on the net. XDA tread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2077148 which gives some idea as to what people are doing to get to the bottom of the problem.
There is further info here - https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=35139 which starts with Sleep of Death issues on JB4.1.1 (on the Galaxy Nexus but has more recently focused on the Nexus 4).
Initially the problem occurred maybe 3 times a week. I'm running a Stock N4 and whether stock or custom does not seem to make any difference.
I re-flashed a stock image and thought I had solved the problem. The phone ran okay for a few weeks and then reverted to random SOD's normally at night whilst charging. If I use airplane mode at night I have no problems. It has also become unresponsive/deep sleep on three occasions during the day. More recently I have stopped leaving wifi enabled unless I need it I no longer use airplane mode and have not had any further problems --- so far ---
For me at least, the problem might be wifi related.

This happened to me this morning. I have my phone on charge every night and it probably hits 100% about 3am every morning. I have the alarm set at 7am to wake me, and has done every morning since I got it last month. However I have now slept in twice (this morning was catastrophic) due to waking up to find my phone was switched off and my alarm subsequently didnt sound!! I have wifi left on, but all my apps are closed down, and only the alarm app running.
To switch it back on I have to hold the down the power button for in between 5-10 seconds for it to reboot.
Does anyone know why this is happening? The Nexus 4 is perfect in every other way, I'm gutted to find a fault after raving so much about it!

Same thing is happening to me every night !

I have the same problem, but it happens sporadically, so I never know when I'm going to end up sleeping in. It's infuriating.
It just happened again this morning. I had Wi-Fi disabled, so I know it has nothing to do with that.

Tronno1 said:
I have the same problem, but it happens sporadically, so I never know when I'm going to end up sleeping in. It's infuriating.
It just happened again this morning. I had Wi-Fi disabled, so I know it has nothing to do with that.
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Sounds like a rogue app is triggering the phone to crash or something?
Have you tried a factory reset?

This bs caused me to be late to a final exam... I was so mad when I woke up and saw that it was 2 hours later than the time my alarm was set to sound.. Only started happening with 4.4+ updates.
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Factory reset?
Sent from my Nexus 4, while driving in my Evo9.

Hey man,
My girlfriends nexus 4 did this as well and she got it RMA'd with no questions asked and a brand new one sent out, they told her to do a factory reset; this worked for a few days then went back to normal again.
- Sent from my Nexus 7

Charging cable
I have had this problem eventually with every android phone I've ever owned but it seems by replacing the charging cable with a new one the problem goes away. It seems that there is a weird thing with android where if the cable doesn't sit completely snug or straight the battery can charge but the phone won't realize this and go to sleep. Also seen the opposite happen where the phone thinks that the battery is charging and in fact it hasn't. When you unplug it suddenly goes from full charge to nothing. Haven't seen that last one on my Nexus 4 yet though. So I would try replacing the cable (not necessarily the charger) usually worked for me on other phones. Also I would suggest not to leave the phone and cable hanging off the end of a table. Make sure it's in enough that it sits flat. I think this is how I slightly bent mine.

[Q] Nexus 4 shuts off every night - requires force restart

Hey guys, so I'm not sure what's going on but myself and several people on reddit are experiencing this issue:
http://www.reddit.com/r/nexus4/comments/1j7o85/n4_shuts_off_overnight_after_43_update/
Every morning since I've gotten 4.3 update, my nexus 4 shuts itself off throughout the night. It does not boot up until I force a shutdown (volume up and power) AND THEN try to power it on.
My nexus is completely stock, it has not been rooted or even bootloader unlocked. It seems to work fine regardless, but I like to keep my phone on in case of an emergency.
Can someone shed some light on this?

pastasauce said:
Hey guys, so I'm not sure what's going on but myself and several people on reddit are experiencing this issue:
http://www.reddit.com/r/nexus4/comments/1j7o85/n4_shuts_off_overnight_after_43_update/
Every morning since I've gotten 4.3 update, my nexus 4 shuts itself off throughout the night. It does not boot up until I force a shutdown (volume up and power) AND THEN try to power it on.
My nexus is completely stock, it has not been rooted or even bootloader unlocked. It seems to work fine regardless, but I like to keep my phone on in case of an emergency.
Can someone shed some light on this?
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This sounds like the sleep of death issue. User tkolev has written the Safe Charge app to prevent this from happening when the Nexus 4 is charging. You can read his discussion of the issue at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2226698. The app is available at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sash.sodeliminator.

BobWalker said:
This sounds like the sleep of death issue. User tkolev has written the Safe Charge app to prevent this from happening when the Nexus 4 is charging. You can read his discussion of the issue at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2226698. The app is available at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sash.sodeliminator.
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Thanks for the info Bob. However, I don't charge my phone throughout the night, so I don't think it's that.
It's not the battery either because when I do power it up, it's usually at least 40%+ battery. I'm really at a loss as to what could be causing this.

pastasauce said:
Thanks for the info Bob. However, I don't charge my phone throughout the night, so I don't think it's that.
It's not the battery either because when I do power it up, it's usually at least 40%+ battery. I'm really at a loss as to what could be causing this.
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Sleep of death happens when the Nexus 4 is in deep sleep mode and fails to respond to a key press and can occur whether or not the phone is charging at the time. If you are able to charge the phone overnight, I would install and enable Safe Charge to see if it keeps the problem from occurring at night.

BobWalker said:
Sleep of death happens when the Nexus 4 is in deep sleep mode and fails to respond to a key press and can occur whether or not the phone is charging at the time. If you are able to charge the phone overnight, I would install and enable Safe Charge to see if it keeps the problem from occurring at night.
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That's terrible . It only started when I updated to 4.3, and unfortunately I can't charge overnight. I'm guessing the Safe Charge app drains battery? If so, I don't think that would work.
Is there seriously no other way to solve this issue than a wakelock work around? It seems pretty significant to simply ignore on Google's part.

i hate to say it, but you may have to do a factory reset to determine whether or not its the phone, or some app that you have installed that is not playing nice with the update.

I've found the issue, turns out Netflix's chromecast update screwed up with 4.3:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1jdenw/psa_if_you_have_netflix_read_this_before_updating/
Fix: Uninstall Netflix or stay on 4.2.2 until resolved. Thanks guys.

It keeps shutting off at 3:07 every night?
Demons
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