I'm having problems with It shutting off overnight while charging. Anybody else having this problem?
bjh2379 said:
I'm having problems with It shutting off overnight while charging. Anybody else having this problem?
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I just discovered this "feature" this morning as well. -_-
Did u find how to fix this?
I love the feature where the A500's battery doesn't last overnight with the screen off. I didn't think I needed to charge it overnight since the battery was at 95% anyways, so I just set it on the table next to my bed and went to sleep. Woke up this morning and it wouldn't power on. Pretty cool. Wonder what is draining the battery? My DroidX can sit on the same table for almost a week w/o being charged.
I haven't seen it, then again I play music from getting into bed till I wake up so ill try leaving it to sleep and see what happens.
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Me too
Same issue here.
i have not tried the trick that I just found that seems to extend the batery life....I put the tablet in "airplane mode" , enable the WiFi and the battery looks like it is draining alot slower. There is power being used for "cell standby" even though is a wifi only tablet
Same problem here with shutdown on charge. Right now it seems fairly consistent-
I'm experiencing them same thing when leaving asleep for extended periods. It first happened while I was charging... now it happened again when I left for dinner and came back. I don't see any setting options for that
Same here. Thought it was a "feature" to keep from using as much battery.
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So shutting off notifications seems to stop the problem for me.. except that I don't get notifications At least it boots pretty fast
Lets run some tests, shall we?
bjh2379 said:
I'm having problems with It shutting off overnight while charging. Anybody else having this problem?
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I don't think they're shutting off, I think they're crashing/freezing during sleep and not rebooting.
This is speculation by me, and could be different for different people.
Finding the problem:
The test.
Night/Bedtime
This is an overnight/while you sleep test and requires about 2hrs. of your time beforehand. Record your figures if you can and post them for debunking. A couple hours before bed and while you use the tablet during the evening, charge it. After 100% and once it's off the charger please don't use it for anything. We want to simulate the sleep process for about 90m before bed. So if you use the tablet even for a quick web surf, plug it in and getting back to 100%. We're going to allow ~3% for errors anyway but we want to be as close to accurate as possible.
90m before you're ready for bed remove the charger. Don't use the tablet simply set the brightness to auto and take note of your battery level and the time. 60m in take a look at that battery charge again and record the time and charge level. 90m in is the last check and after this whether you go to bed or not please don't wake the tablet. Don't worry if it seems to wake and go back on it's own. That's inconsequential for this test. Just put it somewhere that no one will bother it and resist using it until you wake up. Please
Morning/Wake time
Wake it up.
1. Comes on? Record the charge level and time for posterity so we get an idea of idle drain here on the thread. Everyone gets different values. You'll have to run this test at another time as your shutdown/freeze hasn't been reproduced this time.
2. Doesn't come on? Try a power on press. Comes on? Same as 1. Record the charge level and time and post it here.
3. Doesn't come on? Try a power on press. Doesn't come on? Plug it in and power it on. Now do the same as 2. Record the charge level and time and post it here.
I hypothesize a few different scenarios the summary of which is that I don't think they're shutting down, but this is mostly based on the assumption that the batteries are being charged while the unit is frozen. If they do not charge then my entire test would have to be re-designed. I surmise they freeze and don't restart so they either run out of juice or they're actually frozen when you try to power them on and the long press is rebooting the unit, not powering it on. If I am right then we should see that the batteries are drained as if they have been on all night. This is going to be very imprecise, but my idea is that we'll take the charge % of your bedtime check which is a 60m mark check and just times that by the amt. of hours you were sleeping.
So if you were at 95% when you touched the tablet for the last time, this would mean a drain of ~5% give or take ~1% due to your use while checking, per hour. You take that and multiply it by how many hours you've slept and you'd get X x 5 = 40% which leaves the tablet with ~60% battery when you wake up, again give or take 3% for errors, syncing during the night etc.
If you're seeing a somewhat accurate numerical representation of this formula then it means the tab drained all night.
If you're seeing something way off like the tablet still having way more than it should then it means at some point in the night it really did shut down on its own.
People who are actually saying it shut off probably just reboot the tablet without realizing it as it was on the charger when it froze. Since a power off/reboot press of the power button is roughly the same length as a power on press, it's difficult to differentiate sometimes.
Solving the problem:
I have had this happen twice and it was while I left GPS on.
I haven't had an android cell phone yet that hasn't frozen or reboot itself when I left GPS on for extended periods (aka overnight) so the first time this happened I instantly knew to check and I purposely left it on the second time to reproduce and the second time, the tablet ended up rebooting not freezing. If you're not technical the easiest way to know if your tablet reboot during the night is to leave a web page or IM window on the screen or leave music playing.
You may want to skip the above "finding the problem" tests and attempt this "solving the problem" test. As I mentioned, this is all speculation so I'm just trying to get to the bottom of it and I'm sure we can as a grp.
Once you rule out hardware though, then it's a problem. So if it is indeed NOT the GPS then we're at the mercy of Acer and Google because otherwise there'd be just too many factors to track down.
I'm getting this and i'm loosing a ton of battery somewhere in the process too. I think the above poster is right.
I plug in tabby. go to bed. wake up to pee. see tabby is 100% battery. unplug and go back to bed. wake up to go to work and tabby is powered off completely and battery is anywhere between 85%-90% in a matter of 2-3 hours after being unplugged.
Its likely a rogue app I would get a program like advanced task killer watch it and see what apps are loading in background after you kill all apps.look for apps you installed.not so much the ones Acer put on your tab.
With Ti backup freeze the first one you think should not run give it a day.if that's not the issue keep going down the list.
Had a similar issue it was a app I got from amazon.that was So CALLED FREE.they are not so I uninstalled everything from amazon. No more battery drain.
SOME APPS do not fallow the drained android or social rules
Watching the apps to be sure nothing is running CPU cycles allow the time I loose about 2 to 3 % batter life over night with wifi set to stay awake.
This is ideally from 11 pm until around 10 am the fallowing day.
Yes I sleep in alot giggles
re-flashed with Taboonay v.2.0/Richardtrips v.3.3 Kernel and it fixed everything.
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re-flashed with Taboonay v.2.0/Richardtrips v.3.3 Kernel and it fixed everything.
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had this on my tab for 2 days and reflashed back to stock because battery life was awful.
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I turn my phone off last night with 50% battery left. This morning I turn the phone on and it tells me to charge the battery and then shuts off.
Here is where it gets weird; the exact same thing happened to my wife's phone except she had almost a full charge before turning it off.
What is going on?
I don't know I have gone 26 hours in mostly standby and I still have about 65-70 % of battery left. Check all your settings. I only have sync and back light to Auto turned on.
This is not normal and has never happened to me. Have you installed any apps from the market?
Little more info, please. Are your phones pre-OTA or have they been updated? Are they rooted? Did you just buy the phones? Have you trained the battery (fully charged then fully drained)? Have you done a factory reset?
Both phones are post update. Both were turned off by holding the power button then selecting "power off". Both have exactly the same apps that we had on our previous Androids (Vibrant and N1). Both bone stock. Have not factory reset, really don't want to go through the work of setup again.
I have never powered mine down completely overnight so I guess mine is not the same comparison. I might try it though just to see.
Ya they hold a great charge all day when on nut lost all their charge when powered off.
Is fastboot checked in settings or not?
esincho said:
Is fastboot checked in settings or not?
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Yes it is checked
Try unchecking it
esincho said:
Try unchecking it
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Is this a feature known to eat up battery? I mean if I left the phone on all night it would have still had a charge.
SugarMouth said:
Is this a feature known to eat up battery? I mean if I left the phone on all night it would have still had a charge.
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Idk, shooting in the dark here, never heard of a problem like what you have. Wouldn't hurt to try. I know the fastboot has something to do with the way the phone shuts down.
That battery behavior is just strange unless you have apps syncing frequently.
I unplugged last night at 1am, went to bed, and got up this morning at 8am, it went from down fully charged to 93%. I have autobrightness on, wifi on, gmail and exchange syncing, every other app that syncs I have it to sync at least every 6 hrs or once a day.
I've had this phone for 3 days now, and I'm consistently able to get 12-14 hrs of battery time, and that includes heavy internet use, radio, tv, etc.
Are you in an area where it's constantly trying to pull a signal? Maybe that's what's eating the battery?
Are you doing the steps to condition the battery? Charge until fully charged, turn it off and keep it charged another hour, then take it off charge and use it until it completely dies on its own, charge it back up again and then use as normal?
Yeah, but he saying he powered the phone down, not left it on and just idle. Now that's strange
nmw407 said:
That battery behavior is just strange unless you have apps syncing frequently.
I unplugged last night at 1am, went to bed, and got up this morning at 8am, it went from down fully charged to 93%. I have autobrightness on, wifi on, gmail and exchange syncing, every other app that syncs I have it to sync at least every 6 hrs or once a day.
I've had this phone for 3 days now, and I'm consistently able to get 12-14 hrs of battery time, and that includes heavy internet use, radio, tv, etc.
Are you in an area where it's constantly trying to pull a signal? Maybe that's what's eating the battery?
Are you doing the steps to condition the battery? Charge until fully charged, turn it off and keep it charged another hour, then take it off charge and use it until it completely dies on its own, charge it back up again and then use as normal?
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Yes but he is powering completely down not just in standby mode so nothing would be syncing. I will try this tonight and see if I have the same thing.
My wife had about 75% charge, I had about 50% charge. We both held the power button until the menu came up, we hit "power off". Both of our phones had dead batteries this morning.
I would download spare parts and see what apps are using ur battery
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I would download spare parts and see what apps are using ur battery
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None of this would matter cause the phones are powered off.
If you have fastboot checked, the phone is not actually turning off. It goes into a quasi-sleep state and some low level processes may be running. That said, your problem may be related to the following thread:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=839935
the fix: enable USB debugging mode.
Another possibility, and this is someting that's happened to me in the past: the phones may be plugged into an outlet that loses power when you turn off the lights at night
Fast boot is similar to a Windows computer going into hibernation or standby mode.
Mine has been acting weird since Friday. I woke up and it totally discharged overnight... it was 100% charged when I went to bed. Yesterday it was laggy constantly and the battery has been draining at least twice as fast. Today phone locks up constantly.. apps are force closing.
... have rebooted, pulled the battery, etc... phone has gone from a dream to a nightmare in that respect.
Gonna double check my debug settings and see what happens.
EDIT: debug was turned off. I turned it on... will report back if there is a change.
UPDATE: Turning on USB debugging and a reboot seems to have fixed it. Battery drain `back to normal.
Prior to ICS my tf101 would last a good 3-4 days on a fully charged battery with my normal usage during the week. Yesterday I installed ICS went to sleep with just over 50%, it had suffered some heavy usage yesterday, and woke up to a completely flat and switched off tablet this morning. This is very unusual performance for my tab.
When I installed ICS I did a factory reset to clean up my tab so only have a pinch of the apps I had previously installed. One thing I did notice is on the battery tab of system settings the tablet was awake 100% of the time were traditionally it would only have a blue mark were it was in use on the awake line. Battery usage data is unavailable, too, so cant see what is causing tablet not to sleep.
Any suggestions?
I would wait until it settles a bit more, plus wait for a custom rom. It probably has some bug, seeing as it is the first ICS for our device.
I also notice some battery drain last week
on HC and ICS
right now i reverted back to honeycomb
ill update you later
if anything changes to me
MyZine Widget
Got rid of the MyZine widget and my tablet now goes to sleep in standby. I noticed, when browsing the running apps list, that the app kept 'restarting' so it could buggy or at the least was having a problem with my tab.
Prior to ICS my battery drain was crazy, especially if I leave wifi on. Not anymore, it's back to normal consumption like I had before the last HC firmware update.
I had the same problem this morning.
take cpu spy to have a look if the tablet goes into depp sleep.
https://market.android.com/details?...251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5idmFsb3Nlay5jcHVzcHkiXQ..
i had to reboot and then everything was fine...
I've still got problems with my tab. Returned to it after a few hours non-use and it had shutdown itself. Battery Drain still seems an issue too. I'll install that app and see what it reports.
Check WiFi disconnection policy and if GPS is disbled.
Here I am trying to get answers to exactly the op's problem. Everything went smooth installing ics. Even wiped data.
Woke up this morning to a very dead battery. Went to sleep at 83%. Interestingly, the battery graph show nothing after about 80%. No indication on the graph of total discharge...and no app usage. Just straight from 80 to zero.
I can't determine if it's a hung app or what....I've installed almost nothing. And it looks like the tablet drained while it was OFF!
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t0gmko26t7wj41m/fIty0T1ySi/Screenshot_2012-02-25-07-56-17.jpg
Sorry for the link....I could not get the damn picture posted for the life of me...despite 45 minutes worth of my time.
i also woke up to a dead battery this morning. it was 50%+ when i left it on standby, wifi & gps switched off. i would have expected minimal drain on HC.
Balor said:
Prior to ICS my tf101 would last a good 3-4 days on a fully charged battery with my normal usage during the week. Yesterday I installed ICS went to sleep with just over 50%, it had suffered some heavy usage yesterday, and woke up to a completely flat and switched off tablet this morning. This is very unusual performance for my tab.
When I installed ICS I did a factory reset to clean up my tab so only have a pinch of the apps I had previously installed. One thing I did notice is on the battery tab of system settings the tablet was awake 100% of the time were traditionally it would only have a blue mark were it was in use on the awake line. Battery usage data is unavailable, too, so cant see what is causing tablet not to sleep.
Any suggestions?
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Try this
Go to settings /WiFi /click three dots in upper right corner/Advanced/ uncheck keep wifi on during sleep.
go to recently used apps and close all ( swipe to right)
put tab to sleep for a while
Come back and turn on.
go to settings
battery
tap grey battery level graph to expand
check individual bars to see what was on and off.
Looks liks some apps are keepi9ng WiFi and GPS on and draining battery.
It would be really nice in future update to have a setting like below:
Setting
Sleep setting
On screen off close all apps except ( here you get to choose apps to leave open)
I'm glad I am not the only one with battery drain issues. I thought I was doing something wrong.
Several days ago I charged my dock and tablet fully. I then turned off the tablet, closed the lid and didn't use it for a few days, when I went to run it again it was totally dead. I would have expected it to at least hold something of a charge in a completely off state.
Yesterday I left the tablet and dock on but just turned the screen off and again this morning had a drained dock.
Just seems like no matter how I try to settle on a way I still see more of a drain than I would have expected.
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Rumbleweed said:
Try this
Go to settings /WiFi /click three dots in upper right corner/Advanced/ uncheck keep wifi on during sleep.
go to recently used apps and close all ( swipe to right)
put tab to sleep for a while
Come back and turn on.
go to settings
battery
tap grey battery level graph to expand
check individual bars to see what was on and off.
Looks liks some apps are keepi9ng WiFi and GPS on and draining battery.
It would be really nice in future update to have a setting like below:
Setting
Sleep setting
On screen off close all apps except ( here you get to choose apps to leave open)
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I will have to take a look at that setting myself and see what is up with it.
Yes, it would nice to have a sleep setting button for some helpful settings.
Have there been any firmware updates for the dock itself, or is that not possible?
I'm having the same issue dock was at 80% last night get up this morning and it's at 6%. I set wifi to off during sleep to see if that helps any.
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I'm having the same issue dock was at 80% last night get up this morning and it's at 6%. I set wifi to off during sleep to see if that helps any.
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Have to close apps that are keeping stuff on. Look at permissions. More and more are adding "prevent "Function X off during sleep."
As soon as I got the update installed I turned GPS off and set WiFi to never sleep, woke up this morning to only 4% battery drain. The tablet went 12 hours and went from 40% to 36%, i also had apps open...
apps open: engadget, camera, browser, gmail, market and settings..
no battery drain yet, updated yesterday and only 5% drain during the night with apps open
Help!
Same problem here. I noticed high battery drain yesterday and didn't think to leave it plugged in.
This morning, it wouldn't turn back on! I've left it plugged in in case the battery drained too far and will try to turn it on later on.
With HC, the power button was buggy (had to press really hard) and seemed that that went away with ICS (well except for now). Don't know if this is related.
Same issues with me. Except my tablet won't wake up when I push the power button. I have to hold and reset it. Here is the kicker: I will get a 20% power drain over 9 hours on top of it. So not only does my tablet not turn on after it being asleep, but I get a power drain as well!
My Settings: Stock ICS off a completely reformatted device, Keep Wi-Fi on only when plugged in, screen timeout is 1 minute and MobileDock Battery Saving mode is on. My battery usage indicator does not work... I have to get the very basic info from my battery widget.
Very disappointed! This was the one thing I wanted fixed the most. I hated using the airplane mode app. It severely affected performance.
zillah1985 said:
Same issues with me. Except my tablet won't wake up when I push the power button. I have to hold and reset it. Here is the kicker: I will get a 20% power drain over 9 hours on top of it. So not only does my tablet not turn on after it being asleep, but I get a power drain as well!
My Settings: Stock ICS off a completely reformatted device, Keep Wi-Fi on only when plugged in, screen timeout is 1 minute and MobileDock Battery Saving mode is on. My battery usage indicator does not work... I have to get the very basic info from my battery widget.
Very disappointed! This was the one thing I wanted fixed the most. I hated using the airplane mode app. It severely affected performance.
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Maybe we are all having the random reboot problem.
It makes sense if you think about it.. Mine would randomly go into reboot in sleep and the device would get stuck on the Asus loading screen. So when the device cycle through the loading screen for an entire night, you would find a dead tablet by the morning.
So far, I have encountered 2 random reboots, the only way to bring the device out of the boot screen is to hard reset it by holding down the power button.
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balor you most likely got better battery due to custom rom
custom roms tweaked the battery for couple days use.. asus claimed like 9 hours on the tablet.. and like 19 with dock keyboard. custom ics roms inc
So it happened again. Fully charge the TF for a trip. When I get to my distination (8hrs later) turn on the TF and its dead. No power and no chargers. This thing is pissing me off!
Anyone know why or how I can fix? I do have the wifi off when screen is off.
How is that possible?
Did you not shut down your TF?
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So it happened again. Fully charge the TF for a trip. When I get to my distination (8hrs later) turn on the TF and its dead. No power and no chargers. This thing is pissing me off!
Anyone know why or how I can fix? I do have the wifi off when screen is off.
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It looks like you are having the reboot during deep sleep issue that started with the upgrade to ICS. The reboots can be stuck with the screen enabled and the processor actively trying to complete the boot, which drains your battery.
Short term, I would avoid leaving the TF powered up unattended for long periods.
That will prevent the total battery drain. For a longer term work around, you can try an app called Wake Lock, which you can set to prevent the TF from going into deep sleep, and eliminate the deep sleep reboots, which has helped some users, including me.
The app should be set to restart on Reboot, and select the Partial Lock, then select the Acquire Lock setting, on the red bar, which will switch to green, and indicate that it has acquired. You can also set it to show its icon in the Notification are, so that you have a visual assurance that it is working. Then just exit the app, and it will work in the background.
You can monitor that it is preventing Deep Sleep, using the CPUspy app.
I would then watch carefully to see that you aren't experiencing any more reboots during Deep Sleep.
Long term, ASUS is researching instability with ICS, and we hope to get a true fix. Until then, use of Wake Lock may help you.
Others may have other opinions and explanations, and they may be right, but this has cured my problem for the last 11days. Good luck.
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How is that possible?
Did you not shut down your TF?
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No shut down. I would charge the TF to 100%. turn the screen on to see if its 100% charged and that's it. Then 8hrs or so later when I want to go use the TF, its dead. Can't even turn on.
Can this be the reboot issue or an application that is running and not letting my TF go to deep sleep? Help!
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No shut down. I would charge the TF to 100%. turn the screen on to see if its 100% charged and that's it. Then 8hrs or so later when I want to go use the TF, its dead. Can't even turn on.
Can this be the reboot issue or an application that is running and not letting my TF go to deep sleep? Help!
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Your response makes no sense. You say TF was shut down then you say TF might not be going into deep sleep. If you power the TF down it will go off and use NO battery. you will get some battery internal discharge but TF will not come on an use battery. Try the same test shutting it off.
Ok...try again. I would charge the TF. Then check by pressing the power button. The screen goes on and shows 100%. Then press the power button to turn the screen off ( not turning it completely off).
When I want to use the TF, it won't turn on, as if its completely dead.
Suggestion?
its either a) you get a RR and get stuck in a bootloop, b) you got some app running that drains the battery, such as Winamp or c) your device is broken (not likely).
There are many threads already posted addressing this issue. Please Learn to correctly use the search function
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My Galaxy Note has been performing beautifully since I got it back in January. I typically get several days out of a battery charge - I'm a pretty light user. Two days ago I powered it off for a couple of hours. After turning it back on I made one short call, then nothing the rest of the day. I think it was indicating about 50% power remaining when it was powered off. That night, I was surprised to see it way down at 15%, so I charged it back up to 100%. I did note that I had left the Messaging application running, but that's all - no wifi, bluetooth or anything like that. Next day I was astounded to see that charge last only about 4 hours (according to the meter). Not only that, but the phone actually felt warm to the touch - something I've certainly never observed before. It was like it was running on amphetamines or something!
I was sufficiently alarmed by this to power it down again, remove and reinsert the battery, and power it up again. At that time it was charged up to about 75%. The weirdness continues - since then, about 10 hours ago, it has been almost locked on 75%. It may have made 1 or 2 calls in that time, but no other use at all. I do not have any of the power saving settings enabled, and I'm running Android 4.0.3.
So the question is - has anyone else seen any behaviour like this? Can it be just the battery monitoring getting out of sync? Can powering it down do that? It would not have bothered me too much if I hadn't felt the over-warm case. I find it hard to see how that could be caused by software, but it's a strange and murky world in there!
no updates installed of os.?
no new app recently installed?
Try andosensor and check battery level if its around the normal capacity when charging. Could be battery issue, could be a many things
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no updates installed of os.?
no new app recently installed?
Try andosensor and check battery level if its around the normal capacity when charging. Could be battery issue, could be a many things
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I did update the OS, but that was a couple of months ago, long before this happened. I observed immediately after that update the battery usage seemed to get worse, but after a couple of discharge/recharge cycles, it got its act back together and has been fine since. That's why I was wondering about monitoring software getting out of whack this time - but couldn't see how software could make the case warm!
No new apps for at least a couple of weeks. I'll certainly have a look at Androsensor, thanks for the reply.
Your phone isn't going into deep sleep. Use an app called CPU spy to check this.
Mine usually recovers back into deep sleep after I reboot my phone.
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My Galaxy Note has been performing beautifully since I got it back in January. I typically get several days out of a battery charge - I'm a pretty light user. Two days ago I powered it off for a couple of hours. After turning it back on I made one short call, then nothing the rest of the day. I think it was indicating about 50% power remaining when it was powered off. That night, I was surprised to see it way down at 15%, so I charged it back up to 100%. I did note that I had left the Messaging application running, but that's all - no wifi, bluetooth or anything like that. Next day I was astounded to see that charge last only about 4 hours (according to the meter). Not only that, but the phone actually felt warm to the touch - something I've certainly never observed before. It was like it was running on amphetamines or something!
I was sufficiently alarmed by this to power it down again, remove and reinsert the battery, and power it up again. At that time it was charged up to about 75%. The weirdness continues - since then, about 10 hours ago, it has been almost locked on 75%. It may have made 1 or 2 calls in that time, but no other use at all. I do not have any of the power saving settings enabled, and I'm running Android 4.0.3.
So the question is - has anyone else seen any behaviour like this? Can it be just the battery monitoring getting out of sync? Can powering it down do that? It would not have bothered me too much if I hadn't felt the over-warm case. I find it hard to see how that could be caused by software, but it's a strange and murky world in there!
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Check for partial wakelocks. Otherwise, if you're complaining about battery percentage dropping when you reboot, that's because the battery monitor believes that the battery is not as charged as it really is due to high CPU load dropping the voltage.
Anyone else encountered this problem ?
I've had my Nexus 4 for 3 days now.
I turn my phone off every night. So two nights for this phone. Each time I have turned it off it has been fully charged, with the battery indicator and a third party app both showing 100 %. The next morning (about 8 hours later) I'm finding the battery has dropped to ~85%, so losing ~2% per hour when powered off.
Anyone else encountered this or know how to deal with it (before I contact Google)
Note - to power off I press the power stud until the Power Off menu appears, select Power Off, then click on OK to shut the phone down.
This is with Android 4.2.1
It takes power to turn the phone on. 15% might be a little much but it is not unlikely.
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15% does sound a little high. OP, how's the battery life during daily/normal usage?
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15% does sound a little high. OP, how's the battery life during daily/normal usage?
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Battery life has actually been decent, I think I'm getting better usage than my old HTC Desire Z with extended battery. I'm not a heavy user, though I have been using it for music at work.
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Anyone else encountered this problem ?
I've had my Nexus 4 for 3 days now.
I turn my phone off every night. So two nights for this phone. Each time I have turned it off it has been fully charged, with the battery indicator and a third party app both showing 100 %. The next morning (about 8 hours later) I'm finding the battery has dropped to ~85%, so losing ~2% per hour when powered off.
Anyone else encountered this or know how to deal with it (before I contact Google)
Note - to power off I press the power stud until the Power Off menu appears, select Power Off, then click on OK to shut the phone down.
This is with Android 4.2.1
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It takes a huge amount of battery power to start the phone from complete off, this also skews the first reading of the battery voltage as it will be lowered by the draw of power to start the phone so the indicator will read lower than it's true capacity.
The best solution is just put your phone in airplane mode at night, and turn airplane mode off in the morning, this is more power efficient than shutting the phone down using "power off", and you shouldn't see any battery drain apart from a percent or so doing this.
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Phil
You can tell you guys never turn your phones off Starting up should have no battery drain - never been an issue on any of my previous phones and PDAs (last one also being Android).
I rang Google and they had never seen it before but recommended draining then fully charging the battery.
Friday night I made sur it was fully charged before unplugging and shutting down - next morning on turning on - 99% - result. Saturday/Sunday the same (note SAturday i fully drained then recharged the battery). This morning boots up with just 82%.
Looks like either it can't work out when it's fully charged, else there's some disharge mechanism in place to protect the battery and that's causing me issues.
It probably wasn't really at 100% even it was reporting as such. The reporting is broken. So when you rebooted you saw the real battery level.
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I was just about to start a thread on this and then saw this thread here. So I'll ask here. I travel overseas a lot. So while I am on the plane I plug the phone in while off to charge it. I hit the power button occasionally to check the charge and when it shows "Full" I unplug it and throw it in my bag.
2 days later, I come back to the US and turn the phone on and the battery is usually below 50% even though it stated it was fully charged when I unplugged it.
So how does the battery drain if the phone is off?
I just sent my first Nexus 4 in for RMA on this very issue (if left for long enough it would just fully discharge), got the replacement on Friday, did a charge cycle, charged the phone fully up whilst off, took it off the charger (the official Nexus charger btw), and let it sit for the last day, just turned it on, and it's at 60%.... W T F !!!
This is sooo totally bizarre! I can only assume that this is common to most Nexus 4 (what are the odds of me getting two bad ones - direct from Google - with the exact the same issue?), and that people just aren't noticing, as most people don't leave their phones off after fully charging, and thus just never notice, as the battery behaves perfectly normally under usual use.
I would gratefully appreciate it if people could put this to the test, so I know whether or not to RMA the second device or not....
dapprman said:
Anyone else encountered this problem ?
I've had my Nexus 4 for 3 days now.
I turn my phone off every night. So two nights for this phone. Each time I have turned it off it has been fully charged, with the battery indicator and a third party app both showing 100 %. The next morning (about 8 hours later) I'm finding the battery has dropped to ~85%, so losing ~2% per hour when powered off.
Anyone else encountered this or know how to deal with it (before I contact Google)
Note - to power off I press the power stud until the Power Off menu appears, select Power Off, then click on OK to shut the phone down.
This is with Android 4.2.1
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Are you using a custom rom, maybe its only sleeping.
Can't speak for the OP - but for me, no on both devices - totally stock. The latest one, box fresh on Friday! Also, the phone is most definitely OFF, and not just sleeping, ie, I press the power button & choose the "power off" option from the pop up. Unfortunately there's no way to really test this, by pulling the battery...
knowayback said:
Can't speak for the OP - but for me, no on both devices - totally stock. The latest one, box fresh on Friday! Also, the phone is most definitely OFF, and not just sleeping, ie, I press the power button & choose the "power off" option from the pop up. Unfortunately there's no way to really test this, by pulling the battery...
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Why not just leave it charging when it's off..
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It probably wasn't really at 100% even it was reporting as such. The reporting is broken. So when you rebooted you saw the real battery level.
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Nah - I tested it multiple times on my first phone. One time I left it for over two days and the battery went from "reporting 100%" to being under 10% whilst turned off!! Also on all the charges - I deliberately would leave the phone on the charger for multiple hours, even after it was reporting 100%, as I had the same suspicion. Often I'd leave it to charge overnight...
I have never had this issue with any other phone, or with my Nexus 7 (which I have subsequently tested in this respect, and it is perfectly capable of holding a charge whilst off)
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joshnichols189 said:
Why not just leave it charging when it's off..
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It's not so much that it's a practical issue, it's more that I'm worried that it might indicative of a larger hardware based defect, and I'm not happy spending my hard earned cash on faulty goods.
If it's a very common complaint/fault then I won't bother to RMA the second one, but if I'm just ridiculously unlucky, and very few people are experiencing this totally weird behaviour, then I'll take my chances on a third...
Also, I don't think it's too much to ask to be able to turn my phone off to prevent it from losing any more charge. I can think of a plethora of scenarios where this would be extremely useful...
I'm now convinced of three things.
1. Android 4.2.1 can not properly read the battery state
2. Shutting down the phone does NOT do that, but rather puts it in to a hybernate mode that still requires battery charge
3. There is a fundamental design flaw in the phone that part causes this.
Most mornings I find my previously shut down at 100% charged phone at only 80-85%, though occasionally it is as high as 97-99, but not often.
Oh and my ROM is stock, my phone is not rooted.
dapprman said:
I'm now convinced of three things.
1. Android 4.2.1 can not properly read the battery state
2. Shutting down the phone does NOT do that, but rather puts it in to a hybernate mode that still requires battery charge
3. There is a fundamental design flaw in the phone that part causes this.
Most mornings I find my previously shut down at 100% charged phone at only 80-85%, though occasionally it is as high as 97-99, but not often.
Oh and my ROM is stock, my phone is not rooted.
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I agree on all counts apart from the first, as my nexus 7 and my Mum's Nexus 10 behave totally normally in this respect, both on 4.2.1 and 4.2.2 (both stock/unrooted, although the Nexus 7 was rooted/bl-unlocked for a time).
Also, I don't believe it's a miss reading of the battery state, as I often leave the device charging for multiple hours after it reports 100%, by which point it simply must be fully charged. What's more - if you leave the device off for long enough it will fully discharge! The craziest thing is that the phone's battery seems to drain quicker when it's 'turned off", than when it's powered on and sleeping. Seriously WTF.
It must be something to do with either the LG hardware, or LG specific code in the Google ROM. Obviously the phone is incapable of properly shutting down, which is pretty crappy for a so called "flagship" device. As someone who likes to have full control of their device, I find it more than a wee bit irksome, that I don't have the ability to completely shutdown my phone! This is also where the irremovable battery is annoying, because there's no way to test whether it's a hardware or software issue, although I guess I could try a custom ROM and see if it still happens.... however I don't really wanna root & rom if I'm going to RMA it....
I'm really interested to know how many other people have this defect and don't even realise it, because their phone is either in use or charging! I find it hard to believe that I could be unlucky enough to have got two uniquely defective devices in a row...
I'd really appreciate it if people could check their devices for this issue, both on stock and custom ROMs, see if we can work out whether it's HW or SW related...
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This is also where the irremovable battery is annoying, because there's no way to test whether it's a hardware or software issue
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You could try powering it off with the bootloader. After you power off normally, hold power and volume down, when the bootloader menu comes on use volume keys to select power off and power button to confirm.
I'm hard pressed to believe the battery in my device would fully discharge if left off, when the phone arrived the battery wasn't dead, I got about three hours of solid tinkering before it died.
USSENTERNCC1701E said:
You could try powering it off with the bootloader. After you power off normally, hold power and volume down, when the bootloader menu comes on use volume keys to select power off and power button to confirm.
I'm hard pressed to believe the battery in my device would fully discharge if left off, when the phone arrived the battery wasn't dead, I got about three hours of solid tinkering before it died.
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That's a good point. Mine came out of the box at about 80%.... hmmm. It could be that once it's first turned on it won't turn off again... this is such an odd issue! I shall try powering off from the bootloader next time, I'd still love to hear if other people's phones exhibit this anomaly though...
I'm aware that it's hard to believe issue, but there's only one way to find out...
I'm also very curious to know if loading a custom rom might solve it. I'm far less concerned if it's a software issue, I just don't want to have spend £250 on defective hardware.
I'm 100% stock, no Custom ROM nor kernal (kernel?) and my phone WILL discharge if left unplugged and "off". Happens every time I come back from overseas. Fully charge it up on the plane (even left the phone on but in airplane mode to 100% thinking that it was a misread of the battery level when the phone was "off") and still the same issue... turn it on a few days later and the charge is down to 75% or so....
I thought I was losing it... but I'm not the only one...
usafle said:
I'm 100% stock, no Custom ROM nor kernal (kernel?) and my phone WILL discharge if left unplugged and "off". Happens every time I come back from overseas. Fully charge it up on the plane (even left the phone on but in airplane mode to 100% thinking that it was a misread of the battery level when the phone was "off") and still the same issue... turn it on a few days later and the charge is down to 75% or so....
I thought I was losing it... but I'm not the only one...
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Ha - me too! With the first one, I actually went into a weird sort of denial, where I kept convincing myself that I must of got it wrong, it just seemed so absurd! Eventually I put it to the test (multiple times) and realized that my memory wasn't as bad as I'd been trying to persuade myself and the phone was in fact discharging when "off".
Anyone else?
Just got the update to 4.2.2 and have got my fingers firmly crossed that it's now a squished bug... although somehow I think it's more likely an LG/hardware issue...
What you could try to do it charge the battery to 100%, hold the power button for 10 seconds until it fully shuts itself off. Leave it overnight and see the battery level is at the next day.