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Possible Brick I Dunno what I did

So I'm fairly new to rooting but I have had android since the day it came out and I am good with the system. I have a g2 running a root of Visionary. I wanted to install a custom rom, so i was in Rom manager and i flashed in Clockwork Recovery, that went fine, and then i clicked back up current rom. I changed the name to original Rom, then the phone went blank then it had a g2 with a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. Does that mean the phone was bricked or what mode was that in? I pulled the battery and powered the phone on while holding the volume down. I think clicked the recovery option and the phone produced the same black screen with a G2 with a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. I then pulled the battery again, powered it up with the volume down button and did a factory reset and now my phone is back to how it was out the box running regular software.
Any idea what I did wrong? Or what went wrong? I would like to throw visionary back on and do a temp root and throw in a custom rom. My end goal is to do it once and have the phone run flawlessly and fast and never mess with any settings again. Help please!

Just for your information use the root method in wiki thats on this forum its easy. I think the visionary is outdated.
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jjp023 said:
red triangle with an exclamation point in it.
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The red triangle is the pre-screen to the stock recovery. At that screen if you press Vol + and Power (IIRC), it will take you to the recovery. I am not sure why you got this screen if you flashed clockwork recovery from ROM manager.
If the phone is not properly rooted, it probably cannot flash a custom recovery. Make sure you follow the instructions for rooting via Gfree in the wiki.

you are just soft rooted you will need to go through the root through adb

jjp023 said:
So I'm fairly new to rooting but I have had android since the day it came out and I am good with the system. I have a g2 running a root of Visionary. I wanted to install a custom rom, so i was in Rom manager and i flashed in Clockwork Recovery, that went fine, and then i clicked back up current rom. I changed the name to original Rom, then the phone went blank then it had a g2 with a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. Does that mean the phone was bricked or what mode was that in? I pulled the battery and powered the phone on while holding the volume down. I think clicked the recovery option and the phone produced the same black screen with a G2 with a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. I then pulled the battery again, powered it up with the volume down button and did a factory reset and now my phone is back to how it was out the box running regular software.
Any idea what I did wrong? Or what went wrong? I would like to throw visionary back on and do a temp root and throw in a custom rom. My end goal is to do it once and have the phone run flawlessly and fast and never mess with any settings again. Help please!
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You can't load a custom recovery with only temp root (I'm guessing that's all you had). What you saw was the stock recovery (so your phone was actually fine and you didn't have to factory reset). If you want to load a custom ROM, you will need to follow one of the permanent root guides first (use the wiki or I just wrote another guide if you can't get ADB working). If you did have permanent root (check for S-OFF in the bootloader), try flashing the ClockworkMod recovery again (sometimes it doesn't take the first time).

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You can't load a custom recovery with only temp root (I'm guessing that's all you had). What you saw was the stock recovery (so your phone was actually fine and you didn't have to factory reset). If you want to load a custom ROM, you will need to follow one of the permanent root guides first (use the wiki or I just wrote another guide if you can't get ADB working). If you did have permanent root (check for S-OFF in the bootloader), try flashing the ClockworkMod recovery again (sometimes it doesn't take the first time).
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Thanks for the help, I appreciate the quick responses. I hade visionary. I temp rooted it and then perm rooted by jus clicking the perm root on visionary. Not sure if that would do the same. I dnt think I have the confidence yet to perm room through terminal and writing scripts. what way would u suggest to perm room and What roms would u suggest that are relativly novice leve and provide signifcant improvement

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Thanks for the help, I appreciate the quick responses. I hade visionary. I temp rooted it and then perm rooted by jus clicking the perm root on visionary. Not sure if that would do the same. I dnt think I have the confidence yet to perm room through terminal and writing scripts. what way would u suggest to perm room and What roms would u suggest that are relativly novice leve and provide signifcant improvement
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Not positive how Visionary attempts to permroot, but you should check to see if you have it. Hold the volume down while powering on to enter the bootloader. The first line will say S-OFF if you have root and S-ON if you don't. If you have S-OFF, go ahead and try to flash the ClockworkMod recovery again (it just may not have worked that first time). If you have S-ON, or still have problems flashing the recovery, you can use either of the guides I linked to in the earlier post (you don't have to write scripts, but will need to use terminal---just follow the instructions carefully and watch for typos).
As far as ROMs, once rooted, you can try any of them really easily to see what you like best (be sure to make a backup first and you can always revert back). They are all pretty friendly to use right out of the box.

My phone is back to stock so I can't check lol. The link you posted titled guide seems pretty user friendly. I will attempt that root tnite... I will not do the h boot bc I dnt want more risk of a brick. Once I root I will flash clockworkrecovery. So in rom manager i should flash clockworkrecovery then scroll down to the bottom of it and backup current rom.how can I confirm its backed up? And once it is backed up I am clear to install new roms correct
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If you were already S-OFF, doing the factory reset shouldn't return you to S-ON, so you could still check if you wanted to.
As far as backing up goes, once you choose backup in ROM Manager, your phone will boot into the custom recovery and you'll actually see all of the files getting backed up (there's also a progress bar). The backups are stored on your SD card in the clockworkmod directory (if you want to check to make sure it's there). After you have the backup, you're free to start testing new ROMs.

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If you were already S-OFF, doing the factory reset shouldn't return you to S-ON, so you could still check if you wanted to.
As far as backing up goes, once you choose backup in ROM Manager, your phone will boot into the custom recovery and you'll actually see all of the files getting backed up (there's also a progress bar). The backups are stored on your SD card in the clockworkmod directory (if you want to check to make sure it's there). After you have the backup, you're free to start testing new ROMs.
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So jus confirmed s on... so I will root using the guide u provided tnite.. few more questions jus to be safe I dnt wanna be a annoying but I appreciate the help...
1. Once rooted and in rom manager I should first flash clockworkrecovery then click back up current rom?
2.if I get back to the g2 with red triangle screen I should clikc power and volume down and which option should I choose at that screen?
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jjp023 said:
1. Once rooted and in rom manager I should first flash clockworkrecovery then click back up current rom?
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Yup.
jjp023 said:
2.if I get back to the g2 with red triangle screen I should clikc power and volume down and which option should I choose at that screen?
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This just means the ClockworkMod recovery did not flash properly (and you are seeing the stock recovery). Just boot the phone normally and try flashing the recovery again in ROM Manager. If that doesn't work, there are other options we can try, but it should work fine once you are actually permrooted.

Sounds good. I'm trying to prepare myself to do this root later tnite.
I want to make sure I get the command right in terminal.
After the money sign and number signs there are spaces correct?
So my keystrokes shoule be (I dnt press $ or #)
$(space)su(enter)
#(space)cp(space)/sdcard/root_files/perm_root/data/local/perm_root(enter)
#(space)chmod(space)777(space)/data/local/*(enter)
#(space)/data/local/perm_root(enter)
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You don't need to type the space at the start of the commands (they will already be there). Also you are missing a space in the second line:
cp(space)/sdcard/root_files/perm_root(space)/data/local/perm_root(enter)
Otherwise, looks good.

I know exactly what you're talking about with the triangle and red exclamation mark. Happened to me when i first flashed clockwork mod (CWM). What fixed it for me was to flash it TWICE when using Rom Manager. The first time you try to flash it, it doesn't always work, so you just reboot as normal (not into recovery) and flash CWM again and it should fix it.
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[Q] DEFY wont power up, only a white led shows

I flashed my Defy with froyo, then installed CM7, i charged it to 20% battery and turned it on. All worked fine for a couple of minutes, but afterwards it started restarting every 30 secs, So i tried flashing it again with the Chinese froyo (I'm from Israel, if it matters), but without charging the battery back to full, Which means I started flashing with about 15% battery.
I finished flashing rsdlite wrote "pass" and everything but the defy wouldn't power up, it just shows white led whenever i plug it to my PC. rsdlite recognized it in the first couple of hours and i tried flashing froyo again and again, but after a while even rsdlite didn't recognize it anymore.
I read a thread here that said that the phone doesn't charge in boot mode, and i thought that might be the problem, so i took out the battery and charged it at a phone store for about 15 minutes, then tried to turn it on but still no powering up. So now I have a defy that doesn't power up and isn't even recognized by rsdlite.
I'm hopeless, I loved my defy very much, and I really need an clue.
I'll do anything!
Thanks for reading this far, I hope you can help me

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892026 maybe this will help

Tried it, didn't work, I also tried to charge the battery already so I think its not just a dead battery problem, its probably more than that.

Hi there and welcome to the forums. You didn't mentioned which was the base OS you've had on your Defy before installing CM7, but I'll assume you have had a Froyo version, maybe the stock one (please provide more details).
If you flashed nordic SBF before installing CM7 or if you had official Froyo on your phone then you won't be able to Flash the leaked Chinese Froyo. It has some partitions with version code -2- like Eclair, whereas the nordic ROM has the code -4- and therefore it's not possible to directly downgrade by applying the Chinese SBF.
To revive your Defy you must charge your battery (at least 50% to be sure it will have enough juice and will last the whole process), then start it in stock recovery (Vold Down+ Power and then by pressing both volume buttons when the android with exclamation mark appears) and wipe data+cache. After this step you can start your phone in bootloader mode (Vol Up + Power) and flash again the initial ROM you had right before installing CM7.

you are from israel right?
why you choose chinese froyo for god sake?
some chinese froyo sbf is intended only for different DEFY (ME525) / Chinese Defy, and normal Defy is MB525.
it could damage your flashlight and phone.
use sbf from central europe froyo for best result installing CM7.

thanks guys, I charged the battery, got rsdlite to recognize the phone, and flashed a UK sbf, now its back on, working, and showing that motoblur animation.
I guess now all that's left is to install a 2.1 OS and everything should work.
(Please correct if I got this wrong, since I AM a noob and i really don't want to make another mistake)
THANKS ALOT!

If you flashed a full Froyo SBF then you cannot install Eclair SBF. It's not possible to directly downgrade after you have flashed Froyo using a full SBF. However you can easily flash a Froyo official ROM or... why not CM7 or MIUI.

Thing is... I already flashed 2.1, and got it to the point where it shows me the M logo. but it didn't go any further than that. i tried flashing a 2.3.3 ROM, same thing happens, M logo but nothing more. right now im back to this version of 2.2:
p3_jordan_umts_jordan-user-2.2.1-3.4.2-107_JDN-4-000000-release-keys-signed-T-Mobile-US.sbf
and I'm getting an animation of Motoblur with nothing else.

flaah nordic sbf then go to cm7. Follow the guide read first cm7 faq before proceeding
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All you do is flashing.. Have you actually do total wipe in recovery? Since you're having the motoblur animation splash screen, it is obviously your previous data is conflicting while the phone is trying to boot normally..
Sent from my awesome Moto Defy: Stock Rooted Gingerbread 2.3.3 - XDA Premium

farsight73 said:
All you do is flashing.. Have you actually do total wipe in recovery? Since you're having the motoblur animation splash screen, it is obviously your previous data is conflicting while the phone is trying to boot normally..
Sent from my awesome Moto Defy: Stock Rooted Gingerbread 2.3.3 - XDA Premium
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I believe you are right about wiping, I've bricked my phone to the point i couldn't turn the phone on. So all you usually have to do is flash the full sbf, when it tries to boot it gets stuck on the m logo, just pull the battery, power it up holding volume down wait for the the triangle and press the middle of the volume rocker and it will take you to the stock recovery. Wipe and factory rest, flash the sbf again.

wipe/factory reset didn't fix it, though I noticed nordic sbf got it to show the android animation.
is it possible that I need to install a rom after I flash an sbf? and if so, how can I install a rom (custom recovery doesn't give me an option to install a zip, only "update.zip").
do I install some sort of 2ndinit?
do I install a rom through "update.zip"?
sorry once again for another (hopefully last ) noobish questions.

The SBF is a full ROM so atfer flashing a SBF there is no need to put another ROM via recovery, unless you want to do so (let's say you'd like to install CM7 or MIUI). If you haven't flashed a 2.3.4 full SBF you should be able to revive your Defy using the nordic SBF. Try to download it again or try a different one (one of those official SBF's released this summer).

I did install a 2.3.4 full sbf, but it too didnt work, tried a factory reset + cache wipe, and reflashing the 2.3.4 and it's still stuck on the M logo

Ive done something stupidly wrong.. Help me please..
Ok Ive a me525 and I tried to flash my phone with JRDNEM_U3_2.51.0_CHN_P3_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA030.0R_USAJORDANRTINT_P029_A018_HWp3_Service1FF
Was not sure what I was doing at that moment(just following a guide/tutorial on YouTube)After the whole progress with RSD lite, my device turned black as the title says with only showing a white led light. Was getting pretty deperate thinking about I had broken the phone.. :crying:
I have searched for a solution on the forums saw some people did get their device repeared, but everything they had done didnt worked for me..
So please help this boy in need.. We dont have lots of money to spare so buying a new phone isnt really a fast option..
p.s. Not sure though but would a chinese sbf work and where would I find one?

Help with custom rom flash

Hey guys, I'm probably going to sound like a noob but I need some help with flashing a custom rom to my atrix. I've been trying for a couple of days now with no success. When I first got my atrix it was on 1.8.3. Upon trying to flash any roms I got stuck in a constant bootloop. So i figured I'd flash to newer firmware anyway. So I flash to 2.3.4. I follow the briefmobile instructions on rooting my atrix and the root appears successful. I then install tenfars cwm. Now back when i was on 1.8.3 I had unlocked the BL. but now upon my flash to 2.3.4 I notice that my unlocked symbol has gone away. Do i need to redo it? Anyways then I boot into recovery and have tried flashing aura or alien many times. It always says success, reboots and I reappear to my normal screen with normal kernel and all. The only difference is the extra apps in those rom's are installed. Thanks for any advice. I would love to flash a rom but not having my phone the way I want for the past couple of days is really making me tired of even bothering.

1) use romracers CWM
2) if you want the alien rom to look like the alien picture, you need to install the additional theme
3) pretty sure alien uses stock kernel
4) it doesn't hurt to re-do the pudding unlock
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[Q] Can't boot into recovery?

Hey everyone.
I've been rooted for a bit, and decided to finally try my hand at some custom roms. I experimented with a bunch on an old OH Droid I had lying around and felt like I wanted to use Cyanogen on my actual phone (the Dx.)
I've been rooted on .602, have had titanium backup and clockworkmod for a bit, so I went and got Dx Bootstrap today as well. Did all my backups and preperations, loaded up bootstrap, said it did is successfully, and when I tried to enter recovery, I would get hung at a black screen upon powering on.
With a battery pull, I have no problem rebooting as normal, but can't enter recovery via bootstrap, CWM or just the general holding down home button while powering on (then, it gets stuck on the ! screen.)
Anyone have any ideas whats stopping me from entering recovery?

When u r on gingerbread ur suppose to use Droid 2 bootstrapper and recommend download rom manager and flashing the latest recoveryrecovery
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[Q] Help! Error message when using BandroidX recovery

I installed BandroidX on my Bravo (running Cyanogenmod 7.2), hit the bootstrap button, and then hit reboot recovery. The phone shows the red M and then the following error: "Err:a5,70,39,00,21." Can anyone help?

Parcae said:
I installed BandroidX on my Bravo (running Cyanogenmod 7.2), hit the bootstrap button, and then hit reboot recovery. The phone shows the red M and then the following error: "Err:a5,70,39,00,21." Can anyone help?
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BandroidX Recovery is INCOMPATIBLE with CYANOGENMOD.
You're gonna have to flash the sbf, root, enable non market apps, and install DEFY 2ND-INIT RECOVERY.
As far as I know, BandroidX is only compatible with Stock and BravoX Roms.

brandoix procedure should eliminate as many people make mistakes and also is obsolete

help with bravo
having problems with my bravo on the screen it has have CyanogenMod 7.2.0 using BandroidX recovery
bootloader
09.12
battery ok
ok to program
transfer mode:
usb

harv65 said:
having problems with my bravo on the screen it has have CyanogenMod 7.2.0 using BandroidX recovery
bootloader
09.12
battery ok
ok to program
transfer mode:
usb
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Do not use BandroidX recovery for any rom except for BravoX (BravoX is a lightweight, deodexed stock rom). Use Defy 2nd-init -- Defy 2nd-init -- Defy 2nd-init.
Anyways, that's the screen to flash an sbf -- if its going there directly when you power up your phone and you're not pressing anything then your Bravo is in a semibrick state -- meaning the only fix is to flash the sbf and start over.
You just need to flash the sbf and install a proper recovery solution.
You only need to install Defy 2nd-init once (per sbf flash). Also, all custom roms on the Bravo come with Defy 2nd-init already installed so DO NOT INSTALL A CUSTOM RECOVERY ONCE YOU'RE RUNNING A CUSTOM ROM. Its pointless*.
*Unless you're testing some version of Touch recovery -- only recommended for advanced users.
Follow the directions in these two links and you'll be back in action in no time
Link to sbf thread
Link to Defy 2nd-init thread
Once you get the hang of it you'll be able to go from sbf to custom rom in under 10 minutes and lol at yourself for being stuck with a simple problem. On my first week of having a Bravo I was stuck on boot at the red M. Couldn't figure out what was wrong. Tried everything I knew and ended up low battery bricking myself. Managed to get a charge and accessed the screen with an ! in the triangle and an andriod -- didn't know what to do on that screen -- got lucky and happened to hit both volume buttons and access stock recovery (took me 3 days to figure out how to access stock recovery btw), did a factory reset there and my Bravo was fully working again. Problem was I didn't factory reset before flashing CM7 when coming from stock...Also, Bravo's 3g was my only internet at the time.
Wow, after looking back I just realized how much I've learned in my 1.5 years with a Bravo. Gotta love XDA for all the knowledge you can obtain here.
/the Bolded crap isn't necessarily directed at you, just bolding it so it sticks out and hopefully helps someone else out -- I've answered questions similar to this and the solution is always "Don't use BandroidX Recovery"
//Defy 2nd-init

skeevy420 said:
Do not use BandroidX recovery for any rom except for BravoX (BravoX is a lightweight, deodexed stock rom). Use Defy 2nd-init -- Defy 2nd-init -- Defy 2nd-init.
Anyways, that's the screen to flash an sbf -- if its going there directly when you power up your phone and you're not pressing anything then your Bravo is in a semibrick state -- meaning the only fix is to flash the sbf and start over.
You just need to flash the sbf and install a proper recovery solution.
You only need to install Defy 2nd-init once (per sbf flash). Also, all custom roms on the Bravo come with Defy 2nd-init already installed so DO NOT INSTALL A CUSTOM RECOVERY ONCE YOU'RE RUNNING A CUSTOM ROM. Its pointless*.
*Unless you're testing some version of Touch recovery -- only recommended for advanced users.
Follow the directions in these two links and you'll be back in action in no time
Link to sbf thread
Link to Defy 2nd-init thread
Once you get the hang of it you'll be able to go from sbf to custom rom in under 10 minutes and lol at yourself for being stuck with a simple problem. On my first week of having a Bravo I was stuck on boot at the red M. Couldn't figure out what was wrong. Tried everything I knew and ended up low battery bricking myself. Managed to get a charge and accessed the screen with an ! in the triangle and an andriod -- didn't know what to do on that screen -- got lucky and happened to hit both volume buttons and access stock recovery (took me 3 days to figure out how to access stock recovery btw), did a factory reset there and my Bravo was fully working again. Problem was I didn't factory reset before flashing CM7 when coming from stock...Also, Bravo's 3g was my only internet at the time.
Wow, after looking back I just realized how much I've learned in my 1.5 years with a Bravo. Gotta love XDA for all the knowledge you can obtain here.
/the Bolded crap isn't necessarily directed at you, just bolding it so it sticks out and hopefully helps someone else out -- I've answered questions similar to this and the solution is always "Don't use BandroidX Recovery"
//Defy 2nd-init
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thanks for the help

brandoix works
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thanks for the help
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I used 2initD firts ti me with stock ATT and then install brandoix Bravo recovery . Worcks great installing MIUI V4 (android update 4.0.3 and its fast!!!