Database Users

Honeycomb Livewallpaper (Xaffron Productions) - Need some mass feedback.

Can anybody try this and check if it is making the home screen lag?
I have tried using it on Launcher pro Plus /ADW EX /Stock Gingerbread Launcher.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=975413
Also please mention what ROM/Launcher/kernel you are using.

So far no problems. Running it at 45fps using GingerMex FAST 1.0.1 (with Flippy's kernel) and Go Launcher EX.

Hmmm...ok let me try it on a similar Setup. From the looks of it. I think it is a CM7 related 2D driver issue.
Thanks a ton for he feedback.
Now if anyone would be kind enough to try it out on a Stock HTC Desire Z ROM / CM7 with Stock Kernel / CM6 / VIrtuos.
I wanna figure out if its just me who is facing issues. Have already tried CM7 with stock kernel and Virtuos.

What's the problem you're having with it? Bad lag?
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.

ibemad1 said:
What's the problem you're having with it? Bad lag?
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly... lag between homescreen transitions. Are you experiencing the same?

The wallpaper itself seems to be slow, i haven't noticed any massive lag or screen issues though...

overall a lil bit slow on cm7, but the main problem is the bad looking of your graphics.

Yeap...its very slow on my opinion. Not the wallpaper itself but i makes the Homescreen go slow..dont know how else to out this.

The latest version is just amazing. Fixes almost every issue.
Check it out guys.

[Q] Help with my ROM development.

Hi XDA, I'm currently in the process of making a new 2.3.4 ROM called CAE (Complete Android Experience) I've added new features and changed the UI but now since the ROM will be heavily community orientated Im after your input, Which apps would you like to see included? Do you favour looks/performance? and generally who's interested in using this?
Many Thanks!

SamSamoon said:
Hi XDA, I'm currently in the process of making a new 2.3.4 ROM called CAE (Complete Android Experience) I've added new features and changed the UI but now since the ROM will be heavily community orientated Im after your input, Which apps would you like to see included? Do you favour looks/performance? and generally who's interested in using this?
Many Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can try it when you finished it!
If you can make it fast and all to work, then I use it!
ADW Launcher for deafult launcher is good!
and good WiFi files have: CM7 or Japanese Jellyfish RLS11..?
So if you want good WiFi then try CM WiFi files (Newest Nightly)
And if you add speed tweaks to build.prop then the ROM is much better!
build.prop:
wifi.supplicant_scan_interval=30 to save battery
this is maybe good:
ro.product.multi_touch_enabled=true
ro.product.max_num_touch=2
if your build.prop don't have these then add to make your ROM much better:
media.stagefright.enable-player=false
media.stagefright.enable-meta=false
media.stagefright.enable-scan=false
media.stagefright.enable-http=false
there is something: http://alldroid.org/Default.aspx?tabid=40&g=posts&m=5696
maybe with this website build.prop boot sound texts you can get the boot sound to work..?

manumanfred said:
I can try it when you finished it!
ADW Launcher for deafult launcher is good!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't agree, I find ADW quite laggy.
The EX version is excellent though.

k0zmic said:
I don't agree, I find ADW quite laggy.
The EX version is excellent though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK! I use always ADW Launcher because It is faster Launcher which I used on my JetDroid ROMs and Blade CM 7.# ROMs...
it is maybe faster than launcherpro launcher but whatever!
EX version lagging on my JetDroid ROMs and it's slower than ADW Launcher? :/
If ADW Launcher is not good then leave original or try touchwiz 3.0 or Launcher Pro...?
=)

manumanfred said:
OK! I use always ADW Launcher because It is faster Launcher which I used on my JetDroid ROMs and Blade CM 7.# ROMs...
it is maybe faster than launcherpro launcher but whatever!
EX version lagging on my JetDroid ROMs and it's slower than ADW Launcher? :/
If ADW Launcher is not good then leave original or try touchwiz 3.0 or Launcher Pro...?
=)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I find it around the same as LauncherPro on CM7, for me Stock the fastest.
TouchWiz would certainly be interestisting, LauncherPro is always a good option.
Personally, I'd say just leave it as the stock one since people can always download ADW/ADW EX, LP etc without much difficulty.

k0zmic said:
I find it around the same as LauncherPro on CM7, for me Stock the fastest.
TouchWiz would certainly be interestisting, LauncherPro is always a good option.
Personally, I'd say just leave it as the stock one since people can always download ADW/ADW EX, LP etc without much difficulty.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK! but TouchWi launcher is not good if ADW Launcher is slow!

My vote is for Launcherpro, for me is faster and smother than ADW

+1 for LP.Hope to see your Rom soon.

forbidden8 said:
+1 for LP.Hope to see your Rom soon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Will be uploaded tonight if anyone's interested.

SamSamoon said:
Will be uploaded tonight if anyone's interested.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if you write more here : which works which not and which need fixing... etc.
and Screenshots of your ROM then people see that does it look good, etc.
I will not try it yet because first I need to check that can I get apps2sd to work on GSF, because without apps2sd I do not use ROM:s ...

Tbh its still fairly laggy with ics so far...

swiping between homescreens with a decent amount of widget and you wil notice a bit of lag, also using the tab in portrait mode is also laggy(sad to see it still havent been fix). The ics roms are still in alpha i believe? Do you guys think it will be smoother when everything is final?

Fasty12 said:
swiping between homescreens with a decent amount of widget and you wil notice a bit of lag, also using the tab in portrait mode is also laggy(sad to see it still havent been fix). The ics roms are still in alpha i believe? Do you guys think it will be smoother when everything is final?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i hate to say it but its most likely a hardware issue... the Tegra-II (2) is a very crappy processor (depending on who you talk to i guess) they [samsung/nvidia] didnt really think this through when they created this tablet... MHO...
Edit* "Hardware Limitations"

I don't use many widgets but I have absolutely no lag. So try reflashing. but even still once its finished it will be even faster.
and I think its technically in beta now.
the portrait mode in CM9 is still not there yet though. but I never use portrait mode so it doesn't bother me.
are you overclocking at all?

TBH I'm not sure why you felt that complaining deserved creating a new thread.

Mine is butter smooth in portrait or landscape... using ICS.

.torrented said:
i hate to say it but its most likely a hardware issue... the Tegra-II (2) is a very crappy processor (depending on who you talk to i guess) they [samsung/nvidia] didnt really think this through when they created this tablet... MHO...
Edit* "Hardware Limitations"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't know, you can use adw and there's one lag whatsoever.

maybe try closing any background apps that are running. They could take up RAM and slow down the tab

I have ICS with NO widgets and flashed 3x and still have some lag, not a lot but no butter smoothness as some of you claim.
And I refuse to use ADW because it makes it feel like an oversized phone, and this is a real Tablet

It's pretty smooth for me, even with a couple of widgets on the main screen.
You don't need to be worried about it, if anything look for the Xoom ICS videos. That is a finished update for a very similar hardware tablet. It's a lot better than the current incarnation of ICS to the Galaxy Tab.
Not to mention that ICS is still pretty alpha, if not just experimental.

Fasty12 said:
swiping between homescreens with a decent amount of widget and you wil notice a bit of lag, also using the tab in portrait mode is also laggy(sad to see it still havent been fix). The ics roms are still in alpha i believe? Do you guys think it will be smoother when everything is final?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmm likely a reflash is needed. i have ADW using 3 screens with 9 widgets and 32 apps and no lag
Sent from my GT-P7510 using Tapatalk

Never had lag on my tablet with any kang rom in either portrait or landscape.It's the smoothest I've ever seen.

Fasty12 said:
swiping between homescreens with a decent amount of widget and you wil notice a bit of lag, also using the tab in portrait mode is also laggy(sad to see it still havent been fix). The ics roms are still in alpha i believe? Do you guys think it will be smoother when everything is final?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
TBH this is as smooth as ics gets. android as a whole is not known for butterly dripping smooth, android is a full blown os for mobile phone / tablet with unspeakable power. the power to one day rival laptops not to rival butter for smoothness! if all you want is butter smooth transition moving from screen to screen, wait for a windows phone os tablet or get an ipad.

Tegra2 libs/drivers are outdated. Once source is released then I believe there will be a significant improvement. Head over to the cyanogen webpage, where cyanogen basically says what I stated above.
Sent from my SGH-I997 using Tapatalk

Disable wallpaper scrolling. It definitely solves the lag problem on homescreen. Use trebuchet, apex etc. But only on landscape mod not on portrait. It's a Tegra 2 issue. Every device that comes with Tegra 2 have it.

umd said:
Disable wallpaper scrolling. It definitely solves the lag problem on homescreen. Use trebuchet, apex etc. But only on landscape mod not on portrait. It's a Tegra 2 issue. Every device that comes with Tegra 2 have it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But, even the galaxy tab 7.7 with it's 1.4ghz exynos cpu was very laggy on honeycomb when watching it on you tube, the smoothness difference between that and the galaxy tab 10.1 was very little. So it's more of a android tablet ui problem rather than a tegra problem, I believe. The tegra 2 isn't that bad; when overclocked to 1.2-1.4ghz to keep it up to date with other tabs.

I have never experienced much lag at all on my Tab.. Have tried both ICS versions and they both flat out fly! Task's ROM 14 Slim which is TW 3.2 based is screaming fast as well...
I think some people may have a poorly written app(s) running in the background that's zapping memory..

portrait lag is never going to be fixed unless a dev here fixes it for them.
the xoom has official ics and its still laggy in portrait and in other places....so counting on the devs here for something

danielsf said:
But, even the galaxy tab 7.7 with it's 1.4ghz exynos cpu was very laggy on honeycomb when watching it on you tube, the smoothness difference between that and the galaxy tab 10.1 was very little. So it's more of a android tablet ui problem rather than a tegra problem, I believe. The tegra 2 isn't that bad; when overclocked to 1.2-1.4ghz to keep it up to date with other tabs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The UI problem I'm talking about occurs only on portrait mode. It's buttery smooth on landscape but lags on portrait doesn't matter whatever you do. That's the Tegra 2 problem.

Some have pretty low standards for defining lag. Lag for me is anything below 30 frames per second. 60 is optimal, 30 is minimum.
With that said, my gtab gets really laggy when LWP is activated (which isn't the case for the SGS2) despite running on task rom + pershoot [email protected] 1.4ghz.
..and yes I'm running ADW launcher.
I hope that ICS will fix this but im not expecting too much given that Tegra 2 is a POS processor that could hardly run anything properly.

[Q] Why are the stock-based ROMs graphically smoother than CM7.2 on Defy+?

There's a constant struggle in my mind. I have tried several CM7 builds, but all of it had problems with the GUI smoothness. I just could not reach that iPhone-like smooth operation like the stock ROM or MS2Ginger, not even with V6 SuperCharger and Nitro Lag Nullifier. Various scrolling cache settings and build.prop tweaks also did not help like playing with debug.performance.tuning, video.accelerate.hw, debug.sf.hw. But MS2Ginger has several problems CM don't: SD card corruption (can't be fixed with mmcfix, tried), random FCs. So I just can't decide which is better for me: choppy GUI with no SD problems or ultrasmooth GUI with rage sometimes. It would be good to combine smoothness with SD card fix.
I'm not quite familiar with Android development yet, but I would like to know what modules/drivers/binaries etc. are responsible for this GUI smoothness/choppyness, and is there a way to port these things from stock ROM into CM.

Are you using ADWLauncher (which is the stock one in cm7)?
Try to use another launcher such as launcherpro, go launcher or adw launcher ex (not free).
I don't know why, but adw is very choppy indeed... it works well on lg p350 (cheap android device) of a friend of mine though.

The Development section is only for threads in which actual development is taking place

Step666 said:
The Development section is only for threads in which actual development is taking place
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How do you do actual development inside a forum post? That doesn't even seem possible.
But anyways yeah, I installed CM7 a few days ago and had the exact same issue as the OP—replacing ADWLauncher with Launcher Pro solved it.

Glaux said:
How do you do actual development inside a forum post? That doesn't even seem possible.
But anyways yeah, I installed CM7 a few days ago and had the exact same issue as the OP—replacing ADWLauncher with Launcher Pro solved it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Launcher Pro is choppy too. My first task after installing CM is always to replace ADW with Launcher Pro, but LP is still smoother on stock/MS2Ginger than on CM7.

So any tips? It's not a launcher problem, but an overall system symptom. Anyone experienced it?

i'm using adw lancher ex on cm7.2 with supercharged and it's really smooth.. like you said, iphone-like!

daede86 said:
i'm using adw lancher ex on cm7.2 with supercharged and it's really smooth.. like you said, iphone-like!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you have Defy+? What is your kernel version? What is your base SBF? What values are set in bootmenu/overclock?

Lots of performance and specially battery tweaks done in CM ROMs at the cost of better graphics. That's the case with every other brand mobile too. They all look graphically smoother on stock but a bit dull on CM.

It's hard to quantify "choppy" and "smooth," and different people will have different interpretations of the terms. Maybe a comparison video would clear things up.

Can some choppyness come from deodexing a rom? I read somewhere that odexed roms (like stock ones) are faster, but I can't remember in which way faster... maybe just booting up faster?!
Sent from my MB525 using XDA

I searched again and I've found it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15294567&postcount=22
As you can read in the end of the post, odexed rom is snappier in general!!
I'd want to try an odexed CM7.2
That would be fast as he'll :-D
Sent from my MB525 using XDA
Sent from my MB525 using XDA

sa3e1 said:
I searched again and I've found it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15294567&postcount=22
As you can read in the end of the post, odexed rom is snappier in general!!
I'd want to try an odexed CM7.2
That would be fast as he'll :-D
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How reputable is this poster? FWIR, deodexing only affects boot times, and only after a Dalvik cache wipe—there shouldn't be any performance impact besides that.

in my case, i have a defy+ with adw ex, old v6 (update8) is very smooth. launcherpro is too. stock launcher is sucks, so i dont use it. but other launchers works fine for me.

[Q] Poor image quality in CM7 (Possibly 12 or 16 bit?)

So I recently downgraded to CM7 just because I wanted something more stable than the ICS/JB ROMs I'd been using. First thing I noticed is the horrible image quality throughout the system; stuff like gradients and the overscroll effect look like bad JPEGs.
The only thing I could think of was to enable 16-bit transparency in the CM settings and edit the build.prop to force GPU rendering, but neither of those did anything.
Anyone know what I could do to fix this or do I just need a better ROM?
Thanks in advance.

damagedbits said:
So I recently downgraded to CM7 just because I wanted something more stable than the ICS/JB ROMs I'd been using. First thing I noticed is the horrible image quality throughout the system; stuff like gradients and the overscroll effect look like bad JPEGs.
The only thing I could think of was to enable 16-bit transparency in the CM settings and edit the build.prop to force GPU rendering, but neither of those did anything.
Anyone know what I could do to fix this or do I just need a better ROM?
Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Understand that the CM roms are run through with a fine tooth comb before they are released ass a stable mod.
Try a diffrent launcher and see if that is still the case .

xanda143 said:
Understand that the CM roms are run through with a fine tooth comb before they are released ass a stable mod.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I definitely understand that. I was running CM10.1 for a while and it was the most stable (albeit unofficial) JB rom I'd had on here so far, so that's why I decided to switch to an official release - and everything's great, aside from the poor quality on gradients.
xanda143 said:
Try a diffrent launcher and see if that is still the case .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I noticed it from the beginning on ADW launcher and have since tried out ADW EX, Next Launcher, Smart Launcher, GO Launcher and a few more with no luck.

damagedbits said:
I definitely understand that. I was running CM10.1 for a while and it was the most stable (albeit unofficial) JB rom I'd had on here so far, so that's why I decided to switch to an official release - and everything's great, aside from the poor quality on gradients.
I noticed it from the beginning on ADW launcher and have since tried out ADW EX, Next Launcher, Smart Launcher, GO Launcher and a few more with no luck.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When i use to run cm7 on thee mytouch 3g there was a surface dithering option maybe that can help tho i did not see the diffrence.Do you have the inferrrior mt4g screen?
try one of thier nightly builds and if that is no diffrent then that is just how cm7 looks.

xanda143 said:
When i use to run cm7 on thee mytouch 3g there was a surface dithering option maybe that can help tho i did not see the diffrence.Do you have the inferrrior mt4g screen?
try one of thier nightly builds and if that is no diffrent then that is just how cm7 looks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've tried with and without surface dithering, still didn't make a difference. I remember looking when I first got this phone and it turned out that I got the good screen, plus I've flashed like 20 different ROMs and the graphics are always great. I actually just downloaded the latest nightly, so I'll give that a try.

Welp, flashing the latest nightly didn't help. I guess I'll just switch to a better ROM -_-

You might have luck by changing dpi.
Sent from my HTC_A510c using xda app-developers app