swiping between homescreens with a decent amount of widget and you wil notice a bit of lag, also using the tab in portrait mode is also laggy(sad to see it still havent been fix). The ics roms are still in alpha i believe? Do you guys think it will be smoother when everything is final?
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swiping between homescreens with a decent amount of widget and you wil notice a bit of lag, also using the tab in portrait mode is also laggy(sad to see it still havent been fix). The ics roms are still in alpha i believe? Do you guys think it will be smoother when everything is final?
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i hate to say it but its most likely a hardware issue... the Tegra-II (2) is a very crappy processor (depending on who you talk to i guess) they [samsung/nvidia] didnt really think this through when they created this tablet... MHO...
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I don't use many widgets but I have absolutely no lag. So try reflashing. but even still once its finished it will be even faster.
and I think its technically in beta now.
the portrait mode in CM9 is still not there yet though. but I never use portrait mode so it doesn't bother me.
are you overclocking at all?
TBH I'm not sure why you felt that complaining deserved creating a new thread.
Mine is butter smooth in portrait or landscape... using ICS.
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i hate to say it but its most likely a hardware issue... the Tegra-II (2) is a very crappy processor (depending on who you talk to i guess) they [samsung/nvidia] didnt really think this through when they created this tablet... MHO...
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I don't know, you can use adw and there's one lag whatsoever.
maybe try closing any background apps that are running. They could take up RAM and slow down the tab
I have ICS with NO widgets and flashed 3x and still have some lag, not a lot but no butter smoothness as some of you claim.
And I refuse to use ADW because it makes it feel like an oversized phone, and this is a real Tablet
It's pretty smooth for me, even with a couple of widgets on the main screen.
You don't need to be worried about it, if anything look for the Xoom ICS videos. That is a finished update for a very similar hardware tablet. It's a lot better than the current incarnation of ICS to the Galaxy Tab.
Not to mention that ICS is still pretty alpha, if not just experimental.
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swiping between homescreens with a decent amount of widget and you wil notice a bit of lag, also using the tab in portrait mode is also laggy(sad to see it still havent been fix). The ics roms are still in alpha i believe? Do you guys think it will be smoother when everything is final?
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Hmm likely a reflash is needed. i have ADW using 3 screens with 9 widgets and 32 apps and no lag
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Never had lag on my tablet with any kang rom in either portrait or landscape.It's the smoothest I've ever seen.
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swiping between homescreens with a decent amount of widget and you wil notice a bit of lag, also using the tab in portrait mode is also laggy(sad to see it still havent been fix). The ics roms are still in alpha i believe? Do you guys think it will be smoother when everything is final?
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TBH this is as smooth as ics gets. android as a whole is not known for butterly dripping smooth, android is a full blown os for mobile phone / tablet with unspeakable power. the power to one day rival laptops not to rival butter for smoothness! if all you want is butter smooth transition moving from screen to screen, wait for a windows phone os tablet or get an ipad.
Tegra2 libs/drivers are outdated. Once source is released then I believe there will be a significant improvement. Head over to the cyanogen webpage, where cyanogen basically says what I stated above.
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Disable wallpaper scrolling. It definitely solves the lag problem on homescreen. Use trebuchet, apex etc. But only on landscape mod not on portrait. It's a Tegra 2 issue. Every device that comes with Tegra 2 have it.
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Disable wallpaper scrolling. It definitely solves the lag problem on homescreen. Use trebuchet, apex etc. But only on landscape mod not on portrait. It's a Tegra 2 issue. Every device that comes with Tegra 2 have it.
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But, even the galaxy tab 7.7 with it's 1.4ghz exynos cpu was very laggy on honeycomb when watching it on you tube, the smoothness difference between that and the galaxy tab 10.1 was very little. So it's more of a android tablet ui problem rather than a tegra problem, I believe. The tegra 2 isn't that bad; when overclocked to 1.2-1.4ghz to keep it up to date with other tabs.
I have never experienced much lag at all on my Tab.. Have tried both ICS versions and they both flat out fly! Task's ROM 14 Slim which is TW 3.2 based is screaming fast as well...
I think some people may have a poorly written app(s) running in the background that's zapping memory..
portrait lag is never going to be fixed unless a dev here fixes it for them.
the xoom has official ics and its still laggy in portrait and in other places....so counting on the devs here for something
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But, even the galaxy tab 7.7 with it's 1.4ghz exynos cpu was very laggy on honeycomb when watching it on you tube, the smoothness difference between that and the galaxy tab 10.1 was very little. So it's more of a android tablet ui problem rather than a tegra problem, I believe. The tegra 2 isn't that bad; when overclocked to 1.2-1.4ghz to keep it up to date with other tabs.
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The UI problem I'm talking about occurs only on portrait mode. It's buttery smooth on landscape but lags on portrait doesn't matter whatever you do. That's the Tegra 2 problem.
Some have pretty low standards for defining lag. Lag for me is anything below 30 frames per second. 60 is optimal, 30 is minimum.
With that said, my gtab gets really laggy when LWP is activated (which isn't the case for the SGS2) despite running on task rom + pershoot [email protected] 1.4ghz.
..and yes I'm running ADW launcher.
I hope that ICS will fix this but im not expecting too much given that Tegra 2 is a POS processor that could hardly run anything properly.
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so I purchased the transformer after rave reviews online. Unfortunately I'm finding an incredibly sluggish experience akin to my nexus 1 on stock 2.1. I'm at 3.1 and the latest firmware and the thing is almost unusable even after a fresh reboot. The launcher is sluggish and all tasks are jerky and delayed. Anyone have any tips to optimizing. The performance? I thought about an although launcher but that seems. Like it SHOULD be unnecessary on hardware like this....
My nexus on cm7 with go launcher is smooth as butter... any ideas? Any known issues?
So on a stock rom it feels like... a stock rom? Give it time. As honeycomb matures and more custom roms with optimizations come out it will definitely get better. The one complaint I have right now is choppy flash video which apparently does not affect other devices (even with equal hardware).
Basically, Asus needs to implement some fixes (like Flash) then get the source code into the hands of devs around here and we will be sorted. Honestly though, it's really not bad as it is. I'm loving it!
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Any known issues?
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Yes there are several if you read here and elsewhere, but nothing like you're describing AFAIK.
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so I purchased the transformer after rave reviews online. Unfortunately I'm finding an incredibly sluggish experience akin to my nexus 1 on stock 2.1. I'm at 3.1 and the latest firmware and the thing is almost unusable even after a fresh reboot. The launcher is sluggish and all tasks are jerky and delayed. Anyone have any tips to optimizing. The performance? I thought about an although launcher but that seems. Like it SHOULD be unnecessary on hardware like this....
My nexus on cm7 with go launcher is smooth as butter... any ideas? Any known issues?
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To me the default launcher on Asus is very sluggish even when 3.1 came out. I recommend get ADW Launcher Pro. Been using it from day one. Its also sluggish with the Samsung 10.1
I got mine yesterday, TBH I'm also little disappointed with the overall performance given its’ hardware spec. But its NOT extremely laggy a you describe. Early builds of most Android ROMs are like this. I experienced similar issues with my Galaxy S when I first got it, but with time things improved a lot. So I am anxiously waiting for Asus to come up with better ROMs (fixing Flash performance and overall laggyness of the browser and launcher).
@OP, there are plenty of youtube videos showing general performance; go through them and see if you experience anything out of the ordinary.
I haven't noticed the sluggishness myself. There have been a couple hiccups during periods of high load, thats about it.
I did turn Animations to "Some" though...
No slugishness for me. Even before 3.1 I didn't notice any. The animations could be set to be faster sometimes but thats about it. No jerkiness for sure.
++ there's something wrong with your Transformer.
I wouldn't describe the launcher as 'super smooth' but it's not 'almost unusable' by any stretch.
I have an HTC Incredible (almost identical hardware to the Nexus One) running CyanogenMod 7.03 (Android 2.3) and the Transformer is faster without a doubt.
The first thing you should try is a factory reset.
Is the interface and browser smooth like the ipad? I ask because i tried out a couple of stock android tabs like the sony s and xoom at a store and their scrolling and zooming was quite laggy compared to the ipad, same goes for the browser.
The whole issue about the unsmooth scrolling is much better on 3.2 ROMs, like for example Task650 GalaxyTask ROM.
It isn't entirely gone, but I hope this will come with Ice Cream Sandwich/Android 4.0.
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And to answer your questions: Yes, apart from occasional stuttering, it is as smooth as the iPad. Custom ROM/TouchScreenTune App do the trick for me.
Most of the apps in the system support H.W acceleration (browser , etc ) but the UI itself doesn't support it (it will come in ICS ) like the main launcher and the rotation and translations in the system that is why it shutters allot when using live wallpapers that is because the load is n the processor it self not on the gpu but ICS should fix all this issues, as i noticed even alpha builds are smoother than honeycomb
Android will always have more "stuttering" than the ipad. It's pretty simple to imagine why: on an ipad, all there is is a bunch of little standard sized icons. They don't display information, they don't change, they don't move or supply anything more than a link to open your app. They're just little cached images and so the whole interface moves smoothly because there's nothing to see, no work for the processor. Also, the screen is low resolution (1024x768), so there's less pixels to move around.
Android on the other hand has widgets that change and display information. They are not standardized and are often resizable. The whole interface is far more complex than the ipad. And the screen is higher resolution (1200x800) so there's more pixels.
So, sure, if "smooth scrolling of the homescreen" is your top priority, I'd say go with an ipad. It will always be simple and smooth. Emphasis on the simple.
If, on the other hand, you want customizability and information without having to open your apps, and a little jerkiness in the homescreen is OK with you, get an android tab.
Last bit: android allows you to install a different launcher (that's part of what I mean by "customizability"). ADW EX is very smooth...
Many of the roms on this forum can give you HW acceleration.
All i want is a silky smooth browser like the ipad/iphone. Tried android 2.2, 2.3,3.0,3,1,3.2, sense 3.0, sense 3.5, wp7, wp 7.5 NONE I REPEAT NONE can come close to the consistent smoothness of the safari browser. Is there a browser in the android market that can come close, cause i tried opera and its still not as smooth. Hope ICS will make it so.
Safari for ipad /iphone doesn't have flash so for sure it will be smoother , try opera mini it doesn't have flash so it shuld be faster
I've found that hardware acceleration is much smoother without TW. I'm running AOSP 3.2.2 (Overcome ROM) and have not noticed any lag and even noticed scrolling in say, Music, to not jump at all. Smoother than the iPad for sure.
I'm also verry happy with the Launcher in Overcome
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All i want is a silky smooth browser like the ipad/iphone. Tried android 2.2, 2.3,3.0,3,1,3.2, sense 3.0, sense 3.5, wp7, wp 7.5 NONE I REPEAT NONE can come close to the consistent smoothness of the safari browser. Is there a browser in the android market that can come close, cause i tried opera and its still not as smooth. Hope ICS will make it so.
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I use dolphin HD with flash loading on demand. It is the best browser I've used on any device so far.
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I've found that hardware acceleration is much smoother without TW. I'm running AOSP 3.2.2 (Overcome ROM) and have not noticed any lag and even noticed scrolling in say, Music, to not jump at all. Smoother than the iPad for sure.
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My experience is exactly the opposite. Touchwiz is so smooth and fluid in ways that regular honeycomb can't touch. The typind lag in the browser in stock honeycomb was enough to ruin the whole experience.
The only overcome rom I see is a touchwiz rom, where is this aosp overcome rom? I'll check it out on the off chance it is better than stock android.
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I've found that hardware acceleration is much smoother without TW. I'm running AOSP 3.2.2 (Overcome ROM) and have not noticed any lag and even noticed scrolling in say, Music, to not jump at all. Smoother than the iPad for sure.
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Where did you get Overcome AOSP ROM and that too 3.2.2
It is still TW. Right?
Will it be smooth like the ipad, when ics comes? Ive tried the overcome rom and there is still a bit a jerkiness/lagginess when using the screen capture function, exiting in and out, flipping through pages etc.
No. Get an ipad if smooth scrolling homescreens are the most important feature on a tablet for you.
3.2 will give you that smoothness. i use adw launcher ex and it pretty much fixed any lag. also recommend using spareparts+ to speed up opening window.
doesnt hurt to oc either
if you're not going to contribute then you can just keep ur post to yourself slack04
Everything you're asking can only be answered with speculation and dreams dude. I'm on 3.2 and don't see any of the lag you speak of.
Yes, ICS will bring hardware acceleration to the entire experience, should be a transformation.
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Answering the op question what lag? Sure if you have a slow device running top of the range os you will get lag
But since 3.2 I haven't seen any lag
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I think lag can be caused by many issues. For one, widgets with heavy graphics and constant refreshes can use up a lot of resources. There are also poorly made apps running in the background that may slow things down. I would just keep the homescreen as simple as possible if performance is a concern.
If ICS runs as smooth as it does on the Galaxy Nexus, yes, it will.
We will see it as soon as the first "complete" ROMs pop up, everything else is complete speculation.
3.2 made the tab a lot better, but still not completely lagfree in my opionion. Its response time varies from perfect (browser) to mediocre (app switcher - at least until its open).
Are you running on stock rom? I am running Task650 & Phantoms "In Paris" V5 OC'd to 1.4Gz with ADW launcher and it is pretty darn smooth even on Honeycomb 3.1. It will only get better with the 3.2 update coming in the near future. Check it out if you haven't already done so!
hardware acceleration in ICS improve performence allot , see alpha builds on the single core original galaxy tab 7 and HTC hd2 on youtube and you will see the big improvement in speed even with live wallpapers
Though it is true that ICS will have hardware acceleration, android will always lag at some point, seeing as it is an OS capable of being installed on a wide range of devices, and it can not be fully optimized for 1 device to make it lag-free.
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Though it is true that ICS will have hardware acceleration, android will always lag at some point, seeing as it is an OS capable of being installed on a wide range of devices, and it can not be fully optimized for 1 device to make it lag-free.
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this is not 100% true , the kernel function is to make the hardware make use of the options in the software ,so that is why each device has its own kernel , thus with good kernel each device can benifit from the hardware acceleration on its way , so existance of (hardware acceleration ) with supported kernel should eliminate lag
Im using the overcome rom, isnt that the best if i want the smoothest experience possible?
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this is not 100% true , the kernel function is to make the hardware make use of the options in the software ,so that is why each device has its own kernel , thus with good kernel each device can benifit from the hardware acceleration on its way , so existance of (hardware acceleration ) with supported kernel should eliminate lag
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But many companies don't bother with a good kernel. They pretty much use "Does it boot? Get it out the door" as a mantra.
The reason iOS is so smooth is because Apple tests devices for months and months to make sure the user experience is great. They put user experience over anything else, even features. I still get terrible lag on 3.2 while using my GT8.9. But hopefully ICS will fix that. But I won't bet money that all the lag will be gone. There's just not much optimization there, and throwing more cores at the software isn't going to fix that.
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Everything you're asking can only be answered with speculation and dreams dude. I'm on 3.2 and don't see any of the lag you speak of.
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Same here, because of your ROM! OP, get on Task's ROM. And have a funeral for your tablet lag.
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Everything you're asking can only be answered with speculation and dreams dude. I'm on 3.2 and don't see any of the lag you speak of.
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^^What he said...
Running GalaxyTask6.3 rom oc'd to 1.4ghz using adw ex launcher with boosted ics theme and it is SMOOTH as any apple device on the planet!
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Fasty12 said:
Im using the overcome rom, isnt that the best if i want the smoothest experience possible?
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Nope task650 v6.3 is the way to go
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3.2 was a nice upgrade in speed but after using ICS on my galaxy nexus I really can't wait for it to come to the tab 10.1 in one form or another.
The Galaxy Nexus does feel much smoother. Not sure if it's the hardware acceleration or just tighter code, but I'm eager to get ICS on my tab.
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i'm getting lag when flipping page's & application's as well .
I have to say, I am not impressed with this thing. Right out of the box I noticed that it was MUCH laggier than my Galaxy Nexus.
I figured it was just the bloated Samsung skin that caused it so I instantly rooted it and installed CM9 4.0.4. However, that doesn't seem to have helped much.
I've found that even just typing an email in Gmail causes the onscreen keyboard to become extremely slow after typing the first paragraph, to the point where I have to close out of Gmail and re-open it in order to get it to respond correctly again.
Is there something I'm missing here? Shouldn't this thing be much snappier than my Galaxy Nexus? Is there another ROM I should be using?
The two Rom's I like right now on mine are either the Galaxy Task or Clean Rom.
You could also try AOKP, that seemed to do pretty well on mine too.
Tegra 2 (or Tegra in general) just blows. At least for a device this size.
Have you tried using different keyboards? If not, it might be an idea to download and experiment with some to find if any resolve the lag issue. Just an idea.
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I have to say, I am not impressed with this thing. Right out of the box I noticed that it was MUCH laggier than my Galaxy Nexus.
I figured it was just the bloated Samsung skin that caused it so I instantly rooted it and installed CM9 4.0.4. However, that doesn't seem to have helped much.
I've found that even just typing an email in Gmail causes the onscreen keyboard to become extremely slow after typing the first paragraph, to the point where I have to close out of Gmail and re-open it in order to get it to respond correctly again.
Is there something I'm missing here? Shouldn't this thing be much snappier than my Galaxy Nexus? Is there another ROM I should be using?
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While tegra 2 isn't great, it shouldn't have problems with ICS. Even on a mostly stock honeycomb build, my tab is running pretty smoothly without overclocking. Except for the rare scrolling hiccup. Most likely the build isn't optimized well enough, and CM9 nightlies are still alpha builds at best. I would suggest either flashing a more stable debloated honeycomb build or waiting for at least an RC version of CM9.
I feel the same way, it's so slow its going backwards. I have almost stopped using it all together because it's a pain to use xd
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I have ICS AOKP installed on my GT-p7510 and I gotta say, it's pretty fast. Except from not having a working camera driver, there's nothing to complain about.
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I have to say, I am not impressed with this thing. Right out of the box I noticed that it was MUCH laggier than my Galaxy Nexus.
I figured it was just the bloated Samsung skin that caused it so I instantly rooted it and installed CM9 4.0.4. However, that doesn't seem to have helped much.
I've found that even just typing an email in Gmail causes the onscreen keyboard to become extremely slow after typing the first paragraph, to the point where I have to close out of Gmail and re-open it in order to get it to respond correctly again.
Is there something I'm missing here? Shouldn't this thing be much snappier than my Galaxy Nexus? Is there another ROM I should be using?
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Why would you ever think this tablet would be snappier than the Gnex? The Gnex is newer and has a newer and faster processor, with newer, more optimized software.
I don't get why you would think a tablet produced in May/June of last year would be somehow snappier than a device produced in October/November.
While I haven't found the tablet to have the same problems you described, I have to say I'm not very impressed with the Tab's performance. But we shouldn't be so quick to judge ICS; the drivers are community written so I wasn't expecting a lot out of them. ICS ROMs are smooth but there's always some sort of thing that pisses me off, or something that sparks a lagfest. Honeycomb ROMs seem to be a lot smoother. But I seem to notice a slice of laglaglag when the tablet is in portrait. Not that I use it in portrait, but still.
Games were a lagfest in both ICS and Honeycomb, the graphics looked pretty good but what use was it when the games are running at 10FPS? The only thing I can really say I like about this tablet is everything it's not supposed to do; run Ubuntu, both inside Android, and a native install of Ubuntu with Android removed. I like playing PS1 games on it too, something that crappy iPad couldn't do.
Another thing; tablet apps. Developers seem to ignore tablet users. Most apps I've used made me feel like my tablet was a big ass phone, and I've seen this complaint a lot.
But I gotta say I really regret not waiting. I wanted to go for the Transformer Prime but didn't want to wait. I regret letting my lack of patience get the best of me.
I hope you actually flashed a rom after flashing CWM or else there's obviously going to be no difference. I somehow have never experienced issues on my end. Everything is fast for me, with either a stock rooted/unrooted rom or a custom rom. And if you couldnt see a difference between Honeycomb and ICS on your tablet, then something must be wrong. Even with the small glitches and bugs, it's very fast. Maybe you should overclock as well.
same here- galaxy task10 is very smooth - couple it with ADW and it is very very snappy - ICS gives me a little bit more snap - so not sure what standards the OP is referencing since i also have Gnex and it does not feel any faster than my current tab
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I hope you actually flashed a rom after flashing CWM or else there's obviously going to be no difference. I somehow have never experienced issues on my end. Everything is fast for me, with either a stock rooted/unrooted rom or a custom rom. And if you couldnt see a difference between Honeycomb and ICS on your tablet, then something must be wrong. Even with the small glitches and bugs, it's very fast. Maybe you should overclock as well.
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Agreed with the previous 2 posters. I have used cyanogen, and am currently using task 14. While I too am wishing I had waited and bought the transformer (for other reasons), I am very happy with the responsiveness of my tab. Task 14 is, for me, a very smooth take on honeycomb. Add in some of boosted's themes for that ICS look, and I am quite content.
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I have to admit that I am upset with the smoothness of ics. Whilst it is smoother than honeycomb, it still has a long way to go before I would call it smooth. But, I am not making judgements on ics until Sammy release their official version, and hopefully that will be smoother as it isn't all the honeycomb kernel source code patched and hack to make ics work. Also, does anyone else notice that on cm9 games feel like they have a lower frame rate than honeycomb, I was comparing games like mine craft on cm9 compared to my friends stock gtab10.1 and his stock 3.2 had a much higher frame rate, does anyone worse find this the case please?
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I have to admit that I am upset with the smoothness of ics. Whilst it is smoother than honeycomb, it still has a long way to go before I would call it smooth. But, I am not making judgements on ics until Sammy release their official version, and hopefully that will be smoother as it isn't all the honeycomb kernel source code patched and hack to make ics work. Also, does anyone else notice that on cm9 games feel like they have a lower frame rate than honeycomb, I was comparing games like mine craft on cm9 compared to my friends stock gtab10.1 and his stock 3.2 had a much higher frame rate, does anyone worse find this the case please?
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U still have to bare in mind ics on our tablet is still alpha....
So I think comparing a alpha build with a yr old os is silly really :L!
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If I'm sick of lags I just overclock to 1400 and change the governor to performance.
Unfortunately I usually end up slowing that down when my battery drains in approximately 15 seconds...
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If I'm sick of lags I just overclock to 1400 and change the governor to performance.
Unfortunately I usually end up slowing that down when my battery drains in approximately 15 seconds...
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Galaxy task 14 + ADW + 1400 OC = smooth...
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I also notice the Galaxy tab 10.1 is laggy.
I own an Asus transformer prime and the missus owns the galaxy tab, and its true that out of the box the asus is much much faster, mostly on the home screens. I had attributed this as a difference between HC 3.2 and ICS, we shall see.
However,
I cant mention enough just how vastly superior the wifi is on the galaxy tab. The difference is night and day. Oh it works on the asus alright (I have the latest serial version), but it seems to be very patchy. After an hour of using the browser on my TF prime and then picking up the galaxy tab the connection feels so much more solid and responsive and using the tab comes as something of a relief.
Thing is, it doesnt really matter what the specs are on paper, all I really care about is responsiveness of a good looking UI and good wifi. I feel that the tf prime is going to need a hard mod to sort out the wifi, which i will not do. On the other hand, I feel that a software update on the tab could sort out some of its lag issues, which would make the tab more useful in my household for our needs.
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I also notice the Galaxy tab 10.1 is laggy.
I own an Asus transformer prime and the missus owns the galaxy tab, and its true that out of the box the asus is much much faster, mostly on the home screens. I had attributed this as a difference between HC 3.2 and ICS, we shall see.
However,
I cant mention enough just how vastly superior the wifi is on the galaxy tab. The difference is night and day. Oh it works on the asus alright (I have the latest serial version), but it seems to be very patchy. After an hour of using the browser on my TF prime and then picking up the galaxy tab the connection feels so much more solid and responsive and using the tab comes as something of a relief.
Thing is, it doesnt really matter what the specs are on paper, all I really care about is responsiveness of a good looking UI and good wifi. I feel that the tf prime is going to need a hard mod to sort out the wifi, which i will not do. On the other hand, I feel that a software update on the tab could sort out some of its lag issues, which would make the tab more useful in my household for our needs.
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Well a combination of ICS and a quad-core processor will blow away the Galaxy Tab without question.
stock = sucks
stock + swype keyboard = sucks ^2
In my case I flashed Gtask rom or overcome with pershoot kernel and keep avoiding swype.. and everything runs like silk now.
i'm not experiencing ANY lag what so ever after i flashed this rom:
[ROM] [ICS] Android Open Kang Project - p4/wifi/vzw - milestone 4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459287
So i just bought a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 with ICS 4.0.3. After a few days i have to say that the experience is terrifying and using the tab now feels like torture. The UI is so massively stuttering and laggy that my eyes are hurting after 10 minutes. Be it web-browsing with all kind of browsers or using facebook or just searching through the menus,... and the worst stutter is in Play Store.
I know that JB is supposed bring the smoothness to a near iDevices-level. I used a JB Transformer Prime before. It is super smooth and is worlds apart from an ICS Transformer Prime. But the Prime has Tegra 3 while the Galaxy Tab 2 has only Tegra 2. The experience with the tab 2 was so horrible that I'm afraid that even JB won't be able to save it.
I was about to return the tab so i don't really want to install an (incomplete) custom JB on it and then have to restore it to stock state. Because as i said, i fear JB is not enough. So anyone who has installed JB on the tab 2 please share your experience with me? If JB is really that great i may give it a try anyway.
Thank you very much!
Even the update from 4.0.3 to 4.0.4 was a big improvement IMO for the stock software. I haven't tested out the JB OTA leak, but I do know that AOSP/CM10 Jelly Bean works really well on my 7" tablet.
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I just upgraded to 4.0.4. It is indeed a minor improvement over 4.0.3 although not as much as I hoped. The UI is still very stuttering and spiky. Sometimes even unresponsive. I guess I will just have to return it. Sadly I like most of Samsung product. But I will have to go for a transformer prime or infinity.
Did you turn off power saving?
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Running cm or aokp makes a huge difference. Its the fastest it will ever be with it. With stock its clearly the slowest it will ever be. Some roms that are based on stock but trimmed down are fast. Check around and do some research.
Remember, you can always go back if you don't like it.
I just installed the jb leak. Extremely smooth.
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I just installed the jb leak. Extremely smooth.
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I had 4.0.3 too on my tab2, and what you said it all did got them but after i installed jb it went realy fast !
Try aokp build 4 or cm10 from www.teamhacksung.org
No stutter at all, i use it now
But make a nandroid backup first
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The galaxy tab 2 is not a tegra device. It uses a TI OMAP processor which is completely open rather than a closed and proprietary nvidia tegra. That's where there are already jellybean roms out for it if you want to flash them.
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I have the 7" tab and with 4.0.3 I had the same experience as OP, but JB leak cured that.
I tried CM10 first, very smooth, but the lack of WiFi direct, Polaris office and video codecs were a deal breaker for me.
I suggest trying a JB rom before returning the tab.
AOKP Build 4 is like butter
iv found the JB leak to not be that smooth on my tab 2 The app store scrolling is slow and so is going from home page to home page...is something wrong? Iv got the Tab 2 3g 10.1??
Experience is nothing like the Note 2 which is amazing! (so good iv not even gone for a custom rom) I know that has the quad core but surely shouldnt be this bad...
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So i just bought a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 with ICS 4.0.3. After a few days i have to say that the experience is terrifying and using the tab now feels like torture. The UI is so massively stuttering and laggy that my eyes are hurting after 10 minutes. Be it web-browsing with all kind of browsers or using facebook or just searching through the menus,... and the worst stutter is in Play Store.
I know that JB is supposed bring the smoothness to a near iDevices-level. I used a JB Transformer Prime before. It is super smooth and is worlds apart from an ICS Transformer Prime. But the Prime has Tegra 3 while the Galaxy Tab 2 has only Tegra 2. The experience with the tab 2 was so horrible that I'm afraid that even JB won't be able to save it.
I was about to return the tab so i don't really want to install an (incomplete) custom JB on it and then have to restore it to stock state. Because as i said, i fear JB is not enough. So anyone who has installed JB on the tab 2 please share your experience with me? If JB is really that great i may give it a try anyway.
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If you really have the situation you described, and you have turned off the power saving mode, then the difference between stock and JB variants won't be noticeable because you have some other issues that are degrading the normal performance.
This tablet performs quite well under normal circumstances with the stock ICS. It has plenty of memory and an adequate processor. SO there are a few possible answer for your problem.
1. You might have failed hardware.
2. You might be loading the device with so many active widgets and background programs that you are eating all the RAM up. That's hard to do, but possible especially if you have some poorly written , misbehaving apps..
3. You have some badly behaving apps that are eating memory and cpu.
4. Do not use auto task killers with ICS, these will fight Android's built-in system optimization and slow your apps down. You can use the manual task manager to kill a misbehaving app if needed.
First open the task manager and see what you have.
When I open it, normally I have about 450Mb used out of 830Mb it displays 450 / 830 and you will see a few active apps. CPU numbers for the active apps should be very low. Mine usually shows 0.0 or 0.X so very low. If you have a app with a high CPU number, that could be your problem.
As you open more app, more memory is used., but that's ok, Android does not remove apps from memory until it needs to.
If you have more than 80% of memory used, things can begin to slow down. That should not happen unless you are running several poorly written apps that are going rouge and eating memory. What does your task manager show?
So-called debloating, removing some unused apps from the ROM is a placebo. If you don't run them, they are sitting in SSD storage doing nothing and have no effect on speed or RAM.
Samsungs Touchwiz additions to the UI have a pretty small footprint and don't impact responsiveness as far as I can measure.
Once we get a fully working kernel, there are some inherent UI speed ups in JB, and those will come in the stock ROMs as well, but that won't fix the situation you have which is an anomaly.
You can monitor applications , memory and CPU usage with a app such as System Tuner
I posted a screenshot.
For me, the stock 4.0.3 was terrible! Even considered returning the tablet due to lag. But flashed AOKP 4.1.1 and feels like a brand new machine. Very smooth and no lags whatsoever!
Hi everyone glad to find this post..!
Ok yo begin with I bought a tab2 10.1 GTP5113 ver. With ICS 4.0.3 ..!
I haven't unlocked or rooted ..! It was smooth everything was nice except if I had many apps opened then it was laggy
I was able to add the incremental update named UEBLH firmware..!!
Then I installed the leaked jellybean firmware on it..! Still everything working fine..!
Its much more smoother and sexier in handling... The UI is beautiful and operation is verryyy smooth ..!
But to my surprise the IR blaster (smart remote control) isn't working anymore and the camera is crappy..! It's garbage..!! It doesn't autofocus anymore..!
I wanted to ask someone has same issues..? And was the camera crappy in previous versions as well. ?
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For me its a big difference going from 4.04 to newest kang jb.
Overclocked to 1.4 and still battery seems to last alot longer and i just find it strange.
Surfing web is insane fast.
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and the camera is crappy..! It's garbage..!! It doesn't autofocus anymore..!
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I don't think the cameras ever auto-focused on the Tab 2's. I know the rear camera on my p3113 doesn't and Face Unlock stopped working for me which was ok because I had to hold my face in a certain spot for it to work anyway since the front camera couldn't change focus.
Back on topic though, I'm running my build of Paranoid Android and it's slicker than a greased pig. It is 4.1.2, but it is way snappier than CM9 was on the p3113.