I was using a htc desire before moving on to the desire z a few weeks ago, the rom I used before I moved to the desire z is Runnymede by Sebastian15, This rom is pretty awesome, it actually runs as good or better then any sense 3.5 roms ever made for the desire z.
Desire - 1.2ghz
Desire Z - 1.5Ghz
(desire z is faster)
Desire- 576 mb ram
Desire z - 512mb ram (but i think the desire z's ram is faster)
(desire z has 64 mb less ram, not a big difference)
Desire - Adreno 200
Desire Z- Adreno 205
(Big difference, desire z is much faster)
Desire- 512 mb rom
Desire Z 1.5gb rom
(No need for ext4 partition for system apps, therefore, desire z is faster)
Please port this rom as i know it will be superfast, runs great without swap, make a big impact on sense 3.5 roms for our device.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315961&page=1022
Ill have a go at it
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Thanks, I think the port of this rom will change how people view sense 3.5 as "smooth and fast"
all im saying is, this is hard haha, might take a while
How about a touchwiz 4.0 or miui rom (themed). I mean we already got so many sense and stock/cm7 roms. I think a change will be good. And touchwiz is a good second to sense. And if u do it thanks.
I have never heard anything good about touch wiz. I could be wrong but a lot of people on g+ loathe it.
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touchwiz? Are u serious bro? I bought the desire z cuz I don't want touchwiz. What's good bout touchwiz anyway?
plenty of great Runnymede ports for G2/Desire-Z already, such as:
Virtuous Affinity 1.48.0 based on Runnymede
BinDroid RUNMED2.5 V1.1 [Sense3.5] [Unity Kernel]
RunnyDrOiD v2.1 By PVTEAM | Ultrafast & Smooth | 2.3.5 | Sense 3.5
MikRunny v1.01 - [ Sense 3.5 | 2.3.5 | Tweaks | Odex/Deodex ]
RCMix3d Runny v4.0 [Official runnymede sense 3.5 Android 2.3.5][OC]
Vision-RunnyMede-Sense 3.5| (2.3.5) ||v1.3||
Am currently porting it, but it bootloops atm >:l heres the logcat http://pastebin.com/eBdZVWSk
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xT4Z1N4TRx said:
Am currently porting it, but it bootloops atm >:l heres the logcat http://pastebin.com/eBdZVWSk
Nice to hear that u r trying to port it, but what does those logs mean?
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I was using a htc desire before moving on to the desire z a few weeks ago, the rom I used before I moved to the desire z is Runnymede by Sebastian15, This rom is pretty awesome, it actually runs as good or better then any sense 3.5 roms ever made for the desire z.
Desire - 1.2ghz
Desire Z - 1.5Ghz
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What? The Desire Z runs are 800mhz and the Desire runs at 1 ghz. The processor on the Desire Z is more efficient.
Desire- 576 mb ram
Desire z - 512mb ram (but i think the desire z's ram is faster)
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They run at the same speed.
Desire - Adreno 200
Desire Z- Adreno 205
(Big difference, desire z is much faster)
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Correct
Desire- 512 mb rom
Desire Z 1.5gb rom
(No need for ext4 partition for system apps, therefore, desire z is faster)
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Not really "faster"........Just better.
Porting a ROM is not all that difficult. Just takes time. If you want to port it, you most likely are going to have to do it yourself as the original creator probably only has a Desire to test it out with, which is the biggest part when porting/AOSP.
woot! woot!
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What? The Desire Z runs are 800mhz and the Desire runs at 1 ghz. The processor on the Desire Z is more efficient.
They run at the same speed.
Correct
Not really "faster"........Just better.
Porting a ROM is not all that difficult. Just takes time. If you want to port it, you most likely are going to have to do it yourself as the original creator probably only has a Desire to test it out with, which is the biggest part when porting/AOSP.
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Lol u think this one isn't difficult? You have to make sure the HBOOT isn't touched (because the rom automatically changes it to a desire one, which would brick), make sure ext4 isn't used for sd apps, instead system is, make sure all symlinks are right, data is correctly formatted, the right libs are swapped, the architecture files are changed, then it not booting even though logcat is fine?
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What? The Desire Z runs are 800mhz and the Desire runs at 1 ghz. The processor on the Desire Z is more efficient.
They run at the same speed.
Correct
Not really "faster"........Just better.
Porting a ROM is not all that difficult. Just takes time. If you want to port it, you most likely are going to have to do it yourself as the original creator probably only has a Desire to test it out with, which is the biggest part when porting/AOSP.
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I meant overclocked, desire z runs 1.5ghz safely, desire 1.2ghz safely.
Desire Z - 45nm
Desire - 65nm
So our CPU is much faster then the desire's
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Lol u think this one isn't difficult? You have to make sure the HBOOT isn't touched (because the rom automatically changes it to a desire one, which would brick), make sure ext4 isn't used for sd apps, instead system is, make sure all symlinks are right, data is correctly formatted, the right libs are swapped, the architecture files are changed, then it not booting even though logcat is fine?
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You follow the SAME steps done in the original ROM. If it works, simple porting. If it doesnt THEN it gets intresting. But post ports have 50% of the work already done.
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I meant overclocked, desire z runs 1.5ghz safely, desire 1.2ghz safely.
Desire Z - 45nm
Desire - 65nm
So our CPU is much faster then the desire's
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When a ROM is created (or ported) overclocking speeds are NEVER taken in consideration. It must work from a phone that comes out of factory.
If a modder based his ROMs on overclocked devices (hell, if any software developer based their work on overclocked devices) we would have so much incompatibility.......
infact, sorry, im not going to port it. instead, im gunna make my own rom, with similar customisations
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infact, sorry, im not going to port it. instead, im gunna make my own rom, with similar customisations
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OK then, just hoping it will be smooth and fast
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It turns out that the reason their roms are so fast, is because they have GPU+, which means that its kind of overclocked, and results in a >21% increase in 3D performance. If we could do this too, our sense3.5 would be much better
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It turns out that the reason their roms are so fast, is because they have GPU+, which means that its kind of overclocked, and results in a >21% increase in 3D performance. If we could do this too, our sense3.5 would be much better
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Gpu+ makes 29fps to 38fps, we have adreno 205, which does 58fps
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Gpu+ makes 29fps to 38fps, we have adreno 205, which does 58fps
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Oh....
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Im new here and i want to know which one its the stable Android ROM , im using MDJ HD 4.6 and it run perfectly for me but after reading some guys tell Desire Z run
Smoother
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Im new here and i want to know which one its the stable Android ROM , im using MDJ HD 4.6 and it run perfectly for me but after reading some guys tell Desire Z run
Smoother
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Here's a link that explains the differences, but basically DesireHD is almost exactly like the HD2...if has a 4.3" screen and similar body style. The DesireZ has a 3.7" screen and a slide out keyboard. Both Android versions are basically the same, though. At least in my experience with the MDJ DesireHD and the dandiest DesireZ builds, I see no difference other than the dandiest build being faster and smoother and almost perfect.
DesireHD vs. DesireZ
what about landscape Sense? does Desire Z have it?
dan's desire z build is faster coz its overclocked.
you'll need to do a side by side comparison on both being overclocked to the same speed to really see.
that being said,i've tried dan's build.its smooth and faster.less glitchy.but i didn't overclock mdj's DHD build,so i cannot say for sure if it will be the same on the same clockspeed.
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what about landscape Sense? does Desire Z have it?
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Yes it does have landscape sense with g sensor
Personal experience: ced's Desire HD2's keyboard has directional buttons, whereas dan's Desire Z counterpart hasn't got those...
I'm currently running the desire hd Rom on my hd2. It's CMYLXGO's Desire HD NAND. I liked it, but now it seems sluggish and unstable. It freezes a lot and runs very slow. Any ideas on a better ROM with the Sense feature? It would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
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IMO CMYLXGO's roms are the best, sorry really can't speak for any others...
If you want a fast sense rom, go with desire builds or desire z builds. Both are faster but desire is fastest of them all, comparable to even the speed of non sense builds.
Thanks to you both, I do like the desire builds, I'll try some z builds.
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RAFDROID HD best
dude, there is certainly something wrong with you're installation...CMYLXGO's builds are one of the smoothest build w/ full desire HD Sense
Is there a Desire HD Rom anywhere for the G2?? I know there is a Desire S ROM.. but I would imagine that's not about the same as the HD rom?
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you're an idiot
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you're an idiot
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There is absolutely no need to be a ****. Did you get this far (in your apparent superior knowledge) without ever asking a question? And have you as a human being ever asked a stupid question? Id bet money you have. And to my knowledge there is no Desire HD rom out currently. cheers!
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you're an idiot
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Aha...How nice. Am not sure if there is one out but try out magics disire S port. Really nice rom
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I might be wrong here, but I thought the Desire Z and Desire HD stock ROMs were identical (from a features viewpoint). I've got the Desire Z and my friend has a Desire HD and whilst I'm now on CM7, her HD looks/feels exactly like my Z did (well a little bit quicker probably because of the bigger CPU)
They launched about the same time and were both originally the only ones which could use htcsense.com as well so realistically if you're just looking for a Sense ROM for your G2 I would just suggest Virtuous (which to me felt like the stock ROM, but a million times better) or one of the other DZ ROMs. Hope this is of some help!
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What diff in HD rom?
Well it might be the same sense but you would still need to port it. Remember Disire Z has a keyboard and HD does not.
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desire hd, desire s are pretty much the same rom same version of sense
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desire hd, desire s are pretty much the same rom same version of sense
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You mean the Desire HD and the Desire Z, I think.
Desire S is Gingerbread.
there is a desire hd gingerbread sense rom, but its exactly the same as the desire s rom. no point in porting it.
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you're an idiot
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Maybe you're used to other forums or blogs or something, but try not to be a jerk here at XDA.
siulmagic said:
there is a desire hd gingerbread sense rom, but its exactly the same as the desire s rom. no point in porting it.
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So the DHD got it before the Vision did? Dammit!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1245938&page=10
the Sense 3.5 has been made available from Bliss
Its time to port it to DZ/G2..
Dev's plzzzzz..
Innocent Devil said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1245938&page=10
the Sense 3.5 has been made available from Bliss
Its time to port it to DZ/G2..
Dev's plzzzzz..
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Sense 3.5 uses more memory than sense 3.0. If virtuous unity only has like 100mb of free ram then sense 3.5 will have even less which will make our phones extremely slow. Other devices such as dhd can handle it better as the have more onboard ram
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Sense 3.5 uses more memory than sense 3.0. If virtuous unity only has like 100mb of free ram then sense 3.5 will have even less which will make our phones extremely slow. Other devices such as dhd can handle it better as the have more onboard ram.
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I agree. Pretty sure Sense 3.0 is pushing the limits of the G2/DZ hardware already. Not enough ROM, not enough RAM, and a 800mhz stock CPU.
But htc bliss is 800mhz and 512ram device. And i read sense 3.5 is even lighter and polished than sense 3.
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But htc bliss is 800mhz and 512ram device. And i read sense 3.5 is even lighter and polished than sense 3.
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Agree, uglier, too
I agree, getting this ported would be amazing! The Bliss does sport 512mb ram and an 800mhz single core processor. I believe this may be a great chance at Sense for our phones.
so we are waiting for the port then. Someone from Desire HD port thread said that it works smoother than sense 3.0.
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Sense 3.5 uses more memory than sense 3.0. If virtuous unity only has like 100mb of free ram then sense 3.5 will have even less which will make our phones extremely slow. Other devices such as dhd can handle it better as the have more onboard ram
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This is actualy not true. Sense 3.0 on DHD is slower and uses more ram, as i've been checking it out on my dhd. Sense 3.5 seems to be lighter and smoother than anything else. I think 3.5 is an attempt from htc to make faster UI for more devices, since the sense 3.0 can only be originally supported by 3 devices. So, why should HTC stick to those 3 devices and stop supporting over 9000 older devices? And since Android Phones will now HAVE TO BE UPDATED with latest android for 18months since they hit the market, it is the logical move for HTC to make better, wider supported UI for more devices. Also, since 3.5 is official, u'll notice that app resizing will no longer be a problem since 3.5 detects everyhting by itself.
So, yet again, a smart move HTC did.
HTC Sense 3.5 = updated 3.0 UI for all HTC devices which will have more support and better performance
HTC Sense 3.0 = HTC UI for devices with at least dual core high end devices (HTC Sensation/EVO 3D/..)
Also, this 3.5 version is still testing-key version from HTC, so don't expect its the final release since theme is ugly and chicky. There is a theme on HTC Hub that is a bit better, but not fully supported yet. Still missing some changes in 3.5 feautures.
SIGNED!
Innocent Devil said:
But htc bliss is 800mhz and 512ram device. And i read sense 3.5 is even lighter and polished than sense 3.
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From the htc bliss ROM leak on youtube all showed that sense 3.5 uses more ram than sense 3.0
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porting would not hard to g2 because i port sometimes something from here to desire s and they work good with little issues.
i can help to port, if someone want to test it. just mail me msn adress and we can talk about..
I think it's not likely that HTC will make an update for older devices but us here making a port would be nice
has anyone tried "virtuous_unity-2.35.0.zip" g2 files to porting this rom. should work i think. here is tutorial for this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1222746
3.5 would be faster on our devices. im gunna make a port of it soon anyway.
xT4Z1N4TRx said:
3.5 would be faster on our devices. im gunna make a port of it soon anyway.
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I love you so much.
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I love you so much.
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haha, everyone does anyway ill release a port in the next few days
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I tried, that, but it seems same problem unity had size of system partition.
So Some file removals need to be done, after that it may work.
@xT4Z1N4TRx all the best.
We hoping for Sense 3.5 running on our devices....
Oh man, I am so excited. You have no idea. LOL.
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Ill probs release it on wednesday.....
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Ill probs release it on wednesday.....
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Sweet man, I made a post over in the Q&A section about porting it... I was just trying cause I've been wanting to get into the whole development scene. Lol. I am having two errors that I can't really figure out. Well, the first one I think I may but the second one not so sure.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1248737
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Sweet man, I made a post over in the Q&A section about porting it... I was just trying cause I've been wanting to get into the whole development scene. Lol. I am having two errors that I can't really figure out. Well, the first one I think I may but the second one not so sure.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1248737
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RCMix3D_Bliss_v1.2 boots when you copy over files from unity (just the ones from \devices\vision except \devices\vision\system\lib\libui.so ) and adjust build.prop. But it lags a lot.
Great news, guys!
Virtuous team has released a rom based on Android 4.0.4 with sense 3.6 for Desire S test-key. Porting to DHD is possible now. With the similar hardware, porting should be perfect (camera fully working)!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1669497
Still we have to wait for releasing this for DHD or we can download from desire s forum and flash on our DHD via recovery....?
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anoopverma1 said:
Still we have to wait for releasing this for DHD or we can download from desire s forum and flash on our DHD via recovery....?
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Surely we have to wait, but not long.
anoopverma1 said:
Still we have to wait for releasing this for DHD or we can download from desire s forum and flash on our DHD via recovery....?
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Nooooooo! Do not flash it on your DHD just wait it shouldn't be long. I think it won't take much longer than a week or two to get FULLY working ics! I
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luzhuwang said:
Great news, guys!
Virtuous team has released a rom based on Android 4.0.4 with sense 3.6 for Desire S test-key. Porting to DHD is possible now. With the similar hardware, porting should be perfect (camera fully working)!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1669497
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Yes,very big great
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Looks like this leak is not useful for us. Kernel is Desire S specific and it doesn't boot. Also the base isn't worth porting, so it seems we have to wait for a leak or official firmware.Read down from this post
Great! now camera problem can be solved.
Well i have been on ICS for sometime now on my DHD and love it. People have been trying to get Sense to work but never get the Camera to function... I wish someone could get Sense 4 to work, i don't think i will flash a 3.6 Sense if there is still the pip dream of a 4 out there in the works. But hopefully with this they can fix the flaws in the broken Sense 4 Roms that we all are waiting for!
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Well i have been on ICS for sometime now on my DHD and love it. People have been trying to get Sense to work but never get the Camera to function... I wish someone could get Sense 4 to work, i don't think i will flash a 3.6 Sense if there is still the pip dream of a 4 out there in the works. But hopefully with this they can fix the flaws in the broken Sense 4 Roms that we all are waiting for!
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Why don't you want sense 3.6? What do you think is the difference with 4 and 3.6...?
rumibd said:
Great! now camera problem can be solved.
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no that isn't true!
I think Sense 3.6 can be even better than 4. Don't know exactly, but it seems we can get nothing better than Sense 4 lite which doesn't have all the features of Sense 4. So I'd better use either AOSP or Sense 3.6
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I think Sense 3.6 can be even better than 4. Don't know exactly, but it seems we can get nothing better than Sense 4 lite which doesn't have all the features of Sense 4. So I'd better use either AOSP or Sense 3.6
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Yes,Iam permission
Untill dhd source code of kernel won't be released it's useless to wait fully working rom. If So it will be not-fully-working ported rom 'cause it will be based on 2.xx kernel not 3.xx
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I'd just like to see a Sense 3.6 with some of the nicer features ported from Sense 4.0 like the lockscreens, general themes, etc..
Hi all, for me I rather have a vanilla ice since sense doesn't make sense to me. It such a bloat ware for me. I've been using pics for two weeks and it's feel great!
The only issue was when you installed Facebook its getting a lot slower! It's issue with Facebook not ics I supposed. Can't wait for a fully functional camera
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What was the supposed release date of the android 4.0 release for the Desire S ? Like that we can maybe calculate when the leak will be available for the DHD.
great news it's time
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What was the supposed release date of the android 4.0 release for the Desire S ? Like that we can maybe calculate when the leak will be available for the DHD.
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if im not mistaken, desire s was about to get ICS in june-july.
desire hd is supposed to be getting it in july-august.
desire s got a leak in the end of may.
according to that infos, desire hd should get a leak in the end of june. so one more month to go.
heeeeell, im a genius! lol
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if im not mistaken, desire s was about to get ICS in june-july.
desire hd is supposed to be getting it in july-august.
desire s got a leak in the end of may.
according to that infos, desire hd should get a leak in the end of june. so one more month to go.
heeeeell, im a genius! lol
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I hope so, too!
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[secret] said:
if im not mistaken, desire s was about to get ICS in june-july.
desire hd is supposed to be getting it in july-august.
desire s got a leak in the end of may.
according to that infos, desire hd should get a leak in the end of june. so one more month to go.
heeeeell, im a genius! lol
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I hope so.