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For those of you who are thinking about jumping to Xoom

Save your $ or wait for 10.1 Galaxy Tab or be happy with 7"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970171
And if you already about one @ $800+, go return it for cheaper one here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=968043

I spent nearly an hour today playing with a XOOM demo. I was impressed with the snappiness of the hardware, but incredibly unimpressed with Honeycomb.
Maybe its just a matter of being too used to something and not wanting to change.
But it seemed to me many things were out of place, and I couldn't do the things I wanted to do in the manner I have become used to.
I would be happy with a dual core Tab, but I dont need no stinking Honeycomb!

Hmmm. I think honeycomb is pretty cool.
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Don't get peoples hopes up. The 25% coupon error was squashed by Motorola long before your post.

That deal was dead yesterday.
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Xoom users, your device review later on..

My brother in law recently asked me if I wanted to take his xoom off his hands for 400$ bucks. First off I'm not too fond of the moto brand butim willing to give it a shot. Anywho I was wondering to get some general input on the device.
How are you guys digging the speed, over all performance of the device?
are there any hardware quirks or the like I should know of?
How easy is it to obtain the 1.5ghz overclock? Also how is it faring in battery life and system stability with the oc?
Sorry for the questions but seeing reports of gt10.1 feeling snappier and smoother than the xoom I got a little worried. Seeing as if they're almost identical on the silicon front.
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The Xoom and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 use the exact same processor/gpu and software, anyone who says it's faster is just wrong.

Quite frankly while oc to 1.5G is extremely good and many thanks to our devs here,
new 3.1 stock is running smooth like silk and much much faster than even the oc one of 3.0.1
I think google hit the major home run on the previous ipad 2 advantage, the responsiveness of everything (apps, screen etc)
LOVING MY 3.1 so far.

They aren't using the same processor. The xoom uses a tegra 2 while the galaxy tab uses a new Samsung dualcore Orion processor, similar to the apple a5.
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>while the galaxy tab uses a new Samsung dualcore Orion
Link, please?

Berzerker7 said:
They aren't using the same processor. The xoom uses a tegra 2 while the galaxy tab uses a new Samsung dualcore Orion processor, similar to the apple a5.
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I don't know where you heard that crazy fact. That was a false rumor from 2010.
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Still... what are some things you guys love and hate about your xoom? I don't really like site reviews because they usually only report on first impressions. I want feedback from people that have had it for months now. I am an epic 4g owner. One of the things I was wondering if I could do was use the psx emu coupled with a controller. I heard 3.1 gave you guys the ability to use a 360 or ps3 controller. This is one of the biggest selling points to me. Emus. How are you guys doing with them?
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>while the galaxy tab uses a new Samsung dualcore Orion
Link, please?
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The G-Tab uses Tegra 2
engadget.com/2011/02/13/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-official-tegra-2-honeycomb-dual-camer

RushAOZ said:
Still... what are some things you guys love and hate about your xoom? I don't really like site reviews because they usually only report on first impressions. I want feedback from people that have had it for months now. I am an epic 4g owner. One of the things I was wondering if I could do was use the psx emu coupled with a controller. I heard 3.1 gave you guys the ability to use a 360 or ps3 controller. This is one of the biggest selling points to me. Emus. How are you guys doing with them?
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Wow, I actually wrote a pretty great reply to you and accidentally hit discard on my Xoom, that's -1 lol.
So I'm not going to type everything I typed previously but ill try to end with this. Specifically I like myXoom because its small with a bignscreen, it has a good weight and feel to it, not a huge fan of the super thin stuff.
You won't catch too many people here saying this but, as long as it runs 3.0+ you're golden, they'll all do the same stuff. The Xoom does have pretty much everything, I read somewhere the Tab does not have a micro USB port, that's a dealbreaker for me.
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[Off-Topic] Which tablet

I just wanted to ask you guys my fellow Epic owners if any of you own an Android tablet and from a development standpoint which one would you go with? Are there any Epic devs that do any tablet custom work?
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Bonsai has had a ROM out for the Galaxy 10.1 for a couple of weeks now. Also working on the ASUS Transformer.

Those are the two front runners on my list right now with Asus being in the lead.
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If I were to buy a tablet, i'd either get:
Cheap: Nook Color, already has a big community, cm7, hc
Not so cheap: Galaxy Tab 10.1, cleanest looking HC tablet I've seen, and I've seen 'em all.
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.

transformer has bang for buck value however ive seen two at work haber to be returned due to non responsive screens.
Galaxy 10.1 stopped me from buying the flyer/view. I really liked the 7 inch screen but the galaxy just felt great....nicest thing compared to the ipad.
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I'm getting a transformer once they fix the bugs and 3.0 is open source. I'm keeping an eye on the forums.
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Dont forget about HP touchpad.
Yeah it got many bugs and negative reviews due to bugs but after an update im sure that web os will shine on it.Its slow and lags because hp dint have anough time to write the code for touchpad's gpu so basicly right now cpu does all gpu tasks.
Yeah I want GS 10.1 too but I will wait and see if hp fixes touchpad first because I want something different from ios and android.

Ill be buying an android tablet once they stop using the tegra 2. Until then, 10 ft poll.
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muyoso said:
Ill be buying an android tablet once they stop using the tegra 2. Until then, 10 ft poll.
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The transformer can be oced to 1.6 stable on a dual core tegra
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I have a galaxy tab 10.1 and I love it so much. It was a tough choice between the tab and the Asus transformer... but I just liked the size/weight of the tab better.

Don't buy a Honeycomb tablet.
Wait for Ice Cream or later when the interesting hardware and software optimizations take hold with 10 "retina display" equivalents and quad core processors.

I was gonna buy once a quad core came out..but after seeing a gtab for 250$ new that has a tegra 2 cpu I couldn't resist...it has a port of cm7 and honeycomb. and stuff...they aren't perfect but they work for the most part. Its biggest weakness right now is lack of honeycomb tegra 2 drivers and its screen is not the best LCD tech used..otherwise its ok..

Xhyperion said:
The transformer can be oced to 1.6 stable on a dual core tegra
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And still can't play media files my phone can . . . . .
That's why I have no interest in a tegra 2 tablet. Complete and utter failure to play ALL high profile h.264 video in at least 720p, which is something my epic can do and the original ipad can do. Yes,, the original single core ipad..
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gTen said:
I was gonna buy once a quad core came out..but after seeing a gtab for 250$ new that has a tegra 2 cpu I couldn't resist...it has a port of cm7 and honeycomb. and stuff...they aren't perfect but they work for the most part. Its biggest weakness right now is lack of honeycomb tegra 2 drivers and its screen is not the best LCD tech used..otherwise its ok..
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The 7" gab does not have a tegra 2 and is not dual core.
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I had a sylvania tablet for the the longest and manged to get Google Market and froyo on it (unless you had one, you know that was a GREAT feat!) and I was happy with it...unfortunately, circumstances forced me to sell it and when I did he had just gotten rid of his 7' Galaxy Tab, telling me that the simplest tilt would make it change orientation quickly. I was surprised that he chucked it for a sylvania. I plan on either getting a Color Nook next, or try to find a sale on an Acer a500.
Also:ironically, 3 weeks after I sold the Sylvania Tablet, the source code was finally released for it, which means development for it is soon to rise *sigh* real bad time, I guess...

We bought a bunch of sgtabs at work. Love mine from a practical standpoint, but the dev world is a bit behind. I don't think its lacking much, just a reliable cwm and then a complete set of stock files (modem, kernel, rom) and things will be moving. I expect the source will eventually come out. I hear that's what's lacking in the kernel dev dept. Personally I like samsung. When the 4g 10.1 is released I plan on getting that one. Despite the slow update releases, you have to admit, the galaxy s line rocks.
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usagi111 said:
I had a sylvania tablet for the the longest and manged to get Google Market and froyo on it (unless you had one, you know that was a GREAT feat!) and I was happy with it...unfortunately, circumstances forced me to sell it and when I did he had just gotten rid of his 7' Galaxy Tab, telling me that the simplest tilt would make it change orientation quickly. I was surprised that he chucked it for a sylvania. I plan on either getting a Color Nook next, or try to find a sale on an Acer a500.
Also:ironically, 3 weeks after I sold the Sylvania Tablet, the source code was finally released for it, which means development for it is soon to rise *sigh* real bad time, I guess...
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I looked at the Acer A500 for a long time, I really wanted it. But after read tablet reviews on Engadget I changed my mind. The A500 definitely looks great and has a great looking screen.

I have a motorola xoom and just got the 3.2 upgrade. The xoom is the default google experience device so it gets all of the updates (us only). Which is quite nice when compared to the epic's slow upgrade process.
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063_XOBX said:
Don't buy a Honeycomb tablet.
Wait for Ice Cream or later when the interesting hardware and software optimizations take hold with 10 "retina display" equivalents and quad core processors.
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Hmmmm.....I think this is some
good advice. I'll hold off for a little bit.
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lviv73 said:
Dont forget about HP touchpad.
Yeah it got many bugs and negative reviews due to bugs but after an update im sure that web os will shine on it.Its slow and lags because hp dint have anough time to write the code for touchpad's gpu so basicly right now cpu does all gpu tasks.
Yeah I want GS 10.1 too but I will wait and see if hp fixes touchpad first because I want something different from ios and android.
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It's a single core CPU and has the weight and dimensions of the iPad 1.... No Netflix, kindle reader, and Skype on it sucks... It's also more expensive... Honestly, what does it have going for it? I'd love for webOS to take off, but it just keeps lagging behind by about 9 months...

Still a Buyable Device

So NewEgg has a deal on the Galaxy tab currently (30 dollars off plus 50 dollar gift card) and was wondering if it is still something worth buying. Considering the progress made with HC as is, I can only expect it to get better if/when Google releases source.
For the price, is it still something you would buy today?

I just bought mine a couple of weeks ago and have no complaints. It gets used way more than my Asus Transformer does. I love the 7" screen, perfect size for me.

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I just bought mine a couple of weeks ago and have no complaints. It gets used way more than my Asus Transformer does. I love the 7" screen, perfect size for me.
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Was looking at the transformer too. May I ask why? Is it too big?

Exactly. Try reading a book with a 10" device always seem to need two hands. Typing with both thumbs on the Tab vs finger pecking on the transformer. The size of the 7" is perfect for me.
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solarpolitiks said:
So NewEgg has a deal on the Galaxy tab currently (30 dollars off plus 50 dollar gift card) and was wondering if it is still something worth buying. Considering the progress made with HC as is, I can only expect it to get better if/when Google releases source.
For the price, is it still something you would buy today?
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I'm still looking to get one. Which version is on sale?
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its worth buying if you can get a deal.
As mentioned above 7" is a major bonus. By implication though it means you really want 3G as well. When I was contracting (and hence moving around, taking a lot of different public transport routes etc.) it was an awesome travel companion. It also makes it a great ereader in a pinch.
Custom ROM it and performance is pretty good, esp. as Samsung's browser is hardware accelerated.
If its going to be sitting on your coffee table w/ wifi though, or the price is comparable to a 'current' honeycomb Tegra 2 10" slab, I'd go honeycomb/dual core. There's not much of an upgrade path for it, honeycomb is going to be an unofficial port (if at all?)
I got mine at a knockdown price and really like it. However I still wouldn't have paid RRP for it (by the same token I'm not paying RRP for transformer etc. or even ipad so duh)

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its worth buying if you can get a deal.
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Agreed... pretty easy to find on ebay or CL for $250 or less... picking up another one tomorrow for $200... Almost as good a deal as the HP TP and a lot more clarity about its future, apps, upgradability, etc.

It's still a great device. Is it the newest and latest? Nope. Will it run tons of great apps and be a solid performer for most of your uses? Sure! Now is also the time to snap up cheap discounted cases and other accessories for the 7".
I flashed the Overcome ROM on mine after I was tired of waiting on T-Mobile for the 2.3 update. That's a great ROM. Super battery life, video calling (with FFC working great) via Google Talk, excellent ebook reader, calls over Google Voice with Groove IP, etc etc.
I say this even though I also have the Galaxy 10.1. That's for lazy home use. I can take the 7" with me just about everywhere.

burhanistan said:
I say this even though I also have the Galaxy 10.1. That's for lazy home use. I can take the 7" with me just about everywhere.
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funny, I have the same mindset/usage pattern between my Galaxy Tab and my iPad...

I been hearing great things about the SGS2 so I set aside the cash for it and yesterday went to get it but came back without making the purchase.
When I held it in my hands I just couldnt figure out how the puny screen could be any better than my SGT. Battery life is similar, I can run similar or same applications and both can do depending on what I install from the market. With the custom ROMs my SGT OS is probably higher version, less buggy and smoother than what I would get on the SGS2. Yea there might be some new high tech capabilities but do I need it. Most likely not and at this time don't even know what they are.
So I gave up the idea of going smaller than the 7". Quite a while back I kicked the idea of going bigger than 7". I can still put my SGT in my back pocket or my jacket breast pocket and cary it with me anywhere. Try doing that with anything biger than 7".
For me there is absolutely no good reason to go for anything else for a while.

Yep, still worth buying.
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Got mine yesterday for $180.00. Its a Verizon model but with no contract. I've already rooted it and currently looking for a good custom rom
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manfly9884 said:
Got mine yesterday for $180.00. Its a Verizon model but with no contract. I've already rooted it and currently looking for a good custom rom
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New or used?
I'm looking at buying another used one for $200CDN for my GF. She prefers the Galaxy Tab over the Transformer as well.
I'm thinking about buying 3 of these for the office because of the portability. It would make a great tool for our QC department.

Definitely worth buying. Look at my signature of what I have had and look at which tab is still standing. The 7" form factor is the best. Not to mention this thing plays any video I've thrown at it. Such was not the case for the others tabs.
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MagicMan3 said:
New or used?
I'm looking at buying another used one for $200CDN for my GF. She prefers the Galaxy Tab over the Transformer as well.
I'm thinking about buying 3 of these for the office because of the portability. It would make a great tool for our QC department.
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Floor model from Brandsmart.

It seems that we are all thinking the same.
Its great product, and still worth of buying if you can find it for the right price.

manfly9884 said:
Got mine yesterday for $180.00. Its a Verizon model but with no contract. I've already rooted it and currently looking for a good custom rom
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you cant go wrong with the latest release from Overcome Team. I cant think of any further improvements they could come up with but I am quite sure they will.

MutantWizard said:
you cant go wrong with the latest release from Overcome Team. I cant think of any further improvements they could come up with but I am quite sure they will.
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Isn't this rom for gsm only tablets?

Yup
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Or it can be bought from me.
Shameless plug for my thread in the marketplace.

Considering a tablet, want suggestions!

Hey guys, so tomorrow is my birthday and my grandparents said they'd be willing to buy me a tablet. Thing is, I don't know which tablet I want. I'm highly considering the Galaxy Tab 10.1 since I love Touchwiz UX, and looking at the reviews makes me even more confident. However, I'm not sure if I should wait a big longer for tablets to get quad-core, and if that would affect gaming for me in the near future. (Like for example, newer 3D games would be hard to run since I don't have quad-core).
Any ideas?
Thanks!

I still think the ASUS Transformer is tops with the dock. AND they have UX ported.
However the Galaxy Tab(s) are going to get good development. But hell so does the Transformer.
I would say wait for Kal-El. But they keep pushing it back.

Well, I'm actually not planning on rooting it only because its a gift and I have my phone to mess around with so I don't really care for that. I know what you mean though about kal-el. I want to wait for it, but its not certain when it will come out or anything and its hard to keep up with the latest and greatest. Thanks though, I'm curious to hear others suggestions
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Ask for a giftcard. Wait for windows 8

Or the nexus prime. >5" is a tablet for my standards
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I would wait to see ICS and how quickly it is adopted on the current gen tablets. If Samsung is as bad as updating the Tabs as they were the original US Galaxy line.. Ugh. Plus, yeah, there is Kal-el a you mentioned already.
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I highly recommend ipad. As of right now none other tablet works like ipad. I bought touchpad during fire sale but I sold it recently because it didn't do better than my phone or laptop.
This means that my touchpad wasn't worth while to bring to work, as it lacked note taking ability nor presenting ability. I bet if u buy galaxy for 500$, you will spend most of time trying to tinker it to do what you intended to but ultimately gets frustrated and sell it.
Also most of the productivity apps are fine tuned for ipad.
However if you are going to use tablet for media consumption, get kindle fire. It has vast library of amazon goodness. But it lacks mic and ffc which makes skype unusable.
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If you don't plan on rooting I'd say the Galaxy Tab 10.1, I've messed around with it and it feels a lot more natural to use and the screen is absolutely gorgeous. But that's me, I want to have the tablet experience and after comparing and contrasting the Galaxy Tab is something I'm looking at. I was trying to get a TouchPad before people panicked but I got screwed haha.

weav4444 said:
Ask for a giftcard. Wait for windows 8
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Don't worry I am. And nah, I'd rather stick with android.
bagelicious said:
I would wait to see ICS and how quickly it is adopted on the current gen tablets. If Samsung is as bad as updating the Tabs as they were the original US Galaxy line.. Ugh. Plus, yeah, there is Kal-el a you mentioned already.
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Well, the galaxy tab was good at updating to 3.2 pretty quickly. And since it's their only big tablet (other than the different sizes), it's going to get updated more frequently than the epic most likely (especially since I'm getting the wifi version, so no worries about getting the OTA from Sprint). As much as I want to wait for kal-el, I think I'm just gonna go with the galaxy tab 10.1. Kal-el is keep getting pushed back, and for all I know it won't come out for another 4-5 months. Sure I may miss out on some games, but technology moves fast these days. I guess you gotta find a point and stick with it for a while.
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I highly recommend ipad. As of right now none other tablet works like ipad. I bought touchpad during fire sale but I sold it recently because it didn't do better than my phone or laptop.
This means that my touchpad wasn't worth while to bring to work, as it lacked note taking ability nor presenting ability. I bet if u buy galaxy for 500$, you will spend most of time trying to tinker it to do what you intended to but ultimately gets frustrated and sell it.
Also most of the productivity apps are fine tuned for ipad.
However if you are going to use tablet for media consumption, get kindle fire. It has vast library of amazon goodness. But it lacks mic and ffc which makes skype unusable.
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I know what you mean. I've definitely considered the iPad. It's great for gaming, productivity, almost everything. Jailbreaking is harmless and I never have to worry about battery life. But the beauty of Android that I love that it's constantly growing. Not just in rom development, but in the marketplace and system as a whole. I feel like everyday I can wake up and see a new app for Android or a new leak of the latest build. Besides, I love the customizability and Touchwiz UX. And I think I'll be satisfied with it. I have my phone for hacking and everything, so I don't think I'll get too many urges to go and break my tablet.
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If you don't plan on rooting I'd say the Galaxy Tab 10.1, I've messed around with it and it feels a lot more natural to use and the screen is absolutely gorgeous. But that's me, I want to have the tablet experience and after comparing and contrasting the Galaxy Tab is something I'm looking at. I was trying to get a TouchPad before people panicked but I got screwed haha.
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Well, now I know I'm making the right decision. I hope you're right

Get the 10.1
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Get Gtab and put on In Paris and Pershoot's kernel. Fun times.

The Root said:
Get Gtab and put on In Paris and Pershoot's kernel. Fun times.
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He's not going to root it, as it's a gift.

If you're going for space try the Archos 501586 7o. 250GB HDD!
Lack of dual core and honeycomb being the drawbacks

darkierawr said:
If you're going for space try the Archos 501586 7o. 250GB HDD!
Lack of dual core and honeycomb being the drawbacks
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Dang!! But eh, not worth it.
Since it's wifi-only, I'm gonna have music only streamed so no space there. Other than that, it's just apps and movies and movies I can delete if necessary.

Go iPad. You wont regret it. Especially if you already use iTunes.
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Go iPad. You wont regret it. Especially if you already use iTunes.
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Nah, I think I've made up my mind. I mean, I know what you're saying. If I were to get an iPad, there would be nothing wrong with it and I'd have no complaints. But on that same note, I would also end out regretting not buying the galaxy tab 10.1 since I didn't give it a chance. I mean, idk. I want a galaxy tab 10.1, but others say iPad. What's bad about the tab 10.1?

I've heard nothing but good things from both really.

Well, now I'm just debating and my head's hurting a lot lol. I love Android and Touchwiz UX, but the iPad also offers well-known battery life, a variety of apps, and constant updates.
Ugh, my head has never hurt so much lol. I can't decide

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Well, now I'm just debating and my head's hurting a lot lol. I love Android and Touchwiz UX, but the iPad also offers well-known battery life, a variety of apps, and constant updates.
Ugh, my head has never hurt so much lol. I can't decide
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Let me put it to you like this - You didnt like the CM7 rom even tho you couldnt wait to get it, so just go with what you know and save yourself the headache.

Wait till next year something better will come out.
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