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POLL: Gingerbread Speculation

This is my first Motorola phone and I actually hopped to ATT for the Atrix and so far, I really dont have anything bad to say.
Now that my intro is done... anyone have any insight when MOTO/ATT will push Gingerbread to the Atrix?
I'm hoping summer... what does everyone else think?
edit: when I poll for winter, its winter at the end of this year, not right now....

So far we're speculating for fall...
Hopefully with the attention that MOTO has with the Atrix and the Xoom, maybe they'll hire some extra engineers to push something by summer...

look at Milestone, they still on 2.1.
so I guess we won't get 2.3 until 2012

I really hope they upgrade directly to Ice Cream in winter, skipping Gingerbread. Ah well, hope springs eternal, as they say...

Crap in one hand and wait on gingerbread in the other, see which one gets full first.
It is bs the phone should not have been released without gingerbread.

They are already developing ginger bread. Look in dev forum. Someone had a dev dump if ginger bread at some point
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gingerbread is pointless.
ice cream is what we need. I rather have them skip gingerbread and work straight onto ice cream.

ronan_zj said:
look at Milestone, they still on 2.1.
so I guess we won't get 2.3 until 2012
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Exactly. Knowing Motorola, probably never

they promised that 1080 recording update didnt they? A while back. Lets see what happens ey

Goodluck
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Goodluck
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Troll............

gstar_raw said:
Exactly. Knowing Motorola, probably never
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Actually Motorola are known to update their flagship phones. The milestone never for updated because it was not one. The Droid x was released with 2.1, updates to 2.2 and will be getting 2.3 soon.
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Since the Atrix is a flagship dual-core, I think we'lll see it sooner rather than later. Especially since we have a Gingerbread dump in the dev forum already... that's some nice signs for a spring/summer update.
Its really interesting seeing the wide range of dates when people think we'll get it.

I would really like to see the update soon, but it doesn't look likely. It is more likely I will end up with the Galaxy S2 / iphone 5 or some new HTC phone before we see an update.

IceCream Sandwich... Is it coming to Desire HD ?

Hi All,
With news humming around that IceCream Sandwich will be out soon ( October Maybe ) Do you think that we will see official update from HTC to Desire HD or they will continue ignoring Desire HD owners and we will go for custom ROM's from developers ??
Images for IceCream Sandwich are already leaked out...
http://cdn.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/postimages/9274/ics_leak1.jpg
http://cdn.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/postimages/9274/ics_leak2.jpg
http://cdn.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/postimages/9274/ics_leak3.jpg
http://cdn.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/postimages/9274/ics_leak4.jpg

I don't think that we will get 2.4 officially, but I know that the sensation will get it 100%, and the great devs will bring it to us! that's my point of view.
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Offical update? Unlikely, especially if the DHD does not meet the hardware requirements.
or they will continue ignoring Desire HD owners
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I'm curious. How did HTC ignore DHD owners? We have the latest updates, after all.

Don't get how the desire hd doesn't have the right specs, if its better than the Nexus S. Unless its the dedicated gpu that it needs.
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I'm curious. How did HTC ignore DHD owners? We have the latest updates, after all.
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Official Sense 3.0 Update , I don't know how HTC claims that Desire HD doesn't fit with requirements to run Sense 3.0 while XDA developers brings Full Functional Sense 3.0 to Desire HD in thier ROM's !!!!
Most rumors says that Ice-cream doesn't need hardware changes and it will fit in old devices and comparing Desire HD to Nexus S i think Desire HD is better in Ram and almost equal processor performance !!!!!

Good point about Sense 3.0.
Anyways, I hope there will be support, but it might be too much to ask that we will get any the day ICS comes out. We may be waiting for for some time.

i dont think so................they have already ignored us in updating to sense 3..........................most probably.....officially we wont get it.........
but i am damn sure that XDA will find a way..............

In their official statement i've read at endgadget, "...ice cream sandwich is expected to be backward compatible, universal upgrade that will standardize the Android platform." I forgot where the links are.
8penned from my blazing fast DHD

Keep in mind that Sense 3.0 is HTC's UI on top of Android Gingerbread OS. The new Sense 3.0 devices have more or less the same Gingerbread beneath.
Even if we think Sense 3.0 works okay in ports on the DHD it might not meet HTC's "quality standards" regarding smoothness and stability for example, on a phone that hasn't got the hardware it was meant for. This I think is the reason why we haven't got a Sense 3.0 (yet). Another reason could be that new devices need something special to make people upgrade their old phones and not just update them. HTC might just be holding back the update until they've sold enough new phones.
I'm not saying that I'm sure we'll get Ice Cream but there's a difference in releasing a whole new OS instead of just a UI. A new OS brings much more important and necessary changes (eg security fixes and new features) than a UI. AFAIK Ice Cream will be designed to work even on phones that aren't cutting edge.
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I don't think that it will, officially anyway.
The DHD went from Froyo to Gingerbread, where as i think the Sensation will go from Gingerbread to IceCream Sandwich.

sromer said:
I don't think that it will, officially anyway.
The DHD went from Froyo to Gingerbread, where as i think the Sensation will go from Gingerbread to IceCream Sandwich.
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I agree that. More than a 2 official updates of Android ver. on device that it`s not branded by google (Nexus) it`s not for hope.. but there will be many cust. roms based on Icecream for sure

but i think there wont be any ARHD rom based on ice cream sandwich........
and that makes me sad ...........

If you want icecream sandwich version buy latest phone... Market strategy
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kuklux said:
If you want icecream sandwich version buy latest phone... Market strategy
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This is the problem with Android devices and what gives iPhone more popularity in some markets that Apple support for their devices
3Gs is more than 2 years old and still get support with new iOs till now so this is a good point for it but with Android it's always up to developers community
Icecream Sandwich meant to all devices and tablets so i think that all devices that meet minimum requirements should get it cuz this is the first Android version that will be compatible with both Tablets and Mobiles also with support for new languages like Arabic as example and have better enhancements in it's core so i think that we should get it

kuklux said:
If you want icecream sandwich version buy latest phone... Market strategy
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sony ericson-->nokia 5110--->nokia 3210--->nokia 3350-->nokia 6600-->nokia 6630--->nokia n70--->O2 xda mini II--->iphone 2g-->HTC legend--->HTC Desire HD...............
i know one more fone after DHD wont be that tough for ya..............

I agree also supposed to be able to work on all 2.2 and up
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if they arent releasing officially.........
.i want the world to be end by december 2011.....

I think the last update for our dhd is 2.3.3 thats the final and major update some other phone like samsung tab still getting 2.3.3 at the moment so i think this is our last update... Thats why it is open source and its up to developer to make run to our dhd...
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How about the Desire that went from 2.1 to 2.2 to 2.3?
So maybe if we're lucky!

I am honestly not too concerned. As others have stated ports will most probably arrive after the release. And I would honestly rather use a ROM cooked up by one of the talented devs here than the official HTC crew. So far their results have underwhelmed me.
They do however make quality phones that feel good to hold in your hand, and that is what I buy them for. The rest I fix myself. =P
kuklux said:
If you want icecream sandwich version buy latest phone... Market strategy
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Also this. It's a shame, a real shame. But I suppose if they did not do it this way and kept people interested somehow, they would stop selling phones. I do find it silly though that with the crazy specifications on new phones that a phone like the DHD which I consider a decent phone will be left in the dirt a lot sooner than I had imagined.

ICS and i9000 - a little history

I'm not going to ask if Samsung would relase ICS for i9000. I'll just refresh my memory with a little bit of history.
December 6th 2010 - SDK 2.3
December 17th 2010 - The source code 2.3
February 13th 2011 - SGS2 announced
February 25th 2011 - 2.3 OTA for N1 and NS
April 16th 2011 - 2.3 "OTA" for SGS1 (5+ months after 2.3 SDK came out).
So, if the history repeats itself, we won't get 4.0 before April of 2012th, if ever. More possible scenario would be SGS2 is getting 4.0 in April, and SGS1 stays on 2.3 due to "memory problems".
Anyone remembers 1st Samsung Galaxy (i7500?). It received 1.6 six months after Donut SDK came out and stayed on 1.6 due to memory problems ...
I'll be buying SGS2 HD LTE soon anyway.. can't resist

I to do not think we'll get it from Samsung but do hope CM hooks us up with CM9 soon after source code is out.
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Nexus S is getting ICS, and there have been reports that even the NEXUS 1 will get it too.
Let's keep in mind that the Galaxy S has basically the same specs as the Nexus S. It's pretty much a layup to make a Galaxy S version if they are going to make a Nexus S version...
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ccrows said:
Nexus S is getting ICS, and there have been reports that even the NEXUS 1 will get it too.
Let's keep in mind that the Galaxy S has basically the same specs as the Nexus S. It's pretty much a layup to make a Galaxy S version if they are going to make a Nexus S version...
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Yeah, but don't forget Samsung can fool us with their launcher that "will probably require more RAM than available", just like Sense needed to much RAM on HTC Desire and Desire never got official 2.3, although Nexus One will probably go even to 4.0.
Btw. Nexus S received official 2.3 OTA the same day as N1, on 23 February 2011, so we can expect CM8 much before that, I'm just hoping for GPU enabled browser in ICS, only thing that keeps me from CM7 now.

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Fremen567 said:
I to do not think we'll get it from Samsung but do hope CM hooks us up with CM9 soon after source code is out.
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well said
i'd not expect much from Samsung, they did however step up a lot on their customer facing upgrades and source codes
so chances are we'll see it from CM9 before we see the official one from Samsung

With google and samsung working together dont you think they will have all ready got ics working on nexus s and may be the galaxy s so hopefully we might get ics

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1) first gingerbread (leaked) for sgs1 was 28th February 2011 - 2.3.2
2) it is officialy confirmed that i9000 will get an update
3) nexuss=sgs1 -> one more reason that i9000 will get it wo memory problems of any sort
3a)first bulids that infos about was leaked from nexuss
4) galaxy nexus premiere = november = source release confirmed officialy
5) sgs1 update process speeded up (not to mention leaks) but the source codes stays outdated basicly
expect ics leak at february or maybe we get even more lucky
as there already are nexuss builds but just not public
and do not expect anything leaked till galaxy samsung premiere
leaker would get his heaad cut of and even his grand children would have to work for samsung

$omator said:
1) first gingerbread (leaked) for sgs1 was 28th February 2011 - 2.3.2
2) it is officialy confirmed that i9000 will get an update
3) nexuss=sgs1 -> one more reason that i9000 will get it wo memory problems of any sort
3a)first bulids that infos about was leaked from nexuss
4) galaxy nexus premiere = november = source release confirmed officialy
5) sgs1 update process speeded up (not to mention leaks) but the source codes stays outdated basicly
expect ics leak at february or maybe we get even more lucky
as there already are nexuss builds but just not public
and do not expect anything leaked till galaxy samsung premiere
leaker would get his heaad cut of and even his grand children would have to work for samsung
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2) url please
3) nexus means google support, and google must support device that came a year ago. Samsung came out with 10 android phones in the meantime that everyone is gonna ask for ics...
sgs2 will get a leak in february, and sgs1 prolly in april if ever...

http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...-S-Nexus-S-and-Galaxy-S-II-to-Android-4-0-ICS

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http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...-S-Nexus-S-and-Galaxy-S-II-to-Android-4-0-ICS
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any relevant sources? that news is also wishfull thinking...

Right, I have never seen any official news confirming this. One more time we are waiting...
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Galaid said:
just like Sense needed to much RAM on HTC Desire and Desire never got official 2.3, although Nexus One will probably go even to 4.0.
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Desire got 2.3 officially this summer..

Galaid said:
Yeah, but don't forget Samsung can fool us with their launcher that "will probably require more RAM than available", just like Sense needed to much RAM on HTC Desire and Desire never got official 2.3, although Nexus One will probably go even to 4.0.
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As i know there wasnt problem with RAM (desire has full 512MB) but with ROM, because new sense was too big for desire memory, thats why desire got old sense. If nexus s gets ICS and sgs dont, i will never ever buy another android phone (i had four of them, and i've been ****ed every time from htc and samsung), because i'm not money printing machine to buy new phone every year if i want to use new upgraded OS.
Do you realize that sgs is "old" as iPhone 4 and as you can see iPhone 4 already got iOS5 (even 3GS got iOS5 and that **** is older than nexus one) and will get iOS6, and i must to spend another 550-600 euros to buy new phone that will be abandoned after one year. Some will say that sgs dont have enough memory but i dont give a fu.k for that, they need to find a way to make things work, because apple can.

if SGS will dont get a ICS, I will be very sad, bcz Desire HD will get it... damn

There is no reason for SGS not to get it if Nexus S is getting it. It's same freaking phone for most part. Unless Samsung desides to f... us on this one.
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well, Nexus S hasn't got the official ICS yet
but there is already a working stable ICS port
so, if DEV were able to port the ICS to the Nexus S
they can definitely do the same for the SGS1
just get a good gang of DEVs to start cracking on it, it really just depends how motivated or not are the DEVs using SGS1

isc theme port i think mostly, not much can be doune wo aosp sources thats why cm guys are holding for that source release

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well, Nexus S hasn't got the official ICS yet
but there is already a working stable ICS port
so, if DEV were able to port the ICS to the Nexus S
they can definitely do the same for the SGS1
just get a good gang of DEVs to start cracking on it, it really just depends how motivated or not are the DEVs using SGS1
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I hate ports, cm7 still isnt good enough as stock samsung gb (used it few times), ok its faster but thats that, only benefit. I gave money to samsung not to devs (dont want to be disrespectfull) in turn i expect software updates. Many people satisfies with ports but we need to demand from oems to update our expencive phones.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318526
Ics port fully working
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telep said:
I hate ports, cm7 still isnt good enough as stock samsung gb (used it few times), ok its faster but thats that, only benefit. I gave money to samsung not to devs (dont want to be disrespectfull) in turn i expect software updates. Many people satisfies with ports but we need to demand from oems to update our expencive phones.
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If you're all about stock than why hang around here on xda?
Pozdrav

Ics

Would like to see if anyone has a good working port for ics
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As soon as someone has a working port of ICS, I'd imagine it would be the busiest thread in the development sub-forum. So keep an eye out there.
-Nipqer

Settle down. Source code isn't even out yet. And that will probably be November 17 at the earliest since that is the release date of the European Galaxy Nexus. Traditionally, code had been released a couple weeks after a nexus phone. Expect early December.
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Love the write-up posted here...
http://www.willowtreeapps.com/blog/...s-on-ice-cream-sandwich-and-the-galaxy-nexus/

Thank you just excited for the rom
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Of how much I want to see ICS on my beloved G2.. it seems the only way we'll see ICS on the G2 is through the great devs working on a port, because unfortunately according to PC World HERE HTC has the list of phones that will be getting ICS starting next year, and the G2 is no where in the line-up on getting it.
Oh well.. I was thinking about upgrading my phone to a Galaxy Nexus (32gb version).

lawalty said:
Of how much I want to see ICS on my beloved G2.. it seems the only way we'll see ICS on the G2 is through the great devs working on a port, because unfortunately according to PC World HERE HTC has the list of phones that will be getting ICS starting next year, and the G2 is no where in the line-up on getting it.
Oh well.. I was thinking about upgrading my phone to a Galaxy Nexus (32gb version).
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Why would you care if HTC is going to build 4.0 for your phone? HTC builds **SUCK**. They are polluted with a whole bunch of garbage the *looks* like AOSP, but actually is NOT. The HTC VISION is hacked more thoroughly than any other android phone available. It will NOT be a big deal to build a proper AOSP for it.

Just wait for cm 9 and its variants. The nightlies even now are getting closer to ics.
I love a new release as much as the next guy, but I kinda wish the buzz was over. I can't stop trying to give my phone an ice cream feel. And it probably only does a couple things dif. than gingerbread.
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lawalty said:
Of how much I want to see ICS on my beloved G2.. it seems the only way we'll see ICS on the G2 is through the great devs working on a port, because unfortunately according to PC World HERE HTC has the list of phones that will be getting ICS starting next year, and the G2 is no where in the line-up on getting it.
Oh well.. I was thinking about upgrading my phone to a Galaxy Nexus (32gb version).
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Well did you honestly expect HTC to upgrade our phone to ICS officially? lol...
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Why would you care if HTC is going to build 4.0 for your phone? HTC builds **SUCK**. They are polluted with a whole bunch of garbage the *looks* like AOSP, but actually is NOT. The HTC VISION is hacked more thoroughly than any other android phone available. It will NOT be a big deal to build a proper AOSP for it.
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Precisely.

lawalty said:
Of how much I want to see ICS on my beloved G2.. it seems the only way we'll see ICS on the G2 is through the great devs working on a port, because unfortunately according to PC World HERE HTC has the list of phones that will be getting ICS starting next year, and the G2 is no where in the line-up on getting it.
Oh well.. I was thinking about upgrading my phone to a Galaxy Nexus (32gb version).
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I find it funny that many news sites either don't mention it, or repeating it wrong.
HTC was speaking of a first wave.
There is a second wave of phones that will get ICS.
Second wave of phones are not announced until now.
Incredible S, Desire S, Desire HD and Desire Z have very good chances to be on this second list.

Can somebody explain why ICS is so much better than what I have right now? Just wondering?....

Gpu acceleration is the main reason I want it...

[Poll}Android JB 4.1 for the Note, Possible for the Note

Hello! I thought I'd start this thread just to see what you guys think about the current devices getting 4.1.
It doesn't look like Samsung have been pushing ICS too hard after its initial update. Could it be possible that they're working on 4.1? It looks like hardware isn't an issue .

4.1 will come right with the note 2. And maybe with enough outcry of the comunity we will get it too but defenetly after the note 2 release. Thats how it's been in the past....

Tweets from SamMobile:
- Android 4.1 for Galaxy SIII #sgs3 Q3 2012.
- No information about Android 4.1 for SII and Note yet. Both devices will see Android 4.0.4.
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When you talk about the Note, they need to solve brick bug problems and then maybe think about the latest version of Android. If you look when the ICS update arrived, I wouldn't expect Jelly Bean soon. Even if it comes, it will be crippled by the Touch Wiz.
I guess that CM9 will pack all those goodies from JB 4.1.

Even if it doesn't get an official 4.1, the note will almost guaranteed get cm10. Nice they are at least giving us 4.0.4 though.
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Don't want samsung to give us the Jelly beans. I am sure our developers like CM will surely get us one asap. Awaiting for the next release of CM10

What is everyone worrying about? This is XDA! Of course it will
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Even if it doesn't get an official 4.1, the note will almost guaranteed get cm10. Nice they are at least giving us 4.0.4 though.
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That will be CM9.1 not 10. Android 5 will be CM10.
But yeah, i don't care if we'll get it official from Samsung or not. As long as our developers get it running on the Note, i'm all good.

Upgrade life cycle for Samsung is usually 18 months. The note was released in November 2011.
Jelly bean is being released to developers and operators in mid july, with first handsets and tablet (asus nexus 7) for release around October/November.
I reckon we'll get it as our final update. Pretty certain galaxy s2 is nearing the end of its update cycle around now.
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More than possible in my opinion
Who else updates firmwares as much as samsung?
The note was one of the first device to have ice. Samsung do work.
But i guess haters are just going to complain.
2.1 2.2 2.3 2.3value pack updated galaxy s
Was cursed it didnt get ics.
Besides what is the point of complaining on the first day of its release when previous sold nexus phones didnt even get them
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kyrirhcp said:
What is everyone worrying about? This is XDA! Of course it will
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1+ EXACTLY!

LordManhattan said:
That will be CM9.1 not 10. Android 5 will be CM10.
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EVERY named android update has gotten a +1 CM number. Many of which are .1 updates.
It would be VERY odd if JB was not CM10, and against everything we have seen in the past.

ICS to Jellybean
If the kernel requirements is the same as ICS then Jellybean port should be quick and easy.

Cool! I am keeping up the hope with Samsung. The device has been out for less than a year, I really hope it gets updated officially.

LordManhattan said:
That will be CM9.1 not 10. Android 5 will be CM10.
But yeah, i don't care if we'll get it official from Samsung or not. As long as our developers get it running on the Note, i'm all good.
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Eclair was cm5, froyo was cm6, gb was cm7 and the canned honeycomb cm version was 8. So no it will be 10.
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Yep , going to be an exciting 2013/2014 !

zoidster said:
Yep , going to be an exciting 2013/2014 !
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You're jumping ahead a little! I'd still like to see what's going to happen this year in the mobile world! I am actually interested in seeing what the next nexus device is going to have as specs. Regardless anything less than 5 inches is a waste.
-Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note.

I think i will get a Note 2 as soon as it hits the market
But before that time is here we will get custom roms that will give our note 4.1.

Hey guys Jelly bean rom leaked for G nex.source GSMarena
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Nelthalin said:
I think i will get a Note 2 as soon as it hits the market
But before that time is here we will get custom roms that will give our note 4.1.
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no more galaxy notes for me or any other OEM device..next device will be a nexus...

I really think that Galaxy Note will get 4.1
Galaxy S came with Android OS, v2.1 (Eclair) and got updates until 2.3