Hey!
I was surfing on the net using my new tytn, after an hour it occured to me that, how do I know that the phone is using my wlan to connect and not the 3g line?? If it was using the 3g line I will get e hefty bill next month... IS there anyway to see that?
Very worried
If it was using 3G data then you'd see the little 3G symbol at the top of the today screen. Did you turn on Wi-Fi to use it? If so then it probably used it rather than the 3G data.
is there anyway or any application that is out there that will let you browse the web and talk om the phone at the same time?
If you have GSM then you can do that without any special app. If you have CDMA then you can't do that unless you're connected via wifi.
Yup wifi and phone works really well LOL...
you can do this with t mobile???? I know att just came out with this on their network i dont believe this is possible with t mobile
bokechukwu1 said:
you can do this with t mobile???? I know att just came out with this on their network i dont believe this is possible with t mobile
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Just came out? AFAIK 3G on AT&T's network thats one of the benefits. I believe all 3G smartphones that had web browsing had voice capabilities at the same time... that's part of what 3G on a GSM network creates.
You can talk and surf in AT&T 3G network for sure. I am not sure if it works on T-mobile though. I would think it should, as it looks like it depends on technology and not the network itself!
bokechukwu1 said:
you can do this with t mobile???? I know att just came out with this on their network i dont believe this is possible with t mobile
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i just tested this the other day after watching a commercial asking if my phone and carrier could do it. answer....yes! i called my wife, put the phone on speaker phone, opened opera and browsed, opened google maps and checked out some street view and did a little binging. worked great all the while talking on speaker phone in the background.
edit: i was on a 3g connection.
jlavoie said:
i just tested this the other day after watching a commercial asking if my phone and carrier could do it. answer....yes! i called my wife, put the phone on speaker phone, opened opera and browsed, opened google maps and checked out some street view and did a little binging. worked great all the while talking on speaker phone in the background.
edit: i was on a 3g connection.
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So I guess AT&T is full of crap! Hmmm whats new!!!LOL
Yea you can do this only with 3G connection. Cuz you are using E to talk I would assume! And 3G for data...
this is only possible using a GSM network(at&t, t-mobile...etc) without using wifi.
3g makes no difference in this situation.Verizon & Sprint run on CDMA networks and is not possible to "talk & surf" at the same time
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So I guess AT&T is full of crap! Hmmm whats new!!!LOL
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Well the commercial is a response commercial to Verizon's ads... so at least in this case they aren't full of crap. Verizon's 3G network is based on EV-DO Rev A. You get the speeds of a 3G GSM connection but you don't get the simul voice/data functionality.
joeyc1123 said:
this is only possible using a GSM network(at&t, t-mobile...etc) without using wifi.
3g makes no difference in this situation.Verizon & Sprint run on CDMA networks and is not possible to "talk & surf" at the same time
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AT&T does not support browse/talk on its Edge network. So if your phone steps down to an Edge connection you lose that ability. AFAIK Edge CAN support the functionality its just that AT&T doesn't support it.
I will check on verizon when I get a chance, but if you look in the Kaiser forum, I showed everyone there in a thread how to get this functionality b'c the carriers (US) usually strip it out to preserve bandwidth. It has to do with the RIL settings in your provisioning xml. beeen a few years, but it is there if you want to dig. Look in kaiser rom development. Also, it has to be cooked in. the provisioning registry changes will always revert back to OEM settings if not cooked in.
It is not a matter of carrier but a matter of technology. Edge and 3G are akin to narrowband and broadband for landlines. Just like you can't talk and surf the web and talk on the phone on dialup but can on DSL. It's simply a matter of bandwidth.
To explain this in a more simple matter, 3g is essentially a CDMA connection. Being that CDMA carriers use said transmission for voice, they cannot use data and voice simultaneously. However, with t-mobile and at&t, voice is transmitted over the GSM radio and a 2nd radio is present which carries the CDMA 3g technology. If said GSM device looses that 3g service and falls back to edge or gprs, the simultaneous voice and data becomes inoperable. The key part to this is that a 2nd radio transmission takes place to allow the simultaneous transmission of both services. I have often wondered, however, why other carriers like sprint and Verizon don't incorporate a 2nd radio in their devices to simultaneously connect two CDMA transmissions similar to how a TIVO/DVR box works with cable/satellite services to allow the viewing of one channel while recording another. This functionality would allow them to compete with the GSM carriers.
cdma gsm
I know that when I used to work for ATTWS (long time ago), they were freaking out about the new carriers rolling in with CDMA (some with hybrid AMPS and D-AMPS 850 mhz spectrum) because, in theory CDMA should wax TDMA's call load significantly. TDMA, at that time could only hold 3 calls per channel. So about (here comes a geeky number) every 6.67 ms the calls on the channel would switch functions. Only one could TX, one could RX, and the other was Idle.... this was all transparent to the caller of course.. CDMA rolls around with the theory that becasue it's data piggy backed on the channel, it would increase their call handling ability 10 fold. Unfortunately theory didn't work out to real work practicality b/c the new PCS CDMA carriers really had about the same call capacity as everyone else.
Now, I've always touted VZW speeds here in my market bc TMO didn't even have 3g here till like 6 months to a year ago.. .and AT&T's 3G was laugable here in Jacksonville...might as well have kept the E or G icons on the phone for as slow as things ran.... HSDPA and UMTS could put a cramp on VZWs claim to speed...as long as they can get it consistent nationwide... I'd be tempted to leave for the right data speeds.....but for now, I'm in love with my overpriced VZW plan because of the coverage, quality, and speed..... who knows what tomorrow will bring.
Sorry for the long post, but it takes a bit to explain it.. (even though most of you know it.)
Thanks,
Nate
its working for me i'm on the phone talking while surfing now i have been doing it for about 30 minutes with no disconnection
gfloyd45 said:
its working for me i'm on the phone talking while surfing now i have been doing it for about 30 minutes with no disconnection
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I can only do talk and surf if I have wifi on.....I cant do it otherwise Do you have to do anything special to get the talk and surf to work on GSM on ATT?
Surf and talk on Att !?
bsg411 said:
I can only do talk and surf if I have wifi on.....I cant do it otherwise Do you have to do anything special to get the talk and surf to work on GSM on ATT?
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Can anybody do this without being on wifi ?
bsg411 said:
I can only do talk and surf if I have wifi on.....I cant do it otherwise Do you have to do anything special to get the talk and surf to work on GSM on ATT?
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When you say it doesn't work for you, does your notification bar show 3G-or-H or does it show E? It won't work if it's E.
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When you say it doesn't work for you, does your notification bar show 3G-or-H or does it show E? It won't work if it's E.
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Yes my phone shows H when I'm trying to surf and talk. I think since I have a cooked rom, it may have altered my stock internet configuration and proxy settings or something and now it doesnt work.....idunno......thats my guess. Hoping one of you guys have the answer.
Thats definitely the problem make sure proxy is off and your connections setting are going to the MEdiaNet server and that should fix it.
Hey there, I swear I though we could have simultaneous voice and data with the Nexus One on T-Mobile USA yet it's not working for me.
Anyone else? Let me know if it's working or not...
NOTE: don't be connected to WiFi at the time of testing. Make a phone call, then try to view google maps and move around, or go surf the internet using the browser and report back.
Thanks everyone!
are you sure you are on 3G? EDGE does not support voice and data at the same time.
Ahh, well my phone has been having the issue that a lot of people have been reporting where it flips back and fourth from 3G to EDGE, so perhaps that's why.... I'm testing it right now when knowing it's on 3G.... So it works when I have the 3G icon.
I think my problem is that the phone is locking on EDGE and not swapping to 3G when it has the option to once on a phone call... My phone seems to be swapping from EDGE to 3G just like a lot of people are saying, even when they have other phones with no issues on the same carrier at the same locations.
Thanks for that info! still having the issue of the phone seemingly not wanting to jump to a 3G cell after it jumps to EDGE.
I have TMo tab with att sim. Done everything like flash, carrier unlock, root, modemswitch succesfully. I was just checking what happens when i am watching online stream video or surf web but i when i called from home phone tab is going to voice message, no rings on tab. But with wifi i can surf, watch videos and am able to receive calls. Any solutions?
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tabing said:
I have TMo tab with att sim. Done everything like flash, carrier unlock, root, modemswitch succesfully. I was just checking what happens when i am watching online stream video or surf web but i when i called from home phone tab is going to voice message, no rings on tab. But with wifi i can surf, watch videos and am able to receive calls. Any solutions?
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JL3_Roto-2G
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Roto-JMI-v2
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That's because you can't!
EDGE is 2G, and on 2G you don't get simultaneous voice and data.
If you are connected via 3G, you should be able to do it.
Regards,
Dave
BTW, that T-Mo Tab doesn't support AT&T 3G frequencies normally, and I don't know if it has a soft radio to allow for flashing that kind of support or if it's still a "hard" radio like most phones and devices are.
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BTW, that T-Mo Tab doesn't support AT&T 3G frequencies normally, and I don't know if it has a soft radio to allow for flashing that kind of support or if it's still a "hard" radio like most phones and devices are.
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It is a hardware limitation. T-mo tab=t-mo frequencies and no rom or modem flash or settings can change that. So EDGE will be the fastest cellular speed you can get. And no simultanious data/voice.
Ok I hope someone fix that edge issue. It would have been better that i had bought AT&T tab because of voice and 3G.
...so why did you buy thr t-mo version? This part lost me.
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tabing said:
Ok I hope someone fix that edge issue.
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It isn't an EDGE "issue" because it simply isn't possible under EDGE!
Regards,
Dave
First of all, it IS an issue. Agreed, you can't do both data and voice while on Edge. However, what happens is that if you are surfing on Edge (data) and you receive a call, your data connection drops off and allows the voice connection to take control!
pat123 but i did roto's 2g modem update. Do you know 2g and data works together?
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First of all, it IS an issue. Agreed, you can't do both data and voice while on Edge. However, what happens is that if you are surfing on Edge (data) and you receive a call, your data connection drops off and allows the voice connection to take control!
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Still not an issue, because that is under the carriers control to decide whether or not to prioritise voice or data. If you are on a network that supports NOM1, when an incoming call is received the *network* suspends your data connection to allow your call through. If however, you are on a NOM2 network, this does not happen, and no amount of ROM flashing or tweaking is going to make the slightest difference.
The point is that unless you are on a NOM1 network, there is nothing you can do about it from your phone!
Regards,
Dave
The technical term is network capability. That network is older than android.
Thanks all got it
Whenever I don't have an HSPA+ connection, I cannot load use data like surfing on the internet on Edge and 3G. It tries to constantly load the data. I feel like this has been a problem ever since I got it. Is there a solution? Thanks
Try changing your APN settings to for your carriers
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