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we should all email these guys asking about ram for the titan, to show that there is an interest in this service. Even if you dont plan on haveing it done, it will let those of us who do,get it done faster
that would be awesome! who should i email?
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~unit~HTC_Mogul-906~area~upgrades~action~updateunit.htm
they haven't done ram upgrades for any of the current devices... I think they stopped doing that a few years ago...
hmmm hope not,ive been talking with some chica who works there, over a phone line, and she says they are looking into it...grrr we have 8 of these things at work, and we all have memory issues
I dunno what to tell you, dude... look at any phones that have come out in the last 4 years... they sell accessories, but no ram upgrades for them. There simply hasn't been enough demand to do it anymore, I think.
As for your memory problems... look around the forum to see how others deal with these "problems". With a little bit of memory management, things run perfectly fine. I never get memory errors, haven't had them in my last few htc phones because I've learned my way around the memory thing by now.
Honestly, even if they offered it, I wouldn't pay to have them install new chips in my phone.
Close programs, don't install too many plugins, and if need be, run that oxios program that frees up the file system cache.
I have 101 applications installed in my phone. In internal phone storage available space is 148MB only.My question is what might be decreased 1GB of storage to 148MB. Is it because of so many applications??
Does this effect RAM??
Is 256MB of RAM included in 1GB??
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rajeshmorampudi said:
I have 101 applications installed in my phone. In internal phone storage available space is 148MB only.My question is what might be decreased 1GB of storage to 148MB. Is it because of so many applications??
Does this effect RAM??
Is 256MB of RAM included in 1GB??
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512mb for apps
256mb for ram
128 for graphics
as far as i know this is correct, but correct me if im wrong people
sofir786 said:
512mb for apps
256mb for ram
128 for graphics
as far as i know this is correct, but correct me if im wrong people
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Well, for starters, that doesn't equal 1GB.
iead1 said:
Well, for starters, that doesn't equal 1GB.
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896MB
Where are the forgotten 128 MB?
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PoTi_96 said:
896MB
Where are the forgotten 128 MB?
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I think we have 386MB of RAM.
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Bourbon Brain said:
I think we have 386MB of RAM.
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Correct. Android 1.6 can only handle 256MB (i think anyway). Its like Windows XP and the 3.2GB RAM limit - sure you can put more than that in the machine but it will only see the maximum amount it can use.
384 but close enough ;-)
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More RAM?
mrtim123 said:
Correct. Android 1.6 can only handle 256MB (i think anyway). Its like Windows XP and the 3.2GB RAM limit - sure you can put more than that in the machine but it will only see the maximum amount it can use.
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can anyone see the size of the RAM being increased over time, perhaps not with 2.1 but in the future, only reason i'm asking is because this is one of the few 1ghz high end phones with less than 512mb of ram and this is a requirment for android 3.0. thinking ahead here . it's just dissapointing to know :/
i'm still very excited about 2.1's arrival which i have been searching for almost every day
just got my xperia x10 last week after a long hard choice between that and the HTC desire and i've never really been a Sony Ericsson fan as all my old phones had software issues and crashed a lot, not what i expected.
Any way it really is a brilliant phone but like everyone says 'the outdated software' is the phones only major dissapointment.
PoTi_96 said:
896MB
Where are the forgotten 128 MB?
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sorry lol forgot to mention the 1.6 limitation on ram lmao
xX_o2_Xx said:
this is a requirment for android 3.0. thinking ahead here . it's just dissapointing to know :/
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Can you find me some proof or source? 3.0 doesn't exist right now, so it can't have "requirements".
Please stop spreading FUD.
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Can you find me some proof or source? 3.0 doesn't exist right now, so it can't have "requirements".
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there have been some posts on websites about the recommended requirements, which to be fair seems a bit steep for a mobile operating system, now unfortunately i can't past the link you'll have to Google 'android 3.0 recommended requirements' or something similar
details below
Android 3.0 Gingerbread will be released in mid- October (around 15 -16th), 2010. First handsets shipping in November/December – for the Holiday Season.
Minimum hardware requirements for Android 3.0 devices are: 1GHZ CPU, 512MB or RAM, displays from 3.5” and higher. (We all, of course, heard that Android handsets with 2GHz CPU’s are coming)
New 1280×760 resolution available for the devices with displays of 4” and higher. (Anyone thinking about Android tablets now? )
Completely revamped user interface. If you want to get a feeling of what Android 3.0 Gingerbread UX is like, check out the Gallery App on Nexus One. The same overall feel, light animated transitions,etc. Natively, through all the UI.
Android’s split into 2 branches becomes official. 3.0 for top of the line/high end devices. Cheap, low-end mass market handsets will keep Android 2.1/2.2
Eldar also confirmed my musings about the death of third party User Interface shells like HTC Sense, MotoBlur, etc;. Android 3.0 basically kills the need for them.
Still, there’s some hope for third party vendors here – while Google takes over the UI on the high end, vendors get to keep their UI shells/improvements on mass market Android smartphones, running Eclair or Froyo.
Update: I posted an update to this post, where I address Dan Morrill’s tweet, and do some corrections/clarifications regarding the upcoming Android update number issues, “minimum” specs – thay are actually only “recommended”, and the the split between high end Android 3 – low end Android 2.2 devices – it’s not an official Google policy, but it is happening nonetheless.
When I run diskusage it shows me having 465 for data so it looks like we dont even get 512. Will the 2.1 update let us install all this stuff on the sd card?
Hi,
We are able to unlock the bootloader ...
We got root ...
My question, is it possible to repartition the storage?
For example: Right now, there is only 1GB space for internal storage.
Is it possible to create 2GB?
And if it is possible, will it be a problem if Google have another OS update?
I meant, does Android OS update will check the "original" storage "layout"?
Thanks
excellent question.
I'd like to know as well, as i already have 1.5 GB of apps & games installed on my SGS that i plan to restore to the Nexus S when it arrives
meaning i'm already over the limit, and i've not even started yet
The answer is probably no. The same question was raised on the MT4G/G2 forums regarding their internal storage and it was determined that the eMMC/storage/whatever it's called chip can only be flashed one time. After that, it is physically impossible to change how it's partitioned in any way.
Now, granted, this is a Samsung device and, thus, they may use different chips. I find it unlikely, though, that it will be any different.
there might be a chance if Nexus S is indeed another breed of the Galaxy S family.
if it's fixed size and not changeable, then it's a good news for us, we will not see the corruption problems we found on many SGS when people repeatedly formatted their Internal SD to try different things
but on the other hand, it will kinda suck, as that will really limit the amount of Apps we can install in the device.
which will put a very heavy enphasis on using App2SD even more
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there might be a chance if Nexus S is indeed another breed of the Galaxy S family.
if it's fixed size and not changeable, then it's a good news for us, we will not see the corruption problems we found on many SGS when people repeatedly formatted their Internal SD to try different things
but on the other hand, it will kinda suck, as that will really limit the amount of Apps we can install in the device.
which will put a very heavy enphasis on using App2SD even more
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You know, a gigabyte for apps goes a very long way. I had 130 apps on my i9000, lots of big ones like CoPilot and some games. I never even got over the 500mb mark on using up my app storage.
Never say never, of course, but I can't imagine worrying about app space on my phone. I'm sure I'll have a new one with much better specs by next summer, which, if apps start growing in size, will have more memory.
How do you have 1.5GB of apps? I have over 150 installed, and they're only like 300MB. Granted, I don't have a ton of games, but I still think it would be hard to get that many apps.
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Android manager apps says this device has max of 728 mb ram , will 3.1 honeycomb update gona use full 1 gm ram like 2.2 froyo did with phones ?
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remember its 1GB shared memory.. rest if for OS and graphic (video) memory.
Why don't they just go ahead and make a stinking tablet with 4gb of ram. I'd pay an extra $150 for it, especially considering the multitasking power it'd have.
The answer to that is simple but long...
I'll give you one guess....
PS: I'd pay extra for too
muqali said:
Why don't they just go ahead and make a stinking tablet with 4gb of ram. I'd pay an extra $150 for it, especially considering the multitasking power it'd have.
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They WILL.. it's just this way you buy a $500 tablet, and next year or 18 months you buy another $600 tablet with 2 or 4 G ram.
Better* for them then selling one $700 tablet now and nothing for another 2 years or so..
(* better from their point of vies)
I think current honeycomb OS only support 1GB ram. My running apps only occupied max 400+ MB. I think extra ram is not necessary.
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They WILL.. it's just this way you buy a $500 tablet, and next year or 18 months you buy another $600 tablet with 2 or 4 G ram.
Better* for them then selling one $700 tablet now and nothing for another 2 years or so..
(* better from their point of vies)
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yes hopefully when vizio comes to the market it forces other companies to lower prices mwhahahahaha
What on Earth would you use more than 1GB of RAM for on these tablets?
I'm loving the amount of memory - coming from the Advent Vega on Honeycomb (a whopping 380ish megabyte available there) 1GB feels positively cavernous.
I don't know that you'd notice a difference between 1GB and 4GB, certainly.
Well, the A500 only has about 480 of the 1G available for you to use anyway, based on mine after startup (and i only have a clock and weather widget running).
By the way - I also feel there's WAY too much auto starting on the A500 - it seems like, after about 2 mins, there's some two dozen things running!!.
Given that Iconia has a usb port and we can connect a keyboard.. Well, if kernel source is released we can make it run a full-blown desktop distro like ubuntu and it'll be one of the lightest and long-living netbooks..
RAM never hurts. Some guys are using ubuntu on Toshiba AC100. Tegra2 itself seems to outperform intel atom in computing tasks like archiving/compression but 512 Mb ram they have there makes using modern apps like chromium painful and nearly impossible without heavy swapping.
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Given that Iconia has a usb port and we can connect a keyboard.. Well, if kernel source is released we can make it run a full-blown desktop distro like ubuntu and it'll be one of the lightest and long-living netbooks..
RAM never hurts. Some guys are using ubuntu on Toshiba AC100. Tegra2 itself seems to outperform intel atom in computing tasks like archiving/compression but 512 Mb ram they have there makes using modern apps like chromium painful and nearly impossible without heavy swapping.
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see here if you want ubuntu/linux on tegra2
also check the xoom section, i think they got a ubuntu 10.x running.
Dexter_nlb said:
see here if you want ubuntu/linux on tegra2
also check the xoom section, i think they got a ubuntu 10.x running.
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You got me soooo wrongly.. Take a look - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1091081. I have done that a month ago. Now I want to run GNU/Linux with X11 natively, without android since that will allow me to enjoy opengl acceleration, alsa and other cool stuff. And obviously it makes no sense to start working without kernel source
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You got me soooo wrongly.. Take a look - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1091081. I have done that a month ago. Now I want to run GNU/Linux with X11 natively, without android since that will allow me to enjoy opengl acceleration, alsa and other cool stuff. And obviously it makes no sense to start working without kernel source
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i think atrix got your tegra2 GL driver already, just look at the Motorola website for the source for the driver. Maybe it can be ported to other tegra2 platforms..
they use it in combination with the dual display function for mobile display + lcd display output (i seen it 99% working on folio100)
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Well, the A500 only has about 480 of the 1G available for you to use anyway, based on mine after startup (and i only have a clock and weather widget running).
By the way - I also feel there's WAY too much auto starting on the A500 - it seems like, after about 2 mins, there's some two dozen things running!!.
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I agree! So root it and take care of that - my a500 is on fire ever since I got rid of some of the stock crapware that ships with it - thanks to the modded version of Ginerbreak posted in the dev section it literally takes less then 5 mins to permaroot (at least till you OTA update) to get rid of some of that factory installed bloat.
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I agree! So root it and take care of that - my a500 is on fire ever since I got rid of some of the stock crapware that ships with it - thanks to the modded version of Ginerbreak posted in the dev section it literally takes less then 5 mins to permaroot (at least till you OTA update) to get rid of some of that factory installed bloat.
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Except you can;t get rid of it - you have to rename it (and rename it back before an update, else you have a $500 brick) which means it's STILL on the tablet.
OK, it might not be running, but it's still there wasting space (like all those crap facebook/twitter things! And the stupid demo games).
Then, all you have to do is forget to name them back, just one small forgetful episode.. brick time!
Unless you just make a custom rom without the bloatware and with a custom recovery.
Custom roms don't get OTA updates (well you disable them) and I'm not expecting an update in the near future so in the meantime I'm waiting with my crapfree rom and waiting for Icecream sandwich if it ever comes for A500.
Besides I can always cook another rom if new versions show up.
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Except you can;t get rid of it - you have to rename it (and rename it back before an update, else you have a $500 brick) which means it's STILL on the tablet.
OK, it might not be running, but it's still there wasting space (like all those crap facebook/twitter things! And the stupid demo games).
Then, all you have to do is forget to name them back, just one small forgetful episode.. brick time!
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Nah. No where as complicated as that. I use a app called "root toolbox" - pretty similar to titanium backup. It will automatically remove any system apk and back it up for you - if you want to be safe you can just keep
a backup of any removed apk's on a USB stick or somewhere off your droid - i rooted and removed a bunch of system apps before I noticed I could apply a OTA update.
Simply restored my default apk's, ran ota upgrade, ran gingerbreak again to regain root - removed annoying system software again. Very little risk of bricking your device unless you really do something silly - and now that we know thanks to xda how to wipe all data and factory restore - it's a pretty low risk process.
Good afternoon,
I posted this question on another droid tablet related forum, but I have been unable to find an answer, so either I am really dense and asking a really dumb question (hooray for me then) or no one knows the answer... yet!
I am hoping this is an I D 10 T error on the users part because I already had one defective Transformer and am not looking forward to a second return, but here goes me hoping for an answer!
When I pull up running apps on my tf101 under settings, it shows I only have a total of 562 megs of ram. It usually fluctuates at about 112 megs being used and 450 free adding up to well below 1 gig of ram. Doesn't the tf101come with 1 gig of ram? Is part of the ram locked down for future updates, or am I in possession of a defective tablet?
Thanks in advance.
I should mention I have the 16 gig version with a 16 gig mini memory card plugged into the unit (PNY brand I believe if it matters). I have upgraded to Honeycomb 3.1, and show no available updates from ASUS (I also have not rooted my tablet it is running stock OS no funny business here!).
There is 1G of ram TOTAL, but this is shared with the video carveout, framebuffers, and probably a few other things that need shared system memory.
raypou said:
There is 1G of ram TOTAL, but this is shared with the video carveout, framebuffers, and probably a few other things that need shared system memory.
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Thank you, I was kinda assuming that it was just ram being locked down for other processes and unusable, but thought I better ask some experts since I had some terrible luck with my first tf101.
Thanks again for your quick response.
Grumsh said:
Good afternoon,
I posted this question on another droid tablet related forum, but I have been unable to find an answer, so either I am really dense and asking a really dumb question (hooray for me then) or no one knows the answer... yet!
I am hoping this is an I D 10 T error on the users part because I already had one defective Transformer and am not looking forward to a second return, but here goes me hoping for an answer!
When I pull up running apps on my tf101 under settings, it shows I only have a total of 562 megs of ram. It usually fluctuates at about 112 megs being used and 450 free adding up to well below 1 gig of ram. Doesn't the tf101come with 1 gig of ram? Is part of the ram locked down for future updates, or am I in possession of a defective tablet?
Thanks in advance.
I should mention I have the 16 gig version with a 16 gig mini memory card plugged into the unit (PNY brand I believe if it matters). I have upgraded to Honeycomb 3.1, and show no available updates from ASUS (I also have not rooted my tablet it is running stock OS no funny business here!).
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The 562 M bytes of RAM you refer to (Actually a 562MB portion of 16 Gb SD flash) is allocated for app storage, the remainder for app data ,music, photos etc. The 1gb RAM you mention is used for program execution,display etc. In addition Android 3.1 does some strange and undocumented dynamic Flash allocation for app stotage. get free disk usage app for detailed memory usage
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The 562 M bytes of RAM (Actually portion of 16 Gb SDRAM ) is allocated for app storage, the remainder for app data ,music, photos etc. The 1gb you mention is used for program execution,display etc. In addition Android 3.1 does some strange and undocumented dynamic SDRAM allocation for app stotage. get free disk usage app for detailed memory usage
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Well, actually, there's 1GB of RAM, and then 16GB of flash storage. They're not the same.
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wynand32 said:
Well, actually, there's 1GB of RAM, and then 16GB of flash storage. They're not the same.
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Thats what I said but flash would have been a more excepted word vs SDRam .Edited original post to clarify.