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The Xperia Has 384mb Ram...

What is the actual RAM in the device?
The X1 has 384 MB RAM but you'll note that the device information screen says 256MB. This is because the X1 also has an additional 128MB RAM that's only accessible to the CPU/3D chip. There isn't really anyway way to know this apart from taking SE's work although HTC also confirm this but we're looking for a way for end users to verify for themselves
source:
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2008/10/13/sony-ericsson-xperia-x1-answers

already discussed, this thread is duplicated
and if you read the full answer, you will find:
"There isn't really anyway way to know this apart from taking SE's work although HTC also confirm this but we're looking for a way for end users to verify for themselves."
So, performance seems confirm the presence of 128mb of vram, but for now we cannot be sure of that

guap said:
already discussed, this thread is duplicated
and if you read the full answer, you will find:
"There isn't really anyway way to know this apart from taking SE's work although HTC also confirm this but we're looking for a way for end users to verify for themselves."
So, performance seems confirm the presence of 128mb of vram, but for now we cannot be sure of that
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well, just posted this to notify you all, one of my relatives (wifes cousin) is a developer at SE in sweden, and he say's it got it, but hey he could be wrong...
and the other thread was about it NOT having that much ram...

So, performance seems confirm the presence of 128mb of vram
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uh, how so?

seeing is believing
got to be sceptical,
if it's not stated anywhere than it's not there.....
if one believe it that it has 384 RAM,
might as well assume that the x1 also had swiss knife build in, 2Ghz dual core processor, nuclear powered, what ever one can imagine.....
well, now i see how experia is the ultimate machine,
as it is really up to your imagination.

xcesspda said:
got to be sceptical,
if it's not stated anywhere than it's not there.....
if one believe it that it has 384 RAM,
might as well assume that the x1 also had swiss knife build in, 2Ghz dual core processor, nuclear powered, what ever one can imagine.....
well, now i see how experia is the ultimate machine,
as it is really up to your imagination.
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Very funny

xcesspda said:
the x1 also had swiss knife build in, 2Ghz dual core processor, nuclear powered, what ever one can imagine.....
well, now i see how experia is the ultimate machine,
as it is really up to your imagination.
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Are you willing to repeat that in front of [insert famous/important/very important persons name]?
Anyway, fu** this, my notebook has 128mb vram and I play fu****g Tom Clancy first person shooters! WTF is wrong with those fu****s putting 128mb vram in a fu****g cellphone! Geeeez I'm so fu****g male but I think I seriously gonna get my period very soon over that device and what gets speculated about it...!
(is writing fu** ok btw?)

[Q] Is 256 MB of RAM low ?

give me your opinions about the Samsung Focus RAM

According to Microsoft, the RAM is 512.
Not sure who to believe MS, or the general interweb information.
M.

I emailed Samsung PR and they said it will have 512MB of RAM.

Thank you all guys
you gave me hope!!!!!!

ryotgz said:
I emailed Samsung PR and they said it will have 512MB of RAM.
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Nice one, thanks!

Molal said:
Nice one, thanks!
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Yea I just hope they didn't get it confused with the ROM size... AT&T has a PDF spec sheet that says 256MB. Only time will tell I guess.

Well I emailed Samsung PR again and got a response that makes me weary about the 512MB of RAM email I received. I asked how much ROM space (not storage space) the phone will have and got 8GB. I even stated in the email not to confuse with the 8GB of user storage. So it could in fact have 512MB ROM, 256MB RAM. Man, I hope Microsoft's WP7 website is right.
If that's the case, I may have to get the Surround even though I don't want to...

ryotgz said:
Well I emailed Samsung PR again and got a response that makes me weary about the 512MB of RAM email I received. I asked how much ROM space (not storage space) the phone will have and got 8GB. I even stated in the email not to confuse with the 8GB of user storage. So it could in fact have 512MB ROM, 256MB RAM. Man, I hope Microsoft's WP7 website is right.
If that's the case, I may have to get the Surround even though I don't want to...
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That's exactly my line of thinking - surround instead of focus if the focus only has 256mb of RAM.
But, watching the videos of the focus it looks as fluid as the other 512mb RAM phones.....maybe 256mb is all you need. Particularly given the fact that the Windows OS spreads across RAM (inc. the memory card).

The Focus will have 512mb not 256mb. This is a specific Microsoft WP7 requirement.

ericc191 said:
The Focus will have 512mb not 256mb. This is a specific Microsoft WP7 requirement.
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I hope you're right. Because I saw the specs that Microsoft required a minimum of 256MB. AT&T has a spec sheet that shows 256MB as well. I want AT&T to be wrong and MS website to be right.

Every review I've seen today shows only 256mb of ram. With the lack of 3rd party multitasking apps I don't see this as being a major problem. Having said that I would have liked the phone to have 512mb just in case. You can never have too much ram.

ericc191 said:
The Focus will have 512mb not 256mb. This is a specific Microsoft WP7 requirement.
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You're wrong WP7 specific requirement is 256mb of ram or higher. 8gb of storage or higher. Did you see the keynote 6 months ago. The LG quantum being released on At&t will also have 256mb of ram. The surround will have 512 with 448mb available to the user.

nerdgenius said:
You're wrong WP7 specific requirement is 256mb of ram or higher. 8gb of storage or higher. Did you see the keynote 6 months ago. The LG quantum being released on At&t will also have 256mb of ram. The surround will have 512 with 448mb available to the user.
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I stand corrected.

Samsung Focus is the phone I want to get without settlling. THe HD7 is a little too big for me, I might as well get a tablet. However like a few people here, I might have to settle for the HTC Surround if the Focus does indeed only have 256MB RAM.
Sure it may be acceptable now with 256MB but MS could release Windows Phone SP1 or SP2 with multitasking enabled. I also know too many iPhone users who will gloat if I get a phone with less RAM than theirs. I am still up in the air and wish the decision were easy if the Focus had 512MB RAM or the Surround had a microSD slot.
If I do get the Surround, it looks like I will need to sell this 32GB microSD card I just purchased..
The thing is Microsoft recently updated their 'at-a-glance' WP7 site to correct inaccuracies and it still shows the Focus at 512MB RAM.
[www dot microsoft dot com/presspass/presskits/windowsphone/glance.aspx]

Yes! Engadget confirmed the RAM is 512MB and the ROM will be 1GB! The Samsung PR lady that emailed me was right.
Engadget Focus Review

Engadget.com just updated their review earlier today saying the Focus has 512 RAM and 1GB ROM. Which is.good to know.
Also said, unlike any other WP7 phone, you can expand memory using micro sd slot. Only problem is it supposedly wipes your device every time you put one in or take it out. So don't take it out.
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Made2Last said:
Engadget.com just updated their review earlier today saying the Focus has 512 RAM and 1GB ROM. Which is.good to know.
Also said, unlike any other WP7 phone, you can expand memory using micro sd slot. Only problem is it supposedly wipes your device every time you put one in or take it out. So don't take it out.
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA App
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The Venue Pro is also expandable

Made2Last said:
Engadget.com just updated their review earlier today saying the Focus has 512 RAM and 1GB ROM. Which is.good to know.
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The question is : does this applied to the omnia 7 ?

ouvreboite said:
The question is : does this applied to the omnia 7 ?
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Microsoft's website shows the same RAM & ROM. So there's a good chance it will.

Good news indeed. This and the GPS (concerns it would suffer the same as the Galaxy S devices) were the only two things holding me back from this device. Now, November 8th can't get here soon enough.

Only 728 mb ram ?

Android manager apps says this device has max of 728 mb ram , will 3.1 honeycomb update gona use full 1 gm ram like 2.2 froyo did with phones ?
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remember its 1GB shared memory.. rest if for OS and graphic (video) memory.

Why don't they just go ahead and make a stinking tablet with 4gb of ram. I'd pay an extra $150 for it, especially considering the multitasking power it'd have.

The answer to that is simple but long...
I'll give you one guess....
PS: I'd pay extra for too

muqali said:
Why don't they just go ahead and make a stinking tablet with 4gb of ram. I'd pay an extra $150 for it, especially considering the multitasking power it'd have.
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They WILL.. it's just this way you buy a $500 tablet, and next year or 18 months you buy another $600 tablet with 2 or 4 G ram.
Better* for them then selling one $700 tablet now and nothing for another 2 years or so..
(* better from their point of vies)

I think current honeycomb OS only support 1GB ram. My running apps only occupied max 400+ MB. I think extra ram is not necessary.
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Fluffbutt said:
They WILL.. it's just this way you buy a $500 tablet, and next year or 18 months you buy another $600 tablet with 2 or 4 G ram.
Better* for them then selling one $700 tablet now and nothing for another 2 years or so..
(* better from their point of vies)
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yes hopefully when vizio comes to the market it forces other companies to lower prices mwhahahahaha

What on Earth would you use more than 1GB of RAM for on these tablets?
I'm loving the amount of memory - coming from the Advent Vega on Honeycomb (a whopping 380ish megabyte available there) 1GB feels positively cavernous.
I don't know that you'd notice a difference between 1GB and 4GB, certainly.

Well, the A500 only has about 480 of the 1G available for you to use anyway, based on mine after startup (and i only have a clock and weather widget running).
By the way - I also feel there's WAY too much auto starting on the A500 - it seems like, after about 2 mins, there's some two dozen things running!!.

Given that Iconia has a usb port and we can connect a keyboard.. Well, if kernel source is released we can make it run a full-blown desktop distro like ubuntu and it'll be one of the lightest and long-living netbooks..
RAM never hurts. Some guys are using ubuntu on Toshiba AC100. Tegra2 itself seems to outperform intel atom in computing tasks like archiving/compression but 512 Mb ram they have there makes using modern apps like chromium painful and nearly impossible without heavy swapping.

sp3dev said:
Given that Iconia has a usb port and we can connect a keyboard.. Well, if kernel source is released we can make it run a full-blown desktop distro like ubuntu and it'll be one of the lightest and long-living netbooks..
RAM never hurts. Some guys are using ubuntu on Toshiba AC100. Tegra2 itself seems to outperform intel atom in computing tasks like archiving/compression but 512 Mb ram they have there makes using modern apps like chromium painful and nearly impossible without heavy swapping.
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see here if you want ubuntu/linux on tegra2
also check the xoom section, i think they got a ubuntu 10.x running.

Dexter_nlb said:
see here if you want ubuntu/linux on tegra2
also check the xoom section, i think they got a ubuntu 10.x running.
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You got me soooo wrongly.. Take a look - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1091081. I have done that a month ago. Now I want to run GNU/Linux with X11 natively, without android since that will allow me to enjoy opengl acceleration, alsa and other cool stuff. And obviously it makes no sense to start working without kernel source

sp3dev said:
You got me soooo wrongly.. Take a look - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1091081. I have done that a month ago. Now I want to run GNU/Linux with X11 natively, without android since that will allow me to enjoy opengl acceleration, alsa and other cool stuff. And obviously it makes no sense to start working without kernel source
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i think atrix got your tegra2 GL driver already, just look at the Motorola website for the source for the driver. Maybe it can be ported to other tegra2 platforms..
they use it in combination with the dual display function for mobile display + lcd display output (i seen it 99% working on folio100)

Fluffbutt said:
Well, the A500 only has about 480 of the 1G available for you to use anyway, based on mine after startup (and i only have a clock and weather widget running).
By the way - I also feel there's WAY too much auto starting on the A500 - it seems like, after about 2 mins, there's some two dozen things running!!.
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I agree! So root it and take care of that - my a500 is on fire ever since I got rid of some of the stock crapware that ships with it - thanks to the modded version of Ginerbreak posted in the dev section it literally takes less then 5 mins to permaroot (at least till you OTA update) to get rid of some of that factory installed bloat.

entropy.of.avarice said:
I agree! So root it and take care of that - my a500 is on fire ever since I got rid of some of the stock crapware that ships with it - thanks to the modded version of Ginerbreak posted in the dev section it literally takes less then 5 mins to permaroot (at least till you OTA update) to get rid of some of that factory installed bloat.
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Except you can;t get rid of it - you have to rename it (and rename it back before an update, else you have a $500 brick) which means it's STILL on the tablet.
OK, it might not be running, but it's still there wasting space (like all those crap facebook/twitter things! And the stupid demo games).
Then, all you have to do is forget to name them back, just one small forgetful episode.. brick time!

Unless you just make a custom rom without the bloatware and with a custom recovery.
Custom roms don't get OTA updates (well you disable them) and I'm not expecting an update in the near future so in the meantime I'm waiting with my crapfree rom and waiting for Icecream sandwich if it ever comes for A500.
Besides I can always cook another rom if new versions show up.

Fluffbutt said:
Except you can;t get rid of it - you have to rename it (and rename it back before an update, else you have a $500 brick) which means it's STILL on the tablet.
OK, it might not be running, but it's still there wasting space (like all those crap facebook/twitter things! And the stupid demo games).
Then, all you have to do is forget to name them back, just one small forgetful episode.. brick time!
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Nah. No where as complicated as that. I use a app called "root toolbox" - pretty similar to titanium backup. It will automatically remove any system apk and back it up for you - if you want to be safe you can just keep
a backup of any removed apk's on a USB stick or somewhere off your droid - i rooted and removed a bunch of system apps before I noticed I could apply a OTA update.
Simply restored my default apk's, ran ota upgrade, ran gingerbreak again to regain root - removed annoying system software again. Very little risk of bricking your device unless you really do something silly - and now that we know thanks to xda how to wipe all data and factory restore - it's a pretty low risk process.

[Q] Defective Ram Or Really Dense User?

Good afternoon,
I posted this question on another droid tablet related forum, but I have been unable to find an answer, so either I am really dense and asking a really dumb question (hooray for me then) or no one knows the answer... yet!
I am hoping this is an I D 10 T error on the users part because I already had one defective Transformer and am not looking forward to a second return, but here goes me hoping for an answer!
When I pull up running apps on my tf101 under settings, it shows I only have a total of 562 megs of ram. It usually fluctuates at about 112 megs being used and 450 free adding up to well below 1 gig of ram. Doesn't the tf101come with 1 gig of ram? Is part of the ram locked down for future updates, or am I in possession of a defective tablet?
Thanks in advance.
I should mention I have the 16 gig version with a 16 gig mini memory card plugged into the unit (PNY brand I believe if it matters). I have upgraded to Honeycomb 3.1, and show no available updates from ASUS (I also have not rooted my tablet it is running stock OS no funny business here!).

There is 1G of ram TOTAL, but this is shared with the video carveout, framebuffers, and probably a few other things that need shared system memory.

raypou said:
There is 1G of ram TOTAL, but this is shared with the video carveout, framebuffers, and probably a few other things that need shared system memory.
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Thank you, I was kinda assuming that it was just ram being locked down for other processes and unusable, but thought I better ask some experts since I had some terrible luck with my first tf101.
Thanks again for your quick response.

Grumsh said:
Good afternoon,
I posted this question on another droid tablet related forum, but I have been unable to find an answer, so either I am really dense and asking a really dumb question (hooray for me then) or no one knows the answer... yet!
I am hoping this is an I D 10 T error on the users part because I already had one defective Transformer and am not looking forward to a second return, but here goes me hoping for an answer!
When I pull up running apps on my tf101 under settings, it shows I only have a total of 562 megs of ram. It usually fluctuates at about 112 megs being used and 450 free adding up to well below 1 gig of ram. Doesn't the tf101come with 1 gig of ram? Is part of the ram locked down for future updates, or am I in possession of a defective tablet?
Thanks in advance.
I should mention I have the 16 gig version with a 16 gig mini memory card plugged into the unit (PNY brand I believe if it matters). I have upgraded to Honeycomb 3.1, and show no available updates from ASUS (I also have not rooted my tablet it is running stock OS no funny business here!).
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The 562 M bytes of RAM you refer to (Actually a 562MB portion of 16 Gb SD flash) is allocated for app storage, the remainder for app data ,music, photos etc. The 1gb RAM you mention is used for program execution,display etc. In addition Android 3.1 does some strange and undocumented dynamic Flash allocation for app stotage. get free disk usage app for detailed memory usage

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The 562 M bytes of RAM (Actually portion of 16 Gb SDRAM ) is allocated for app storage, the remainder for app data ,music, photos etc. The 1gb you mention is used for program execution,display etc. In addition Android 3.1 does some strange and undocumented dynamic SDRAM allocation for app stotage. get free disk usage app for detailed memory usage
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Well, actually, there's 1GB of RAM, and then 16GB of flash storage. They're not the same.
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wynand32 said:
Well, actually, there's 1GB of RAM, and then 16GB of flash storage. They're not the same.
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Thats what I said but flash would have been a more excepted word vs SDRam .Edited original post to clarify.

Motorola Shamu (aka Nexus 6) benchmarked

Nexus 6 got benchmarked from Geekbench few days ago (spotted by GadgetzArena.com).
http://blog.gadgetzarena.com/rumours/motorola-shamu-nexus-6-spotted-in-geekbench-benchmarks/

I don't get why release with Snappy 805 without 64bit support but Android L is 64Bit....
The battle will come when 808 / 810 release in 2015.:silly:

ps000000 said:
I don't get why release with Snappy 805 without 64bit support but Android L is 64Bit....
The battle will come when 808 / 810 release in 2015.:silly:
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Um where did google state android L has to be 64gb?
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ps000000 said:
I don't get why release with Snappy 805 without 64bit support but Android L is 64Bit....
The battle will come when 808 / 810 release in 2015.:silly:
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I've seen a lot of people complaining about this. Who cares if it comes with a 64-bit processor versus a 32-bit? Do you need 4GB+ of ram for arguing that you must have a 64-bit OS? Or are you hoping they launch it in 64-bit so you get the next latest and greatest processor? Android L will launch in 32/64-bit flavors. I would put my bet on the tablet containing the 64-bit version.

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Um where did google state android L has to be 64gb?
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Nowhere, what gigabytes has to do with Android L?

mara- said:
Nowhere, what gigabytes has to do with Android L?
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I meant 64bit processor being a requirement.
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Totally agree with adio01, I believe that having 64 bit support will only be useful if you need to allocate more than 4GB of memory. There is however, a per process limit of 3GB on 32bit. So 64bit support would make sense if you:
a) Have more than 4GB of RAM
b) Have an application that is very very thirsty and needs more than 3GB of memory
Scenario a is obvious. If the device has less than 4GB of memory there is no problem. 64bit actually introduces some additional overhead so it might actually perform marginally worse than 32bit.
Scenario b is very unlikely on a mobile device. This would make sense when doing heavy video editting or photoshop on a desktop.
It does look good on the box though but that would be beneficial to marketing only.

So what's the screen size for it? Some sites say 5.9 and others 5.2. I'm hoping it's not 5.9..

64bit has lots more advantages than larger memory addressing capabilities!
Know your facts before spouting off in a public forum!
HTC One M8

We've had a Nexus 6 rumor thread dedicated since March :http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/google-nexus-6-t2696145
Please use that one to continue discussion.
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