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[Q] Internal phone storage..

I have 101 applications installed in my phone. In internal phone storage available space is 148MB only.My question is what might be decreased 1GB of storage to 148MB. Is it because of so many applications??
Does this effect RAM??
Is 256MB of RAM included in 1GB??
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rajeshmorampudi said:
I have 101 applications installed in my phone. In internal phone storage available space is 148MB only.My question is what might be decreased 1GB of storage to 148MB. Is it because of so many applications??
Does this effect RAM??
Is 256MB of RAM included in 1GB??
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512mb for apps
256mb for ram
128 for graphics
as far as i know this is correct, but correct me if im wrong people

sofir786 said:
512mb for apps
256mb for ram
128 for graphics
as far as i know this is correct, but correct me if im wrong people
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Well, for starters, that doesn't equal 1GB.

iead1 said:
Well, for starters, that doesn't equal 1GB.
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896MB
Where are the forgotten 128 MB?
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PoTi_96 said:
896MB
Where are the forgotten 128 MB?
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I think we have 386MB of RAM.
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Bourbon Brain said:
I think we have 386MB of RAM.
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Correct. Android 1.6 can only handle 256MB (i think anyway). Its like Windows XP and the 3.2GB RAM limit - sure you can put more than that in the machine but it will only see the maximum amount it can use.

384 but close enough ;-)
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More RAM?
mrtim123 said:
Correct. Android 1.6 can only handle 256MB (i think anyway). Its like Windows XP and the 3.2GB RAM limit - sure you can put more than that in the machine but it will only see the maximum amount it can use.
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can anyone see the size of the RAM being increased over time, perhaps not with 2.1 but in the future, only reason i'm asking is because this is one of the few 1ghz high end phones with less than 512mb of ram and this is a requirment for android 3.0. thinking ahead here . it's just dissapointing to know :/
i'm still very excited about 2.1's arrival which i have been searching for almost every day
just got my xperia x10 last week after a long hard choice between that and the HTC desire and i've never really been a Sony Ericsson fan as all my old phones had software issues and crashed a lot, not what i expected.
Any way it really is a brilliant phone but like everyone says 'the outdated software' is the phones only major dissapointment.

PoTi_96 said:
896MB
Where are the forgotten 128 MB?
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sorry lol forgot to mention the 1.6 limitation on ram lmao

xX_o2_Xx said:
this is a requirment for android 3.0. thinking ahead here . it's just dissapointing to know :/
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Can you find me some proof or source? 3.0 doesn't exist right now, so it can't have "requirements".
Please stop spreading FUD.

iead1 said:
Can you find me some proof or source? 3.0 doesn't exist right now, so it can't have "requirements".
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there have been some posts on websites about the recommended requirements, which to be fair seems a bit steep for a mobile operating system, now unfortunately i can't past the link you'll have to Google 'android 3.0 recommended requirements' or something similar
details below
Android 3.0 Gingerbread will be released in mid- October (around 15 -16th), 2010. First handsets shipping in November/December – for the Holiday Season.
Minimum hardware requirements for Android 3.0 devices are: 1GHZ CPU, 512MB or RAM, displays from 3.5” and higher. (We all, of course, heard that Android handsets with 2GHz CPU’s are coming)
New 1280×760 resolution available for the devices with displays of 4” and higher. (Anyone thinking about Android tablets now? )
Completely revamped user interface. If you want to get a feeling of what Android 3.0 Gingerbread UX is like, check out the Gallery App on Nexus One. The same overall feel, light animated transitions,etc. Natively, through all the UI.
Android’s split into 2 branches becomes official. 3.0 for top of the line/high end devices. Cheap, low-end mass market handsets will keep Android 2.1/2.2
Eldar also confirmed my musings about the death of third party User Interface shells like HTC Sense, MotoBlur, etc;. Android 3.0 basically kills the need for them.
Still, there’s some hope for third party vendors here – while Google takes over the UI on the high end, vendors get to keep their UI shells/improvements on mass market Android smartphones, running Eclair or Froyo.
Update: I posted an update to this post, where I address Dan Morrill’s tweet, and do some corrections/clarifications regarding the upcoming Android update number issues, “minimum” specs – thay are actually only “recommended”, and the the split between high end Android 3 – low end Android 2.2 devices – it’s not an official Google policy, but it is happening nonetheless.

When I run diskusage it shows me having 465 for data so it looks like we dont even get 512. Will the 2.1 update let us install all this stuff on the sd card?

[Q] Dual boot android with windows phone 7 is it possible?

Just a question for grins! I know the HD2 can dual boot Windows and Android but can the Epic dual boot Windows as well? I just think it would be something to check off my list to do for the heck of it even though Android is far better than Windows.

That is a good question

I don't think anyone is actually going to try unless they want a lawsuit from M$...unlike android Windows requires a license from M$..they let winmo phones slide cause they make money either way but I don't think they would let an Android phone running their OS slide...

I could be wrong but the snapdragon and htc phones may have x86 instructions... I don't know what winmo was written on though.
I'm almost positive there isn't an ARM version of windows.
So feel free to prove me wrong but if windows doesn't have an ARM binary and the hummingbird doesn't support x86, which I'm almost sure it doesn't. Then we won't see that happening anytime soon.
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Its been asked so many times try searching before you post
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snowmanwithahat said:
I could be wrong but the snapdragon and htc phones may have x86 instructions... I don't know what winmo was written on though.
I'm almost positive there isn't an ARM version of windows.
So feel free to prove me wrong but if windows doesn't have an ARM binary and the hummingbird doesn't support x86, which I'm almost sure it doesn't. Then we won't see that happening anytime soon.
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Snapdragons are based on ARM Cortex A8..its not x86...the mobile processor thats x86 is the Intel Moorestown...
You are confusing windows phone with actual windows..they have no relations..

Not to mention the above but wp7 has a phone identifier, do that would have to be spoofed as well for it to be at all useful.
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64bit chess engine performance

please refer to https://www.facebook.com/komodochess
Komodo team ask guys who own Nexus 9 to post knps number of Komodo (that should be much higher now due to 64bit support..):
Komodo Chess 8 for Android has been updated in the Play Store. It now supports more processors and has a 64 bit version. If you have a 64 bit Android device (like the new Nexus 9) let us know how the node rate changes:

$4.85 on Play store just to give the team the number? How about releasing a benchmark app free so they can get useful performance data from users.

Is lollypop on this 32 of 64bit?
Thought they shipped with 32 and will be updated later to x64
If so this is pointless you won't get better score being 64bit CPU if you don't have 64 OS.
And lol $4 for that crap sounds like bunch of bull trying to make a sale.

demo23019 said:
Is lollypop on this 32 of 64bit?
Thought they shipped with 32 and will be updated later to x64
If so this is pointless you won't get better score being 64bit CPU if you don't have 64 OS.
And lol $4 for that crap sounds like bunch of bull trying to make a sale.
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Nexus 9 CPU is 64bit and lollipop fully supports 64bit

richteralan said:
$4.85 on Play store just to give the team the number? How about releasing a benchmark app free so they can get useful performance data from users.
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Instead, you can try droidfish free app (stockfish chess engine) and check the knps number under Analysis option

By by intel atom....

didnt see this but zenfone2 is last fone that will have atom chip
http://hothardware.com/news/intel-g...doning-smartphone-and-low-cost-tablet-markets

Pu$$nBooT$ said:
didnt see this but zenfone2 is last fone that will have atom chip
http://hothardware.com/news/intel-g...doning-smartphone-and-low-cost-tablet-markets
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Good,at least,the Zenfone 3 will have MIUI or FlyMe
Meco on Zenfone 2(4/64) & Tapatalk v.5!

Sadly the Intel Atom chip didn't really blow up in the smartphone and tablet market. It's still a long way to catch up with Snapdragon or Apples A-chips.
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hmm, probably bad news for x86_64 Android support, but lets see.
Kind of a pity that this happens before convergent devices really start showing their promise, a x86 CPU would have been great for legacy apps.
Let hope that this will at least result in Intel making their awesome "Big Screen Experience" software for running GNU/Linux side by side with Android open source, now that they don't have any real interest in the space anymore.

Pu$$nBooT$ said:
didnt see this but zenfone2 is last fone that will have atom chip
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ZenFone 2 isn't the last, but the ZenFone Zoom...
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Damn Intel! Makes me believe in their architeture could be good on mobile, and now made this.
Well, they could, at least, release the BSB packages with all blobs, sources and everything, to the community auto-provide the software support.

next is intel core m smartphone lol

elemuelsah said:
next is intel core m smartphone lol
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Intel left "mobile" for "internet of things".

If Intel stops making Atom chips for mobile phones, will that mean app developers will stop making/supporting the x86 architecture and focus more on ARM64?
The ZenFone 2 isn't the only phone with an x86_64 architecture right?

GroveStreetHomie said:
If Intel stops making Atom chips for mobile phones, will that mean app developers will stop making/supporting the x86 architecture and focus more on ARM64?
The ZenFone 2 isn't the only phone with an x86_64 architecture right?
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No, but it's the most popular. I see some Saltwell, some Merrifield, but the best and more popular x86 smartphone is Zenfone 2.
I think (focus less in x86 and more in ARMv8) its the natural step, lets realize as an app developer: "if the Intel doesnt give a sh*t for her own processor, why I have to do something for it? Is the market share reasonable?"
In another point: "I really NEED to optimize it to x86? It has an translate lib to run ARM, so, I don give a sh*t too."

It's a big blow to Microsoft.

KillerNo2 said:
It's a big blow to Microsoft.
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Microsoft doesn't even care. Their smartphones packed with Qualcomm Snapdragon SoCs and for PCs they still have AMD to be supported by the company.
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KillerNo2 said:
It's a big blow to Microsoft.
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Well Intel did not pull out of the tablet marker yet, so Microsoft's tablets or surfaces or whatever they are calling them now are pretty safe.
If anything it is big blow to diversity and competition. Qualcomm may get comfortable and become stagnant.

Hooo sad news...
I'm gonna keep my Zenfone 2 Z00AD very longtime... It's the only one decent smartphone with x86/x86_64 support and KVM, wich have the possibility to virtualise an PC system, chroot X86 linux distrib', and run wine for Android (launching Windows APPS on Android)..

Samsung Tab A 64bit or still 32?

just a quick question before purchase sm-p550
are these tablets 32bit or 64, how does one actually tell?

kwhelan12 said:
just a quick question before purchase sm-p550
are these tablets 32bit or 64, how does one actually tell?
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It's 64 bit, there are apps that tell you device info, a d thats what it reports it is, also i tested the dolphin emulator on this tab and it installed and it is a 64bit only app.

well it turns out the SM-P550 touchwiz is arm 7 32bit and takes the v86.0 sdk23 arm version of xposed for 6.01 marshmallow

kwhelan12 said:
well it turns out the SM-P550 touchwiz is arm 7 32bit and takes the v86.0 sdk23 arm version of xposed for 6.01 marshmallow
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What? My English is not good enough. I understand that tab A is 64 bits but Samsung launcher is 32. Is that it?

The processor is x64, bus bandwidth though is 32 bit.

A 64 processor with a 32 bus? It's like a big parking with a little in/out! LOL

PepaBCN said:
A 64 processor with a 32 bus? It's like a big parking with a little in/out! LOL
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it is NOT 64bit, it does not have 64bit run time libararies nor libs, I know I build custom ROM for it...
unless you guys talking about upcoming new Tab A, that's different story

T580 has 64bit Exynos processor.

I have sm-t707 at&t (32bit exynos) and sm-t707v (32bit snapdragon) and my son's sm-t580 (64bit exynos) the power and responsivity of snapdragon is much higher but graphically is poor exynos 5420 is much better, sm-t580 (exynos 64bit) has exatly the same power of sm-t707, but energy compsuntion is HALF (!)

Can I update my galaxy tab A so that its bandwidth is 64 bit

jazzespresso said:
it is NOT 64bit, it does not have 64bit run time libararies nor libs, I know I build custom ROM for it...
unless you guys talking about upcoming new Tab A, that's different story
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What about the (SM-T380) Galaxy Tab A 8.0 (2017)? because I upgraded my guess is that the newer tab A 8.0 can run 64bit apps but has a 32bit system?

To me 64bit sux hind tit. I have been messing with 64bit tv boxes, the best and most reliable run 32bit firmware.
At least in my testing up to Nougat 7.1 , there is no real world benefit with 64bit firmware. In fact it bloats your system big time. Peeps in the know, know what i am talking about.
I can't believe its almost 2020 and peeps think more bits is better. Until they make risc cpus mainstream, nobody will really know any better. This type of talk has been a gimmick for adding sales since 1988. More bits don't do squat without a true os to make it work, and apps built around it. If you want speed, get an octacore or multi octacore system, dont waste your money on bits that go ignored with most apps.

gooberdude said:
To me 64bit sux hind tit. I have been messing with 64bit tv boxes, the best and most reliable run 32bit firmware.
At least in my testing up to Nougat 7.1 , there is no real world benefit with 64bit firmware. In fact it bloats your system big time. Peeps in the know, know what i am talking about.
I can't believe its almost 2020 and peeps think more bits is better. Until they make risc cpus mainstream, nobody will really know any better. This type of talk has been a gimmick for adding sales since 1988. More bits don't do squat without a true os to make it work, and apps built around it. If you want speed, get an octacore or multi octacore system, dont waste your money on bits that go ignored with most apps.
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Till a big company like Google forces older devices out of the market by pulling an apple and making 64bit only apps

Austcool said:
Till a big company like Google forces older devices out of the market by pulling an apple and making 64bit only apps
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According to Google's plans, after August 1, any apps and app updates that include native code are required to provide 64-bit versions in addition to 32-bit versions when publishing to Google Play. For the 32-bit diehards, Google has an additional shot of bad news: Google Play will only accept 32-bit only updates to existing games that use Unity 5.6 or older until August 2021.
It sure looks like Google is inching toward the line of 64 bit only.

I know the processor is able to handle 64 bit and that Android 7 is using a 32-bit environment. I have the update to 8.1 downloaded but what I would like to know is did Samsung add the 64 bit environment to the 8.1 update. I would assume no..as I don't expect for a happy ending. I normally could care less. However, Elder Scrolls Blades is the first app i have come across that will not install and say in the installer itself it is not compatible. After looking in the logcat i saw that it failed when attempting to access 64 bit instruction set..or libraries...whatever it is had 64 all over it. So can anyone give me the absolute answer that Android 8 on this tab is still 32 bit or does it have the 64 bit native?

the other issue with Samsung is the lack of kernel and device trees for there roms means we cannot even easily make a 64bit custom rom like lineageOS with out struggling to figure out the proper way to port with the configs and what not....

so then we are screwed if we arent a dev. Its already hard enough to even find the SM-P580 in xda forums. Let alone have someone go back in time to the tab forgotten. Unless I missed a release..this one is the last over 7 inch tab with an s-pen. Well after typing that i looked at samsungs website and realized I missed it because they kept the S4 brand and slapped it on a tab. I'd try the kitchen myself if there were any ROMs out there that i could at least get permission to mess with.