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Hey guys,
I've been running android via SD card on my HD2. I love it, but its a little laggy and I've been running into bug with data (TMOUS) cutting in and out. I've tried quite a few different WinMO roms and versions of android.
My question is how would NAND android suit me? Would it run a little bit faster and be a little more stable? As well, would battery life be a little bit better?
Once I do NAND, am I able to reverse things back to WinMO if I wanted to?
If someone can explain this and possibly provide a link to some information that would be great. I'm unable to find what I need on the search.
Thanks for the help and sorry for the noob question. I'm kinda new to this and I'm still trying to figure things out. I've done several PSPs before, but never a phone. Hopefully once I get the basics down I can handle the rest.
Thanks for the help

Look in android development forum - there is a newbie guide stickied

Hey there. Before anyone else gets you... The search button is our friend. This has been answered. However, in my opinion: Running Android on nand is less taxing on the ram, microsd card and the battery on your phone. This also makes android much more stable.
To go back to Windows Mobile you can flash a stock rom... To do this search the forums and you will find your answer.
If you still need more help post back and I'll give you a hand.
~Romey~

cd78 said:
Look in android development forum - there is a newbie guide stickied
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Found it thanks
tigermaster21703 said:
Hey there. Before anyone else gets you... The search button is our friend. This has been answered. However, in my opinion: Running Android on nand is less taxing on the ram, microsd card and the battery on your phone. This also makes android much more stable.
To go back to Windows Mobile you can flash a stock rom... To do this search the forums and you will find your answer.
If you still need more help post back and I'll give you a hand.
~Romey~
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Thanks Romey. I found some of the info and I'm going to give it a shot. I'll post my success / failure when I'm done.

broknindarkagain said:
Hey guys,
I've been running android via SD card on my HD2. I love it, but its a little laggy and I've been running into bug with data (TMOUS) cutting in and out. I've tried quite a few different WinMO roms and versions of android.
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if it's laggy then you haven't tried RAM builds or there's something wrong with your phone/sd card.

dan138zig said:
if it's laggy then you haven't tried RAM builds or there's something wrong with your phone/sd card.
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No I have not done any RAM builds. Just SD. Its not terribly laggy, but it feels like it should be faster.
I just finished putting a NAND flavor of Android on my phone. No brick for me! yay
Everything seems to be working well so far and its blazing fast with no lag
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction

Need a good rom. Please advise.

hi guys. so in the last few days i've been messing around with Android/NAND and i have to say somethings are still problematic...
my main rom that i tried which somewhat worked great (and even had arabic files for it) is the HD2 CoreDroid DHD V1 ROM. This is a great ROM however its very very sluggish and slow at booting/doing anything ... it is a nightmare to wake up the HD2 when its in sleep and there are these two to four seconds of "pausing" it has. [edit: i am starting to blame the Class 4 8GB microSD here. i'll have to change it and report]
so i got bored and decided what the he** let me try WP7... i have to say WP7 with its limitations is very smooth on the HD2.. the animations which i wish the android has are really smooth and fluid.
this is not to say i am sticking wp7 on my beloved hd2.. i am just asking the most basic questions here:
Can I find a ROM thats quick, supports the arabic libskia* files or has them compiled to work and still be quick?

Check here

Wrong Section bro.
Theres plenty of fast roms around here... try some out like all of us.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=928
You can find all the nice roms in the above link!
Better, don't create this kind of threads, search-download-test and choose on your own!
Good luck!
Try Dandiest rom in SD Android section, I think it supports Arabic .... as you want to run wm7 along with Android, right?

and yet these responses are expected. oh well. thanks anyhow..
but still though i wanted to know if anyone is experiencing slowdowns on ROMS like the 2/4 sec delay and during screen wakeup...

Sentinel196 said:
Check here
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really cool. i'll use that now...

cylent said:
and yet these responses are expected. oh well. thanks anyhow..
but still though i wanted to know if anyone is experiencing slowdowns on ROMS like the 2/4 sec delay and during screen wakeup...
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This has also been covered a hundred times in each ROM's thread and does not belong in the development forum.
Check here

Try MDJ FroYo Revolution 2.3

cylent said:
and yet these responses are expected. oh well. thanks anyhow..
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Well if you was expecting these responses you should have anticipated that we would say..
a) Post in the correct section, you are not a dev and this topic is not development.
b) Dont post silly topics, "good", "best", "stable" etc etc etc are all subjective terms and differs from device to device and person to person, go try some roms and make your own decision like we do.

cylent said:
hi guys. so in the last few days i've been messing around with Android/NAND and i have to say somethings are still problematic...
my main rom that i tried which somewhat worked great (and even had arabic files for it) is the HD2 CoreDroid DHD V1 ROM. This is a great ROM however its very very sluggish and slow at booting/doing anything ... it is a nightmare to wake up the HD2 when its in sleep and there are these two to four seconds of "pausing" it has. [edit: i am starting to blame the Class 4 8GB microSD here. i'll have to change it and report]
so i got bored and decided what the he** let me try WP7... i have to say WP7 with its limitations is very smooth on the HD2.. the animations which i wish the android has are really smooth and fluid.
this is not to say i am sticking wp7 on my beloved hd2.. i am just asking the most basic questions here:
Can I find a ROM thats quick, supports the arabic libskia* files or has them compiled to work and still be quick?
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I have been trying the MDJ's CyanogenMod 7 v. 2.6. It works great and it boots automaticaly once you turn the phone on. Please see thread below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877777
Hope it helps.

24hrsdeals said:
...it boots automaticaly once you turn the phone on.
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All NAND builds do, even WP7. It's a setting in magldr (menu or boot NAND/SD). Or am I not understanding what you're getting at?

[Q] Done to death but still one last time -Which NAND would be the best for HD2

hi ,
I am pretty sure that your guys are tried of topics like these already but i dont know where else to go . Can you guys please help me figure out which NAND android Rom would be the best suitable for me?
this is what i need my phone to do :
*use it as an everyday rom so has to be pretty stable.
* need normal phone operations working e.g - GPS, Bluetooth, texting,dialing,speaker phone, wifi,camera,video camera,flash
*want flash,swype ,app2sd,internet tethering with usb and wifi hotspot and of course the android market app.
*A somewhat fast rom , and need to be able install and use apps from the sd card. live wallpapers would be cool but not a necessity.
Again in advance I am really sorry if i came across as smug or needy or ignorant or not willing to use the search feature.That was not my intention , read a lot of posts here and there forums and all different kind of roms are only confusing me further.Thats why i registered and decided to write this post.I'll post this at XDA as well hope i get some help .
again thats in advance and sorry if my post was annoying, just trying to learn.

hi.
probably hundreds to choose from ,but the one in my sig works well for me and pretty much covers the things you're after

Look no further
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=926507

depends whether you want with or without "sense"
core droid has sense
tytung does not

Most of the things you outlined like GPS etc. work on every ROM now.

which flavor of ice cream is the best?

mini_robot said:
which flavor of ice cream is the best?
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Strawberry chessecake. ;D

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which flavor of ice cream is the best?
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dont like ice cream

Why not read one of the existing threads about which build is best and base your decision from that? Just so you know, there is no right and wrong answer. Just because I like Hispanic chicks, with fat #$%$# doesn't mean you have to like Hispanic chicks with fat #$^#$.

Really??? What I do is read the entire build thread usually there are one to four pages about each build on each indivisual ROM. This is where you are going to obtain information about the ROM itself. Then download one, hell download 10 try them out. I am personally a fan of the Desire ROM's.

akapaul26 said:
Really??? What I do is read the entire build thread usually there are one to four pages about each build on each indivisual ROM. This is where you are going to obtain information about the ROM itself. Then download one, hell download 10 try them out. I am personally a fan of the Desire ROM's.
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There is no way you can expect a Guy to come in here and read all the build threads in their entirety, and I also find it hard to believe you do. Just recommend the Guy a solid nand rom, I would but I'm only running SD builds with wp7 on nand
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

anap40 said:
There is no way you can expect a Guy to come in here and read all the build threads in their entirety, and I also find it hard to believe you do. Just recommend the Guy a solid nand rom, I would but I'm only running SD builds with wp7 on nand
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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I HAVE and do read the entire build thread on the ones I am interested in, doing so is a good idea. Again this is where you get the information about the build. It is only going to take 5-10 minutes to read through an entire developers first post (1-4 pages max) So lets see, if you read through 12 builds at 5 minutes you have only invested an hour of time and gained a lot of knowledge. Most builds take about 30 minutes to download so while you are downloading ONE build you can educate yourself on at least 5 other builds you might be interested in. Some builds I start reading turn me off right away, those I dont bother going back too. Also if you are too lazy to read through a build then you are probably going to install it wrong and spend double the amount of time it should of taken. I AM JUST SAYING!
TO THE OP:
I like desire builds:
Currently using this build
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976384&page=15
Love this one too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915159&page=323

anap40 said:
There is no way you can expect a Guy to come in here and read all the build threads in their entirety, and I also find it hard to believe you do. Just recommend the Guy a solid nand rom, I would but I'm only running SD builds with wp7 on nand
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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I'm not saying i have read every single thread in relation to a certain build that i may have flashed on my phone but ive read a lot on here and have flashed a lot, no interest in WINMO anymore although i used to especially like the NRG ROM's also Laurentius but as regards Android until such time a stable Honeycomb build comes about ill stick with Sergio Coredroid it is IMO the best there is, i must give a mention to previous builds ive had which were excellent like Darkstones NAND SUPERAM,exceptionally fast but discontinued, also MDJ, Xboarder and Rafpigna but Sergio's is for me no 1.

I used what is called ...."most stable" froyo 2.2 . GPS dont work.

anap40 said:
There is no way you can expect a Guy to come in here and read all the build threads in their entirety, and I also find it hard to believe you do. Just recommend the Guy a solid nand rom, I would but I'm only running SD builds with wp7 on nand
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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I've read the first, and last five pages of almost every NAND build thread. He needs to do what we did, and install different builds until he finds one that suits his needs. Like it's been said a thousand times, just because I like hispanic chicks doesn't mean he's going to like Hispanic chicks.
Plus, he could have opened one of the numerous, "what rom is best?" threads and gotten the same answer he would have gotten here.
It also makes me laugh that you're calling buddy a liar. If you're so concerned with the OP getting a solid build, then why don't you toss the SD version, install all of the NAND builds, and turn in an essay about which build is best?

WorldWide60 said:
I've read the first, and last five pages of almost every NAND build thread. He needs to do what we did, and install different builds until he finds one that suits his needs. Like it's been said a thousand times, just because I like hispanic chicks doesn't mean he's going to like Hispanic chicks.
Plus, he could have opened one of the numerous, "what rom is best?" threads and gotten the same answer he would have gotten here.
It also makes me laugh that you're calling buddy a liar. If you're so concerned with the OP getting a solid build, then why don't you toss the SD version, install all of the NAND builds, and turn in an essay about which build is best?
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That's what I'm talking about, great post, for that you get a thanks!!!

akapaul26 said:
That's what I'm talking about, great post, for that you get a thanks!!!
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No problem bro. LOL @ the guy calling you a liar. Some people amaze me.

seriously guys , my intention was not to create a problem.I am not lazy either, i have done my fair share of reading but you have to understand for a guy who has no idea about linux or android ( except that its a kickass software for phones) all the information out there could be a little overwhelming.I didn't read quiet a few" which rom is the best " and they all confused me even more .The most prevalent answers those pots got was a lot a bashing with some " every rom is different , pick one that suits your needs" . Thats why when i started my thread i specifically mentions what i "desired" from the rom.I am really confused about the phone now. Some people on other forums are saying that since HD2 wasn't made for Android you would't get a stable rom for everyday use it is sure to mess up.Its posts like these that are confusing me even more and i am actually thinking about returning the phone and take the easy route of getting a samsung Vibrant.
again thanks for all the guys who mentioned their roms and the ones thats tried to help .honestly just because someone is asking a question doest mean that they were lazy and didnt read anything . If i didn't read anything then i would't have known about NAND .
PS: i love hispanic chicks with huge @%%^ too. Infact i love them all with huge )*##*#

anap40 said:
There is no way you can expect a Guy to come in here and read all the build threads in their entirety, and I also find it hard to believe you do. Just recommend the Guy a solid nand rom, I would but I'm only running SD builds with wp7 on nand
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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you know what
thank you

[Q] Just got a HD2, where to start?

So, I just got a stock hd2 with winmo 6.5 and would like to install wp7 can somebody please explain how I can do this.

Android is better, but it's your mind.
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nac3Fnf-lY4&noredirect=1
FAQ in RUS, nothing terrible, juct read: http://w7phone.ru/ustanovka-windows-phone-mango-na-htc-hd2-47917/

First of all for new users, as i was a new user, i recommend read carefully about flashing your hd2, find all info here in xda, because you can really can mess up your phone. There is things that you can do, and you cannot. So be patient, and study how to flash everything, ant then start to do
like they say measure 9times before you cut...

To much trouble with win7... flash android the get a win7 launcher
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WP7 is a lot of work in to install and you can have several issues related to battery life, SD card compatibility, and how even a compatible SD card can effect battery life. That said, I prefer WP7 to Android for aesthetic reasons.
The ROM is use is here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1236027
If you go this route, I recommend the 7004-7720 one-shot upgrade. The whole guide is in the second post, and there are other, more better explanations, to help the tutorial make sense. I had to use the those ones first.
When you succeed in installing WP7, you can also dual boot Android from SD. That comes with its own set of issues, as Android runs best from NAND.
So... which would you like to try first? So long as you flash HSPL correctly, and the correct radio, it's actually really hard to brick your device.

I must agree with everybody, beleave us... android vs windows is 3times more speed with any aplication, browsing, photos, music everything works more than 3xtimes faster... go with gingerbread android... trust me you will be suprised how fast it its...

poisas said:
I must agree with everybody, beleave us... android vs windows is 3times more speed with any aplication, browsing, photos, music everything works more than 3xtimes faster... go with gingerbread android... trust me you will be suprised how fast it its...
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I'm not sure that's a fully accurate statement, or there wouldn't be a bunch of us using WP7 on the HD2. It's just a bit more complicated to get going and can have major issues related to SD cards. Mine is quite fast. I very much prefer the UI to Android, but there are things I prefer Android over WP7 for.
Regardless, it's hard to brick the HD2, provided HSPL and correct radio are flashed. There's no reason to not try either and see which meets the OP's personal preference.

Only take 4 simple steps to load android

kompheak said:
Only take 4 simple steps to load android
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That's not the point! Ugh!!!

Lol... hows that not the point?

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Lol... hows that not the point?
Read the original post:
streakau said:
So, I just got a stock hd2 with winmo 6.5 and would like to install wp7 can somebody please explain how I can do this.
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He's asking about WP7 and all you guys are doing is saying that Android is better/easier to install. That's not the point and doesn't answer the question. If you can't give feedback about the WP7 installation process, then why are you even posting here?
We all know that Android is "better", more versatile, easier to run. That's not even up for debate. So, why are you trying to convince him not to do something he wants to do. The HD2 is one of the most hackable phones around and it's hard to brick. Why not try WP7, Android, or both? Geesh!

[Q] some advice pls

hi guys.
So i have wp 7.5 nand and im kinda getting bored of it even though its stability is amazing(also speed) and i have android on my sd but all theses sd roms arent that satisfying so i am considering moving to android nand.
ive seen many nand roms that look amazing and my question is if i install nand on it will it be the same as a native android device (speed, stability,.battery etc...)
and do u think i should do that change?
if yes then please recommend some roms with eachs specialty
thanks
Note: i install many apps like 200+ thats why sd builds never agree with me, so also consider that(i have searched, watched videos but...)
thanks again

no one???

walidhazem said:
no one???
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look around. No one answers these threads, especially when you ask for detailed analys of each roms specialities. ALL the roms are the best. If there were a best rom we'd all be using it.
As for android on band, yes its comparable to a real android device. Better than many, in fact.

Thx
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walidhazem said:
hi guys.
So i have wp 7.5 nand and im kinda getting bored of it even though its stability is amazing(also speed) and i have android on my sd but all theses sd roms arent that satisfying so i am considering moving to android nand.
ive seen many nand roms that look amazing and my question is if i install nand on it will it be the same as a native android device (speed, stability,.battery etc...)
and do u think i should do that change?
if yes then please recommend some roms with eachs specialty
thanks
Note: i install many apps like 200+ thats why sd builds never agree with me, so also consider that(i have searched, watched videos but...)
thanks again
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If you have the US model, the NRG NAND is working well for me. It will not be as fast as the newest devices, but it is quite usable.

stevedebi said:
If you have the US model, the NRG NAND is working well for me. It will not be as fast as the newest devices, but it is quite usable.
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thx for you reply

it took me well over a year to get my HD2 from WM6.5 to android, now im running a beta version of android 4.0.1 its great.
i suggest you really look into it to begin with, if you do decide to do it i would get the HTC HD2 TOOL Kit, and a CustomRUU from DFT to initially hack the device, these where the things that took me a few go's to figure it out, and youtube is great for advice
hope t helps mate good luck

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256581
I have been trying 20+ roms. This one is pretty fast.
I install plenty apps, and this rom does not slow down. It is as fast as the wm rom.
Sense 2.1 looks old but it is perfect for our "older " phone. With this rom I have fully working Wi-Fi tethering. It is not build in the rom, but I can make it work

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it took me well over a year to get my HD2 from WM6.5 to android, now im running a beta version of android 4.0.1 its great.
i suggest you really look into it to begin with, if you do decide to do it i would get the HTC HD2 TOOL Kit, and a CustomRUU from DFT to initially hack the device, these where the things that took me a few go's to figure it out, and youtube is great for advice
hope t helps mate good luck
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The second post of the NRG thread has a great explanation of how to install.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17584373&postcount=4

It really comes down to personal taste, between cm7, sense, aosp, etc...
But android has come along way on nand and in some cases outperforms alot of phones(this is a 2yr old device but still a beast ;-) ) but just try a few roms and choose one. Grab the hd2 toolkit for your system partions and cwm, and off you go!!
Good luck!
Ps. I personally use tyungs nexushd2 rom
Its just pure awesome gingerbread
sent from my HTC NexusHD2 provided by Tytung