Hey guys,
I've been running android via SD card on my HD2. I love it, but its a little laggy and I've been running into bug with data (TMOUS) cutting in and out. I've tried quite a few different WinMO roms and versions of android.
My question is how would NAND android suit me? Would it run a little bit faster and be a little more stable? As well, would battery life be a little bit better?
Once I do NAND, am I able to reverse things back to WinMO if I wanted to?
If someone can explain this and possibly provide a link to some information that would be great. I'm unable to find what I need on the search.
Thanks for the help and sorry for the noob question. I'm kinda new to this and I'm still trying to figure things out. I've done several PSPs before, but never a phone. Hopefully once I get the basics down I can handle the rest.
Thanks for the help
Look in android development forum - there is a newbie guide stickied
Hey there. Before anyone else gets you... The search button is our friend. This has been answered. However, in my opinion: Running Android on nand is less taxing on the ram, microsd card and the battery on your phone. This also makes android much more stable.
To go back to Windows Mobile you can flash a stock rom... To do this search the forums and you will find your answer.
If you still need more help post back and I'll give you a hand.
~Romey~
cd78 said:
Look in android development forum - there is a newbie guide stickied
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Found it thanks
tigermaster21703 said:
Hey there. Before anyone else gets you... The search button is our friend. This has been answered. However, in my opinion: Running Android on nand is less taxing on the ram, microsd card and the battery on your phone. This also makes android much more stable.
To go back to Windows Mobile you can flash a stock rom... To do this search the forums and you will find your answer.
If you still need more help post back and I'll give you a hand.
~Romey~
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Thanks Romey. I found some of the info and I'm going to give it a shot. I'll post my success / failure when I'm done.
broknindarkagain said:
Hey guys,
I've been running android via SD card on my HD2. I love it, but its a little laggy and I've been running into bug with data (TMOUS) cutting in and out. I've tried quite a few different WinMO roms and versions of android.
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if it's laggy then you haven't tried RAM builds or there's something wrong with your phone/sd card.
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if it's laggy then you haven't tried RAM builds or there's something wrong with your phone/sd card.
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No I have not done any RAM builds. Just SD. Its not terribly laggy, but it feels like it should be faster.
I just finished putting a NAND flavor of Android on my phone. No brick for me! yay
Everything seems to be working well so far and its blazing fast with no lag
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction
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Hello all-
I am new to the forum and have followed the forum for only about a week.
I am planning to buy 2 new HD2's from T-Mobile today again, when I say again I mean I bought 2 when they first came out and like most I cried at the disappointment of WinMo 6.5 and returned them almost immediately. I hoped and dreamed of Android on the HD2, and here we are! Thank you for all that has worked on this.
I do need help with the following questions;
Can some one link me to the latest Android 2.2 Froyo version for HD2?
Once installed is it always going to run off of the SD Card?
If so does this negatively affect the battery life?
Does the functionality of HotSpot work?
I know I will have more questions but I do appreciate your help everyone!
Can some one link me to the latest Android 2.2 Froyo version for HD2?
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All of the new builds run Android 2.2, the easiest way to find them is here.
Once installed is it always going to run off of the SD Card?
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Yes, until MAGLDR (the NAND boot) is released publically.
If so does this negatively affect the battery life?
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It does. I could explain more but I'll let someone else do that.
Does the functionality of HotSpot work?
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Yes.
PS: Wrong section.
Well answered, I would add that power consumption tends to be a bit particular to a variety of set ups, windows rom, kernel, etc. so no simple answer.
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I want to keep this as simple as possible...
Why is there so many different versions?
Is there a version grading system here?
Which version comes to be the highest recommended in the FROYO world?
There's no rating system as it's subjective. You may like something that other people don't and ratings would become skewed. The best thing you can do is read the first couple of posts from a build thread, and if you like what you see give it a shot.
And there are so many different versions because there's lots of different ways to build Android...
Stock
Sense
CyanogenMod
MIUI
DesireHD based
Desire Z based
Nexus One based
Evo 4G based
and probably more I cannot think of right now. Each one caters to a slightly different person, and it's up to you to find one you like.
if you dont know much about android just go with a cyanogen6 build. anything that says CM6 or CM6.1 is good. try the one by infinitybiff. simple, solid, and very very fast.
you cant go wrong.
and you can always load multiple builds on your SD card(search how to rename android folder and edit name is startup.txt)
so you can have like 10 different builds on one SD card. all ready to go.
play around find what you like, and for gods sake do not post threads in development.
hi guys. so in the last few days i've been messing around with Android/NAND and i have to say somethings are still problematic...
my main rom that i tried which somewhat worked great (and even had arabic files for it) is the HD2 CoreDroid DHD V1 ROM. This is a great ROM however its very very sluggish and slow at booting/doing anything ... it is a nightmare to wake up the HD2 when its in sleep and there are these two to four seconds of "pausing" it has. [edit: i am starting to blame the Class 4 8GB microSD here. i'll have to change it and report]
so i got bored and decided what the he** let me try WP7... i have to say WP7 with its limitations is very smooth on the HD2.. the animations which i wish the android has are really smooth and fluid.
this is not to say i am sticking wp7 on my beloved hd2.. i am just asking the most basic questions here:
Can I find a ROM thats quick, supports the arabic libskia* files or has them compiled to work and still be quick?
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Wrong Section bro.
Theres plenty of fast roms around here... try some out like all of us.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=928
You can find all the nice roms in the above link!
Better, don't create this kind of threads, search-download-test and choose on your own!
Good luck!
Try Dandiest rom in SD Android section, I think it supports Arabic .... as you want to run wm7 along with Android, right?
and yet these responses are expected. oh well. thanks anyhow..
but still though i wanted to know if anyone is experiencing slowdowns on ROMS like the 2/4 sec delay and during screen wakeup...
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Check here
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really cool. i'll use that now...
cylent said:
and yet these responses are expected. oh well. thanks anyhow..
but still though i wanted to know if anyone is experiencing slowdowns on ROMS like the 2/4 sec delay and during screen wakeup...
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This has also been covered a hundred times in each ROM's thread and does not belong in the development forum.
Check here
Try MDJ FroYo Revolution 2.3
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and yet these responses are expected. oh well. thanks anyhow..
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Well if you was expecting these responses you should have anticipated that we would say..
a) Post in the correct section, you are not a dev and this topic is not development.
b) Dont post silly topics, "good", "best", "stable" etc etc etc are all subjective terms and differs from device to device and person to person, go try some roms and make your own decision like we do.
cylent said:
hi guys. so in the last few days i've been messing around with Android/NAND and i have to say somethings are still problematic...
my main rom that i tried which somewhat worked great (and even had arabic files for it) is the HD2 CoreDroid DHD V1 ROM. This is a great ROM however its very very sluggish and slow at booting/doing anything ... it is a nightmare to wake up the HD2 when its in sleep and there are these two to four seconds of "pausing" it has. [edit: i am starting to blame the Class 4 8GB microSD here. i'll have to change it and report]
so i got bored and decided what the he** let me try WP7... i have to say WP7 with its limitations is very smooth on the HD2.. the animations which i wish the android has are really smooth and fluid.
this is not to say i am sticking wp7 on my beloved hd2.. i am just asking the most basic questions here:
Can I find a ROM thats quick, supports the arabic libskia* files or has them compiled to work and still be quick?
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I have been trying the MDJ's CyanogenMod 7 v. 2.6. It works great and it boots automaticaly once you turn the phone on. Please see thread below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877777
Hope it helps.
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...it boots automaticaly once you turn the phone on.
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All NAND builds do, even WP7. It's a setting in magldr (menu or boot NAND/SD). Or am I not understanding what you're getting at?
By new I dont mean iv just bought it I mean I have not flashed it or loaded any new ROMS on it.
What would be the nicest Operating System and ROM be to read up on, Im a complete nOOb unfortunately so i just want to be gently pushed in the right direction for the reading material which I know is always the first point of action.
I have seen a youtube video showing off the Gingerbread 2.3 system on android and wanted to know your thoughts. I mainly use the phone for watching vids, text, email, googlemaps, facebook and sportypal.
Thanks for any help you wish to put forward to me
I guess you´ll have to find out yourself.
If you don´t like the "native" Windows Mobile with Sense on your HD2, the only option which includes Google Maps is definitely Android.
There are so many choices on this side... why don´t you start using some SD builds of Android, which you can use for trials with Android, as a second OS next to Windows Mobile? This way, you could have the "best of both worlds".
In a next step, you could move completely to Android with a NAND build.
Why dont you first try a SD version of Android first.
Assuming you have Windows Mobile currently and a SD card
1) Download this zip file --> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1W38WURX
2)Extract the folder Android to your memory card.
3)On your phone go to the folder Android which has all the files extracted
4)Run CLRAD.exe and then HARET.exe and your phone will go into the Android OS
thanks to both posters above this is exactly what I wanted to hear, I know all about this question being one that the regulars hate but Iv tried doing searches but when you dont know what your searching for its kinda hard, I think Im reading up on the right stuff now cheers
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In a next step, you could move completely to Android with a NAND build.
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To be honest, you don't even need to change to NAND. I haven't bothered (yes, I'm a noob too), but I'm extremely happy with AmeriCanAndroid on SD. Decent battery life (apparently NAND is better, but I personally think it is good enough on SD), extremely smooth and stable Android 2.3.4 OS, and I can always go back to WinMo at any time (although why would you possibly want to do that )
+1 to all above. SD ROMs are good for testing and some for a daily driver. If you decide you want only Android like many of us... go to NAND later. The speed, performance, everything is amazing on a device 1.5 years old. I run EVERYTHING on my NAND ROMs with no lag (CM or MiUi).
Sense never ran well for me. No biggie since I'll be getting a Sense 3.0 overdose soon.
yeah Im going to just run it from the SD and see how i get on, just looking to see which ROM I prefer, looking at jaguar miui, it gets good remarks in the thread from users,,, a quick question If I use the SD card to run the ROM will i still be able to use the MP3s from the same SD card? probably a stupid question
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yeah Im going to just run it from the SD and see how i get on, just looking to see which ROM I prefer, looking at jaguar miui, it gets good remarks in the thread from users,,, a quick question If I use the SD card to run the ROM will i still be able to use the MP3s from the same SD card? probably a stupid question
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Ninhydrin said:
yeah Im going to just run it from the SD and see how i get on, just looking to see which ROM I prefer, looking at jaguar miui, it gets good remarks in the thread from users,,, a quick question If I use the SD card to run the ROM will i still be able to use the MP3s from the same SD card? probably a stupid question
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MiUi is personally my favorite ROM. Even if you took away all the eyecandy stuff MiUi is great at, I still think I would run it over CM. And I love CM.
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MiUi is personally my favorite ROM. Even if you took away all the eyecandy stuff MiUi is great at, I still think I would run it over CM. And I love CM.
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MIUI sucks for it imitates the iPoop
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MIUI sucks for it imitates the iPoop
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I never tried it for a long time because of comments like that. I tested it out because I always thought it looked girly and would be great on my woman's phone. Was a long time CM user but after two hours with MiUi I missed nothing from CM and actually found myself loving features that I didn't seem to get with CM.
I don't care if MiUi imitates a steaming pile of poop... the fact is it has so much functionality, so much eyecandy, and it NEVER lags for me. So fast and I run with everything turned on and power-use my HD2 like you wouldn't believe.
I still love CM and probably always will recommend it... but I get bored with it but not with MiUi.
My experience!?
If you ever flash your phone with android you would never go back to windows.
I have my HD2 since over one year and changed the OS two weeks ago. It is never more usefull with all this available apps.
A big thanks to all developers here, they make a great job cooking their roms and share with us.
cheers
So, I just got a stock hd2 with winmo 6.5 and would like to install wp7 can somebody please explain how I can do this.
Android is better, but it's your mind.
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nac3Fnf-lY4&noredirect=1
FAQ in RUS, nothing terrible, juct read: http://w7phone.ru/ustanovka-windows-phone-mango-na-htc-hd2-47917/
First of all for new users, as i was a new user, i recommend read carefully about flashing your hd2, find all info here in xda, because you can really can mess up your phone. There is things that you can do, and you cannot. So be patient, and study how to flash everything, ant then start to do
like they say measure 9times before you cut...
To much trouble with win7... flash android the get a win7 launcher
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WP7 is a lot of work in to install and you can have several issues related to battery life, SD card compatibility, and how even a compatible SD card can effect battery life. That said, I prefer WP7 to Android for aesthetic reasons.
The ROM is use is here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1236027
If you go this route, I recommend the 7004-7720 one-shot upgrade. The whole guide is in the second post, and there are other, more better explanations, to help the tutorial make sense. I had to use the those ones first.
When you succeed in installing WP7, you can also dual boot Android from SD. That comes with its own set of issues, as Android runs best from NAND.
So... which would you like to try first? So long as you flash HSPL correctly, and the correct radio, it's actually really hard to brick your device.
I must agree with everybody, beleave us... android vs windows is 3times more speed with any aplication, browsing, photos, music everything works more than 3xtimes faster... go with gingerbread android... trust me you will be suprised how fast it its...
poisas said:
I must agree with everybody, beleave us... android vs windows is 3times more speed with any aplication, browsing, photos, music everything works more than 3xtimes faster... go with gingerbread android... trust me you will be suprised how fast it its...
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I'm not sure that's a fully accurate statement, or there wouldn't be a bunch of us using WP7 on the HD2. It's just a bit more complicated to get going and can have major issues related to SD cards. Mine is quite fast. I very much prefer the UI to Android, but there are things I prefer Android over WP7 for.
Regardless, it's hard to brick the HD2, provided HSPL and correct radio are flashed. There's no reason to not try either and see which meets the OP's personal preference.
Only take 4 simple steps to load android
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Only take 4 simple steps to load android
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That's not the point! Ugh!!!
Lol... hows that not the point?
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Lol... hows that not the point?
Read the original post:
streakau said:
So, I just got a stock hd2 with winmo 6.5 and would like to install wp7 can somebody please explain how I can do this.
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He's asking about WP7 and all you guys are doing is saying that Android is better/easier to install. That's not the point and doesn't answer the question. If you can't give feedback about the WP7 installation process, then why are you even posting here?
We all know that Android is "better", more versatile, easier to run. That's not even up for debate. So, why are you trying to convince him not to do something he wants to do. The HD2 is one of the most hackable phones around and it's hard to brick. Why not try WP7, Android, or both? Geesh!
hi guys.
So i have wp 7.5 nand and im kinda getting bored of it even though its stability is amazing(also speed) and i have android on my sd but all theses sd roms arent that satisfying so i am considering moving to android nand.
ive seen many nand roms that look amazing and my question is if i install nand on it will it be the same as a native android device (speed, stability,.battery etc...)
and do u think i should do that change?
if yes then please recommend some roms with eachs specialty
thanks
Note: i install many apps like 200+ thats why sd builds never agree with me, so also consider that(i have searched, watched videos but...)
thanks again
no one???
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no one???
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look around. No one answers these threads, especially when you ask for detailed analys of each roms specialities. ALL the roms are the best. If there were a best rom we'd all be using it.
As for android on band, yes its comparable to a real android device. Better than many, in fact.
Thx
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walidhazem said:
hi guys.
So i have wp 7.5 nand and im kinda getting bored of it even though its stability is amazing(also speed) and i have android on my sd but all theses sd roms arent that satisfying so i am considering moving to android nand.
ive seen many nand roms that look amazing and my question is if i install nand on it will it be the same as a native android device (speed, stability,.battery etc...)
and do u think i should do that change?
if yes then please recommend some roms with eachs specialty
thanks
Note: i install many apps like 200+ thats why sd builds never agree with me, so also consider that(i have searched, watched videos but...)
thanks again
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If you have the US model, the NRG NAND is working well for me. It will not be as fast as the newest devices, but it is quite usable.
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If you have the US model, the NRG NAND is working well for me. It will not be as fast as the newest devices, but it is quite usable.
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thx for you reply
it took me well over a year to get my HD2 from WM6.5 to android, now im running a beta version of android 4.0.1 its great.
i suggest you really look into it to begin with, if you do decide to do it i would get the HTC HD2 TOOL Kit, and a CustomRUU from DFT to initially hack the device, these where the things that took me a few go's to figure it out, and youtube is great for advice
hope t helps mate good luck
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256581
I have been trying 20+ roms. This one is pretty fast.
I install plenty apps, and this rom does not slow down. It is as fast as the wm rom.
Sense 2.1 looks old but it is perfect for our "older " phone. With this rom I have fully working Wi-Fi tethering. It is not build in the rom, but I can make it work
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it took me well over a year to get my HD2 from WM6.5 to android, now im running a beta version of android 4.0.1 its great.
i suggest you really look into it to begin with, if you do decide to do it i would get the HTC HD2 TOOL Kit, and a CustomRUU from DFT to initially hack the device, these where the things that took me a few go's to figure it out, and youtube is great for advice
hope t helps mate good luck
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The second post of the NRG thread has a great explanation of how to install.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17584373&postcount=4
It really comes down to personal taste, between cm7, sense, aosp, etc...
But android has come along way on nand and in some cases outperforms alot of phones(this is a 2yr old device but still a beast ;-) ) but just try a few roms and choose one. Grab the hd2 toolkit for your system partions and cwm, and off you go!!
Good luck!
Ps. I personally use tyungs nexushd2 rom
Its just pure awesome gingerbread
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