HI!
Trying to decide which phone to get, narrowed between the optimus 7 and the motorola defy. The motorola has earpiece problems, and the one I was leaning to the optimus 7 has shut off problems. I'm a phone in the pocket kind of guy and don't want problems, how many of you are having no problems vs those that have them? Would you buy this phone again? Any other issues I should be aware of? I mainly want it for a phone 1st, though I would be interested in mp3 comments. All comments appreciated, thanks for your time. Dave
I personally would go for some other WP7 device. The only problem I have with the Optimus 7 is that it randomly shuts down.
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I personally would go for some other WP7 device. The only problem I have with the Optimus 7 is that it randomly shuts down.
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Just for the record, I have never seen my optimus 7 randomly shutdown. So it may be an isolated issue.
Edit: I wanted to add that I would choose a WP7 device over just about any Android device 100% of the time.
i love my optimus 7. great phone. and never shuts down randomly. only when batery is 0%.
Absolutly,
I have a nook color that I put CM7 on, and while I enjoy it and use it every and have had it for a lot longer than my phone, I find myself trying to do things that I can do on my phone that just don't .... I don't know how to say it other than just doesn't work right.
Even in the browser, I still like the stock IE over the Dolphin HD on my nook.
The only thing I might change in my next phone is to get the Titan, I would like a bigger screen (personal preferance), but the LG has been great so far. Really like the fact that it has gorillia glass and I don't need a screen protector and that it holds together and looks brand new even though I drop it all the darn time.
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I personally would go for some other WP7 device. The only problem I have with the Optimus 7 is that it randomly shuts down.
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Never happened to me. My phone rebooted itself some time, but thats gone with mango
optimus 7 is average phone. its heavy, non standard-size (you won't find any cover that fits), those analogic buttons I don't like, and no standard internal-SD.
on the good side it has gorilla glass, 16GB.
I think, its faster than an HTC trophy and the metro interface runs much smoother.
I won't buy a WP7 any more, I only bought it because it was very cheap, 200€ instead of 450€
Yip, never had any problems with mine. I bought 2 for my parents for christmas presents!
XxAndrexX said:
optimus 7 is average phone. its heavy, non standard-size (you won't find any cover that fits), those analogic buttons I don't like, and no standard internal-SD.
on the good side it has gorilla glass, 16GB.
I think, its faster than an HTC trophy and the metro interface runs much smoother.
I won't buy a WP7 any more, I only bought it because it was very cheap, 200€ instead of 450€
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I agree that the phone is average, by smartphone spec standards, but like you said its faster than many comparable devices, and WP7 makes it just about faster than any Android device. Heavy - yes. As to the SD storage, swamping cards is not truly supported by WP7. I understand the analog buttons are a personal preference, but I like not having to worry about accidental key touches and swipes taking me out of an application with sensitive capacitive buttons.
I forgot to say that the Optimus 7 speaker has one of the worst speakers I ever faced in a mobile phone...
For the price I paid (£120) I guess I would.
Only real negatives are the visual quality of the screen, camera isn't up to much and speaker is kinda crap.
Windows Phone yes, LG no.
In Italy is sold for 149€... I paid 250 but i have no regrets. The only cons for me is the battery, a little bit under the others wp7.
In a year i have saw only three or four random resets. Not a huge problem if you know the boot time: 20 secs.
16GB memory, very nice physical buttons, with the possiblity that there is a Wolfson inside it (Wolfson has a deal with LG to supply audio codec processors for the Optimus phones, not sure if the Optimus 7 has it). Plenty to like about it.
Thanks to everyone who replied, the feedback is much appreciated. I am now leaning towards the defy, mainly 'cause I think it's size and weight will make it a better pocket phone. Thanks again, Dave
If this discussion is still open, I would like to add my voice.
Personally I would never buy this phone again.
WP7 is good looking OS, but has many disadvantages now. It is very new and does not have many functions as typical smartphone have, like full bluetooth support.
LG phone has nice design, but have also some issues, like battery life time.
Only Windows Mobile, MAMEMO and maybe Symbian have full Bluetooth stacks unfortunately. It seems full Bluetooth never really made it into the modern smartphone OS's. That being said I am sure that the flexibility of Android allows for additions to the stack, but they still don't support all the protocols that smartphones of the past had.
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I quite like the LG as it holds its own against many of the v1 WP7 phones, and has better storage and battery life than many. I prefer the real buttons too, and no probably with the screen apart from it being too bright to read in bed. You can get Gel covers for it which make it a nice sturdy phone for taking out and about thats capable of taking a knock or two. And the low 2nd hand price because it isn't shiny-shiny enough for the fashionistas or phone thieves means its great value for money. The Jil Sanders version with a slightly tweaked case (more plastic but less weight, USB flap easier to open, less garish camera surround) is currently being sold off half price at Expansys so continues that value theme.
Just wanted to add in, i'm a long time windows 6/6.1 user, and i'd buy another of these in a heartbeat.
infact I was tempted to buy that Jill Sanders version for my g/f, was on offer for £149 delivered but i forget what site.
I don't get the negative issues, Initially I wasn't too impressed but after 2 weeks i'd never go back to winmo 6.1, I personally dislike andriod, to slow and clumsy feeling for me. iOS just doesn't make sense to me either.
For those who say the camera is bad, its a phone, the outdoor shots i've taken are pretty amazing, the inside not so great, which is true of all digital cameras i've ever used, and the fact its got a flash that can be used like a torch as its not a xeon is a big plus for me.
Compared to a friends HTC Mozart (which cost twice the price) to me the Pro's of the the LG phone, longer battery life, nicer physical size, physical buttons (I know its user preference, but after 3 months his buttons have stopped responding, personally i've always had trouble at some point with touch buttons, but thats me being picky!) 16gb, seriously, do you need more than 16gb on a phone? this was the real seller for me, I have 10gb free space with quite a few apps including the 2gb+ navigon satnav.
Sure you can't upgrade the storage, but compared to most which have 8gb i'd say its pretty fair.
I'm also loving the wifi internet sharing, coming from previous winmo devices i've always found the connection just drops out randomly, but with this stays rock solid for hours. (not internet in work other than phone!)
My biggest issue with the phone is the battery, it seems no matter what features you turn off it seems to last the same with the features turned on, i'm not sure if this is a wp7 issue or a handset issue
WP7 for Sure
I would stick with WP7 for sure... I would even buy the LG E900h again compared to the options here in Canada. Samsung Focus, LG Optimus 7, HTC Surround
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I have been considering the jump from Android to WP7 and was wondering if the Trophy was the best all round device. I was considering the LG but it doesn't seem to get as much interest on here compared to other WP7 devices plus I am not all that convinced by LG. As to the Omnia 7, having owned the original GS I am not all that sold on super AMOLED screens. As for the Mozart well that I might consider, if only it was sold SIM free in the UK.
Actualy, hardware wise, all wp7 models are outdated. Take the HD2 and you have the basic windows phone. The Trophy is the cheapest model and considering the fixed hardware base, it's a winner. The screen is big enough, the perfect size for a phone. The build quallity is excellent, the materials too. Buttons are easy to pres. You get all the basics.
The screen, talking about the latest models, is a S-LCD, not the best black on the market by far, some ghosting effect is here to be seen too, but the touch is very responsive. Brightness is allright in dark places and on direct sunlight the phone is still usable. Battery is not the strongest point here, compared to the HD7, but a full day of use is what you get. With moderate use you go for 2 days without a problem. GPS connectivity is almost instant in open areas.
One problem with all HTC phones is the "internal storage" and the lack of the accessable SD Card slot. So with 8gb of space you are what limited. If you have in mind to expand the Trophy, you have a moderate level of difficulty when opening it. The Mozart is the hardest one, the HD7 is the easyest, you can change the card there with absolutelly no traces or warranty void.
Performance wise everything is the same, exept the difference in write speeds on the SD Card compared to other brands like Samsung. HTC are using Sandisk Class 4 cards but they are not very fast somehow. ( i have a class 2 card in mine atm. and i cannot find a difference , if not faster it's the same for me )
Last but not least is the price. The Trophy can be found for 180-200 EUR, a device with enough power in a very low price tag. I thing that with mango on the horizont the Trophy will become a very tasty product.
It's a personal decision, but i recommend the phone after using it for a month and comparing it to other HTC and Samsung devices on the market.
Thanks for your feedback on it. As you say it's a shame that all the range of WP7 models are slightly off the pace when it comes to the current generation of hardware.
No, not the best, but nice
If you have a choice, go with LG. They can be unlocked using some tool even after NoDo update from what I understand (do your research though, I haven't tried it since I don't have an LG). I understand tethering is also possible with it.
Focus has better screen (or so everyone says).
I love my Trophy, but I didn't really have a choice - that was the only device available to me. So I am not going to "disrecommend" it, but there are definitely better devices out there (depending on what you value).
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If you have a choice, go with LG. They can be unlocked using some tool even after NoDo update from what I understand (do your research though, I haven't tried it since I don't have an LG). I understand tethering is also possible with it.
Focus has better screen (or so everyone says).
I love my Trophy, but I didn't really have a choice - that was the only device available to me. So I am not going to "disrecommend" it, but there are definitely better devices out there (depending on what you value).
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Having looked into this some more doesn't the LG have some kind of issue with its Bluetooth chip?
Well IMHO, the Focus is the best wp7 out there today:
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-Screen - AMOLED and bigger than the trophy's
-Memory - expandable
-Camera - takes great pics and videos
-Super Lightweight and feels good in the hand
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-Plastic body feels a little cheap.
-ATT (sorry not a big fan of them, even though I've been with them for 3 years now).
I've been waiting for Verizon to finally get a WP7 phone so I can switch back, unfortunately the Trophy is not the phone I was waiting for. The wife who's on Verizon right now is also dying to go WP7, but going from the droid x's huge screen to the trophy's tiny screen (relative to most smart phones out there today) just didn't cut it for her.
But hey, if you like the Tophy, go for it! It'll do most everything a WP7 phone can do just as well as the others.
Dear users,
Im doubting between an Omnia 7 and an HTC HD7.
Today I visited the Omnia 7 forum for the first time, but I can see that there are a lot of complaints. So now it made me doubt between the omnia 7 and the hd7.
What is your advice, should I buy the Omnia 7(it is much cheaper) or the hd7?
Thanks!
BTW: I'm currently using an AT&T Samsung Captivate, which is being repaired at the moment. I'm done with Android, that is why I want a Windows Phone.
Hi,
A few months ago I loved this phone and would have reccomended it. I've now had it a year, my sister has one too. However as you can see by a post I started the other day over time it's developing more and more problems.
These are not WP7 problems... i'd say they are related to the Samsung firmware aspect.
I love the WP7 platform, my next phone will definitely be WP7. However I will more than likely go for a Nokia. Is the Lumia not an option for you?
My personal opinion is that i could not reccomend this model to anyone. If I was offered a replacement for a HD7 now i'd take it.
Sorry to sound negative, there are many people here who are pefectly happy with theirs. I may just be unlucky with mine.
Well, I own an Android phone right now and I want to test windows 7 myself before buying a more expensive phone. I want to use a 'cheaper' wp7 phone for like a year and then buy a phone like the HTC Titan.
The Lumia looks good,but is now way too expensive plus I want a 4.0 inch or bigger screen.
JigsterNL said:
Well, I own an Android phone right now and I want to test windows 7 myself before buying a more expensive phone. I want to use a 'cheaper' wp7 phone for like a year and then buy a phone like the HTC Titan.
The Lumia looks good,but is now way too expensive plus I want a 4.0 inch or bigger screen.
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I recommend you a samsung omnia 7.
previosly I had a HD7 for few months- but the omnia 7 are much better, faster, with best super AMOLED, good battery time and my was 200,00 €. The screen from HD7 is more grey as black. I'm very happy with my omnia7 ... Is also very good with finctions and jailbreak ...
and if 3,7" the htc mozart are a good and cheap
I just don't want to flash or do anything with the phone, just install the updates through Zune. So no modding at all
For starters, this is my opinion.
The Omnia 7 has a far better screen (AMOLED) and the battery life is better. The looks and feels of the Omnia 7 is also better than the HD7.
But if you want to spend some more bucks I would also advice to buy the Lumnia 800.
Hey there,
I can recommend you the Omnia 7. I (we) got 3 of them.
One for myself, one for my father and recently bought one for my brother.
I did not expirience any troubles till now. Samsung Omnia 7 was the best of all Windows Phones, before Nokia Lumia, HTC Titan and the rest began to appear. There have been hundrets of reviews saying the same.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Omnia_7
The phone its worth its price, its even too cheap for it. 16 Gigs, a cripst Super Amoled screen, pretty good battery life, and a neat design.
When looking on the phone, it simply looks like something unique when you see the tiles flowing through your screen with the black background and the black design.
Amoled screens offer the best black color, its the darkest of them all. Also the contrast, viewing angles and the brightness is better compared to S-LCD's like of the HD7.
I didn't like the HD7, it kind of feels a bit too "massive" and "cheap" I would say. In my opinion it looks like a brick.
I felt for the Omnia 7 design which is like a chocolate bar. It also fits pretty well into your hands, its not too big, not too small. Because of the curved back it is easy to hold. Also it doesn't make you think its some cheap hardware you paid a bunch of money for.
The aluminium back feels some kind of soft, if the phone was used for a while and got warm. You can warm it with your hands pretty easily within a short time.
The camera is pretty good for a phone I would say, it takes awesome pictures at daylight. In night its still well, but you can notice some edges that are not as sharp as in daylight. Still a lot better than the HD7's capabilities of recording.
In video mode, you can take videos up to 720p. It looks vivid and fast on VGA recording, but you will notice some performance loss when recording 720p. (Its also normal, same stuff on any other wp7, except 2nd generation like lumia)
The video playback (1080p movies and the recorded ones) are damn smooth.
No pixel errors, natural colors and it doesnt get stuck at all. You wont notice anything slowing down, also not at web playback like youtube videos on 1080p or megavideo ones.
I have had before a Samsung Galaxy S I9000, before I switched to HTC Mozart and then to Omnia 7.
If I it was necessary, I would buy another one of this one.
When you buy the phone, you are supplied an older version of the OS running on it. It is laggy and simply said sucks. Later you receive the NoDo update providing a huge boost in performance. The last update you receive will be the Mango one as you know, it changes the whole phone and it cannot be compared anymore to the ones running older versions of WP. It will get very fast.
I compared mine with carried supplied OS (older than NoDo), with the NoDo one of my father, and my own one with 7720 (now 7740). You can notice big differences.
I spent a bunch of time writing this, so others can also read this.
I cant complain about this phone after 1 year of usage and recommend it to everyone. You wont find another phone this good for 200 bucks.
Hardware is fine, Quality is fine, Screen is fine. Doesnt feel cheap and comes with pretty good Headphones.
If you want an experiment, sure go for it. If not go for one of the new models, Nokia Lumia 800 would be my best advise. It has superior build quality and a good screen. Nokia is also known for good support and quick updates and fixes.
Thank you guys (and thanks for the long review) I'm going to overthink this now more serious.
I'll will also recommend to buy Nokia, if you can.
Samsung Omnia 7 is very good device.
I have mine for nearly a month and already two accident drops - one from nearly 1 m on it's screen, no scratch or anything problem after that
If I buy a new phone I would rather buy an HTC Titan than a lumia
Well it depends what you want.
If you want to save some money and still get the best of the first generation, pick the Omnia 7.
Else if you got a big bank next to you, take as stated before either the Lumia or the Titan.
Titan offers a bigger screen, while Nokia has a smaller and better one.
The Lumia looks better and has exclusive apps. Later also Nokia exclusive games will follow. You do even get a 50 bucks gift card to buy apps.
So yeah its up to you.
Are you guys all some kind of Nokia supporters
I'd say Windows Phone 7 in general and Samsung Omnia 7 specially is not where you can play a lot ... so if you want to get a phone that calls and runs only few apps and that's it, then go for it, otherwise if you want to experience with it, then this is not the right choice.
as I understood from what you earlier wrote, I guess you already made your choice and you'll go for Omnia 7.
enjoy it bro
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Well, I own an Android phone right now and I want to test windows 7 myself before buying a more expensive phone. I want to use a 'cheaper' wp7 phone for like a year and then buy a phone like the HTC Titan.
The Lumia looks good,but is now way too expensive plus I want a 4.0 inch or bigger screen.
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lol you sound just like me! I have an HTC Desire HD and it's currently off for repairs too. I've been curious about WinPho 7 for a while and the Microsoft demo site for it, despite being really limited, impressed me. I've got an Omnia 7 coming to me on Wednesday. I'll post my thoughts as an Android user when I get it up and running. This will also be my first Samsung phone so that's another first for me to experience but I am looking forward to it, especially that gorgeous screen!
I've had a few days to play with the phone now and overall it's pretty solid. The screen on the Samsung is gorgeous with black areas looking like there's no screen on at all instead of the muddy, dark grey on my Desire HD.
The UI is simple to use, transitions are quick and apps load quickly enough like the DHD. Unfortunately there are still limited amounts of apps with it looking like there are far more paid than free apps in comparison to Android. Sadly I'm also noticing a lack of apps that I would normally use with a few exceptions. A few apps I have like Shazam Encore is being charged at £3.99 on the WinPho 7 Marketplace but far less on the Android Market. I can't say what it normally costs currently as it's on sale for 10p. The main apps you might use like Twitter, Facebore ... sorry Facebook and YouTube are available and the UI is the same throughout each so you always know how to find items. A bonus that seems to be applicable to all apps is that they have a "Try" option. They might be limited in some way or have ads displayed. If you like it you can "Buy" it, and it'll unlock or remove ads. Similar to Android offering refunds but with this I don't think there are limits on trials unless they're displayed in the description.
You can sync photos to SkyDrive when they're taken or choose to upload them manually but there's no Dropbox app available currently. The easiest way I found to get images on the phone for use as wallpapers (lockscreen and photo hub background) was to create a folder on my PC, drop the images in and sync it.
Auto-rotate..... oh boy do I hate this. Auto-rotate is always on and there's no toggle option to turn it off. Why is it an issue? I use my phone in bed to check a few things like Twitter or if I get a text message and after unlocking it and loading the app it'll flip to landscape unless I sit up. Small annoyance but one Android lets you toggle. It's quick enough to rotate and it might not annoy others but that's my thought on it.
Background updates are something I was curious about since it wasn't allowed outside a few apps at launch but has supposedly been allowed more widely in Mango / 7.5 and that may be true but finding apps that take advantage of it isn't easy. Mango apps can use live tiles that update in the background but unless you know an app can do it you'd normally end up looking through each one to find it mentioned. There is an app that will help you do it called AppFlow but if you didn't know that you'd be stuck. I'd like to say that the apps I have with live tiles enabled work flawlessly but they don't. I have a Twitter app (not the official app, that sucks just like on Android) that supposedly updates every 30 minutes or so (no option to choose) and I have not yet seen a live tile update from it even with the option selected. I may be doing something wrong, I don't know, I'm still getting used to things. I'm pretty sure I know what I'm doing though and if so then background updating needs work or apps need more work to make it happen.
Final thoughts are really that it seems very much like Android when I got my G1 way back when it was new which was before even Cupcake / Android 1.5 was around. It has a lot of potential, there are some great touches (keeping the UI consistent throughout and with apps is good) and even with carriers customising all they can do is add apps and maybe a theme. You can uninstall the apps (I did, take THAT Orange!) and change theme with no issues. It's similar to Android back then but with more polish overall. With updates I can only see it getting better. Basically I can see it improving and being a competitor but how long that takes I can't guess. I wouldn't give up Android for it but I'm definitely keeping an eye on it to see where it goes.
Any questions? Let me know and I'll try to answer them but otherwise those are my thoughts on Windows Phone 7.5 after using Android exclusively from release.
I am using the Omnia 7 now for one year. I am using it mainly for work (exchange, phone, look at email attachments like powerpoint, etc.) I am synching 3 mail accounts and play from time to time.
Within that year I had not only one "strange situation" with the phone like reboots or not available via phone or Bluetooth disconnects. It is very reliable.
I owned also the Mozart which was far away from the Omnia 7 (battery, display, reliability, etc.). The HD7 has a poor Display. If you are using black background and scroll through your apps you can hardly see the white writing.
I would buy it again - especially for the current price.
Omnia has a much more impressive screen. The HD7 however can use custom roms and allows for greater degree of customisation
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Omnia has a much more impressive screen. The HD7 however can use custom roms and allows for greater degree of customisation
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The Omnia's screen is the most impresive I've ever seen and among the things I noticed first about the phone. I hear a lot of bad things about Samsung build quality but honestly I feel that the phone is very solidly built and this is the first Samsung phone that I've owned.
I considered the HD7 and the size appealed to me at 4.3" because that's the same as my Desire HD but the 4" Omnia isn't that bad to use. I've got 3.7", 4" and 4.3" display phones and I thought that the Omnia was going to be similar to the Milestone / Droid but that extra little size just pushes it into the right size for my hands. That's a bonus to me because I can now consider 4" and up phones in the future but it'll also make me seriously consider Samsung AND Windows Phone 7 handsets and that's not something I thought I'd say with Android 4.0 / ICS impressing me a lot.
The single biggest factor against WinPho for me is still the lack of apps for things I'd consider popular. I couldn't think of real examples before but after getting my Desire HD back I can list a few.
Dropbox
Google products (GMail integrated but no app) such as Google+, GTalk, Maps
Amazon apps (MP3, shopping)
There are more but they're more personal use items that won't apply to most people. These, however, I've missed quite a lot. It won't matter to others and there are bound to be apps I don't miss that others do. It's just a matter of time really and that makes it difficult to pick one OS over the other.
IMO, Disappointing "upgrade" to one X.. HD2 Still the king! So, I sold it off and is back to my trusty Good Quality Phone.
If there is anyone that is interested to know why, let me know. will be glad to post the experience here.
why oh why oh why
i was just dreaming of the 1X
We had an X1 on demo, our outcome was buying 20 new Andida cells for current HD2 fleet & aiming at another 12 month+ service life as nothing to offer but a IT hassle changing over to something with no heavy benefits & a big price tag. HTC handsets really need to implement better inovation & some clever reworking of Android ...
You are crazy man.... really.... HD2 is great but one X is the greatest ever....
Personally, I am not big fan of sense unless in the older times of wm6.5. I just favour HTC for their build quality and dev support for custom roms unlike some plasticky builds like ahem*..S*M***G
Honestly I must be blind not to read properly that OneX is polycarbonate.. As far as I remember, their higher end model have excellent built. Sadly, not this one though..
To go deeper..
I am only mentioning stuffs that I would be considered as an "upgrade" over the HD2 . All comments are imo. U may say I am bias but these are my true feelings and experience. My HD2 are usually switching between GB Nand roms in general.
Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.
Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!
Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??
Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.
Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...
Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.
Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.
There are many more that I cant remember...
If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.
I am just glad this overhyped phone is no longer with me.
I am not a troll.. I am just pissed..
Interresting report !
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scpion said:
Personally, I am not big fan of sense unless in the older times of wm6.5. I just favour HTC for their build quality and dev support for custom roms unlike some plasticky builds like ahem*..S*M***G
Honestly I must be blind not to read properly that OneX is polycarbonate.. As far as I remember, their higher end model have excellent built. Sadly, not this one though..
To go deeper..
I am only mentioning stuffs that I would be considered as an "upgrade" over the HD2 . All comments are imo. U may say I am bias but these are my true feelings and experience. My HD2 are usually switching between GB Nand roms in general.
Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.
Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!
Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??
Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.
Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...
Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.
Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.
There are many more that I cant remember...
If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.
I am just glad this overhyped phone is no longer with me.
I am not a troll.. I am just pissed..
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according to you weird logic, old CRT TVs are better then HDTVs
guys go the One X forum and check the tons of user reviews, so many of us are in awe with the One X, there are only the issues of build defects in early batches, everything else its an uber, brisk, super sexy device
HTC at its best
and the camera, well i don't need to argue check the pictures thread and you wills see for yourselves http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585398 easy as hell to take gorgeous photos
our friend scpion in here is missing the whole point lol
here is a better quick review http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25468262&postcount=3544
Well.. That thread is all abt the best shots that users have taken with the one x camera. Naturally, all the shots will look good.. Mine does not have any hardware related issue and in direct comparison to the HD2, OneX is without doubt better. My point is that, is the One X that great a upgrade from the hd2 ? IMHO, call me strange or fussy, my answer is still no. Neither is it worth all the hype. Its just another phone with better or even great specs but in real life, the performance is subpar.. Entirely imo. Maybe I have too high expectations for it.
Mate,
One X is a great phone! You must've been smoking something special. Comparing the awfull camera of HD2 (mine is already 2 years old) with OX is absolutely ridiculous....
Check this out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEFWshNQ3ac
I can't believe hTc still have crap software in their new phone. I recall vividly with HD2 the bugs ohhhh the bugs...
Have a Galaxy S now and that is superb...
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Check this out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEFWshNQ3ac
I can't believe hTc still have crap software in their new phone. I recall vividly with HD2 the bugs ohhhh the bugs...
Have a Galaxy S now and that is superb...
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all the crazy bugs/glitches have been sorted by firmware 1.29, took them less than a month to clear them out
we still have only one issue which is backlight flickering when the phone overheats, seems related to Tegra 3's power saving feature called PRISM, which controls back-light dynamically to save power, HTC said its software and promised an update soon
so please spare me, the fastest and most generous Android updates provider is HTC, most of their end of 2010 devices are receiving the ICS upgrade too
I would have to admit the Note was better liked than he One X when had them on Demo ...
Samsungs efforts on Android seemed better than HTC for most practical phone use.
Sound quality on HTC still is very poor & the build quility & design of the current polycarbonate plastic handsets is not that good, no wonder 2012 sales are down ...
Yeah. With a history of sexy metal outfits on higher end device, I am deeply disappointed. I dun care if its polycarbonate. If its plastic, it just feels plastic.
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Built quality- Polycarbonate=Plastic most of the reviews and even those in store are the white version which looked better.. but i am true to HTC, which usually produce industrial designs so, white will never be for me.. all my phone are black or dark colour.. I am truly shocked at the quality of the material used.
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I love the material, very strong and very light in weight. You might prefer a bakelite phone, but technology has moved on.
Screenwise- Honestly, I imagine the screen will be a huge reason for upgrade. 720p, SLCD2, gorilla glass, 4.7in screen etc. BUT, its really does not feel much bigger as the screen ratio makes it taller. I mostly use the phone in landscape so compared to hd2, it really only a few mm wider. abt 3mm at most. I have a HTC Titan as well, absolutely love the screen size and ratio. The only time I love the One X screen is when I am watching a movie on it.. any ****ty grainy video quality looks gorgeous on it!
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If you want a bigger phone, get the galaxy note.
Processor- Yeah.. so it have a 4+1 core processor, 1GB ram.. HD2 1ghz single core, 512mb ram. Day to day usage, its does feel faster BUT, Just by a few millisecs.. I can live with that.. Free ram for ONE X is pathetic.. 300+mb left after running sense. HD2, 200+ to close to 300mb without sense. (I mentioned b4, I hate sense on android). theres no way a phone can replace a computer for work. Its mostly for adhoc. So, its there really need for such a processor on a phone??
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You only need the speed for games. For the rest, when using an OS/UI a few millisecs make a lot of difference. But if you don't care for that, the HD2 will do just fine. I wonder why you are even considering an upgrade.
Battery life- Theres no need to comment further.. sucks. People will say that this is normal for a superphone. But imo, if HD2 can do similar function though millisec slower, HD2 is the superphone.
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It lasts longer then the HD2, so i don't know what your complaint is. if you want better batterylife, get a Droid RAZR Maxx.
Camera- The biggest letdown imo. Stupid Autofocusing works half the time so what if it have zero lag...
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Again, its alot better than the HD2, and on par with most smartphones.
Wifi/3G connection- For some reason, after the phone screen off, the data on both Wifi and 3g sleeps as well. Coz very often, when I wake the phone there will be a error message smthing like this " no network, pls check connection". This means I will be missing emails, whatsapp messages etc that works via data.
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Probably just a setting, i don't have that problem.
Minor irritating things- Super cheap quality headset for Flagship model is a joke.. at least include a in-ear type..pls.. Most of the time, I cant find the volume rocker.. It too darn small.
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True, its a **** headpiece.
If I have so many complains, why did I buy this? Because my contract is up and I trust HTC blindly. And the dimmly lit shop doesnt help much either.
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I wonder this too, just keep your HD2, 2012 technology just isn't for you.
I agree on Sense thing.
I just don't get why all those manufactuers are trying to make the user 'happier'.
Android is really customizable (unlike iOS ) so one can set his/her system according to personal preferences.
Pr0 users are going to root and install something like CM/AOKP anyway...
So... Why the hell manufactuers can't just release phones with stock unlocked bootloaders + plain, AOSP compiled Android, and whole vendor/build/kernel related stuff?!
I came from an HD2 too.
I take some of these points - but the One X is a evolution of the HD2, not a revolutionary device.
If I had paid NZ$900 for the phone to upgrade from the HD2 I wouldn't be that happy - I agree it probably isn''t worth it. But I took a 'free' upgrade.
But the bottom line is, it is the best Android phone you can buy.
Once the AOSP roms come, i think you will really see the One X pull ahead.
Still awaiting update to OP's blog.What exactly were you expecting from the phone? Holographic video calling? Concierge Service? a BJ whenever you felt randy lol?
I just had to post a reply to this post...
My personal choice was between three hadsets:
HTC One X
Galaxy S3
LG 4X HD
All have basically the same spec with minor variances.
I Pre-Ordered and recieved the One X upon release to great delight...
However, there were a couple of things i didn't like which were:
the 1800mAh battery
the lack of an SD slot
the unibody shell
More power is needed to run a quad-core handset & 4.3" screen comfortably for a day. Although it had 32gb, i currently have a 16gb in my HD2 and it's loaded. I like to be able to change my battery if i needed rather than having to send it of for a repair or smple change...as well as getting easier access to it.
Outside of these gripes, it is a great phone but it didn't hit me as oustanding as the HD2 when it was released.
My Galaxy S3 is also on Pre-order, but that wll come with a 2100mAh battery...which s also accessable. It has an SD slot whch can accomodate 32gb on top of the 16-32or 64gb on the phone.
These alone sell this phone to me and not the Samsung name or the screen which is on par with the One X apart from size...i was hoping HTC had something just a bit better than the One X.
Lastly there's the LG 4X HD not due till approx June...so a long wait.
I can't say owt apart from released specs, and they look good...it's a pity the phone is an ugly bugger.
To conclude, i wouldn't knock the One X comparing it to the HD2 they're a world apart. Although a great phone, the HD2 is outclassed in every way by the new crop of handsets...maybe not with build tho'.
However, in saying that...it's only now that i'm prepared to replace it. this says heaps about the longevity of the HD2. Long may it continue to show how it's done.
you have to be very carful when comparing different OSs across different hardware, several generations apart.
on paper the one x is better in everyway, I don't have one so cant comment on build quality, but I can say the HD2 has issues with the buttons and the digitiser.
however the real question is do you need it?
as you pointed out the 3 YEAR old HD2 runs absolutely fine, running WP in my opinion is as fast as you can get, the limiting factor in the UI is me, I cant move any quicker so having a better CPU or GPU wont make any difference.
So, does a quad core SoC make any difference? nope, not one iota when comparing it to an HD2 with WP and running day to day "phone" tasks
Will it (one x) run games better, of course it will, we have a S1 snapdragon in the HD2, with a very old A200 GPU, but that's irrelevant if you don't play games.
So I guess the question is, is the one x a worthwhile upgrade... for me no its not, will it be worth it for some people, yeah, if games are your thing.
Ive been debating about upgrading my HD2 to a real WP device and I simply cant justify it, and I think that's the point the OP is making, despite 3 years of "progress" there really hasn't been anything worthwhile if games aren't your thing.
Of Course we are talking about Android here, and if you compare android on the two devices then you have a different situation, I don't want to get in to an which OS is better debate but I think we can all agree that Android needs more horsepower to get it running well, if that's progress for an phone OS in your mind then so be it, but, that is that fact of the matter
Ah.. That's the word. " justify". It simply not justifiable to blow $800 to get a new hardware that does things a little faster or better. Theres no wow factor to this phone at all other than the specs. Maybe its not optimised yet, but the first impression is disappointing enough. I have to admit i am quite a htc fanboy but this device does not cut as a flagship. Camera is in a way better but the interface really screw up. Its simply a great challenge to get it to focus on something especially in macro. If u still have to get it done manually, I think this camera has failed. Android and sense combo is simply not a great combo looking at how One X runs on it. It still lags or daydream at times. mind u, hd2 hardware is 3 years old and day to day usage, its still performs well or on par. Screen resolution, colour, brightness on One x is way way better. I am just saying the ratio is wrong imo. If i want a bigger screen than the HD2, i would expect it to be bigger in all directions. And not just taller. i have to admit for HD2, when i am outdoor, i struggles to see the screen, which i really hate. My point is, as another poster has said. OneX is just like a evolution of the HD2. Not a revolution. I would love to one a One X again. But not at this kind of price tag and definitely at at this current stage of development.
To Reckless- i would want a phone to function as a phone. HD2 does just as well with 3 or 4 cores lesser. unfortunately, it doesn't do a bj. If i ever need one, i will pm U.
Hi all, sorry for posting this here but I really need some input from the honest folks of XDA whom I trust most
I have Xperia X10 & I want to buy a new phone, my three options are Note 3, Xperia Z1 & LG G2
now I really wanted to go for Note 3 because of s pen & big size but the problem is that Snapdragon 800 version is not released with warranty for where I live & I have doubts buying a Samsung device without warranty
I played a bit with Xperia Z1 & noticed the overheating issue around the lens & worse yet it shuts down the camera & doesn't let you use it unless the device is cooled down
I played with LG G2 & found no issues at all, really loved the device & its innovations, the price is also lower than those two here, the only thing is I heard a few things about LG phones in general that makes me worried, a few people say that lg phones' batteries get worse after some months & you'll get half the battery life you got during first days, Also they say that because of G2's many software features the phone will lag after some months (which sounds kinda stupid really) but since my budget is really really limited & I will stuck with whatever I choose for two or three years I need some honest input from the people who own this device for some months now
Thanks a lot, Really appreciate it
Here's my somewhat biased answer:
1. I avoid Sony products like the plague. Not very good experience in the past.
2. I don't like the Xperia line, their designs are not that good to me (way too square-ish).
3. I've been a Samsung user for the last three devices Samsung S2, Samsung S3 Mini and Samsung Note 1, all of them great devices except two things: Build quality (chromes come off easily) but above all, AMOLED screens tend to burn-in over time. So I decided to avoid AMOLED screens from now on.
4. I decided to try LG G2 due to it been the first Snapdragon 800 CPU and it's gorgeous IPS screen but most of all, its INCREDIBLE BATTERY LIFE! which is something every other brand lacks (maybe except the Motorola Droid MAXX). Other great aspects: super thin, almost no bezel which allows the screen to be almost phablet size!
I would suggest you to try LG G2, it will not disappoint you! :good:
Just make sure you get the 32 GB version!
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Hi all, sorry for posting this here but I really need some input from the honest folks of XDA whom I trust most
I have Xperia X10 & I want to buy a new phone, my three options are Note 3, Xperia Z1 & LG G2
now I really wanted to go for Note 3 because of s pen & big size but the problem is that Snapdragon 800 version is not released with warranty for where I live & I have doubts buying a Samsung device without warranty
I played a bit with Xperia Z1 & noticed the overheating issue around the lens & worse yet it shuts down the camera & doesn't let you use it unless the device is cooled down
I played with LG G2 & found no issues at all, really loved the device & its innovations, the price is also lower than those two here, the only thing is I heard a few things about LG phones in general that makes me worried, a few people say that lg phones' batteries get worse after some months & you'll get half the battery life you got during first days, Also they say that because of G2's many software features the phone will lag after some months (which sounds kinda stupid really) but since my budget is really really limited & I will stuck with whatever I choose for two or three years I need some honest input from the people who own this device for some months now
Thanks a lot, Really appreciate it
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I Personally like the Z1 and the G2
The Z1 overheating issues is only present if you take video like a mad person or play games as if its a PSP from my understanding.
Remember these are still phones. And if you plan to play games on it for 6-8 hours straight and get it overheating, you are in need of a Handheld or tablet. It should not overhead on normal usage.
G2 I have so far has great battery life. What u should do to Li-Ion every now and then though is run it completely dead and recharge it so the system can calibrate the battery again. a lot of times that's the issue. That's the same thing people say with Motorolas also but I been fine with miens for 1 1/2 years
I went with the G2 due to price. Instead of the Note I had the HTC one as my third option.
The new phones are all soo powerful it mainly comes down what u want to use it for and what fits ur pocket and style.
I like the size, Screen, Powerplant, Battery of the G2 and the Price at under $300 used in mint condition was a steal to me.
Else I went for the HTC one at little over 325,.... The Sony was nice but the price was not right for me. Nor did it feel comfi in my hand.
But again those are my personal reason on why I picked the G2
1. Sony make POS phone, I despise their products, even their GOOGLE TV sucks, funny thing is I'm getting ready to buy their noise cancelling headphone. They dont listen to customer, the same problem that happen in the XZ is happen on the XZ1S viewing angle. also the battery is surprisingly not good at all.
2. Note 3 is good but too big for my hand. my rules of thumb is, if I cant wrap my thumb and middle finger around the phone, then it is too big for me
3. LG G2 is an awesome phone, if I switch to any other phone it would be because I'm bored of Android, not because of the phone. battery last me all day with everything turn on (no battery saving app BS)
I traded the XZ for HTC one, the HTC one came close to beating it, but the over heating and battery got me to switch to the LG G2. If you do want the Note 3, take a look at the HTC one max, I think they fix it to where it doesnt overheat.
I had a Xperia Z1 and man, its a joke... Full of issues, touchscreen, battery, lag in homescreen, random reboots... I replaced it 5 times and all have the same issues.
Now i have an Lg G2 and, oh my really f**** god... Its wonderful! its the best phone i have had so far. The IPS screen provide a really good quality, it impress me the first time i saw it.
Buy an LG and you will like it as heaven.
Buy a Sony and play Russian roulette.
Buy a Samsung and you will have a good phone ( i dont have it so i dont say anything about it )
Thanks all for your input, That makes me want this phone even more over the other two
so those of you who have this phone for some months now haven't face any lag or battery life degradation on stock rom??because I know I'm gonna just use the stock rom (because based on my experience with X10 & flashing countless custom roms nothing beats stock in stability)
Also 32 gb is enough for you? I don't have proper access to cloud, for me it'll be some music files, maybe two or three movies, one hd game maybe & also I need 2-3 gb for maps to use it for offline gps, with these can I install many apps without any issues?
Thanks again for your useful comments
Also about HTC one max its price is really over my budget, also its camera is just not that good in daylight
any comment on the storage?
I'm off to buy my new phone next week
Yes 32gb is enough for your usage! But of course as anything else, you should not abuse it!
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You will have 24 GB storage after system apps. There is some occasional stutter when scrolling but that's the only lag I've experienced.
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any comment on the storage?
I'm off to buy my new phone next week
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I thought of that initially too... But it was not a dealbreaker at all!
I use several storage options:
1. Cloud Storage (Dropbox, Google Drive, etc)
2. Personal wireless NAS Storage when at home.
3. USB Host through OTG cable and usb memory.
Besides, unless you purchase a high speed micro sd, external storage through microsd is basically useless due to their low performance compared with the internal storage. Even some Class 10 microsd are not as fast as internal storage.
Anyway, just be sure to get those video recordings out of your device soon, because they are HUGE! lol...
Cheers!
I have that Russian cloud storage which gave me 1TB of free storage due to a now finished promo. Box.com gives you 50 GB free storage when you sign in using a LG phone but cloud storage isn't that fast really.
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Rayan said:
Here's my somewhat biased answer:
1. I avoid Sony products like the plague. Not very good experience in the past.
2. I don't like the Xperia line, their designs are not that good to me (way too square-ish).
3. I've been a Samsung user for the last three devices Samsung S2, Samsung S3 Mini and Samsung Note 1, all of them great devices except two things: Build quality (chromes come off easily) but above all, AMOLED screens tend to burn-in over time. So I decided to avoid AMOLED screens from now on.
4. I decided to try LG G2 due to it been the first Snapdragon 800 CPU and it's gorgeous IPS screen but most of all, its INCREDIBLE BATTERY LIFE! which is something every other brand lacks (maybe except the Motorola Droid MAXX). Other great aspects: super thin, almost no bezel which allows the screen to be almost phablet size!
I would suggest you to try LG G2, it will not disappoint you! :good:
Just make sure you get the 32 GB version!
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I agree, stock it great....i just installed a debloated version and the up side to the root Rom is charging isn't limited on cheap chargers, bloatware removal and a small boost of battery life.
I would highly recommend the LG G2, i swap phones alot and my all time favorite was the HTC One due to its build quality and boom sound speakers but since i started using the G2 Im so in love with it. Great battery life and the a huge screen that is prefect for one hand use due to the lack of screen bezel.
The only main issue i had with the G2 was the UI, although it preforms well but the colors used are so stupid and might make the phone look cheap, so i replaced all the main ugly looking apps with others from the Play store ( No root required) im talking about the Dialer, Messaging & keyboard.
Hope that helps making up ur mind.
i think the verizon G2 is the best bang for the buck
the gsm is unlocked
wireless charging built in
I like the stock LG keyboard.
for everything else
there are LOTs of ROMS :good::good::good:
I am also looking for my next phone.
At first considered Note 3, but after a bit of reading around, its buggy firmwares scared me off plus i am not interested in S pen features.
Then thought of One Max, but no OIS like One, and snapdragon 600 not very futureproof either. Great screen and audio though. But having this big of a phone and still compromise on specs was a no go.
Now i am down to LG G2. I guess this might be it. I could care less about having latest android version as for me it is already mature enough. Phone stability and battery life are what i am looking for with decent horsepower.
I am pretty much a samsung fanboy! Not to the extreme but I have been in love with the galaxy series.
I was using the galaxy S3 when a offer for the LG G2 came up, which i could not refuse, so i 'gave it a go' and in my complete honesty i have never looked back and had no regrets.
The phone is amazing and can guarentee it will compete with most if not all the upcoming phones this year!! The speed is just out of this world and the first thing people comment on when trying my phone. Battery.....well what can I say, WOW!!!! Button placement is actually very nice, but due to LGs actual useful features I dont touch the buttons for days on end!
Storage.......yes this can be a problem, and its the one thing people turn round to me and say its the thing tgat stops them getting the phone. But i have learnt to live with it with no problems. My gallery is now linked to my dropbox so save space there, and i just delete gilms and series once i have watched them. To me i have no issues with storage.
Overall i can not reccomend this phone enough! I did not mention so much like screen and bezel and overall size if phone as they are just obviously perfect.
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Guys I hope you don't mind me tagging onto this thread.
I killed my Xperia Z Ultra yesterday, I reversed over it, its complete roadkill now... :crying:
Anyway that aside I am seriously considering the G2 now it can be gotten for such a reasonable price and the hardware/battery etc. is so much better than the Nexus 5.
Im completely sold on the hardware but I do like stock android though so will probably go with an AOSP Rom at some point.
Can someone tell me if I can still root and put custom recovery on the latest LG firmware... I just won't be happy if I'm stuck with the stock LG firmware forever.
Really appreciate if someone could answer that for me conclusively as I have my finger on the trigger of buying one. :good:
you probably can, otherwise you grab an old kdz somewhere downgrade(via return to stock method, posted here somewhere), root and upgrade
anybody have experience with that?
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Guys I hope you don't mind me tagging onto this thread.
I killed my Xperia Z Ultra yesterday, I reversed over it, its complete roadkill now... :crying:
Anyway that aside I am seriously considering the G2 now it can be gotten for such a reasonable price and the hardware/battery etc. is so much better than the Nexus 5.
Im completely sold on the hardware but I do like stock android though so will probably go with an AOSP Rom at some point.
Can someone tell me if I can still root and put custom recovery on the latest LG firmware... I just won't be happy if I'm stuck with the stock LG firmware forever.
Really appreciate if someone could answer that for me conclusively as I have my finger on the trigger of buying one. :good:
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How was the Z Ultra? the camera is not good right? also no flash...sigh
Do you recommend Z Ultra or LG G2?
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How was the Z Ultra? the camera is not good right? also no flash...sigh
Do you recommend Z Ultra or LG G2?
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I really enjoyed using it... The camera was typical tablet quality, very poor and I found myself not bothering to take photos of moments I would have like to have captured,
The size I got used to but it was what ultimately lead to its demise, It must have fell out of my pocket getting into the car and I reversed over it. Its roadkill now :crying: Will get a replacement on the insurance and sell it on.
The things I had the huge screen for, ie watching movies and gaming I found I never had time to do anyway... I don't regret getting the Ultra but its time for something with similar performance but a lot more practical and I think for me thats the G2,
Obviously relative to the time I loved my 3210 and 3310 but you cannot say they're better phones than what we have today. I thought I wasn't going to buy this because of the screen protector thing, however I needed a new phone because I sold my Windows Phone as that OS is just plain bad. I ended up going for this phone in the end because I hate big phones and it finally felt like Android got its iPhone... a normal sized flagship. I've avoided the mini versions in the past as they're always the poor peoples phone, for some reason OEMs see smaller phones as this? However this phone really makes no compromises.
I love the size, love the speed, love the fact Sony don't do a Touchwiz, the construction is so solid and nice, the camera is great, the screen is great etc. It is such an amazing phone to fit in this size, which next to my iPhone 5c it is barely any bigger. What has amazed me though is I'm getting 4 days on a single charge, I'm not a heavy user, I used to get 2 days on my HTC One, but my Windows Phone only lasted a day and this one is thrashing them all. I'm currently on 70% at 1 day 19 hours, those battery saver things built in really work.
I have to wonder if wanting higher and higher resolution screens is worthwhile, I don't miss the 1080p screen of my HTC One, I didn't miss it with my Windows Phone which was 720p, I don't miss it with this one either. I use my iPhone (which I own because IOS has the best games) and that is even lower res and I just don't care it looks good enough. I don't miss not having 460ppi or whatever the HTC One was, I cannot see a pixel on the screen of this phone or my iPhone, I don't look at my phone with a magnifying glass.
My only gripe is I wish they used the bottom bit for capacitative touch buttons.
Really great phone I'd recommend it to any one, maybe people can pick faults with it, I dunno I can pick faults with every phone I've ever used, at some point you just have to accept there is no perfect phone. The HTC One went on about the front stereo speakers, only they weren't great quality, weren't loud after the updates that toned them down because they would crackle at high volumes, the camera sucked, it was impossible to repair. The 1020, the camera was over rated, it would take 4 seconds between shots, have lots of noise, the battery would barely last a day, Windows Phone sucked. I could go on and on but I think so far the Z1 Compact is the best all rounder I've owned and definitely the best normal sized phoned that you can actually fit in your pocket comfortably.
I have to agree, love this phone so far. Before buying the phone, I was a little apprehensive due to various complaints on this forum about touchscreen, slow to wake, etc. But after 9 days without a reboot, I have yet to experience any bugs. Performance is lightning fast, Sony 4.3 ROM is very stable, and the size is almost perfect (would prefer even smaller, but I don't expect anything smaller with similar performance anytime soon).
Venekor said:
My only gripe is I wish they used the bottom bit for capacitative touch buttons..
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^^^^ THIS! There is plenty of room on the bottom bezel for the buttons, and that would get more usable screen area back. But that's a minor complaint for an otherwise superb phone.
I've not got bugs on 4.3, I just don't get why people want to be on the latest version all the time, I've been on Kitkat with my HTC One and never noticed a difference...
I like the apps that keep the on screen buttons but make them opaque and get rid of the black bar, it means you don't really notice them and you feel like you're getting the whole screen. I still don't get why there is a big unused Bezel there, maybe that didn't have the space and it is a tight fit in there?
The other thing I don't get is you can easily remove the back cover and it is a bit like a Galaxy phone in there, the internals are covered by plastic, you can get the battery out quite easily and it is easy to repair. They should have just made it into a battery cover instead of giving them impression the battery cannot be replaced.
Still it is nice that you can open it up so easily.
I agree...best phone I ve ever used
Sure is best!. I have 4.4.2 rom now and it rox
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First of all sorry on my english
Bezel on the end of phone is probably place where you holding hands when you play games or watching movies
a title?
sorry for my poor English
I like its size and the appearance and no shrinkage to Z1.
Im worry that few people choose this phone here（they often appreciate big ones）and it appears few roms. My last phone was Moto me525 defy, it could use dozens of roms.
Finally I would complain that the forum here is not so friendly as in my country.
11 numbers! are needed, I was used none or 6 numbers when you submit frequently.
Love the dimensions and specs of this phone as well.
But I am still not a fan of Android coming from Nokia's Meego Harmattan.
If the Sailfish OS port ever comes (bug free), this would be my perfect phone.
I completely agree. I came from a Find 5, which is nice in its own right, and this phone is just ridiculously good. I left it stock for about 5 minutes before rooting and unlocking, and have not looked back. I have had no issues thus far with KK (the slightly modded version from munjeni), and the performance / battery and build quality is superb. I haven't messed with BT or camera much yet, but getting a few little things like the softkeys out of the way is about all I needed to make this my perfect phone.
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Venekor said:
I've not got bugs on 4.3, I just don't get why people want to be on the latest version all the time, I've been on Kitkat with my HTC One and never noticed a difference...
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Google does not leave an update/work for nothing uh... If you do not see the differences, is that your usage is too basic to see (e.g., UI improvements...).
Btw, I always used Xperia smartphones and this is the best phone I've ever owned too!
couldn't agree anymore with you! this is my favorite phone too, and i just love it! all other "mini" smartphones either need a large batteri or have little internal memory or something else. this phone is a beast and have it all!
I agree 100% that this is the best phone I have to date. For a compact phone, the specs alone was a winner and has proven to be in it's performance. It's by no means a mini when it comes to resources. Superb processing and battery power and proprietary Sony battery usage software which I don't even have to use, lol.
I appreciate that Sony doesn't have to be out there marketing wise like Samsung and elegantly meet and surpass their performance. Water proof, dust proof, no biggie full LTE support no limitations except maybe finger print reader (like they even use it). I have owned Samsung s2 to s4, even their minis. Ironically I loved the s2
I am soo happy I have jumped ship and look forward to continued Sony development.
sllik said:
Love the dimensions and specs of this phone as well.
But I am still not a fan of Android coming from Nokia's Meego Harmattan.
If the Sailfish OS port ever comes (bug free), this would be my perfect phone.
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yes sailfish os on the z1c would it make perfect.