My reason for doing this topic, is that i have tested roms, over a long period. My history is that i bought a used HTC Magic, it had a Hero Rom on it (Fata1ty) It was so full of bugs and errors, that after i while i started searching for alternatives.
I found the JacHero roms, and tried installing them according to the guides, but i couldn't, since they required Danger SPL and so on.
So i searched some more and came across MyHero (1.1.3) I installed it, and it worked surprisingly well.. I followed the updates until 2.05. But i found some bugs (Bluetooth didn't work!) So after a while i started searching again.
I then stumbled onto GyD's roms.. I Started with the 1.xx version, and updated until the latest 2.1.1, and this rom rocks on the stock spl and radio. Everything works and its has very little lagg. So i could actually have been stuck on that.
UpdateBut i decided to test some other roms, when i heard about the Android Eclair 2.1 coming out. I found Eugene373 and his Hero 3.1, which had been ported to 32a by ahmgsk. I had it on my phone a couple of days, but a lot of things didnt work (Like my language, danish, bluetooth, camera, and there was a few bugs, especially with the HTC apps) so i went back to GyD - But learning to use the xda forum taught me to check out devs statistics and i found that ahmgsk had ported some other roms, including the Expresso 2.0 and the SuperD. So i tested them - and that brought me to test Amon Ra's Ion and Cyanogens 1.6. I compaired the three roms (RAION1,6, Cyanogen 4.2.12.2 ahmgsk's ported SuperD) and i found that SuperD is the closest i can get to having a fully functional Android 1.6 rom.. Unfortunately it doesnt have HTC sense UI, and since i dont like the Sapphire Donut ui, i went further with my testing.
I read about CursorDroid a while ago, i saw that i had to flash radio and spl to use it, so i didnt go into that, since i had a bad experience trying to get JacHeroski 2.2 on my magic - I followed his guide on updating Danger SPL, unfortunately i somehow got the SPL for the 32b, and i bricked my phone.. I didnt like doing that again, but i felt that i had to try. And this i dont regret at all.. Its simply so fast, running so smooth and the guy is amazing. Updating the rom every day, and he responds to all the queryes he gets. I can recommend that all try this - Just follow Amon Ra's guide on upgrading radio and spl, and you cant do it wrong..
First postHi there - This thread is for sharing experiences with the developers rom's, not to ditch anyone, so i hope we can keep a good tone in here. I have tested the most of the rom's for the 32a, and i have tried changing SPL and Radio, and i have rooted a magic, from the latest HTC RUU..
In my experience there are two criterias for being a fast and stable rom.
-It has to support as many users as possible - This means multi language(HTC_IME, Locales and dictionaries from almost every country), no change of SPL and Radio.
- It has to have limited bugs, and Cam, bluetooth, wireless network etc. has to work.
So, i did some testing, i bricked one magic due to it, and i have tried installing the lastest update from HTC, getting root back on my magic, thanks to Amon Ra, and many others.
I always use Amon Ra's recovery images, since they have all the necessary tools. Latest is the recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.5.2H.img, which can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530492
The roms i have tested are:
Amon Ra's ION1.6 (Android 1.6) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538645)
Cyanogen ROM 4.2.12.2 (Android 1.6) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567610)
Ahmgsk's Expresso 2.0 (Android 2.0) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=608581)
Ahmgsk's Ported Hero 3.1 (Android 2.1) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592114)
Ahmgsk's Super_D 1.5.1 (Android 1.6) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609714)
GyD's 2.1.1 (Android 1.5) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548837)
Myhero 2.05 (Android 1.5) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5325344)
These are all tested with SPL 1.33.2010 and Radio 3.22.20.17.
In my opinion, the best, most stable and usable by anyone is GyD 2.1.1, this you just install and setup to your liking, and it runs smooth and fast. Myhero is also like that, but it has some glitches and bugs, like a brightness issue, and the screen seems interlaced when running it.
Of the other roms, if you want to run Android above 1.5, i would suggest that you try out Ahmgsk's Super_D - It is the one that has the latest UI, but it doesnt come with HTC keyboard, and only has limited multi language and dictionaries. You need to install HTC_IME yourself, Cyanogen has put it out on XDA here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567294
I have excluded JacHeroSki 2.2 in this thread so far, because i have been unable to make it run on any of my phones - And i have searched for help regarding flashing radio and Danger SPL, but have been unable to find it for 32a..
I then went and tested CursorDroid's CursorSense which has some complicated installing issues..
First you have to change Radio and SPL, and then you can apply the Rom. This is the only rom available for this SPL and Radio, so you have to revert back, if you dont like this Rom - CursorDroid claims that this is the closest to the real Hero, i wont say for or against, i can just state, that it really works.. This is the best rom on the market at the moment!
CursorSense 1.0final (Android 1.5) (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592856)
CursorSense 1.0final has just been released, you can just apply without wipe.. Here is a list of apps i have removed from my version of CursorSense:
Use "adb shell rm"
/data/app/wireless_tether_1_60-pre3_htc.apk
/data/app/wired_tether_1_0.apk
/data/app/BizCardReader.apk
/data/app/AndroidNotes.apk
/data/app/TitaniumBackup.apk
/data/app/org.connectbot.apk
/system/app/com.htc.StockWidget.apk
/system/app/com.htc.StockWidget.odex
/system/app/com.htc.TwitterWidget.apk
/system/app/com.htc.TwitterWidget.odex
/system/app/DCSStock.apk
/system/app/DCSStock.odex
/system/app/HtcFootprints.apk
/system/app/HtcFootprints.odex
/system/app/HtcFootprintsWidget.apk
/system/app/HtcFootprintsWidget.odex
/system/app/HtcTwitter.apk
/system/app/HtcTwitter.odex
/system/app/LearnMore.apk
/system/app/LearnMore.odex
/system/app/Stock.apk
/system/app/Stock.odex
/system/app/teeter.apk
/system/app/teeter.odex
/system/app/WapBrowser.apk
After uninstalling, reboot with "adb shell reboot"
Last but most importantly, i would like to give big thanks to all the developers on xda, you make a tremendous effort, giving us all the best experiences with our phones. Without you guys, no one would have the opportunity to experience the full capacity of Android! Keep up the good work, and do you guys need any help, i would gladly help out in any way i can..
Cheers dude!
Thumbs up for CursorSense , indeed the BEST rom out there! ( Thanks Cursor! )
Regards,
Eyegor
Nice article!
And I couldn't agree more.
I have also tried a few ROMs, but I have never been as satisfied as I am now.
My ranking would be:
1. CursorSense 1.0RC1
2. MagicGyd 2.1.1
3. CaSense 1.11
4. MyHero 2.0.5
CursorSense is the only ROM that is currently under development, and we can expect a new version (1.0RC2) in the next few days. Updating Radio, SPL and using Amon's Hero Recovery is a requirement, but when following instructions, you should not risk bricking your phone.
Highly recommended!
CursorSense is still 1.5 right? Same as all other Hero roms? Just want to know what is so great about it.
evilmerlin said:
CursorSense is still 1.5 right? Same as all other Hero roms? Just want to know what is so great about it.
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The quick answer is speed and stability. Sure some version have had issues, but with the latest release all have been removed, and since it's still being improved, the developer is addressing any newly reported issues in future releases.
The best way to learn about the ROM, and get the full story, I recommend reading through the developers thread (or at least the last 10-15 pages)
To everyone looking for a clean ROM I would recommend Amon_Ra's
Its almost as clean as a stock ROM
But it provides a 1.6 update to the 32a board (where HTC didnt) and the cleaness make it as good as a HTC update
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CursorSense is still 1.5 right? Same as all other Hero roms? Just want to know what is so great about it.
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CursorSense is Android 1.5, but its running on upgraded spl and radio - Spl and Radio that are from a genuine HTC Hero phone, so its not like other Hero rom's available on Magic spl. It's really fast, and everything works..
My reason for doing this topic, is that i have tested roms, over a long period. My history is that i bought a used HTC Magic, it had a Hero Rom on it (Fata1ty) It was so full of bugs and errors, that after i while i started searching for alternatives.
I found the JacHero roms, and tried installing them according to the guides, but i couldn't, since they required Danger SPL and so on.
So i searched some more and came across MyHero (1.1.3) I installed it, and it worked surprisingly well.. I followed the updates until 2.05. But i found some bugs (Bluetooth didn't work!) So after a while i started searching again.
I then stumbled onto GyD's roms.. I Started with the 1.xx version, and updated until the latest 2.1.1, and this rom rocks on the stock spl and radio. Everything works and its has very little lagg. So i could actually have been stuck on that.
But i decided to test some other roms, when i heard about the Android Eclair 2.1 coming out. I found Eugene373 and his Hero 3.1, which had been ported to 32a by ahmgsk. I had it on my phone a couple of days, but a lot of things didnt work (Like my language, danish, bluetooth, camera, and there was a few bugs, especially with the HTC apps) so i went back to GyD - But learning to use the xda forum taught me to check out devs statistics and i found that ahmgsk had ported some other roms, including the Expresso 2.0 and the SuperD. So i tested them - and that brought me to test Amon Ra's Ion and Cyanogens 1.6. I compaired the three roms (RAION1,6, Cyanogen 4.2.12.2 ahmgsk's ported SuperD) and i found that SuperD is the closest i can get to having a fully functional Android 1.6 rom.. Unfortunately it doesnt have HTC sense UI, and since i dont like the Sapphire Donut ui, i went further with my testing.
I read about CursorDroid a while ago, i saw that i had to flash radio and spl to use it, so i didnt go into that, since i had a bad experience trying to get JacHeroski 2.2 on my magic - I followed his guide on updating Danger SPL, unfortunately i somehow got the SPL for the 32b, and i bricked my phone.. I didnt like doing that again, but i felt that i had to try. And this i dont regret at all.. Its simply so fast, running so smooth and the guy is amazing. Updating the rom every day, and he responds to all the queryes he gets. I can recommend that all try this - Just follow Amon Ra's guide on upgrading radio and spl, and you cant do it wrong..
well the thread is a good, idea. the amount of changes required and also the higher risk of bricking it compared to other roms doesn't appeal.
I am leaning to wards gyd for my magic.
I have updated post 1, so there is some more news..
I also take recommendations to other roms than the ones i have covered, and i can test roms for you, if you want me to..
Wow, didnt' realize that all of this was going on!
Thanks guys, I appreciate the support!
Stay tuned for more updates!
For anyone scared to update radio/spl, there is no need to worry as long as you remember to follow directions and ask questions if you need help.
Cheers!
cursordroid said:
Wow, didnt' realize that all of this was going on!
Thanks guys, I appreciate the support!
Stay tuned for more updates!
For anyone scared to update radio/spl, there is no need to worry as long as you remember to follow directions and ask questions if you need help.
Cheers!
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yeah, juz flashed your ROM today and must say it's freaking awesome. I was on AmonRa's 1.6.3 and it was not as fast and crash-free as your ROM.
Yeah, its a really cool rom, and now its final.
I am currently testing Cyanogen 4.2.12.2 on my other phone - Its running smooth and stable so far. All i miss is the danish HTC_IME, so i dont have to have an Locale app, to be able to revert back to danish, when i had to write in english. And then the Sense UI, that would be nice..
How about posting up some videoreviews of Cursordroid on Youtube?
Can't believe there's almost no custom ROM reviews
i use myhero 2.0.5, it's good for me
jcbwng said:
How about posting up some videoreviews of Cursordroid on Youtube?
Can't believe there's almost no custom ROM reviews
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Great idea, I will most certainly think about it. Got a 8mp webcam, so..
IMO cursordroid's cursorsense is the most stable of the ROM's I have tried so far (i've tried cyanogen and Amon_RA's rom) but I didn't expect I was constantly gonna need the bluetooth FTP which made me change from cursorsense to back to cyanogen (it was very hard on me to let that ROM go)
Anyway, when cursordroid's rom gets upgraded to android 1.6/2.0 (i feel this is gonna be soon, very soon), I'll flash it again
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IMO cursordroid's cursorsense is the most stable of the ROM's I have tried so far (i've tried cyanogen and Amon_RA's rom) but I didn't expect I was constantly gonna need the bluetooth FTP which made me change from cursorsense to back to cyanogen (it was very hard on me to let that ROM go)
Anyway, when cursordroid's rom gets upgraded to android 1.6/2.0 (i feel this is gonna be soon, very soon), I'll flash it again
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Sense UI + Android 2.1 will be out eventually (The sooner the better) and when it does you know Cursor will be on it.
My opinion - which one is the best (most stable) one - CursorSense
Hi everyone
At the moment, my phone is powered on CursorSense (Updated to 1.2.6.1) and it has workiong so great so far.
I really tried, cnahged and tested many other roms before and this one looks like the most stable then any previous one.
It's the most stable rom for HTC magic (which including SenseUI) and the most featrues works.
Of course, everyone of u knows that there r some bluetooth issue and Android is based on v1.5, but upgraded rom and spl makes phone running really fast and stable
So, my recomandition to everyone (who hasn't tried yet) to run this rom
I belive that everyone would like it is based on Android 2.0 (or above ), bluetooth ftp works propetly...but there's no such a perfect rom, so, I hope this one will be upgraded to more stable version which will be deployed to my phone as soon as it comes out
Best regards!
CursorSense by a mile
The first ROM I installed on my Rodgers Magic was Amon_RA's 1.6.3. Worked great BUT my Magic is one of those that reboots when the camera is used on a Donut or Eclair ROM. After trying lots of ROMS, I discovered that the camera reboots went away using the new radio and a Eclair ROM. The Eclair roms are too slow and buggy for me so I now have CursorSense and will upgrade to 2.1 when it is released by Rodgers and rooted most likely by CursorDroid.
Is there some port of Froyo and Sense on our Old-radio Magic?
I can see only versions for new radio...when can we see that for us old-radio-ed?When??
Just flash the new radio and get it over with
I'm also eagerly waiting for that. Simply switching to the new radio is not possible for everyone, e.g. I have constant dropouts with the NR which is really very anyoing... (and yes, I have tried all different radio versions, checked MD5, reflashed etc.)
I'm not sure, but maybe it could work if u flash 32b/dream sense rom + ported kernel like in CM based roms. I didn't try this so it's just a guess.
nobooya said:
I'm not sure, but maybe it could work if u flash 32b/dream sense rom + ported kernel like in CM based roms. I didn't try this so it's just a guess.
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I don´t think it's a good idea... Probably the phone won't even boot. Usually sense rom's requires kernels related to the original HTC kernel.
i can hardly wait for a 2.2 rom with sense. i love the sense ui interface ! i don't want to use any kind of launchers. when will it come out ?
MindHealer said:
Is there some port of Froyo and Sense on our Old-radio Magic?
I can see only versions for new radio...when can we see that for us old-radio-ed?When??
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there is not be , because the rom senusUI required the system-partition is larger than 140m, but with the old version of the radio(3.22.xxxx) system-partition is limited 90m to supporting the old spl(1.33.xxxx) , so if you need use the old radio with sense, you must through the way the like MTD to make the size of system-partition is bigger for the job but pay attention to expand the system-partition is to reduce date-partition.
I'm sorry but where can I find a Froyo + Sense ROM?
Hi everyone,
I rooted my phone and flashed new rom (in settings it says VillainROM-V13).
My Hero is still buggy and laggy as hell. Well programs are running fine i think, but calling is pain in... After a hour or two after i don't call, when i try to do it... It hangs for a minute or two. I mean i see calling picture and everything looks fine, but, i cant hang my call, i don't hear anything. Or sometimes it hang the call by itself, and i need to recall 3 times after what i can hear toooooooooooooot!
Anyway, it seems that this is software problem.. I don't use any taskiller or any speedup software.
VillainRom didn't change my phone so much. Maybe 10% speedup.
What about thouse radios you people flash? Why do you do it? Maybe it could help me? What about warranty? And what, and how do you flash them?
What about roms.. Which rom is faster than this VillainRom with this stupid Sense, which is slow..?
Please help me someone.
Hi,
as often mentioned before: use one of the roms from elelinux, they are the best you can get for the hero in my opinion. Elelinux-7.1.0-Hero-v2.6 is a nice Gingerbread based rom, its getting real fast if you flash the optional las venturas kernel. Otherwise you could go for the speedmachine-rom, also from elelinux.
You always need a corresponding radio (maybe that has to to with your problems). The radio is flashed like the main rom (copy the radio to your sd-card, fire up recovery an flash the radio)
CU, Peter
The radios usually improve phone signal etc, and you probably won't do much harm if you flash one. Just don't turn off your phone during the process or let the battery run out.
How old is your phone? The warranty is probably expired but if it's rooted the warranty is invalid unless you flash an RUU to return it to stock. There's a guide on VillainROM on how to flash radio's.
You could try a Froyo/Gingerbread ROM like Elelinux or FroydVillain. Personally, I found VR13 the fastest Sense ROM. I'd say a Gingerbread ROM like Elelinux's is the fastest No-Sense ROM.
Ok, where I can get latest radios for GSM European HTC Hero?
And when I flash radio, do I need to wipe rom, or cache? Do I need to wipe anything at all?
What about kernel? When I flash ROM does it flash kernel also?
Latest Radio for the hero is 63.18.55.06SU_6.35.17.03
You can get it at villainrom.co.uk/forum/showthread.php/307-Gsm-Hero-Radio-Roms-Download-Links
You dont need to wipe rom or cache, the kernel remains untouched