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My desire z is real jerky (compared to my brother's desire) when scrolling through the app drawer. Especially when it gets to the easing at the end... I have seen a thread about specific desire Z's being a bit more laggy than others, but how is this possible...
OC to 1.2GHz didnt fix it.
Linpack scores = 44
Quadrant = 2100
I dont think these scores are too bad, and scrolling through the homescreens as well as opening and closing apps is really smooth. Its just the scrolling through the app list thats jerky and I think it is pretty annoying.
Which ROM are you running exactly ?
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Which ROM are you running exactly ?
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It is not ROM specific, I had this when the phone came right out of the box. Now im running villainROMZ 1.0 and its the same. I thought it had to do with the launcher (on my good ol' G1 it went a lot smoother when using LauncherPro) but its not on my desire z.
Have you installed tons and tons of extra apps ? I've added about 10, and my app drawer scrolls without any problem (on the original stock UK ROM). I've seen people talking about it lagging on some of the custom ROMs though.
no extra apps. first boot on stock ROM since i unpacked it and it was already laggy.
Elegy said:
no extra apps. first boot on stock ROM since i unpacked it and it was already laggy.
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Was it just setting up initial stuff, syncing with Google etc though ? I think you need to allow it to settle down.
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Was it just setting up initial stuff, syncing with Google etc though ? I think you need to allow it to settle down.
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i did , i let it run for about a day and after settling down its still not as smooth as my little brother's desire. I can live with it though, its just weird it does that. Everything else runs as smooth, if not smoother.
The other thread is about a guy who's Desire Z is made in China and runs slow as well. Mine's made in China too.
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i did , i let it run for about a day and after settling down its still not as smooth as my little brother's desire. I can live with it though, its just weird it does that. Everything else runs as smooth, if not smoother.
The other thread is about a guy who's Desire Z is made in China and runs slow as well. Mine's made in China too.
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I wonder if it's something to do with the Asian ROM ?
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I wonder if it's something to do with the Asian ROM ?
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yeah this was discussed before, but i find it hard to believe. Why would HTC make a ROM for the same phone, but laggier. Makes no sense at all.
Elegy said:
yeah this was discussed before, but i find it hard to believe. Why would HTC make a ROM for the same phone, but laggier. Makes no sense at all.
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Maybe it's a long shot, but it could just be through a mistake, they obviously wouldn't do it deliberately. Like any bugs in the shipping ROMs.
Hey friend,
My DZ is made in Taiwan and I too feel that it lags while scrolling through the apps menu, contacts etc..
I was just going to root my phone inorder to flash the VillainROM.. but now, after reading that it doesn't solve the problem, I will wait for a different solution I guess..
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The more I use this.. the More i realize that Archos needs some majoy fixes coming soon.. The performance on Android 2.2 is actually pretty bad. I think 2.1 ran better.. I can't do more than 2 tabs at a time in the browser. if I do 3 I get mad lag and freezing and often leads to complete freeze if one has flash on it.. Last night it rebooted twice on me after freezing on simple flash sites like Engadget.. My G1 ran better to be honest. Yea it didn't have flash. but my G1 ran better.
At first I was liking 2.2 and it seemed pretty good. but constantly killing tasks trying to keep performance good is getting old. yea yea 256mb ram. People keep saying this, but the Original Droid runs great compared to this. They have pretty similar hardware.. I sure hope root, and a custom rom comes out soon, that or Archos updates 2.2 and actually ENABLES the JIT Compiler and other things this time. cuz performance is slower on 2.2 than on 2.1
I wanna keep this, but I don't at the same time. lol
From what some people with insider information are saying, there will be an update soon. I think they released froyo because they said they would and not because they thought it was perfect. Still have hope something good is coming. Actually I find that the device runs quite ok even though I have to use the task killer very often.
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LauncherPro completely eliminated the response lag for me, and I haven't needed to run a kill since I installed it.
There are only two important settings to optimize performance in the Menu->Preferences. In the General Setting, check "Keep in memory". In the Advanced Settings->Memory Usage Settings, set the 'Memory usage preset' to 'High'.
The device is now faster than it was in 2.1. Archos should be shipping this launcher instead of the default (or properly tune the default launcher).
macemoneta said:
LauncherPro completely eliminated the response lag for me, and I haven't needed to run a kill since I installed it.
There are only two important settings to optimize performance in the Menu->Preferences. In the General Setting, check "Keep in memory". In the Advanced Settings->Memory Usage Settings, set the 'Memory usage preset' to 'High'.
The device is now faster than it was in 2.1. Archos should be shipping this launcher instead of the default (or properly tune the default launcher).
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Agreed I am using ADW Launcher and it is now buttery smooth. - Edit: It completed froze up on me several times since then and I have since removed ADW, it was great for responsiveness and scrolling but it was eating memory like crazy.
Nutsonfire said:
From what some people with insider information are saying, there will be an update soon. I think they released froyo because they said they would and not because they thought it was perfect. Still have hope something good is coming. Actually I find that the device runs quite ok even though I have to use the task killer very often.
i noticed major issues with my archos 28 and 43.the problem was because i installed the Google market from archos fans.its cool and all but i erased it and restored them.they ran near perfect.with market installed i had battery issues and touchscreen issues.if you have market installed and your device is acting up,get rid of market and maybe try again.
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What market installer you use?
Zeam Launcher and Performance so far
micmcguire said:
Agreed I am using ADW Launcher and it is now buttery smooth. - Edit: It completed froze up on me several times since then and I have since removed ADW, it was great for responsiveness and scrolling but it was eating memory like crazy.
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I have since swiched to Zeam Launcher and I love the drawer, and have not had to kill any processes yet. I may have found a winner!
Try doing a full wipe and reinstall. I was having charging issues and did the full wipe and it not only fixed my charging issue, but it sped the whole thing up (even w/out z4root) ad its been far more stable too.
It does that for me too. Much faster and smoother after a full wipe. Runs perfect now with very rare issues of freezing... I was having much more issues beforehand, even z4root not rooting (Which might have been because of app2sd).
All my apps are on the tiny 300MB space now...
Yup me too. Ut is really snappy without even being rooted.
Did a quadrant without root - got 860.
Rooted - 1019.
No lag and no issues on my 70.
micmcguire said:
Agreed I am using ADW Launcher and it is now buttery smooth. - Edit: It completed froze up on me several times since then and I have since removed ADW, it was great for responsiveness and scrolling but it was eating memory like crazy.
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I have since swiched to Zeam Launcher and I love the drawer, and have not had to kill any processes yet. I may have found a winner!
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Two days in and still really happy with Zeam. I even removed z4 and set CPU completely from my 101.
timjjcarter said:
Yup me too. Ut is really snappy without even being rooted.
Did a quadrant without root - got 860.
Rooted - 1019.
No lag and no issues on my 70.
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with the new beta firmware the quadrant result is up for 25 %
Ive got the 101 with 2.2 but Im getting ready to sell it off. Im just not happy with it and even IF custom ROMs and perm rooting happens, the limitation of the app storage and 256 RAM is a killer for me. I thought it would perform ok and for some I guess it does but it isnt living up to me standards.
Maybe the G-Tab or Adam will be better
Yea im not sure what i think anymore. I was loving it for a day or 2.
Ive been running LP n it made scrolling better, but thats all. I feel like overall stock is better.
ive been having even more major problems after writing that post. Now archos tv out, music, and video widgets all crash on startup and FC if i try to open them. It has froze completely 4 times tonight. Restarted 3 on its own. Browser cant handle more than 2 tabs.. i just wiped my device back to stock once again. For now things seem pretty good. Ill give it a few days stock n see. But been smooth the last hour or so
Im seriously considering selling it and getting a like new Galaxy Tab. The G was decent, and the N Ink is unproven n not even shown its hardware in a while.. but i have high hopes. Well see. I do agree froyo was not ready n needs some serious work. Archos needs a update asap
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with the new beta firmware the quadrant result is up for 25 %
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Beta Firmware?
Yes, there are a few people that do beta testing.
And i can confirm that without root and setcpu we are now arount 1400-1500.
fzelle said:
Yes, there are a few people that do beta testing.
And i can confirm that without root and setcpu we are now arount 1400-1500.
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Great news! Hopefully it is working at least as good as the 1.0.84 (no SMB and WPA2 wifi issues)
Issues keeping me from loving it (I think these are all pretty common):
No access to the files on my WHS except via UPnP (SMB Folder Empty issue)
Graphical lock no longer shows green lines (it does unlock though)
WIFI occasionally quits until I stop/restart it
Flash is slower than dirt and causes Dolphin HD to FC a lot (I ended up uninstalling flash)
General lagginess unless I constantly kill tasks
WHS seems to have an authorisation problem, as with every linux box smb seems to work flawlessly ( as with my buffalo Mini ).
As there is no official Flash you can only have one that was designed for another device, so that explains a little.
I personaly have only seen the remark from archos that they have a hw accelerated version in a certification process by adobe.
And the rest might be already fixed, if i would know anything or could talk about it.
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WHS seems to have an authorisation problem, as with every linux box smb seems to work flawlessly ( as with my buffalo Mini ).
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Yeah, the issue is that Archos doesn't give you a way to specify the username/password combination to use to connect to the SMB server. I bet if I turned on guest access to my WHS it would work, but I'd prefer not to do that...
The other thread has made me increasingly mental trying to find some decent information on what is working and what isn't working for SGS users upgrading to 2.3.2. I upgraded on Sunday evening without any issues and have been using it for the past 48hrs and have come across the following:
bad:
- no sip configuration options
- when integrated with MS exchange server, the unread count for emails never changes even after you read the mail
- default internet browser is horrifically slow, even with no other apps running in the background
- no samsung apps available (probably because this isn't an official samsung release)
good:
- android market works fine for me in Switzerland
- GPS works well with all the different apps i have
- wifi is interesting. it works, but i don't get full signal strength notification even when next to the access point
- FM radio, the most used app i have continues to work nicely
Overall I have been pleasantly surprised with this version. It's nice, although it's not an official release and is still leagues better than 2.1.x and 2.2. Would get a good argument from me about how it compares with 2.2.1..
gingerbread
its only a beta the official version will be better!
sdolgy said:
- default internet browser is horrifically slow, even with no other apps running in the background
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Is this with plugins enabled or disabled (on demand)?
sdolgy said:
... wifi is interesting. it works, but i don't get full signal strength notification even when next to the access point...
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What makes the wifi interesting? Should it really be in 'Good' seeing as though you dont get full signal strength?
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felleese said:
What makes the wifi interesting? Should it really be in 'Good' seeing as though you dont get full signal strength?
Thanks
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Well, for me, I am not downloading torrents on my phone. When I want to download, via wifi, apps from the market or something with dropbox, the wifi isn't not letting me down. I think there's a disconnect between what the graphic is reporting and the actual level.
It's good because it still works and is functional and allows me to keep using this on a daily basis despite its status.
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its only a beta the official version will be better!
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no doubt. not at all complaining. just wanted to document on my side what was working and not working so that i can compare in the future or maybe someone has a suggestion .. like the one about my default internet browser and plugins.
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Is this with plugins enabled or disabled (on demand)?
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Plugin setting is configured to "on demand"
Swype don't work.
GPS no satellites found.
Maybe we can compile a buglist?
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well its very early to give impression but its memory hungry battery hungry proned to black outs but to be honest when the bits all run nicely its good ive been running it over 24 hours now apart from mentioned problems its smooth looking forward to updates maybeys they will change ui and give us a few of the gingerbread goodies we all wanted ie tv of --3d apps screen and so on if you go settings then about and repeatadly press on version 2.3.2 i think about ten presses see gingerbreads easter egg at least they left us that lol enjoy egg hunting
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Thats a good idea.. Not only might it help Samsung, but it will discourage people from running it (and later whinging).
i got it running for a few hours and i generally enjoyed it, but the keyboard has no bulgarian (well it have in the options but it does not work) and if you run out of ram you are screwed (the phone hangs or gets tooo slow ).
as said samsung apps doesn`t work and the gallery freezes very often...
i hate that samsung removed the fancy animations and the black menu bar....
There's like no gingerbread keyboard and launcher
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1-3D performance
It's not as good as it was on 2.2.1. If you test some 3D games like NFS Shift, you culd see that it doesnt run so well as it did on 2.2.1
Some people even reports that they can’t even run lot of 3D games.
2-GPS
There are reports of a good gps performance, but I have read somewhere that it's contanstly throwing some kind of errors or bugs, I don't know how to check that. I guess they know it thanks to logcat or something like that.
According to what I could read on another forum they changed lot of gps files nad not is very similar to the ones of Nexus S, that's a good thing...
3-Keyboard
It’s also a shame that they didn’t include gingerboard keyboard…
PS: Some people might think that this thread isn’t useful, but as we are being kind of betatesters for Samsung it would be nice if we use this post only to report the most common bugs founds, so maybe Samsung could have a look at it and solve it faster.
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Try to use supercurio kernel with voodoo lagfix enabled and it should solve the problem. Works for me when I used to have same internet browser issue like you
Skyfire is working very slow, I'm unable to watch ***videos
hiraj_panosian said:
Skyfire is working very slow, I'm unable to watch ***videos
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Same here, it was so slow till i had to restart my i9000.
I've been using it for the last two days now (one of them with Supercurio's Voodoo Hack) and I've been happy with it in some parts, but quite unhappy in others.
Lag:
First of all, it seems the "Lag" that was fixed in 2.2.1 is back. Especially with memory-Hungry applications like the Browser, the phone tends to just freeze up for a few minutes without really doing much. I even had to pull the battery one time. This does happen less with the voodoo-fix, but it's still noticeable. Flash also does barely work.
Gingerbread features:
The new Gyroscope-Driver seems to work and it works really well. Skymap and Starchart both looked a LOT better when using them, no fidgeting around all the time anymore.
The new Gingerbread animations are NOT present in this rom. It seems like Samsung thinks they don't fit into TouchWiz, which is a shame. So no glowing edges when overscrolling and no screen-off or screen-on animation.
3D Performance pretty much seems to be the same as on 2.2.1 Games load a little slower, but I think that's mostly because we're using an un-optimized kernel.
The Bluetooth-Driver unfortunately still is the same as in Previous versions. So Neither Wiiremote nor PS3 will pair with the SGS, unlike on Cyanogenmod.
Samsung-Stuff:
As was stated before, Swype does not work. However, I am in the Swype beta and was able to install the Beta of Swype into this rom after deleting the normal swype with root explorer. It works fine, even Voice input does work.
All in all, it is clear that this is beta-firmware and it doesn't really offer much in terms of improvement over 2.2.1, at least not yet. Cyanogenmod 7, even tho it supports less hardware and is more unstable, runs a LOT faster and smoother than this, is more customizable and uses more of the new Gingerbread features.
For now, I'll be going back to 2.2.1, it's more useful as a daily driver, but this at least looks promising so far.
Reverting back to 2.2.1. 2.3.2 is way too slow.
Well considering this is a beta it seems alot of the features that are suppose to be in the final build are here left out. That will give the reason for quite some things missing ( some animations, effects, lock screens, keyboards....) Plus also cause of the beta build maybe even alpha who knows, the performance for me is really bad, it feels twice as laggy compared to the 2.2.1 releases. All in all this build is an striped down, not optimized build for the samsung devs i guess. We will have to wait for a better build leak. Cheers !
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Reverting back to 2.2.1. 2.3.2 is way too slow.
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Agreed, I switched back to JS5, but for the moment I'm keeping JVE modem. It performs WAY better for me. No random UMTS-disconnects.
But as others said, it's just a beta.
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FM radio, the most used app i have continues to work nicely
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Is it stereo ?
We all know Android has that 'lag'. Is your phone laggy?
I've done everything and my Play is still laggy
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We all know Android has that 'lag'. Is your phone laggy?
I've done everything and my Play is still laggy
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Just got Xperia play today and I'm dissapointed majorly with it.
I have a Droid X and it never lags
running GummyJAR minimal ROM. 1ghz TI processor 512 ram.
Never misses a beat
I got this loaded crap Xperia and the thing is the slowest android device i have ever messed with. even slower then my friends Ereader. How can this be possible.
I agree the XP is a laggy machine
No lag here, 2.3.4 stock carrier free firmware. Rooted. Nothing frozen. Stock sd card.
I've had it for about 8 months now. Deleted all of the bloatware, deleted the useless apps. Cleared cache every time once in a while and still.
Switching between Sony Home 2.0 and LauncherProPlus(using the two) and still.
Same as swebosdev. No lag on 2.3.4. Everything from menus to transitions to most games have been silky smooth. Especially since I got launcherpro.
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Lies,I'm sure there is lag. Video or GTFO.
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Lies,I'm sure there is lag. Video or GTFO.
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Delete bloatware/memory hogging laggy apps instead of complaining, or install fresh 2.3.4
I'm running stock ROM, used root explorer to delete all the bloatware and lag free... things pretty snappy. Then again I'm on Verizon and its running stock vanilla gingerbread, well minus the crapware Verizon installed..... but yup pretty fast. And now that I have it overclocked to 1.4ghz zoom. But it was fast even before. Have you tried deleting the bloatware? Made my phone so much faster. That and supercharger script. Those are the two I would recommend as a must. Bloatware gone and run the supercharger script. World of difference.
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No lag here - using stock launcher.
The stock web browser is pretty slow though, but I use Opera Mobile which is supposed to be hardware accelerated and it is visibly much smoother than stock.
GetPatriotized said:
Lies,I'm sure there is lag. Video or GTFO.
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I have no reason to bs you, im very happy with my phone.
ff7fan4eva said:
Delete bloatware/memory hogging laggy apps instead of complaining, or install fresh 2.3.4
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Reflashed twice in 3 days. Deleted everything I didn't need. I'm not complaining. I'm just wondering if they're experiencing lag on their PLAYs.
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I have no reason to bs you, im very happy with my phone.
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It's weird then. Your previous phone must of been ancient if you think the phone is fast as it is.
GetPatriotized said:
Reflashed twice in 3 days. Deleted everything I didn't need. I'm not complaining. I'm just wondering if they're experiencing lag on their PLAYs.
It's weird then. Your previous phone must of been ancient if you think the phone is fast as it is.
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My last phone was a Desire HD and my play is much faster and less laggy. Infact the only time it lags is if im installing apps from the market.
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I've tweaked my XPlay's performance a lot, and as long as nothing is downloading in the background, it's super fast (especially because of DooMKerneL)
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It's weird then. Your previous phone must of been ancient if you think the phone is fast as it is.
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You could be right as phones tend to last years for me. My previous phone was a bb9700, i passed it down to the wife so i could buy this one.
Have had it since may, never been a single issue with errors or lag.
Thats not to say im out of the performance loop as my focus was and still is in tablets. Done alot of work with froyo, webos,Maemo.
Yes my phone does lag occasionally, but for basic functions like Texting, calling, etc.. It's fine. I just installed the v8 supercharger script today so I will see if that helps.
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do you need the bootloader unlocked to install the v8 supercharger script or just rooted?
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do you need the bootloader unlocked to install the v8 supercharger script or just rooted?
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Rooted and with busybox installed (look in android market for busybox installer). Busybox version between 1.16.2 & 1.18.2 are recommended I believe.
EDIT: Pretty sure it's v6 also, not v8. Unless that's a new beta or something
I just installed the script myself, it does seem to make my phone a bit snappier!
No lag here for me. Go to Settings -> Applications -> Running Services and check how many processes are listed there, I only have 4/5.
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Delete bloatware/memory hogging laggy apps instead of complaining, or install fresh 2.3.4
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Actually, one has every right to complain that it comes essentially broken out of the box unless you void your warranty. AT&T in particular crippled the phone so much that it became unusable after allowing a few included apps to download their files and installing a couple more apps from the market, assuming you set up Facebook and all the accounts during initial setup like a good little user. It's because they only left 100MB of internal storage available and run an absolute crap-load of processes in the background. Granted, it may not be the phone's fault, but you should not have to void your warranty or be some XDA-guru to use it.
Looks like facebook messenger is the problem
If anyone here is dubious or HATES the offical somewhat intrusive Facebook app should check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-facebook-browser-t2864561
A very well made minimal Facebook brower app - that does away with alot of crap, give it a try :good:
What drew you to this conclusion?
I reset my phone using safe mode everything was uninstalled as soon as I installed messenger lag was back
Funny how everyone complains about lag but I don't have any on my device ... Guess I'm the lucky one
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I have to say I read this post thinking man what a daft suggestion. Turns out uninstalled messenger. Can't get the phone to lag at all.....before I was getting redraw on the homescreen everytime and laggy scrolling always!
Nothing improved. :/
Ya, I don't get the whole complaining of the lag issue. I'm sure it's installed apps that they keep sync on all the time.
I removed the stock keyboard and launcher and it's running as smooth as can be.
Well I was really surprised, my Nexus 5 is massively fast in comparison. Having a said that since removing messenger it's easily as fast as my Nexus if not faster.
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Well I was really surprised, my Nexus 5 is massively fast in comparison. Having a said that since removing messenger it's easily as fast as my Nexus if not faster.
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Stock Android is almost 100% of the time faster than these custom manufacturer shells
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Stock Android is almost 100% of the time faster than these custom manufacturer shells
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Of course! I've been using Nexus devices exclusively for a good while for this reason but just loved the G3 too much!