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what is going on with the custom roms on this forum? seems like there is no real action? the custom roms that are available are very buggy and no updates.... anyone know? did most of the developers leave? I know mdeejay from virtuous and he's awesome, wth happen that caused him to leave?
Nothing happened, that's the problem. When Acer releases their 3.2 update then you should see some action. I am betting no dev wants to work on a "test" build and would rather build off the official Acer update coming in a few days (or it better).
I think the lack of development has more to do with not having source code. At this point all the roms are just slimmed down hacked/ports of the original release. If source is ever released then we will see some serious action,
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Yes, I expect Acer will release source with the update as most manufacturers do. No reason to keep the source private.
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Acer can release kernel source any time but google isn't releasing HC source. Wait for ice cream sandwich. That release will include source code.
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will we get the ice cream sandwhich update for our devices.......
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I seriously don't think I9000 will get any update beyond 2.3.x
Me to..i think dont.. But hey.. We already got ton of talent dev Here..maybe we still can taste of ics..
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I will say ...
We have to look at nexus s first
Officially? Maybe.
CM7 Version? Most definitely.
For now you guys might want to try the ICS Launcher. It's currently taken down from the Market, but if you Google it you can still download it from their website for free...
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Beware the ICS launcher - the one I downloaded requested permission to dial out, so I didn't take any risk and deleted it immediately.
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Beware the ICS launcher - the one I downloaded requested permission to dial out, so I didn't take any risk and deleted it immediately.
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I believe all lauchers do.
I guess ICS source code should be published first , in order for the cm7 team adopts it.
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I think our phone will get ICS officially from samsung.Dont forget SGS was samsung flagship and it is this phone only that turned samsung into android champion.You see samsung is updating SGS as fast as SGS II
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I think we will and should get it as galaxy s has a very capable hardware.
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Think so. have nothing official to base this statement on but I really think so. i'm not seeing google leaving nexus s on 2.3 without an update to ICS, even with a new phone coming up, and galaxy s has just about the same hardware.
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And they want to avoid fragmentation so they should update us as well.
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I read somewhere that any device capable of running gingerbread would be updated to ICS
I don't see any reason they won't provide an update to ICS... after all this phone was produced merely about a year ago, and is still one of the best (despite the fact that Samsung completely messed up with the RFS file system...) .
Ive also heard that any device capable of running GB will be able to run ICS, however the only thing that may hold the phone back is the limited ram :/
I do however hope we get ICS!!!
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I read somewhere that any device capable of running gingerbread would be updated to ICS
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Maybe here ?
"At Google I/O I asked the Android team if Ice Cream Sandwich had any special hardware requirements that would prevent it from running on existing smartphones. They didn’t name specific handsets, but we were told that most phones which could run Android 2.3 would be able to handle the update. That doesn’t guarantee anything for current Android smartphone owners, but we expect Google’s own Nexus One and Nexus S will be some of the first devices upgraded to Android 4.0."
source: androidandme.com
This is interesting too:
"If you are a fan of custom ROMs, then you will be happy to know that Google plans to release Ice Cream Sandwich to the Android Open Source Project. Google typically releases the source code to each version of Android a few months after it debuts on a new device, but they chose not to do this with Honeycomb. Andy Rubin said Google wanted to prevent developers from putting the software on phones “and creating a really bad user experience. We have no idea if it will even work on phones.”
Ice Cream Sandwich will be available for the development community to hack to their hearts’ content and I’m sure we will see CyanogenMod 8 a month after the source code is public."
...............And maybe that Samsung could surprise us with a ICS firmware for i9000...
I think our SGS will get ICS officialy, btw I don't think it will bring any major improvement (as happened with gingerbread).
However it would be better to be updated because some new apps probably will only work on ICS.
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I think our SGS will get ICS officialy, btw I don't think it will bring any major improvement (as happened with gingerbread).
However it would be better to be updated because some new apps probably will only work on ICS.
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One big: Hardware accelerated UI (and the sgx540 still a really good gpu).
After that, i think you can say it's smoother than ever on your i9000
Why would launcher need to dial out? You have a dialer / phone apk for that, I guess.
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sgs has had enough updates there r new phones like sgs2 an the comming soon so thier prefrence will b first an hardware wise those will run better....i dont like the gb on sgs , i got sgs2 an the gb works kool....i think eclair,froyo were the best to perform on sgs....
more ever dev creat a good custum rom so (don expect much)..........cheeerz
Anyone got any ideas for roms? Not ics.
Anything specific? I'm going to make one, but I need ideas
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Sense 3.5
Bliss base
Runny nav bar
No bloat
Runs perfect without swap
Or maybe u wanna port Android evolution or Runnymede desire rom by sebastian15? The latter is a great rom
Yeah, the DZ community has a love/hate relationship with 3.5 sense rom, so a one running smoothly without swap, no bloat, nicely themed (easy on the eyes ), is a way to go.
There are alot of sense 3.5 roms for the DZ. I've tried them all (literally), so far the Bliss sense and the NRG 3.5 sense roms are good, other I had trouble with (laggy, slow, crashes...).
MIUI, seen one seen them all, although popular you will be just one in a bucket of full pretty good and functional MIUI roms.
Stock g2 or AOSP also, there are alot of them for the DZ, there has to be yet an AOSP that can beat the awesome CM 7 rom.
If you make it really try hard to stand out, cause it will be burred soon under the mentioned ones.
You could try porting a weird obscure ROM that nobody has really seen much of. I remember using a ROM by SiulMagic called LiquidM_Villain, its basically an Acer modified version of Froyo. I used it for a few weeks before leaving because I missed Gingerbread, but it was quite a neat ROM. Theres a Gingerbread version around now that could be ported? Or maybe theres another modified version of Android that nobody really sees much of?
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You could try porting a weird obscure ROM that nobody has really seen much of. I remember using a ROM by SiulMagic called LiquidM_Villain, its basically an Acer modified version of Froyo. I used it for a few weeks before leaving because I missed Gingerbread, but it was quite a neat ROM. Theres a Gingerbread version around now that could be ported? Or maybe theres another modified version of Android that nobody really sees much of?
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Lol or he could build cm7 for the acer liquid metal my wife has it, nice device but seriously lacking in the rom department. Taz if your interested fire me a pm, I have some background on the liquid and could help out you'd be a god on the liquid metal modaco forum
As for the g2 there isn't anything I can think of...we pretty much have everything except full ICS.
Taz I'm serious about the acer tho...pm me!
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Great idea: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416622
What specs does the acer have?
Also, will hopefully try my hand at that desire rom. Doesn't look too easy because of desire-specific things, but will try
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xT4Z1N4TRx said:
What specs does the acer have?
Also, will hopefully try my hand at that desire rom. Doesn't look too easy because of desire-specific things, but will try
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Lots of similarities with the DZ taz, same cpu, ill have to check again. But they've been trying to port cm7 from the DZ to the liquid MT, they almost have it but I think you could blow it out of the water.
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Lots of similarities with the DZ taz, same cpu, ill have to check again. But they've been trying to port cm7 from the DZ to the liquid MT, they almost have it but I think you could blow it out of the water.
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www.gsmarena.com/acer_liquid_mt-3519.php
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will have a look at that acer liquid
i am diong that runnymede one now, but am at a bootloop, trying to figure out how to get past it
Honeycomb?
I noticed the HC SDK 3.0 uses the GB launcher so...
Some other folks built and compiled HC for their phones too, off the SDK I believe.
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Honeycomb?
I noticed the HC SDK 3.0 uses the GB launcher so...
Some other folks built and compiled HC for their phones too, off the SDK I believe.
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Honeycomb is a bad idea when we have ICS being ported at the moment (which if you check the dev page, there's a thread with an almost complete port) since honeycomb was designed purely for tablets and is not meant for phones. A LOT of quite possibly pointless work would have to go in it.
take any existing ROM - figure out how to make it have even better reception in weak signal areas - and you will be a STAR on XDA!!
and start with the ROM that is the fastest, leanest, and has the best battery life and most free RAM of any ROM.........yes I am talking about G-Lite 2.0.1
My idea is the latest stock rom with nice tweaks and addons but that's just an idea... And maybe nobody likes it
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The ICS rom on Desire Z is out ? or it's still the alpha version ?
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...-jelly-bean-source-is-now-being-released-r955
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/07/09/android-4-1-jelly-bean-released-to-aosp-right-now/
Damn it you beat me to the punch lol
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CM10 soon!!!!!!
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hopefully we get CM9 support first
lets see how fast we see something for s3
MMontanez347 said:
hopefully we get CM9 support first
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Why would they make CM9 for this phone when JB source is released? Lol that makes absolutely no sense.
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Why would they make CM9 for this phone when JB source is released? Lol that makes absolutely no sense.
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I believe it was said that jb code is very similar to ics. Cm9 is very close for us. A stable cm9 to cm10 would probably be faster than cm10 built from scratch. Just a guess though, I'm not a dev.
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I believe it was said that jb code is very similar to ics. Cm9 is very close for us. A stable cm9 to cm10 would probably be faster than cm10 built from scratch. Just a guess though, I'm not a dev.
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Nah I mean working off of CM9 would make sense if they could just merge the changes but I doubt it would officially be released just for them to release CM10 after that.
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hopefully we get CM9 support first
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I really hope we get CM7 before that
/sarcasm
really? why would you want the outdated one?
The CM team is merging the update as we speak. I think we will probably just get CM10 and not CM9 first (could be wrong though)
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We will get CM10 before CM9. All development on CM9 is being ceased after version 1.0.0. Just be patient, the source was uploaded something like 2 or 3 hours ago.
I think we will have something by next week
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I think we will have something by next week
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I think we'll have something by tomorrow morning.. ;-)
Joking aside, this is cool to see.
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I think we'll have something by tomorrow morning.. ;-)
Joking aside, this is cool to see.
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Joke? don't underestimate the developers on THIS phone, of all phones ) I'm gonna definatelly keep an eye on these forums. if nothing else i expect someone starting a WIP thread, an AOSP built rom, most likely not fully functional ofcourse, but compiled enough to boot up, just to give us a taste while development begins in earnest
This is just what was needed to jump-start development for the SIII
I'm curious, with Verizon's S3 flashing abilities currently being limited to roms stripped of kernels, how will this affect a jellybean rom? Is the ics kernel the same as the jb kernel?
Just rambling here, no disrespect intended and none meant at all just want to learn as much as possible....ICS source has been available the whole time, why wouldn't we have seen a CM9 build if it were that simple (as to have source)? Just cause source for 4.1 is out, it is going to make it that much easier to build an AOSP rom now? Again just trying to learn I know people are pretty snappy at questions like these, lol.
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Just rambling here, no disrespect intended and none meant at all just want to learn as much as possible....ICS source has been available the whole time, why wouldn't we have seen a CM9 build if it were that simple (as to have source)? Just cause source for 4.1 is out, it is going to make it that much easier to build an AOSP rom now? Again just trying to learn I know people are pretty snappy at questions like these, lol.
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Reason people are saying that we could see CM10 soon is because the CM team think the code should be able to merge right into what they have with CM9, and not break that many things. With CM7 to CM9, they had to basically do everything from the ground up again because ICS was such a huge update over GB. Now JB isn't that big of an upgrade over ICS, in a way it is, but in a way it isn't. Sorry if that sounds confusing.
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Reason people are saying that we could see CM10 soon is because the CM team think the code should be able to merge right into what they have with CM9, and not break that many things. With CM7 to CM9, they had to basically do everything from the ground up again because ICS was such a huge update over GB. Now JB isn't that big of an upgrade over ICS, in a way it is, but in a way it isn't. Sorry if that sounds confusing.
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That's easy to understand, and not what I'm asking... what you are saying is its easy to incorporate 4.1 to 4.0, just like it was easy to go to 2.2 to 2.3... I'm asking why is everyone so excited to get 4.1 AOSP, when we don't even have 4.0 AOSP?
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Just rambling here, no disrespect intended and none meant at all just want to learn as much as possible....ICS source has been available the whole time, why wouldn't we have seen a CM9 build if it were that simple (as to have source)? Just cause source for 4.1 is out, it is going to make it that much easier to build an AOSP rom now? Again just trying to learn I know people are pretty snappy at questions like these, lol.
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I am no dev, but heres how i understand it works;
we start with an announcement of an OS, this is done generally at Google I/O or a Nexus Event, in this case was Google I/O.
On the announcement day, devs receive the SDK; Software Development Kit.
This is released to allow the devs to begin making apps that match and run on the new OS. However, aspiring rom devs then begin to build a rom off the released SDK, generally called an sdk port.
These tend to be made simply to give us an idea of how the system would work and function, and generally might boot up and have a couple working things, but major things tend not to function because the SDK is not made for that.
Then comes the Source code, this is the real deal, it is full code of the system, code that can then be compiled to produce a fully working system, or nearly fully working. Only thing that remains missing is proprietary drivers and such, these tend to be the things specific to each phone, files that would make particular chips work, particular functions, the specific phone kernel, etc. but once you have the source code, you're over 80% done as far as having the resources needed to develop a full rom. at this stage, some devs can produce a fully working, stellar rom, but it will take quite a bit more work than devs who choose to wait for the final stage
Then comes the OTA. this is where all the device-specific stuff comes to the devices, and devs have the absolute and complete freedom to produce a fully working, better than stock, experience. This is where roms flood the dev forums.
So as far as not having AOSP yet, and now this is our chance at AOSP? No, thats not why we dont have AOSP. we dont have it cause no one built it yet; the Touchwiz UX is sooo integrated in the system that untangling and taking it all out is a long and drawn out process, and theyd need to deconstruct what we currently have, take out elements of touchwiz until its all clean, all the while making sure it doesnt break anything else.
but getting the jellybean source code propels devs because now this is a new OS, a new AOSP with its own new interesting properties. and because Jelly bean is a small update compared to ICS, now that we have source code, many of the device specific stuff wont be broken by implementing jellybean code into it, therefore building a Jellybean rom is a faster path to AOSP than untangling the current ICS for Galaxy S III
Does that make sense?
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That's easy to understand, and not what I'm asking... what you are saying is its easy to incorporate 4.1 to 4.0, just like it was easy to go to 2.2 to 2.3... I'm asking why is everyone so excited to get 4.1 AOSP, when we don't even have 4.0 AOSP?
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AOSP in this case is talking about the actual Android Open Source Project. so it is a bunch of code. so why are we excited? we've had ICS AOSP code for nearly a year now, what we dont have is AOSP roms. building an ICS AOSP rom is much harder than building a JB Rom, and we currently have icecream sandwich on the SIII even if its touchwized, and undoing touchwiz is quite a bit of work. but Jellybean...Oh Jellybean, now we got the source, we will start getting that baby soon and it'll boost dev on these devices. make sense?
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That's easy to understand, and not what I'm asking... what you are saying is its easy to incorporate 4.1 to 4.0, just like it was easy to go to 2.2 to 2.3... I'm asking why is everyone so excited to get 4.1 AOSP, when we don't even have 4.0 AOSP?
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Not sure if you were trying to come off rude or not, but people are excited because its the newest update, duh. Reason being we don't have 4.0 AOSP is because the phone hasn't been out that long for the US carriers.
Title is self-explanatory.
In my experience, I found that CM9 was much more stable than CM10 - despite both having the same 'Nvidia libs' issue. CM10 also had the issue where mobile data doesn't work.
There are also other niggles, such as flash not being compatible with JB.
However, CM10 is in its very early days, so this could be an unfair comparison. Which leads me to think that maybe CM10 could be better for the long term - as development on CM9 is likely to slow down. I get the impression that CM10 could reach CM9 stability soon and personally, 'project butter' sure seems interesting to me...
What do you think?
Maybe both?? :fingers-crossed:
I vote CM10, I think it'll be a better investment in the long run.
both :good:
Def CM10, even if it's on early stage, that's the way to go, CM9 leads to CM10, and i've read many people saying CM10 is far much smoother than CM9.
(But i can't tell, i'm stuck with CM7 because of you :good
I just hope Motorola will give us ICS in time...
Just my two cents
CM10 would probably be the better way to go, but not until the proper drivers are available. CM7 may be "outdated" (which IMHO is horse****), but it's incredibly stable and reliable, which CM9 and CM10 are not (despite the commendable hard work by joker, turl, epinter and others, who are doing their absolute best with what they have to work with).
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I vote cm10.
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I suppose 10. Both have problems. Might as well go with the up to date problem.
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is it selfish to ask for both? =)
i say cm10.. it just feels like those drivers are right around the corner and that being the case cm10 stability is there too. so may as well start now?
I've voted for CM10. But I'd rather say that for now there is no sense to start developing CM10 or CM9 Neutrino for the lack of libs sources and appropriate kernel version. We already have tons of CM9 and CM10 unofficial mods that don't work in a propper way - problems with camera, UIs, hardware accelaration, etc. So I'd like to advice you to what for official ICS firmware or official version from Cyanogenmod (if it will be) and then start developing and modding in order to work out a stable completely functioning and suitable for everyday use mod unless you able to develop its yourself without official ICS.
In any way thanks for you servey and you Neutrino rom that is really pretty good.
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I've voted for CM10. But I'd rather say that for now there is no sense to start developing CM10 or CM9 Neutrino for the lack of libs sources and appropriate kernel version. We already have tons of CM9 and CM10 unofficial mods that don't work in a propper way - problems with camera, UIs, hardware accelaration, etc. So I'd like to advice you to what for official ICS firmware or official version from Cyanogenmod (if it will be) and then start developing and modding in order to work out a stable completely functioning and suitable for everyday use mod unless you able to develop its yourself without official ICS.
In any way thanks for you servey and you Neutrino rom that is really pretty good.
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Let's be realistic here, Motorola and Nvidea will not release ICS, nor any drivers.
We all know their reputation better than anybody else.
I think that CM10 is the better
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i say cm10 skip cm9. you have a good stable cm7 to hold me over till cm10 no need for baby steps up to latest if its in the works.
While I think it'd be great to see both, I think CM9 would be taking away time that could be spent on improving CM10.
CM10 please.
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Thanks for the great efforts!
i will use your rom no matter which one.
I vote Cm10.
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Let's be realistic here, Motorola and Nvidea will not release ICS, nor any drivers.
We all know their reputation better than anybody else.
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Not all of us are as pessimistic as you are, thankfully. Until we get definitive proof that this is the case, I'll ignore the Chicken Littles and remain hopeful, if that's okay with you.
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Of cause CM10. And I think jokersax 's should be the base. All other roms based on it. It is most close (or pure) CM.
Waiting for next best Atrix rom
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