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I have just got back to china with my universal and am trying to figure out how to get 3g connected.
Currently there are 2 options available for which type of service I can get. One is CDMA 2000 and TD-SCDMA (the chinese standard).
The problem is on my phone the only settings available are WCDMA, which is currently not available although I have been told it will be available in the future.
Is there any way that I can configure my Uni to be able to connect to either of the other 2 networks?
I'm using the Tomal 8.5 rom, in case that has any relevance.
Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere, i did have a good look around first.
ringsting said:
I have just got back to china with my universal and am trying to figure out how to get 3g connected.
Currently there are 2 options available for which type of service I can get. One is CDMA 2000 and TD-SCDMA (the chinese standard).
The problem is on my phone the only settings available are WCDMA, which is currently not available although I have been told it will be available in the future.
Is there any way that I can configure my Uni to be able to connect to either of the other 2 networks?
I'm using the Tomal 8.5 rom, in case that has any relevance.
Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere, i did have a good look around first.
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As fas as I know this is a hardware issue so there is no configuration to make it work with 3G in China, it is the same for me in México, I can´t use 3G network
bummer, guess I'll just have to wait for the wcdma
I am also in China and anxiously waiting for July when they've announced full 3G for my city WooWoo
Hey Ringsting, what do you usually use the universal for? I go to China from time to time... you can still use GPRS GSM network, and the prices are quite cheap~
ringsting said:
I have just got back to china with my universal and am trying to figure out how to get 3g connected.
Currently there are 2 options available for which type of service I can get. One is CDMA 2000 and TD-SCDMA (the chinese standard).
The problem is on my phone the only settings available are WCDMA, which is currently not available although I have been told it will be available in the future.
Is there any way that I can configure my Uni to be able to connect to either of the other 2 networks?
I'm using the Tomal 8.5 rom, in case that has any relevance.
Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere, i did have a good look around first.
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SOG said:
Hey Ringsting, what do you usually use the universal for? I go to China from time to time... you can still use GPRS GSM network, and the prices are quite cheap~
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That´s correct!
And so far I am happy with the quality signal (Almost everywhere!)
hello guys,
i want to clear some of my issues here, so guys please help me out (and please don't suggest me to buy a new phone as i don't like WM7 nor android nor iOS but i like windows 6.5 and wants to test some things on this phone only)
so i have done my homework(just a bit) and checked this comparison between both of them and found only a few things are different, here they are
gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3228&idPhone2=2957
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T-Mobile HD2 HTC HD2
1. 3G Network : HSDPA 1700 / 2100 HSDPA 900 / 2100
HSDPA 850 / 2100 - Australian Version
2. Dimensions : 122 x 67 x 11 mm 120.5 x 67 x 11 mm
3. Memory(Internal) : 576 MB RAM, 1 GB ROM 448 MB RAM, 512 MB ROM
4. WLAN : Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g, Wi-Fi router
1. i want to use this phone in India so does the point no. 1 concerns me ???
2. i don't care about this difference
3. this is the major thing what i want to know , tell me everything that what differences does 512MB ROM can make.
4. i think that's just a typo error and HTC HD2 also have Wi-Fi router, if i'm wrong please tell me what does it do.
+ one more thing i want to know is how loud is the speaker sound is(for ringtones) in comparison to HTC Touch Diamond(i already got this one).
i have heard that radio version of T-Mobile HD2 is something weird , so it doesn't support most of the ROM's and people can brick this easily(accidently).
Note : i want to check Android OS's , WM7 OS and ubuntu too , so keeping that in mind and suggest me that if T-Mobile with 576 MB RAM, 1 GB ROM is better or the other one .
Thanx for reading this
The only difference is ROM, 1GB in TMOUS and 512MB in international version.
Radio bricks? You can cause them only if you install wrong Windows Mobile ROM or very old radio. If you want to stick to Android and WP7, there's nothing you should worry about.
1 pretty sure most networks in India use the 2100 so should be fine. If you intend to do any travelling though, the regular will have a bit more roaming compatibility.
3 with the correct rom radio and spl combination the regular hd2 also has 576m ram, and besides, 448 is usually plenty. Check the Artemis winmo6.5 rom, it doesn't use the extra ram and doesn't suffer for it.
That just leaves the double internal rom. If/when magldr 2 gets released, you'll be able to have multiple OS's in nand, in which case the extra 512meg will be really useful, but for now, with android using a2sd to simulate internal memory on the SD its not a big difference.
The big difference as you noted (incorrect reasoning, but it does lead to a brick) is the radio.
Regular can use any radio, but must use a T-Mobile (tmous) radio if you want to unlock the extra ram or use android/wp7/magldr.
Radios are told apart by the code,,,
x.xx.50 are tmous,
x.xx.51 for regular, however since the later regular roms started shipping with 50 radios too, most people just set something like 2.15.50 and forget about it.
It boils down to "never flash a regular hd2 stock rom to a tmous, its radio will brick it.
most important thing is buying a good device & not really so important in terms of TMOUS or International.
1GB ROM is nice on the TMOUS but a good working device preferably new & not from eBay & the likes is the main thing of concern.
TMOUS 3G band issues is not a great concern & I have used mine in many countries on 3G with no issues yet.
Just go with the best & newest you can get hold of.
thanx for the fast replies guys
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so you mean if i install a false ROM of 6.5 only than there are chances of getting the device bricked but i try Android(ICSW) and WP7 its safe ??
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@samsamuel :::
if 2100 works in India i'll be fine than(no plans for travelling in near future), BTW what exactly is magldr 2 ? and is that extra 512MB ROM makes any difference in interface speed of WP7 or Android(if we install them)
what if install a false radio and get bricked.....is that mean we will be stuck on a black screen for ever and no coming back to official ROM ??
what is a nand ?
i gurss you haven't check the 4th point of WLAN and what about loudness of speaker in comparison to touch diamond ?
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@Mister B :::
thanx for the suggestion dear but i really don't want to buy a newest model, and why not to buy it from ebay ?
and i really don't have a plan to travel in near future , so no need to worry about the band issues
buy hd2 new if possible not a newest model.
ebay is full of defect devices, it is quite a risk.
I have tested hd2 tmous in many countries over last 2years & 1700/2100 3g bands have been no issue for me ...
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well as i live in INDIA and here i couldn't find a box pack model so gonna get it from ebay.com only coz amazon don't ship to india.........BTW planning to buy a brand new but used one's are also available here on Indian ebay.in
Question . : even the brand new phone have defects from ebay ?? is that a personal experience ?
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@samsamuel :::
if 2100 works in India i'll be fine than(no plans for travelling in near future), BTW what exactly is magldr 2 ?
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magldr is a custom bootloader used to load wp7/android.
and is that extra 512MB ROM makes any difference in interface speed of WP7 or Android(if we install them)
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it may help to have the whole rom on the same memory chip, but in general i doubt it. so long as the sd card is a decent one, and the rom you install is working right (not an alpha/beta) then you shouldn't see any difference.
what if install a false radio and get bricked.....is that mean we will be stuck on a black screen for ever and no coming back to official ROM ??
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JTAG will fix it. (dont ask, look it up if you wanna know what it is)
what is a nand ?
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the internal memory chip, the read only memory, , the internal storage chip, it is 'nand' flash memory, hence we call it 'nand' or 'the nand' as in ' im dual booting wp7 from the nand, gingerbread android from sd'
i gurss you haven't check the 4th point of WLAN
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didnt bother reading that far, , , there are no differences in wifi.
and what about loudness of speaker in comparison to touch diamond ?
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couldnt say. what i CAN say is its very dependant on what you are running, most winmo roms are fine, i think i remember hearing that wp7 was a bit loud, and i find android just a little quiet.
@samsamuel : thanx for all these detailed answers man......
some few more questions here(sorry)
check this thread ::: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786261
Q. does that mean i can't use this device in India ?
Q. can we flash Win 7 to nand ?
Q. what you suggest a T-Mobile HD2 or the HTC HD2 ?
Q. any site with internationl shipping(and what maximum price you suggest) ?
Q. what are the different-different models available for HD2, like HD2 T8585 , HD2 Leo 100 and some others.....are they any different ??
again a big thanx man
Mister B said:
buy hd2 new if possible not a newest model.
ebay is full of defect devices, it is quite a risk.
I have tested hd2 tmous in many countries over last 2years & 1700/2100 3g bands have been no issue for me ...
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even i would like to know the same thing as i have just bought this phone from ebay.com.
He is saying its WP6.5 stock and sealed and all.
what possible defect are you talking about ?
amitkool21 said:
@samsamuel : thanx for all these detailed answers man......
some few more questions here(sorry)
check this thread ::: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786261
Q. does that mean i can't use this device in India ?
you can use this device in india
Q. can we flash Win 7 to nand ?
we can flash win7 only to nand. android is installed in SD
Q. what you suggest a T-Mobile HD2 or the HTC HD2 ?
its same. because NAND is just a ROM, where win 7 will be installed. As stated unless MGLDR 2 doesn't come out and you want to install both OS in NAND. it makes no difference.
Q. any site with internationl shipping(and what maximum price you suggest) ?
i bought from ebay. waiting for it to get delivered.
Q. what are the different-different models available for HD2, like HD2 T8585 , HD2 Leo 100 and some others.....are they any different ??
HD2 T8585 is HD2 Leo which is HTC HD2. Its mentioned here:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_hd2-2957.php
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again a big thanx man
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tanush said:
even i would like to know the same thing as i have just bought this phone from ebay.com.
He is saying its WP6.5 stock and sealed and all.
what possible defect are you talking about ?
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@tanush : where you from(state) and have you bought it from ebay.com or ebay.in and a T-Mobile or a International Model ???
tanush said:
even i would like to know the same thing as i have just bought this phone from ebay.com.
He is saying its WP6.5 stock and sealed and all.
what possible defect are you talking about ?
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and can you please provide me the link of ebay listing.........???
amitkool21 said:
@samsamuel : thanx for all these detailed answers man......
some few more questions here(sorry)
check this thread ::: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786261
Q. does that mean i can't use this device in India ?
Q. can we flash Win 7 to nand ?
Q. what you suggest a T-Mobile HD2 or the HTC HD2 ?
Q. any site with internationl shipping(and what maximum price you suggest) ?
Q. what are the different-different models available for HD2, like HD2 T8585 , HD2 Leo 100 and some others.....are they any different ??
again a big thanx man
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and can you please provide me the link of ebay listing.........???
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ebay.com bro.. no listing in ebay.in
PMed you the link!
amitkool21 said:
@samsamuel : thanx for all these detailed answers man......
some few more questions here(sorry)
check this thread ::: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786261
Q. does that mean i can't use this device in India ?
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well, since you picked that post i shall assume you are using vodaphone, , , gsm will work because the hd2 (both types) are quad band, so that handles calls, gprs, and edge, and voda india puts out hsdpa at 900 and 2100, and both regular and tmous can handle 3g on 2100, while the regular can also handle hsdpa at 900, and you may find (i'll let you look it up, cos i couldsn't immediately see it) that in some countries more rural areas use 900 for 3g (beter range) while cities have 2100, (better building penetration) so it may be worth checking that you get 2100 in your area.
Q. can we flash Win 7 to nand ?
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only to nand.
Q. what you suggest a T-Mobile HD2 or the HTC HD2 ?
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i supose the real clincher is if you need the 900MHz to get 3g.(honestly, i dont think i'd like a tmous, i like the white keys of the regular, and i get too smoked late at night when playing with roms to feel comfortable with a phone that has an instant brick switch built in, so it'd be a regular hd2 for me, , im already 6 months into my second)
Q. what are the different-different models available for HD2, like HD2 T8585 , HD2 Leo 100 and some others.....are they any different ??
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t8585 - regular hd2
t9193 - telstra hd2, which is a regular hd2, but with different 3g frequencies, probably not what you're after.
leo 100 - htc code name for the t8585
again a big thanx man
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problem is a lot of so called new is not 100% new.
if lucky they have a few & they are old stock but unused.
If unlucky it could be handset returned after a few days with odd faults or service centre repaired units used for warranty exchange.
Chinese are experts at repackaging & tagging so you can be clueless.
Check the sellers feedback carefully: http://www.feedbackselector.com/
contact a couple of people who purchased hd2 or other similar listed phones from this seller.
I have had a few personal chats with xda members (last one was from india too) with bad eBay Hd2 experiences but most have been used Hd2s but do remember it so easy to lie & sell the sh1te you can't via standard retail via eBay at good profit level so buyer must take care.
Hope you have good purchases, best of luck
samsamuel said:
well, since you picked that post i shall assume you are using vodaphone, , , gsm will work because the hd2 (both types) are quad band, so that handles calls, gprs, and edge, and voda india puts out hsdpa at 900 and 2100, and both regular and tmous can handle 3g on 2100, while the regular can also handle hsdpa at 900, and you may find (i'll let you look it up, cos i couldsn't immediately see it) that in some countries more rural areas use 900 for 3g (beter range) while cities have 2100, (better building penetration) so it may be worth checking that you get 2100 in your area.only to nand.i supose the real clincher is if you need the 900MHz to get 3g.(honestly, i dont think i'd like a tmous, i like the white keys of the regular, and i get too smoked late at night when playing with roms to feel comfortable with a phone that has an instant brick switch built in, so it'd be a regular hd2 for me, , im already 6 months into my second)
t8585 - regular hd2
t9193 - telstra hd2, which is a regular hd2, but with different 3g frequencies, probably not what you're after.
leo 100 - htc code name for the t8585
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see... thats how i should have posted... I'll code from now on...
thanks for help!!!
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Mister B said:
problem is a lot of so called new is not 100% new.
if lucky they have a few & they are old stock but unused.
If unlucky it could be handset returned after a few days with odd faults or service centre repaired units used for warranty exchange.
Chinese are experts at repackaging & tagging so you can be clueless.
Check the sellers feedback carefully: http://www.feedbackselector.com/
contact a couple of people who purchased hd2 or other similar listed phones from this seller.
I have had a few personal chats with xda members (last one was from india too) with bad eBay Hd2 experiences but most have been used Hd2s but do remember it so easy to lie & sell the sh1te you can't via standard retail via eBay at good profit level so buyer must take care.
Hope you have good purchases, best of luck
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There's nothing I can do know... Already bought.. Just have to play the waiting game....
thanks for telling me this website...
would be very useful from now on...
@samsamuel :
thanx man you are a life saver, is there anything i can do for you ??
BTW last set of Questions ........ any possibilities of magldr 2 release in near future ??
and is the speaker sound loud enough for ringtones ??
what do you mean by "im already 6 months into my second" and "instant brick switch built in"(i guess the second phrase is for T-Mobile, bcoz of the radio bricking problem)
i also like the white keys of regular one(so i guess i'm going to order a regular one only, but lets wait for tanush's order when his is delivered, i'll ask him about the frequencies)
can you suggest me a good seller on ebay(who sells genuine item only not refurbished ones)
thanx again
@Mister B :
i'll remember that sir , thanx
@tanush : good luck brother, do let us know when you get it
@samsamuel :
check this link for the frequencies used by Indian networks
roamtheworldcellphones.com/gsmindia[/url]
TMOUS 2G GSM is quad-band same as international:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
TMOUS 3G differs but still works on all 1900/2100 I have tried in UK,France, Germany, China, Hong Kong, Singapore.
3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100
Mister B said:
TMOUS 2G GSM is quad-band same as international:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
TMOUS 3G differs but still works on all 1900/2100 I have tried in UK,France, Germany, China, Hong Kong, Singapore.
3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100
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thanx but it says different here with general model >> HSDPA 900 / 2100
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3228&idPhone2=2957
Hi,
This thread is for Chinese or people who live in China. You can discuss problem related to the Chinese version of the phone.
In China we have the N7100/N7105 and N7102 versions
Re: [Official] Galaxy Note 2 for Chinese user
If some of you get the problem "NOT REGISTERED ON NETWORK" after flashing a custom ROM here is the solution(thanks to zuleamu.
Well to be honest zuleamu found the solution but it was there all along on this thread from Ariza27->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1918601
When you use Ariza27 solution don't be stiff and press the THANKS button.
Not a lot of Chinese users here.
Well, Chinese users usually prefer forums in Mandarin. I think the problems of the N7102 are pretty well documented in the N7102 thread. Any news if Samsung China has done anything to solve them?
hendrickchan said:
Well, Chinese users usually prefer forums in Mandarin.
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There is a lot of expat living in China(like me).
hendrickchan said:
I think the problems of the N7102 are pretty well documented in the N7102 thread. Any news if Samsung China has done anything to solve them?
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No news.
I bought N7100 at china i know it's nt real. so can I post my problem here?
Fyed said:
I bought N7100 at china i know it's nt real. so can I post my problem here?
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Well if you know it's a fake, there is not much we can do for you here.
I live in mainland China (Beijing) and own the GT-N7100; my unit is the international version from Hong Kong to be more precise.
The guy who sold the phone to me (a friend's friend...) said that it was lock-free and that I would be able to use any SIM card in it.
While it didn't matter too much at first, it does now. I bought a China Telecom SIM card hoping it would work but it doesn't seem to.
I don't know anything about phones to be honest, but I'm usually okay with electronics and gadgets and I've been playing around for a bit.
My problem is the following: When I scan for network, I am only able to find CMCC (China Mobile) and China Unicom networks. I tried changing some stuff in the settings and playing with the *#197328640# menu, following my friend's advice, but it didn't help.
Is that specific model incompatible with China Telecom networks and unable to use CDMA2000? (It's supposedly unlocked/sim free....)
My baseband version is N7100BUALI8 and the build number is JRO03C.N7100ZSALJ2.
As I said, I don't understand phones too well yet. I read those forums a bit but I'm still confused.
Is my modem not adapted to mobile networks in China? Do I need to change settings somewhere?
I didn't root the phone either by the way.
Please Haaaalp!
Hey, in reference to the China Telecom...I am not sure that you will be able to access that network, I am not sure about the technology that they use. I know that you can use EDGE with either China Mobile or China Unicom, but, I know that Telecom sometimes uses some lesser-known standards for 3G. I have never actually tried to use their GSM network, as over my 10 years here, I have never had access to it. I don't know how helpful that is...
I also use N7100 (International Unlocked Version) in Shanghai. I only have access to China Mobile (2G) and China Unicom (3G).
CDMA is not a GSM compatible technology.
Rooting only has to do with the file structure, nothing to do with the modem on the phone.
Anyways, I hope something I said helps.
TheWired said:
I live in mainland China (Beijing) and own the GT-N7100; my unit is the international version from Hong Kong to be more precise.
The guy who sold the phone to me (a friend's friend...) said that it was lock-free and that I would be able to use any SIM card in it.
While it didn't matter too much at first, it does now. I bought a China Telecom SIM card hoping it would work but it doesn't seem to.
I don't know anything about phones to be honest, but I'm usually okay with electronics and gadgets and I've been playing around for a bit.
My problem is the following: When I scan for network, I am only able to find CMCC (China Mobile) and China Unicom networks. I tried changing some stuff in the settings and playing with the *#197328640# menu, following my friend's advice, but it didn't help.
Is that specific model incompatible with China Telecom networks and unable to use CDMA2000? (It's supposedly unlocked/sim free....)
My baseband version is N7100BUALI8 and the build number is JRO03C.N7100ZSALJ2.
As I said, I don't understand phones too well yet. I read those forums a bit but I'm still confused.
Is my modem not adapted to mobile networks in China? Do I need to change settings somewhere?
I didn't root the phone either by the way.
Please Haaaalp!
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Cda9er is right above. China Telecom doesnt use GSM technology as long as i think as they are using CDMA for their network.
China mobile - GSM for 2G but TD-SCDMA for 3G
China Unicom - GSM for both 2G and 3G (Perfect for our internation GT-N7100)
China Telecom - CDMA for 2G and 3G (I think)
So you can either use 2G china mobile as i am using or use 3G from China Unicom. Hope this helps.
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Cda9er is right above. China Telecom doesnt use GSM technology as long as i think as they are using CDMA for their network.
China mobile - GSM for 2G but TD-SCDMA for 3G
China Unicom - GSM for both 2G and 3G (Perfect for our internation GT-N7100)
China Telecom - CDMA for 2G and 3G (I think)
So you can either use 2G china mobile as i am using or use 3G from China Unicom. Hope this helps.
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I'd like to thank both of you for clarifying that! Exactly the answer I was looking for.
I had the feeling that it had to do with the technology used by the different phone companies.
I've been with China Unicom for a year now but I find their connection very unreliable.
Their 3G plans are kind of expensive and the network has a lot of weak/blind spots... I'll probably resell this phone and get another one compatible with China Telecom.
Thanks for all the replies guys!
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TD-SCDMA is China mobile home grown 3G. You need their own phone to use their 3G and it's not as fast as the China Unicom. Normal N7100 won't have 3G on their network.
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Hi everyone. I hope brothers from China will try the latest DMC1 firmware and tell us the xhanges, improvements or new features... By now it is aviable through Kies..
It is not for N7102, but for N7100ZCDMC1
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If anyone tried it please give us some feedback:good:
I'm going to stay in Guangzhou for a few months, looks like China Unicom is the only option. How much are the sim cards ?, I'm not too bothered about calls more interested in the mobile internet a few hundred MB should be ok.
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I'm going to stay in Guangzhou for a few months, looks like China Unicom is the only option. How much are the sim cards ?, I'm not too bothered about calls more interested in the mobile internet a few hundred MB should be ok.
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I pay 39RMB(6 USD)/month for 600MB of 3G and it includes some calls and sms(I don't know how many) but my wife pays 29RMB(4.60USD) and she has 360MB/3G and she make a lot of phone calls and sms and she never runs out.
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I pay 39RMB(6 USD)/month for 600MB of 3G and it includes some calls and sms(I don't know how many) but my wife pays 29RMB(4.60USD) and she has 360MB/3G and she make a lot of phone calls and sms and she never runs out.
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Sounds good, so I assume it's ok to purchase just a sim on it's own and do you have to pay upfront for the whole 12 months ?.
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Sounds good, so I assume it's ok to purchase just a sim on it's own and do you have to pay upfront for the whole 12 months ?.
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No need to pay 12 months in advance. But you need to go at China Unicom. If you buy a Sim card on these little shop you don't have 3G. You need to register with your passport at China Unicom.
Kremata said:
No need to pay 12 months in advance. But you need to go at China Unicom. If you buy a Sim card on these little shop you don't have 3G. You need to register with your passport at China Unicom.
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Ok that's great, so stay away from the small shops and goto a proper China Unicom store and remember to take my passport :good:
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Ok that's great, so stay away from the small shops and goto a proper China Unicom store and remember to take my passport :good:
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Actually the Sim cards from the little shops are not bad, but you will have to go to Unicom anyway to activate the 3G so it's better to go right away, sometimes they have specials.
N7105
What about N7105 which suppose to be a 4G LTE phone? Can N7105 get 3G or 4G data in China? Seems China Mobile Hong Kong has 4G LTE. Does China Mobile or other cell phone company in mainland China have 4G LTE?
Hello all, I just bought a Defy mb525 green lens off amazon. I'm in the United States and my sim card is from T-mobile. The phone is from south american (not sure which country)
With the stock rom everything worked fine.. but after i installed cm10 all i got was emergency calls only. I tried all the T-mobil basebands.. as well as every other baseband.. not once did i ever get a signal of any kind.. at one point my phone detected at&t but still had no signal..
I then tried cm7 but had the same result..
I then tried stock cee just to settle on something that works but got rid of blur.. but still had no signal..
If you live in the United States and are on t-mobile wat baseband do you use? Could the issue be with different hardware due to the phone being made for south America? (although with the stock rom i have a great signal) Any comments or suggestions would be much appreciated..
Thanks in advance,
Eman
Baseband troubles with Defy MB525 - partial solution - and questions
Eman Leerton said:
Hello all, I just bought a Defy mb525 green lens off amazon. I'm in the United States and my sim card is from T-mobile. The phone is from south american (not sure which country)
With the stock rom everything worked fine.. but after i installed cm10 all i got was emergency calls only. I tried all the T-mobil basebands.. as well as every other baseband.. not once did i ever get a signal of any kind.. at one point my phone detected at&t but still had no signal..
I then tried cm7 but had the same result..
I then tried stock cee just to settle on something that works but got rid of blur.. but still had no signal..
If you live in the United States and are on t-mobile wat baseband do you use? Could the issue be with different hardware due to the phone being made for south America? (although with the stock rom i have a great signal) Any comments or suggestions would be much appreciated..
Thanks in advance,
Eman
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I have a similar issue with a Defy MB525 that I bought as a refurb from Amazon just a couple of weeks ago.
When I received it, it seemed to be set up with Spanish as it's primary language...
Anyhow I reflashed it with a motorola sbf file that allegedly was for Tmobile USA and had Android 2.2.
Then I rooted it and loaded up CyangenMod 7.2...
I have a SIM from Lycamobile USA, which rides on the Tmobile network.
Before fiddling with the various baseband selections available via CM7.2 I could not make any calls
Phone info, baseband version:EPU93_U_00.59.01
Partial solution.
Tried all of the TMobile/USA baseband settings - no joy.
In desparation tried some of the SouthAmerican settings and the Asian settings...
The best of the lot seems to be Asia/China/ME722 1.10 850/1900/2100
Which works okay and gets an "all bars" signal for me - for Voice and Edge data.
I suspect this setting works because T-Mobile operates Voice and Edge on 1900Mhz in my area.
Also, in some areas, I get "emergency call only", which is probably on the 850 band that belongs to AT&T.
Problem
I don't get any 3G service. That's probably because, as I understand it, 3G for t-mobile is using 1700/2100 (up/down or vice-versa)
and my radio isn't set up to use the 1700 Mhz band.
Question
Can I fix this with a reflash of firmware - to exploit "quad" band operation 850/1700/1900/2100? Which are all in use by Tmobile and/or AT&T in the USA, according to various Wikipedia articles.
If so, which firmware should I load?
If not, is this a hardware limitation of the Defy MB525? Some builds/versions? Or all versions/builds?
bob.teatow said:
I have a similar issue with a Defy MB525 that I bought as a refurb from Amazon just a couple of weeks ago.
When I received it, it seemed to be set up with Spanish as it's primary language...
Anyhow I reflashed it with a motorola sbf file that allegedly was for Tmobile USA and had Android 2.2.
Then I rooted it and loaded up CyangenMod 7.2...
I have a SIM from Lycamobile USA, which rides on the Tmobile network.
Before fiddling with the various baseband selections available via CM7.2 I could not make any calls
Phone info, baseband version:EPU93_U_00.59.01
Partial solution.
Tried all of the TMobile/USA baseband settings - no joy.
In desparation tried some of the SouthAmerican settings and the Asian settings...
The best of the lot seems to be Asia/China/ME722 1.10 850/1900/2100
Which works okay and gets an "all bars" signal for me - for Voice and Edge data.
I suspect this setting works because T-Mobile operates Voice and Edge on 1900Mhz in my area.
Also, in some areas, I get "emergency call only", which is probably on the 850 band that belongs to AT&T.
Problem
I don't get any 3G service. That's probably because, as I understand it, 3G for t-mobile is using 1700/2100 (up/down or vice-versa)
and my radio isn't set up to use the 1700 Mhz band.
Question
Can I fix this with a reflash of firmware - to exploit "quad" band operation 850/1700/1900/2100? Which are all in use by Tmobile and/or AT&T in the USA, according to various Wikipedia articles.
If so, which firmware should I load?
If not, is this a hardware limitation of the Defy MB525? Some builds/versions? Or all versions/builds?
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I use the Colombian frequencies, better battery life than Chinese. But yeah, occasionally on some stock builds I wouldn't get any signal. If you're in South America, try using the Retail ROM for Latin America. More specifically "JORLA_U3_3.4.2_108-2_R02_SIGNED_USAJORDMR1B25RETLALA01F.0R_JORLAFRORETLALA_P008_A005_M001_HWp3_WIG147146_Service1FF", which is the one I'm on now.
And no, in most countries you won't get 3g, since this is a hardware issue. I get 3G in Ecuador, but that is only because Movistar here uses 850mhz band for UMTS. Another option would be to sell your Defy and find a Argentina Personal Defy which uses 800/1900, or buy a European Defy that uses 900/2100, since I think in almost every South American country there is at least one carrier that uses those frequencies.
But T-Mobile's defy in South America, as far as I know, will only get you 3G in Ecuador.
EDIT: Misunderstood the post, wasn't paying attention , but my point is still valid. It's a hardware issue.
Update - MB525 Tmobile Melrose MA seeing HSPA
Antiga Prime said:
I use the Colombian frequencies, better battery life than Chinese. But yeah, occasionally on some stock builds I wouldn't get any signal. If you're in South America, try using the Retail ROM for Latin America. More specifically "JORLA_U3_3.4.2_108-2_R02_SIGNED_USAJORDMR1B25RETLALA01F.0R_JORLAFRORETLALA_P008_A005_M001_HWp3_WIG147146_Service1FF", which is the one I'm on now.
And no, in most countries you won't get 3g, since this is a hardware issue. I get 3G in Ecuador, but that is only because Movistar here uses 850mhz band for UMTS. Another option would be to sell your Defy and find a Argentina Personal Defy which uses 800/1900, or buy a European Defy that uses 900/2100, since I think in almost every South American country there is at least one carrier that uses those frequencies.
But T-Mobile's defy in South America, as far as I know, will only get you 3G in Ecuador.
EDIT: Misunderstood the post, wasn't paying attention , but my point is still valid. It's a hardware issue.
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I'm visiting Melrose MA today and I'm seeing an HSPA signal! Still with the "China" settings...
Speedtest.net says I got:
Code:
Date,ConnType,Lat,Lon,Download,Upload,Latency,ServerName,InternalIp,ExternalIp
"2013-06-21 15:32","Hspa","42.45245","-71.06685",1388,988,282,"Boston, MA","10.230.130.121","83.137.2.146"
"2013-06-20 07:49","Edge","41.33962","-73.37708",198,112,467,"Secaucus, NJ","10.230.142.199","83.137.2.147"
While the "Network Signal Info" app says I'm HSPA at 14.4 Mbps, I guess that's a max.
Soo... this is good, but I'm still curious -- how can I determine which band(s) the radio is operating on?
According to Wikipedia, T-mobile runs HSPA on the 1900Mhz band in some areas and 1700/2100 in others...
Since I set my radio to 850/1900/2100 - my first guess is I've wandered into a 1900/1900 HSPA zone...
My connection is to CID13693382 / LAC 36498 MCC-MNC 310-260 Is there a database where I can find out what frequencies are assigned to this cell tower for T-mobile? Lots of location/map services - but I didn't find any info about baseband allocations in this area...
Hmmm... Let's try switching the baseband to the T-mobile USA 6.x settings...
Same result as in CT, no service, no joy ;-(
Do the T-Mobile USA settings work for anyone watching this board?
Hello everyone
I have a question about lte band of Chinese version
On Huawei website, we can see that the mate 7 support FDD LTE band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20/28. Todays, we can find the Chinese version for sell "limited" to bands 1,3,7.
But what I don't understand if the Chinese version got all band if you use it in another country or does it need a firmware mod to activate the other bands?
I need band 3,7 and 20... Can I buy a Chinese one or not? (2gig/16 would be good)
Thanks
This has been answer in our Q&A thread. Please take a look at recent discussion on this topic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-7/general/wait-compatible-ascend-mate-7-buy-t2899404
Forum member from Switzerland has reported that the Chinese TL10 works flawlessly and we will hear more news from EU user next week.:fingers-crossed:
And we highly recommend 3 GB RAM, or the premium version. You will notice significant difference when opening multiple APPS.
We will post a root instruction for xda community early next week so that it will be a more fun machine to have.
getmobilephone said:
This has been answer in our Q&A thread. Please take a look at recent discussion on this topic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-7/general/wait-compatible-ascend-mate-7-buy-t2899404
Forum member from Switzerland has reported that the Chinese TL10 works flawlessly and we will hear more news from EU user next week.:fingers-crossed:
And we highly recommend 3 GB RAM, or the premium version. You will notice significant difference when opening multiple APPS.
We will post a root instruction for xda community early next week so that it will be a more fun machine to have.
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Thanks for the answer but I already read theses threads.
But I can't find on these that the Chinese version got all band, not just one or two
Thanks for the help
It may work...
n1ck0 said:
Hello everyone
I have a question about lte band of Chinese version
On Huawei website, we can see that the mate 7 support FDD LTE band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20/28. Todays, we can find the Chinese version for sell "limited" to bands 1,3,7.
But what I don't understand if the Chinese version got all band if you use it in another country or does it need a firmware mod to activate the other bands?
I need band 3,7 and 20... Can I buy a Chinese one or not? (2gig/16 would be good)
Thanks
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Hello!
I just came back from a trip to China. Bought my Mate 7 in Shanghai. Its the MT7-UL00 Version.
At the shop they told me it should work in Switzerland. They even installed the Play Store for me (good service).
At the Stop Over in Dubai I had no LTE. So I was a little worried. Now in Switzerland it looks like I have same LTE coverage like I had bevor with my LG G3.
Hope this helps you.
The Kitano
MT7-TL10 Chinese -> European
I just got af Gold Mate 7 (3 bg/32 rom) from China - MT7-TL10.
Its a Chinese version, with Chines text i a few palces (even i chosed Denmark for language) but its also without google or anything - and im living in Europe.
So my question is, how do I get the international version af the software on this phone so I can use it like a normal phone here in Europe?
I would be really thankfull for any help and guidance regarding this issue.
Thank you!
Yep i dreaming of my futur AM7 but for no problem at all like the guaranty, i prefer wait till the european version launch officially. i'm so disappointed the gold version will not sold in europe, oh well the grey/black model will be fine too ^^
the official launch in france will be soon around 12 of november.
tozneno said:
Yep i dreaming of my futur AM7 but for no problem at all like the guaranty, i prefer wait till the european version launch officially. i'm so disappointed the gold version will not sold in europe, oh well the grey/black model will be fine too ^^
the official launch in france will be soon around 12 of november.
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You can already buy at amazon.fr, can't you?
they've been selling it since last week. and they already discounted by 20euro in white version yesterday. (looks like it's back to normal price though)
You can buy it EUR 455.70 at amazon.fr now. price dropping so fast. nobody's buying it?
I bought mine on amazon.fr but I have not yet received
n1ck0 said:
Hello everyone
I have a question about lte band of Chinese version
On Huawei website, we can see that the mate 7 support FDD LTE band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20/28. Todays, we can find the Chinese version for sell "limited" to bands 1,3,7.
But what I don't understand if the Chinese version got all band if you use it in another country or does it need a firmware mod to activate the other bands?
I need band 3,7 and 20... Can I buy a Chinese one or not? (2gig/16 would be good)
Thanks
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I bought the Gold TL10 version from ebay and had the international rom flashed on it. Works fine although i only get 3g hspa with tmobile (which is still pretty fast).
I want to unlock the 4g lte though like the TL09 versions so i cud see how fast the cat6 realli is. Regardless though, this phone is pretty fast to even be in 3g mode.
Can you buy the 3gb ram version from amazon fr?
Also how does warranty work on amazon fr? I live in the uk.
Thanks
riz157 said:
Can you buy the 3gb ram version from amazon fr?
Also how does warranty work on amazon fr? I live in the uk.
Thanks
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It's amazon so warranty usually good if you buy from them. 3gb ram 2gb of ram wont matter much with the Chipset they are using. Feel confident that 2gb will be enough after all the video tests I have seen on YouTube. The 3gb is only the Chinese model which I would not purchase. Get the European model much safer bet.
ipmanwck said:
It's amazon so warranty usually good if you buy from them. 3gb ram 2gb of ram wont matter much with the Chipset they are using. Feel confident that 2gb will be enough after all the video tests I have seen on YouTube. The 3gb is only the Chinese model which I would not purchase. Get the European model much safer bet.
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Thanks will keep that in mind.
I had lg g3 which fustrated the hell out of him, even though it had 3gb ram the thing was awful.
AndroiderTL10 said:
I bought the Gold TL10 version from ebay and had the international rom flashed on it. Works fine although i only get 3g hspa with tmobile (which is still pretty fast).
Hey, I have my MT7 brought over from China. I am using it in the Czech Republic on Vodafone network. I can only get 2G connectivity. No 3G or LTE. in the Settings/Roaming Settings, it identifies my SIM card as "2G" only, and I cannot switch on 4G. I have a brand new nano SIM that should work with our local LTE.
My MT7 model MT7-CL00, build number MT7-CL00V100R001C92B120SP07
Any ideas?
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radecek1977 said:
AndroiderTL10 said:
I bought the Gold TL10 version from ebay and had the international rom flashed on it. Works fine although i only get 3g hspa with tmobile (which is still pretty fast).
Hey, I have my MT7 brought over from China. I am using it in the Czech Republic on Vodafone network. I can only get 2G connectivity. No 3G or LTE. in the Settings/Roaming Settings, it identifies my SIM card as "2G" only, and I cannot switch on 4G. I have a brand new nano SIM that should work with our local LTE.
My MT7 model MT7-CL00, build number MT7-CL00V100R001C92B120SP07
Any ideas?
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You should inquiry before purchasing. The CL00 version, aka China TeleCom version, only recognizes their specific SIM, otherwise, locked at GSM only. Choose a reputable seller in the future.
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radecek1977 said:
You should inquiry before purchasing. The CL00 version, aka China TeleCom version, only recognizes their specific SIM, otherwise, locked at GSM only. Choose a reputable seller in the future.
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Yeah I got this as a little gimmick to play with., but it certainly is a disappointment.
Do you think the CL00 version can be loaded with TL10 firmware? I can see CL00 and TL10 differ dramatically in the network and data connectivity support, and TL10 is what I need.
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radecek1977 said:
getmobilephone said:
Yeah I got this as a little gimmick to play with., but it certainly is a disappointment.
Do you think the CL00 version can be loaded with TL10 firmware? I can see CL00 and TL10 differ dramatically in the network and data connectivity support, and TL10 is what I need.
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No. There is no way to unlock the SIM and flashing TL10 ROM will not work either. In addition, CL00 uses an additional chip for CDMA2000, which consumes more batteries (only 2/3 of battery life vs. other versions, stated by HUAWEI's website). If you consider TL10, we have Gold color version in stock.
We cannot help you on this version any more.
Good luck!
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have smae issue indeed ... nothing works with me i don,t thin you can,t convert it