[Q] Treo Pro prefers cellular data over Wifi - Palm Treo Pro

Result is failure to connect on cellular data & charges on the goPhone prepaid.
Only workaround is to disable cellular radio every time I want to use Wifi.
How can it be configured to do the usual [obvious] data network preference of USB, then Wifi, then cellular?
Repro:
Turn on both cellular radio & Wifi, sync email via Windows Live, see failure to connect
Details:
Palm Treo Pro
Windows Mobile v6.1
AT&T goPhone SIM, voice & text only, no data
BTW, I liked your fast "similar threads" facility above. However, no answers there.

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data usage charges.

I use a cingular 8125 and tmobile- voice plan only no texting or web
I have wifi(internet connection) at home
once i am in a wifi, and browsing the web. do i get charged for data usage from my service provider(tmobile)?
or once im using windows messenger or third party messenger on a wifi connection do i get charged for text messages?
thanks
no a pda connected to wifi works just the same as a pc connected to wifi
it dont mean one pay for internet other then the internet one pay for of ones wifi
but sms use gsm unless one send them from a free sms website
thank you. so It wont charge for texting, or data usage once i am on a wifi network. the only reason i had this concern was my friend said ya man. and his dumb ass never used a pda. LOL
sms is a service which goes from 1 phone to another
if you normal sms from your phone it will charge you
the internet cant connect you to phones unless they are on the internet
so to sms over the internet one needs to connect to a service which let your sms out of the internet so to speak
wifi is for your pda 100% thing as it is for your pc
your phone operator will not even know you are online when you are connected to wifi
any pda with wifi can connect to the internet that way it dont even have
to be a phone
I found that even when I am connected to a WiFi connection, when I used either the browser or Windows Messaging, I got a data charge on my AT&T bill. In order to make absolutely sure that this does not happen again, I disable the cellular service under the Comm Manager when I want to use WiFi. I had thought that the WiFi would take precidence over the cellular service, but I could not find any way to configure this, so I just turn off the cellular service. It's a pain, but at least I don't get the data charges.
My advice is to alter the gprs ap name (ofnew.fr -> ofnew.ten.fr) so it can't use it.

Normal browsing. Is it normal it's dialing #777?

Hi, I got a Titan and when opening the IE, it establishes a connection through dialling #777.
The "data Connection" is activated at this point.
I do not want to use my phone as an external modem, just want to browse.
My carrier is bell canada/mobility and I know they got 2 plans: Data plans (and not sure but I think it's for phone as modem) and browsing plan at 7$ unlimited.
I managed to activate the unlimited browsing option but the #777 is dialling and therefore, it's in data plan mode.
So is there a way to browse without dialling #777?
Thank you
magickarle said:
Hi, I got a Titan and when opening the IE, it establishes a connection through dialling #777.
The "data Connection" is activated at this point.
I do not want to use my phone as an external modem, just want to browse.
My carrier is bell canada/mobility and I know they got 2 plans: Data plans (and not sure but I think it's for phone as modem) and browsing plan at 7$ unlimited.
I managed to activate the unlimited browsing option but the #777 is dialling and therefore, it's in data plan mode.
So is there a way to browse without dialling #777?
Thank you
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That's how the phone connects to the network, it's not using it as an external modem AFAIK. My phone does that also.

At home, GPRS vs. Wi-Fi

Everyone,
Apologies, and I know this is a stupid question, but when at home with my htc tound pro, with WiFi on, and connected, why do I need the phone on too for the WiFi to work,...?
Also, when both are on and working, which system is used, i.e., the SIM card connection or the WiFi connection,...?
WiFi I pay a flat monthly rate for unlimited data, with the SIM card I am on a fixed amount of data transfer per month,...
Thanks for listening,
ek
Well..
You may be using an application that is not Wifi aware. So, it demands a GPRS/EDGE/3G connection. So - in effect - it's not actually using the Wifi connection.
If you can use the application with Wifi on, and phone off - it's Wifi aware. (Meaning it can utilize Wifi).
If you can't use the application without the phone being on - it's not Wifi aware or has not been configured to use the Wifi.
What application are you having issues with?
thanks for getting back to me,... WM Professional 6.1 and the Internet Explorer program when going on to the web,... i'm just wondering which systems does the phone use when both are functioning,... am i using the gprs from my SIM card or am I using the wi-fi in my home,...? and why do i need the phone turned on to use the wi-fi in my home,...?
thanks again,...
ek
you can see if it's using gprs on the icon for signal str if it's showing animations
it's using gprs
otherwise it's using wifi
if you set
settings-connections-connection-advanced-select network to my homenetwork
it dont use gprs
did you set the gprs settings to your gsm provider?
i would prefer wifi over gprs/3g anyday unless if your home internet is extremely slow ( <300kbps). the battery life would be almost equal so why not a faster connection?
Rudegar said:
you can see if it's using gprs on the icon for signal str if it's showing animations
it's using gprs
otherwise it's using wifi
if you set
settings-connections-connection-advanced-select network to my homenetwork
it dont use gprs
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I'd like to understand how WM decides which network to use when it has a choice e.g. HSDPA and WiFi. I've looked at the settings mentioned above and I currently have Internet using Contract Internet (HSDPA) and Work using WiFi as the WiFi networks I connect to are firewalled and privately addressed.
What settings should I have to ensure that when I have the choice of WiFi and HSDPA (at home) I use WiFi, and when out and about I use HSDPA?
Everytime an application wants to connect to the net:
- If wifi is connected and GSM isn't, it uses Wifi
- If wifi isn't connected, it tries connecting to GSM and will use that.
- If both are connected - we don't really know what happens.
When you're at home, check that GSM is not connected (no little E, G, 3G or H on the signal bar icon, disconnect it if connected), turn on wifi, wait until the arrows have stopped moving on the Wifi icons, and now you can launch the program that wants to connect to the net, and it will use wifi.
If at this point you get a popup about the phone connecting to GSM data again, then there's a connectivity problem on your Wifi and the device can't reach the net through it.
You might want to install Modaco Nodata, it allows you do disable automatic connection to GSM so that you can be sure it doesn't connect when you don't want it to.
mine never use gprs when it have wifi
I have a Touch HD and I can make things work fine by manually turning off the data connection then turning on WiFi in the comm manager when I'm at home or vice versa when I'm out and about.
I would have thought win mobile 6.1 would have been a mature enough OS to allow this to be configured automatically. This and Opera are my only outstanding issues with the HD.
Strange. I can easily shut my phone off, enable wifi & browse fine.

WM 6.1 modem connection (not GPRS) for 56K dial up internet connection-possible?

I have a windows mobile 6.1 smart phone (iPAQ 910c) that I would like to connect to the internet via a network modem Cellular Line (not Cellular Line-GPRS,3G) connection to my ISP's local 56k dial up numbers. (I don't want to pay $30 for a data plan for only occasional needs to browse when I am not near wi-fi, and I have 5 faves to use so calling the modem number costs me no air time.)
• I had no problem doing this on WM 5.0 with my iPAQ 6945 that I formerly owned.
• I can set up the same connection on my 910c, but I can not connect to my ISP. I get a general error message "cannot connect". I know the ISP number is working, because I have since connected with another 5.0 phone.
• I have tried the same connection on a few other WM 6.1 phones: the HTC Fuze and the Palm Treo. Same problem on both, so it seems a WM 6.1 issue.
I have spent several hours doing searches and reading blogs on this issue, and have found no help. Most related articles only speak of how to get a phone's GPRS connection to act as a modem for a laptop, which does not apply for my need.
I would be so thankful for any help or suggestions!
Do you have DUN installed? By default WM6 only uses "Internet Sharing", which works over a data plan. I never heard of what you did before, but if it worked in the past, it definitely used "Dial Up Networking" DUN.
You may want to install:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/sekalaiset/WM6_BT_DUN.cab
But's still not working for me...
I got this working on my Kaiser:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=473875&highlight=modem
You won't get 56K speeds though, you are limited to 9600 V.32 or V.34 modem speeds, unless the device you are calling is digital and can utilise ISDN standard V.110 in which case you can get 38400. Change the CSD line type and try....
Andy

Using my Phone as a (voice) Modem for itself

I have a verizon xv6900 (HTC vogue?) and I want to use my voice plan (*not* a data plan) to connect to the internet. There are free dial-up access numbers, and I don't care how slow it is. Is this possible?
I changed the #777 connection setting to a free dial-up account, and Verizon still charged me for "data access".
Thanks,
Bryan.

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