[Q] Multilanguage rom making and some starter questions. - Windows Mobile

I'm making a rom for my HTC Touch2/mega. My currently installed rom is stock rom. Which is comes with my phone and it has no official version of it here. It's in Turkish language and 6,5 but I want to make it 6.5.5 So I'm trying to use this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544445
(And I don't wan't to lose the original room. Without HardSPL Can't I backup it right?)
And my rom is customized for an operator. So I want to build it in Turkish language. I have the mui's but I'm not sure they will work on 6.5.5 and I wan't to make it multilanguge. Because as default it's asking to me which language I wan't to use. I wan't to add this option too.
But if I try to build a new rom based on my current rom the operator customizations is continues? Like I can't use hdspa/3g with another operator (phone keeps crashing).
And
216xx = HTC htc
217xx = COM1, continuing dev of 6.5.0.1 - 6.5.0.40
218xx = COM2, continuing dev of 6.5.0.50
219xx = MD, feature test branch, pretty much dead now. (unstable features are added here, this tree is based on COM1, so older base OS code, but the UI/UX code is newer)
22xxx = SEMC sony ericsson
*230xx = COM3, continuing development
*234xx = COM4, appears to be abandoned.
*235xx = COM5, more GUI changes here. New Outlook Interface.
*236xx = LG Electronics Branch
*24xxx = Possible HTC branch
*25xxx = SEMC - Sony Ericsson
*280xx, 282xx = WMD. This is a continuation of com3 from 23090. Most of the changes appear to be with IE
29xxx - Unknown
235xx has threaded email
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Is there something matter If I choose not the Htc one's like 29xxx?
And Since Microsoft close the my phone Is there any point of keeping it in rom?
And Can I add video calling feature to my Mega with that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425937&highlight=video
WinCENLS_WWE and what is exactly doing? Is that neccessary for me? WWE means World Wide Edition?
Thanks

No answers? Guys please, I'm waiting for your anwers to cook my rom.

You touched several different problems.
Unfortunately each 6.5.x build will demand reviewing of most of the mui files. I know by myself. I used to build PLK versions of Jackos' ROMs and he has 2 series of ROMs (with 6.5 and 6.5.3 builds).
So you have to choose a build basing on information about it's stability/reliability, not ability to work with Turkish .muis. Either way you will need to mod some of them.
Second problem is to dump an existing ROM which I honestly know nothing about. But if it's a stock ROM, you should be able to find it somewhere anyway. By the information that you have to choose a language at first startup I think that it was not an official Turkish ROM, but the base for the device was WWE (World Wide English) and then there was a mod added by sunnysoft (http://firma.sunnysoft.cz/htc/). That's the same way it is done with Rhodium. We have no official Polish ROM, but only a sunnysoft plugin that enables the language choosing after a HR.
You can find there the newest WWE ROM and the language localization pack that you need.
Sooo I think what you should look for is an official WWE ROM (the version number you should have in Start -> Settings -> System -> Device information -> Software information) and a Sunnysoft mod with a set of different language.
Another problem is that you want to be able to choose a language after a HR. I don't recommend this method because:
- the way it is done by Sunnysoft is that they add a cab file with necessary modifications to a rom and run it after a HR by means of a .lua file or config.txt. The cab file script first asks the user for the language and then installs another cab according to the choosen language.
That means the resource files (and any other that must be added to the ROM) are just injected into the system as files. They do not delete the original english files from the ROM, but just add their own. Besides many of the .mui files (at least the ones from Base_Lang_0xxx package) should be placed as modules not files because otherwise they compromise the memory management.
So what I learned is that you should make as much changes to the ROM via the kitchen and not by a .cab file.
Furthermore the cab file is not able to make all the system changes. I know because I used to produce special PLK .cab files for Polish users of Rhodium. Mainly because we do not have a good Polish ROM and the Sunnysoft version had many bugs.
And there are a lot more changes that it's better to do during cooking than on the "real ROM".
As for myphone of course you can throw it out. It's not necessary anymore.

When I copy changelanguage.exe from my device to computer I was saw Sunnysoft. So like you said there is no official rom in Turkish. And yes it really has so much bug/mistranslates.
Actually I don't want big changes in my rom. I just want update it to 6.5.x
And yes really thanks.
My rom is 1.30.xxx.x but There was several updates on HTC support page so I installed them. Maybe they are updated the version. Should I install them to rom when I building it? Or they will just gone when I install 6.5.x 29xxx
And It seems It will be really hard to translate it to Turkish. Could you teach me? Or maybe not. f it comes too hard to me Maybe we won't be able to 6.5.x Turkish language. Whatever. I wan't to update my phone to 6.5.x without change much.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578915
And there is an wwe edition it says but when i download it there is nothing called with wwe. so I download the sunnysofts version.

Well, I'm afraid you asking too advanced questions for me.
I never changed the build of the ROM. I only developed and adjusted language files to the ROM cooked by someone else (in my case Jackos and Seem_ZA).
That's why I know that even the .mui files are different among different builds.
The "Latest Official ROM" in the thread you provided is 1.28.401.4, and you write that your ROM is 1.30, so I guess you should take the one from Sunnysoft, dump it and then before you try to translate it, try to change the build. You will se if it is stable, if everything works, and then you will decide if you should include all the fixes HTC provided or not.
Remember - the 6.5.x builds are not "official" (except for some phones offered on Chinese market). Furthermore they are not made by HTC as well, so it's rather not likely that they have their fixes. On the other hand you should look into the fixes and try to judge by what they contain. I'm definitely not advanced ehough to help on it.
But I feel that for you the most important matter is read about cooking so that you know what to do and you know what you should change.
Dump the official ROM (from sunnysoft page) using any kitchen system, look into it, try to understand what parts it is made of. There are some tutorials floating over xda like "basics of ROM cooking" or "Kitchen and utensils for cooks" etc. Changing build is a bit complicated task. You will probably not cook a good&stable ROM without knowing the basics.
On the other hand perhaps you will find a good 6.5.x cooked ROM for Mega for which the chef published his kitchen. Then most of the hard work is done, because you don't need to mess up with build changing, testing performance, optimising XIP and many other tasks.
Then you can start thinking of changing the kitchen to compile a Turkish ROM.

Yes. I get it. So I'm starting build a new rom then if it's works good and stable I will try the translate it. And I will come to you for ask your help. And I know they are not official. If they were I don't even think about the upgrade it Thank you very much

If about language modification I can say that I'm quite "trained", but if about ROM cooking... I have very basic problems (look at my 2 questions on the top of Chef central). So I'm sure you need someone much more experienced to start your cooking adventure. Unfortunately WinMo is slowly dying, so almost nobody looks over here anymore...

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Newbs: cooked rom or cab install? And go back?

Hi all.
I've bought an herald (P4350 in Italy) for my wife. I've registered the product to htc club and i've installed windows mobile 6 in italian.
Now i've read some thread as:
Newbs guide to Herald modification *updated* 10/18/07: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327046
and:
All you need on your Wing: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326655
If i've understood well, the first option means overwrite the OS i've just installed with another one with (impressive) features (as touchflo, cube interface, kayser like apps) preinstalled.
The second means collect some apps and install it (maybe it's possible htc home, even touchflo but certainly not cube's interface).
Well, due to limitation of the second way (cube's interface for example), i'd like to try the modified rom (cooked?), but i've some questions:
1) First of all, is it true that i can have all the functionality of the "Touch-IT,WWE v1.1" or similar cooked rom only by flashing the rom or i can found ALL the functionality by installing some apps?
2a) If 1) is false where can i found ALL the apps for doing the same things as well as in a cooked rom?
2b) If 1) is true, can i flash with Touch-IT rom my italian device with italian WM6 installed?
2bI) If 2b) is true, after trying Touch-IT rom can i reinstall my WM6 italian rom by double-clicking on the file downloaded from htc club? If not is a way to rollback to the original rom?
2bII) If 2b) is false (but also if it's true because i prefer the OS in my language ), PLEASE Itje make a Touch-IT,IT where the second IT meas ITALY
1. While you can have the apps, touch-it is built on a newer, more streamlined version of windows mobile 6.
2a. see 2b
2b. You can flash the WWE. I believe there was some effort to get a native language port, ask itje about that.
2bI. Yes. I believe the HTC club one is an RUU, a "Rom Update Utility". If you mess up in the flashing, you can use it restore from bootloader also
2bII. Again, ask itje.
wow that was confusing. Outlines are like hell on a apple.
fzzyrn thanks a lot for answers.
1. So u think that i can have also cube interface by installing an apps? Wich one?
2b. how can i contact itje for a native language port?
Again, thanks a lot for helping me.
i believe there are like flash-based emulations of the cube. Look in the main software development forum.
To contact Itje, private message him. Click on his name and then it should be obvious to extent

[ROM] [HP iPAQ 600c] [WWE] WM6.1 ROMs from Yevg001 and PDAclan.com

UPDATE
The newest 610-series Windows Mobile 6.1 ROMs may be found HERE. Many thanks to jpmatrix972 for collecting these ROMs and hosting them for the community.
If you've never installed a new ROM before, I'd recommend first downloading and installing the new 0.89 radio, in order to improve signal acquisition and overall radio performance. Backup ALL your data on the device before you run this! If you have any problems with this process, read more about radio problems and installation in this thread. (A big thank-you to hipppo for posting these files!)
Afterwards, go here, and download the flash.dio file (which is the ROM itself). For information on how to install the ROM, please read my second post, below.
Once you're finished installing the new ROM, you should install this file in order to fix a bug with call waiting. After that, you're all done! Enjoy WM 6.1.
(If you miss having a proper D-pad on your iPAQ, there is a work-around program here. And if you need to get your hardware keyboard working with Opera Mobile 9.5, look here.)
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Everything below is older material that I don't personally recommend.
OLDER POSTS:
Hi guys! I got a request to upload the 600-series ROMs from PDAclan.com, which is a great site but it's all in Chinese. I'll be posting the ROMs here with their descriptions. Check back often, I'll be adding more as I finish their translations. The descriptions below aren't my words, but those of the ROM creators. I'll put any notes [like this]; anything written in English goes in quotes "like this".
To see the original posts, head over here.
Please read post #2 for flashing instructions and a disclaimer.
If there's no link yet, just be patient and I'll post it shortly.
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September 4th
HP612_WM6.1_OS 5.2.20737 ROM: Simplified Chinese - Elegant Black - Clean: by NGSEE
Recently, the base ROM has been updated very often, many thanks to acwan for providing the transplanted base.
Here's acwan's explanation of the new base:
Supposedly the previous 20721 release, with the new AKU 1.4 base, was a "beta" version. This one is AKU 1.4 "basic". In terms of speed it feels about the same as 20721. Its software compatibility is pretty good, under this base you should be able to run software that is usually restricted to specific devices. The bundled software is about the same as the previous Clean 20721 Simplified Chinese release.
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August 29th
HP612_WM6.1_OS 5.2.20721 ROM: Simplified Chinese - Elegant Black - Clean: by NGSEE
Here's the Simplified Chinese version! This is from the AKU 1.4 base ROM, to which I've added "touch" capability, which is also called screen swipe capability. It means that where you previously used the stylus to tap up or down, left or right, now you can instead use your fingers to swipe the screen - you'll see what I mean when you try it yourself. [I think he means he's included the HTC TouchFlo scrolling.] Let's see (it's been a while since I updated)... comparing this release to the previous one (20273), where I updated to the official 1.01.04 OEM, and updated the XIP & "boot", but the software was the same as before. In contrast, this time I didn't really feel like including the official "Streaming Player" or the dialer "Band Switch," friends that need them can go download the first three attachments in dxvolution's thread and install them themselves. (http://www.pdaclan.com/thread-17615-1-1.html). [I've downloaded these three files and attached them below.] There's basically no problems with using this ROM. Much like the English version released yesterday, if you don't have any recently used programs in the Start Menu, the cursor will turn white when you move it to that space. I don't know if this is a bug or a new feature of AKU 1.4.
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August 28th
HP612_WM6.1_OS 5.2.20721 ROM: English - Elegant Black - Clean: by NGSEE
This one is using the newest 20721 base (AKU 1.4), the XIP and SYS were all transplanted from the Samsung I-908 Hong Kong edition English ROM, served up hot and fresh. As for software, there isn't any difference from the past clean releases, I've kept using the newest official HP 1.01.04 OEM. This time I've even updated the "boot", I can't feel any difference, friends that want to try something new can give it a shot.
PS: There's a small bug, if the list of recently opened programs is empty there will be a white bar, expect a fix. Eh, I figure there aren't that many people who have that space empty anyway.
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August 27th
HP612_WM6.1_OS 5.2.20296+20275 ROM: English - Elegant Black - Clean: by kkwy
The XIP has been transplanted from the Ri Da [don't know if this is a name or a brand] 20296 base, the OEM part has been updated to the newest official HP English ROM 1.01.04, and the SYS has been transferred from the "Diamond" 20275 and NGSEE's 20273 English - Elegant Black - Improved ROM. As for the software, it's about the same as the last release, MMS should be fixed now.
Standard page pool is 12 MB.
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August 24th
HP612_WM6.1_OS 5.2.20273 ROM: English - Elegant Black - Improved: by NGSEE
Just like the 20273 in Simplified Chinese, the XIP is ported from Xiao Qiao's 20273 base, while the OEM has been updated to HP's new official ROM 1.01.04. After flashing the OS version will appear as 1.01.04. The SYS was ported by someone on xda-devs (I've forgotten their ID, oops...)
ROM Specs:
1. OEM is the newest official one; in addition, the streaming player, battery manager, and HP Shortcut have all been upgraded.
2. Battery level is displayed as a percentage.
3. Used a Diamond skin for WMP.
4. The ROM has been made as clean as possible; software includes the official standard dialer, standard English keyboard as well as Samsung fullscreen handwriting 2.0 [for Chinese input], Office applications and Live Messenger, a small reset tool, a Chinese dialer [?], and a new version of USBtoPC.
5. Improved appearance of the system icons, which were taken from xda-devs
6. Standard page pool is set at 16 mb.
Many thanks to PDAclan's niezher for testing this ROM!
Not much else to say
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August 18th
HP612C_WM6.1_OS 5.2.20275 + 20273 ROM: Simplified Chinese - Elegant Black - Clean: by kkwy
These past few days I've been researching the HP 612c's XIP and OS's "DIY" [Do-it-yourself?]
I've grabbed the newest IPAQ 1.01.04 ROM, and upgraded its XIP to version 20275
Then I grabbed NGSEE's HP612_WM6.1_OS 5.2.20273 Simplified Chinese - Elegant Black - Clean ROM and took out the OS part, the OS's OEM section I used is the updated IPAQ 1.01.04 one.
After I finished it, I've used it until now without problems.
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August 17th
HP612_WM6.1_OS 5.2.20273 ROM: Simplified Chinese - Elegant Black - Clean: by NGSEE
Recently I haven't had anything fun to do, I was itching to make a 20273 ROM. I've been using it and I figure it's pretty good, friends who want to try something new can give it a go.
It's a pretty clean ROM, I've minimized the cooked-in programs. Software included is pretty much the same as the 20273 English version. [See above.] I've removed the HP theme, now the standard theme is WM6.1 green, standard page pool is 16 MB, Simplified Chinese MMS 4.2.8.10, and that's about all there is to it.
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The attached files are for the August 29 release.
To flash these ROMs:
0) Backup your data! This will erase ALL files you have stored on the device.
1) If the ROM is compressed, extract the file flash.dio from the archive (e.g., zip or rar file) using the password "israpda.com" for the newer ROMs, or "PDAclan.com" for the older ones (note that the "PDA" part is capitalized).
2) Copy the file flash.dio to an micro sd card formatted to FAT 16. Do NOT use an SDHC card, the bootloader can't read it!
3) Insert the card into your 610/612/614. While it's still off, hold down the voice record (left side) and mute (top) buttons.
4) Still holding the buttons, hit the power button. Hold them until you see the bootloader start up.
5) Sit back and relax! I'd recommend that you don't touch anything until it's totally finished and the screen comes up telling you to calibrate the touchscreen. Enjoy your new ROM!
In the unlikely event that something goes wrong and your device is stuck on the blue HP startup screen, see here for a fix.
As usual, you use this at your own risk. Let me say that again: ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS TO YOUR DEVICE AFTER FLASHING THESE ROMS IS YOUR OWN RESPONSIBILITY. I haven't tried all of these so I can't comment on how they're working, but the Chinese guys think they're the bee's knees. (That is, they're really good.)
*reserved*
Hi
Can I use this ROM HP612_WM6.1_OS 5.2.20721 ROM: English - Elegant Black - Clean: by NGSEE on my HP Ipaq 614c ?
And what does it mean "Clean" ? What exactly was deleted from original ROM?
Thanks.
PS Now have ROM WM 6.1 for HP IPAQ 614c CE English OS 5.2.19965 (Build 19965.1.2.3) Ver 1.3 (yevg001)
I wasn't sure, but somebody over at PDAclan asked the same question. Anyway, yeah, these ROMs will work on any of the 600s (610c, 614c, etc.)
I think these are "clean" in that there's nothing added to them, the only programs are those that come from the stock HP ROM.
Oh year, I flashed it. =))
So, what can i say, it is very fast!! Extremely fast!
But some chinese words still are
Also found some new programmes
PocketCalc in chinese and with 14 day trial =)))))
WM6.1Storage, RESET and another chinese programm (something for working with SIM Card)
Some more pictures
Find bug
There is a programm WM6.1Storage with an error )))
Any suggestions?
THANKS !!!
FOR YOU EFFORTS
i think the hp 614 is an excelent machine one thing missing support
Support from hp
support from some guys with great knowledege
Today i tested the abillities of the hp 614 it fell from my vstrom 650 suzuki 60kmh with the big battery on
i was lucky no car hit the phone
excellent build quallity
Now so far i havent tried any modifications on the phone
sergiorus reports a very fast wm61 version
due to my previous experience from the highly overestimated (bull**** to me tytnii) no wm61 was faster than wm6
sergiorus can please confirm on that or run some benchmarks?
also the is some chinese leftovers in the rom ?
are they everywhere or just in the calculator?
thanks again hope we have a better camera ( the one in the phone sucks)
IF ONLY WE HAD A CHEFF WOULD BE GREAT
HOPE WE SEE LATER AN AMDROID VER 2
THANKS ONCE MORE GUYS
GEORGE
GREECE
satiros
yes, this ROM has chinese leftovers and not only in calculator. I found them also in voicecommander (when starting voice something say in chinese ), in WM6.1Storage, Sim Manager, ClearType
Voicecommander totally unusable, all in hieroglyphs
Also when opening textfile
And when device was just flashed date was in chinese also.
To sum up, i can say that it is fast ROM, faster than WM6.1 HP IPAQ 614c CE English OS 5.2.19965 (Build 19965.1.2.3) Ver 1.3 (yevg001), but it needs some fixes, improvements for english users. Flash it only for tests.
NOT RECOMMENDED
PS Which benchmarks you want i test?
hi
im dounlouding this one (HP612_WM6.1_OS 5.2.20273 ROM: English - Elegant Black - Improved: by NGSEE) ist full english or Chinese !!!!!!
Please Ipaq 614 French Rom !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
please, don't drop your question everywhere. You have opened a post with this question alreasy.
Furthermore:
1. If you want a french Rom buy a 614c with a french rom
2. This kind of questions is the reason of my low postingrate.
sayyas said:
hi
im dounlouding this one (HP612_WM6.1_OS 5.2.20273 ROM: English - Elegant Black - Improved: by NGSEE) ist full english or Chinese !!!!!!
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Um, that was a question, right? There seems to be a couple of programs in Chinese for all of these, but if it says "English," the OS and all major programs will be in English.
aevries said:
If you want a french Rom buy a 614c with a french rom
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Even better: if you want a French ROM, then become a ROM chef! We could sure use one for the iPAQ 600s.
Hi all,
I've flashed my 612 with "HP612_WM6.1_OS 5.2.20721 ROM: English - Elegant Black - Clean: by NGSEE" yesterday.
1st impression: applications definitely load faster! Battery-life have to wait and see.
However, there were a few things I need to change:
1. Date was in Chinese. Need to change to English.
2. The only text input options are the default English keyboard and a Chinese one. I had to manually enter the registry entries to enable back the Letter Recognizer, Block Recognizer and the Transcriber. I managed to change the text label of the Keyboard to English as well.
3. The default calculator has an expiry date. I had to download a 3rd party calculator and set it as the default one in the registry.
4. The left softkey on the today screen is set to Call History. Have to change to my favorite Messages through the registry.
One main grouse I have is that I can no longer enter SMS by using the hardware keypad anymore! When I press the keys, only numbers will appear. Anyone has any idea how to get back that function?? I'm used to enter text through the keypad.... Please help!!
after reading though the internet, I realized that XT9 has been disabled....anyone knows how to enable back?
To enable/disable XT9, edit the following registry keys:
Under: HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409\
Edit "Ime File" = "\\windows\\eT9.dll" and "Layout Text" = "eT9 IME" to enable XT9.
Edit "Ime File" = "\\windows\\compime.dll" and "Layout Text"="COMP IME" to disable XT9.
I'm including the .REG files below.
clariwee said:
2. The only text input options are the default English keyboard and a Chinese one. I had to manually enter the registry entries to enable back the Letter Recognizer, Block Recognizer and the Transcriber. I managed to change the text label of the Keyboard to English as well.
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Would you maybe be willing to post these reg entries so others can enable them as well? Thanks
Zoltair Wright said:
To enable/disable XT9, edit the following registry keys:
Under: HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409\
Edit "Ime File" = "\\windows\\eT9.dll" and "Layout Text" = "eT9 IME" to enable XT9.
Edit "Ime File" = "\\windows\\compime.dll" and "Layout Text"="COMP IME" to disable XT9.
I'm including the .REG files below.
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Thanks for replying.
I've read that in other forums as well. The problem is that the file \windows\eT9.dll doesn't even exist. I checked the spb backup image I created before the upgrade and it's not there as well. Therefore I believe there should be another dll file it should be pointing to.
My guess is one of the dll files in \windows\programs\tegic\et9. Btw, this ROM doesn't have anything in the \windows\programs\tegic\et9 folder. So I restored those files from the previous image.
Can anyone one who is still on the original ROM please advise what is your registry entry for HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409\?
Zoltair Wright said:
Would you maybe be willing to post these reg entries so others can enable them as well? Thanks
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There it is. Just remove the .txt extension.

Cooking a new ROM but need to change to WWE...

Hi, my friends at modaco are busy trying to get the Samsung i900 bluetooth routing working properly by taking bits out of the new i908 ROM and cooking a new i900 ROM.
I am looking at trying this from another angle in that I wish to patch the i908 ROM from chinese to english but would like to know what files I need to replace and where is the setting that determines the system language.
I see there are 0404 language files, I have corresponding 0409 language files from the latest WWE ROM but I'm assuming there must be some registry setting or something that I will need to hack to tell the system to refer to which code?
I am still a newbie but have cooked several custom ROMs and made hacks etc, I have some experience with firmware writing as well...
Thanks
Steven
These threads here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311078 and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449263 should help you immensely. Or you can upload the parts your working on from both ROMs and I can look into it

[Q] Flashing ROM on Acer neotouch S200

Hello, I bought on the german e-bay a mobile device called Acer neotouch s200, which is in german language without other languages like english, etc... I have read that if I want to get english language, I need to (re)flash it. Currently, the device has S200_3.003c.00_DE ROM. I do not know exactly if it is better to get the default ROM or the newest. To flash it, I downloaded Acer S200 beta 3 flashing tool, ran Acer_EUU.exe, but it stopped before updating the device (this was made on my desktop computer with Windows XP). I also tried it on my laptop with Windows 7, but the Acer_EUU.exe "stopped working". Can you please give me any advice how to solve my problem? I read it is better to get the default ROM, because it reduce the battery status, but it has got bugs.
Thank you
heeelp please
bry4nnn said:
heeelp please
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heeelp please
Please do some search on this forum. This is one of the thread I found.
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benjaminchan
10th April 2010, 06:47 AM
Dear Stress Analyst,
Thanks for your helpful advice. The problem has been solved. For the benefit of those who run into the same problem, here is what I did (I am summarizing this from memory, so I may miss a few things):
- I downloaded a file called "Arto's Sense rom 2.1 (3.003c, 23554, 2012).rar". The size is 162,841,490 bytes.
- I unzipped the contents of the .rar file into a folder.
- I put the S200 in bootloader mode by pressing and holding the camera and power buttons, while pressing the reset button with the stylus. The LED started flashing red. I connected the S200 to my Windows XP SP3 desktop, and it caused the Acer HS-USB driver to be installed.
- In the aforementioned folder, I ran “Acer_Euu.exe”, and was led through a series of windows. Just click, click, click ...
- When flashed, the Arto ROM was nice and interesting on my pda, but a bit too funky for a middle-age man like me. So I decided to install the Acer update instead.
- I unzipped file “OS_Acer_3.003c.01.EN.02_WM65_A.zip” and ran file EUU_Acer_S200_3.003c.01_EN_02_03.03.08_3.003c.00_2 0100202.exe
- After flashing the updated Acer ROM, I checked the version number, which was CE OS 5.2.21883 (Build 21883.5.0.783). The earlier version was Build 21857.5.0.66. The new version seems to run faster than the old version. Here is what I think were the problems with the older version 21857.5.0.66:
- The old firmware does not do a Clean Boot very well.
- The old firmwave has problems connecting to the Acer update.
Arto's ROM overcame these two problems, which meant that I can use it as a temporary bridge to the updated Acer ROM.
Unquote..
You can try the newest Arto's rom on the 2nd thread below yours.
Unhappy
How can I change ROM Acer neoTouch S200
I have OS_ACER_3.003b.00.EN_WM65_S200
I want to change to
EUU_Acer_S200_3.003c.00_EN_01_03.03.08_3.003c.00_2 0100203
problem
Code
ERROR CODE = SKU_incompatible
Search.... All answers in this forum............
.....Tried to update from 3.003b to EUU_Acer_S200_3.003c.00_EN_01_03.03.08_3.003c.00_20100203
and the utility tells me SKU_incompatible .
I have in registry EN language by default.
Does anyone knows what is wrong with it?
Yes, for this "3.003c.00_EN_01" rom you should have language set ton EN_01 in your registry. ;-]
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Just use your favorite registry editor and go to HKLM\ControlPanel\ACER\SystemInfo\Software
You'll find two keys: ExtROMVer and Language
For each key, Change your language occurence to "EN_01".
guys, do you really think that I am an idiot? I know all these steps, but I CANNOT connect the device to my laptops & PC
btw, can u copy here a DL link for "Arto's Sense rom 2.1 (3.003c, 23554, 2012).rar" ? Cannot find it
cmooon fellaz
Can you get into bootloader mode?
Version 2.1 is just the latest version during the creation of the thread. You can download other versions here.
http://www.almostunreal.org/arto/
Try follow up on this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642654&page=258
Get machine into bootloader mode, Red led flashing. Key sequence:
Camera + Volume down + Reset
Previous key sequence won't work for me. (Camera+Power+Reset)
Finally I flashed my device using the Arto's Sense rom, but now the device is really slow and some options are restricted. I also cannot change the display settings, so it is sometimes bright and sometimes dark. G-Sensor does not work, phone lags a lil bit. Is there any way how to get the DEFAULT stock firmware (with english language of course)? I copied the downloaded firmware from ftp: ftp.acer-euro (the oldest) to directory called Acer beta flashing tool where is also included Acer_EUU.exe and other stuff for flashing... and flashed it. After flash the welcome screen says I have the old firmware, but there is the same theme like before and the OS version did not change. I thought the newest, cooked firmware is very good & fast and works without any problems but this really sux. imho the default will be definitely the best :>
Thanks for any advice
Download this official rom here.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/6t1kpo
Check the Arto rom version and change your register to EN_02 before flashing the new rom.
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Just use your favorite registry editor and go to HKLM\ControlPanel\ACER\SystemInfo\Software
You'll find two keys: ExtROMVer and Language
For each key, Change your language occurence to "EN_02".
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Actually I have tested every step without problem. Flash to Arto's rom and flashing back to official rom.
bry4nnn said:
Finally I flashed my device using the Arto's Sense rom, but now the device is really slow and some options are restricted. I also cannot change the display settings, so it is sometimes bright and sometimes dark. G-Sensor does not work, phone lags a lil bit. Is there any way how to get the DEFAULT stock firmware (with english language of course)? I copied the downloaded firmware from ftp: ftp.acer-euro (the oldest) to directory called Acer beta flashing tool where is also included Acer_EUU.exe and other stuff for flashing... and flashed it. After flash the welcome screen says I have the old firmware, but there is the same theme like before and the OS version did not change. I thought the newest, cooked firmware is very good & fast and works without any problems but this really sux. imho the default will be definitely the best :>
bry4nnn,
First of all, you have followed bad/wrong advice from an idiot who quoted an old post about arto's sense "2.1" when in reality, sense roms and s200 rom developement in general has far surpassed 2.1 and acer stock firmware!!!!
according to your first post you already had the latest "stock" firmware w/3.003c drivers so all you needed to do was flash one of the many "clean roms" labled "WWE".
Second, the S200 will always have bugs because of WM6.5 that's why cooked roms are made to overcome most of the limitations of our device!! Inchu though
wrong about almost everything was right about one thing,"READ BEFORE YOU START A NEW THREAD" because right beneath your post is an entire universe of
info,roms,flashing info and all things s200!!! including one labled "Arto's sense 4.0" if you bothered to look you would find a change log with a chronological listing of Arto's sense from 1.0,1.1,etc...
My advice for you would be to delete all of your downloaded EUU's and beta tools and start over by simply downloading one of brainmaster's roms either
"WWE Clean" or "WWE Manila Clean 1.1" or any of the many he has cooked
for our device.
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lnchu said:
Download this official rom here.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/6t1kpo
Check the Arto rom version and change your register to EN_02 before flashing the new rom.
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Just use your favorite registry editor and go to HKLM\ControlPanel\ACER\SystemInfo\Software
You'll find two keys: ExtROMVer and Language
For each key, Change your language occurence to "EN_02".
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Actually I have tested every step without problem. Flash to Arto's rom and flashing back to official rom.
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ehm, your file is called "Name: OS_Acer_3.003c.01.EN.02_WM65_A.zip " which refers to a newer firmware, right? Anyway, i have to repeat myself: "I need default stock firmware, the oldest with EN" (and in my opinion it is probably called 2.003, yy?)
acer900 said:
bry4nnn said:
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bry4nnn,
First of all, you have followed bad/wrong advice from an idiot who quoted an old post about arto's sense "2.1" when in reality, sense roms and s200 rom developement in general has far surpassed 2.1 and acer stock firmware!!!!
according to your first post you already had the latest "stock" firmware w/3.003c drivers so all you needed to do was flash one of the many "clean roms" labled "WWE".
Second, the S200 will always have bugs because of WM6.5 that's why cooked roms are made to overcome most of the limitations of our device!! Inchu though
wrong about almost everything was right about one thing,"READ BEFORE YOU START A NEW THREAD" because right beneath your post is an entire universe of
info,roms,flashing info and all things s200!!! including one labled "Arto's sense 4.0" if you bothered to look you would find a change log with a chronological listing of Arto's sense from 1.0,1.1,etc...
My advice for you would be to delete all of your downloaded EUU's and beta tools and start over by simply downloading one of brainmaster's roms either
"WWE Clean" or "WWE Manila Clean 1.1" or any of the many he has cooked
for our device.
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For what exactly do I need this: WWE Clean and WWE MC 1.1 ? How I said, I rly do not need any CUSTOM firmware. just want to get the default firmware, not these bugged versions.
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Then you are clearly in the wrong place because this is the "Neotouch S200 Rom Development" section not Acer.com (http://www.acer.com/worldwide/support/download.htm which is where all things "official" or"stock" can be found!!!
And you are so wrong about the custom roms here they are light years ahead of the bug filled original acer rom!!!
But since you have only tried an older version custom rom still in development (as the change log indicates) and decided that all custom roms are buggy w/out having tried them then maybe you deserve the original acer firmware!
custom roms are made to correct problems in the stock firmware.
*** WILL THE MODERATOR PLEASE CLOSE THIS USELESS ERROR FILLED THREAD***
acer900 said:
Then you are clearly in the wrong place because this is the "Neotouch S200 Rom Development" section not Acer.com (http://www.acer.com/worldwide/support/download.htm which is where all things "official" or"stock" can be found!!!
And you are so wrong about the custom roms here they are light years ahead of the bug filled original acer rom!!!
But since you have only tried an older version custom rom still in development (as the change log indicates) and decided that all custom roms are buggy w/out having tried them then maybe you deserve the original acer firmware!
custom roms are made to correct problems in the stock firmware.
*** WILL THE MODERATOR PLEASE CLOSE THIS USELESS ERROR FILLED THREAD***
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u r so amusing, are not u? "custom roms are made to correct problems in the stock firmware" - yeah yeah and the bugs there are like side effects at painkillers, yeah?
And why the **** are u spamming here in this thread (now)? I wanted to get stock FW, not an advice about slow_buggy_custom_rom, cyao
I belong here, been here almost from the start of this forum and know a hell of a
lot more than you!!!! but dumb assholes like you who come to a windows mobile hacking forum to ask for advice about stock firmware don't!!
Not to mention, insulting the work of the very people you ask to help you're
sorry - wannabe - know-it-all ass will surely never get answers!!!!!
Any ideas how to get the default stock fw like it is here - http://tinyurl.com/5s5ocmh ?
I had it before with unsuitable languange (fw version was 3.003c). Now I want the same, just with english. If I use the fimwares from acer webpage then I have the same theme (& and the display is still dark, cannot change some options, etc..)
PROBLEM SOLVED
Arto made for me this stock firmware (3.003c.01.EN.02)
http://www.4shared.com/file/jJQSar1f/Stock_rom_english_S200.html
The home screen looks like this:
http://tinyurl.com/6fyfkhv
Thank you

[Q] ROM (builds and kitchen)

Hi all.
I'm creating a Windows Mobile Rom.
1)---I want to create a rom modifying my smartphone's rom and NOT creating a rom from a clean one (it will be almost impossibile).
2)---Which kitchen can i use?
3)---Where can I download the latest Windows Mobile 6.1 and 6.5 Builds? (Da-G's download don't work anymore on Mediafire)
Thanks
Try OS Builder as this is the most advanced and all in one solution. But be aware that if you start from an already cooked ROM you may face many kinds of problems because many cooks have applied methods to prevent dumping their ROMs.
Good luck!
tobbbie said:
Try OS Builder as this is the most advanced and all in one solution. But be aware that if you start from an already cooked ROM you may face many kinds of problems because many cooks have applied methods to prevent dumping their ROMs.
Good luck!
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Thanks for you reply!
But, to pass from Winmo 6.0 to Winmo 6.1 or 6.5, do I need 6.1 or 6.5 builds (xip,sys)?
Where can I download these build?
Mich-C said:
Thanks for you reply!
But, to pass from Winmo 6.0 to Winmo 6.1 or 6.5, do I need 6.1 or 6.5 builds (xip,sys)?
Where can I download these build?
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Oh well - you are much on your own with this old stuff now. Usually you cannot do much to the XIP (Kernel) parts as they are largely HW dependent. SYS is part of the ROM anyway and so part of regular cooking. Lookup the forums for your device and download what you can get. If it is an exotic device your chances are ~zero to get anything useful. If you have no experience in cooking it is a very long way to succeed (talking in weeks and months of learning!) - and there no others fighting the same problems any more. Look up the introduction link from my signature to get an idea of how things are connected.
What is your starting point (HW, ROM) and where do want to go?
TOBBIE, in practice I want to use Os Kitchen (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628948) because it's very simple to use.(I can alredy use it).
I downloaded but when I open it, I have the first screen (that showed in the thread). Is written: "....please, select an official rom update file..." It refers to an update Windows Mobile Build for cook the Rom.
So I searched Windows Mobile 6.1 and 6.5 Builds. I found 2 very good Builds from Da_G :
-6.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547314
-6.5 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544445
But ALL Links don't work and I ABSOLUTELY need this Build, without it, I can't cook...
Sorry, I have no experience with OS Kitchen. I have only used OS Builder finally and a very old device specific batch-kitchen before this.
Thanks, Can i give you "THANKS"?
But with wich build did you used to cook?
Mich-C said:
Thanks, Can i give you "THANKS"?
But with wich build did you used to cook?
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Well first you need to split smartphone (no touchscreen) from touchscreen devices.
I have cooked only for smartphone -> see my signature kitchen and stuff is all there.
Then find a stock ROM for the right type (smartphone or touchscreen) with largely similar properties (screen resolution, maybe also CPU/Chipset).
Can't you tell which device you want to cook for?
I want to cook for my Toshiba Portege G910 with WinMob 6 Professional.
It's touchscreen, it has Qwerty Keyboard, it has Wvga Resolution 800x480. There is not even a rom for this device.
But I want to cook in Italian language, (I'm italian )
This will be tough I guess. Mind that a new ROM will not change the kernel, so any of the new memory schemes introduced with W6.1 and WM6.5 will not apply even if you put a new OS on top of it. So basically you will not gain speed with a new ROM. Adding a language is a tricky thing but is possible, see my signature, even without cooking an all new ROM. So is there no Italian on the device at all?
Oh, I'm sad for this: no extra speed
When I bought, my phone had italian language.
The Toshiba Portege G900 is very very similar to my G910. Also the G900 has WinMob 6.0 Pro.
An Italian guy made a Winmo 6.1 rom for the G900 (in italian language), and now the G900 is very very fast. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4h23pR6JbI
I want to this with my G910, IT'S possible. Salvyc83 do this
(But now he can't help me)
Search for speed tweaks on WM6 if you are happy with the device otherwise. The effort to cook a well running 6.1 is enormous and it is not guaranteed if you get it faster on the UI then.
There are various registry settings to play with which can make the UI faster responding (cache for icons or fonts).
Good luck!
I need too to learn cooking roms. I will follow this thread.

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