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WM 6.5 for Universal?

Hello, I use the cool minhanhtran ROM, but though I would like to try the WM 6.5 too ... is that possible?

MikeZS said:
Hello, I use the cool minhanhtran ROM, but though I would like to try the WM 6.5 too ... is that possible?
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Welcome to the forum
Please READ and SEARCH before posting
Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=482006
And a quote from our dear chef regarding 6.5 for Uni:
"Look, WM6.5 is very early development stage specially for Uni. Also you must not forget that the OS has not been released yet. Besides, I can see you've just joined to the experimental dev phase and working on WM6.5 is not an ideal assignment in any case (for you).
Anyway, existing module relocation tool doesn't work well for WM6.5. You need to manually check if there is a conflict. It is also known that M$ has changed the slot's address for 6.5.
By the way, I've stopped working on WM6.5 due to it's instability and waiting for a "release" from the carrier."

[Coming Eventually?] WM6.5 21198 for iPAQ 910c/912c/914c

1. This is my first custom ROM ever.
2. Adapted for the 91x from same for 61x by keyx (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496283)
3. Major props to fellow Canadian keyx for major instruction and ongoing guidance. Indirect props to all his sources at pdaclan.com and xda-devs.
Done:
1. Dumped IMGFS from HP 910c Factory ROM update (using keyx kitchen).
2. Dumped XIP directly from device.
3. Ported keyx 21198 XIP to 91x using XIPKitchen (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443383)
4. Used OEM from 910c factory ROM (with Google Search, Google Maps and VoiceCommander removed)
5. Used SYS from keyx 21198 (except phone.dll and ril.dll from HP 910c factory and 61x-specific modules taken out)
6. Manual XIP ported by keyx
7. Functional ROM kitchen tools in place - tested by successfully building customized WM6.1 ROM
Current status:
- device makes it to OS boot screen (not the first "HP" boot screen but the next one), beeps once and just hangs... never goes any further
- WiFi and phone lights operational, suggesting successful XIP porting?
- can't isolate source problem between OEM, SYS or XIP
This will be based off of keyx's 03-27-09 beta 2.2 build. Once a reliable method is in place, we 910/912/914 owners should be able to benefit from his updates to the 610/612/614.
Please be patient; will post here as soon as its done.

I have cooked many rom the htx advantage ... but I could never switch from one machine to another ...
If you can be your tester!
THANKSSSSSS!!!!!!

This is a great news!! I've been waiting on a cust ROM for iPAQ91X : desperately waiting for this!!

Thanks very much!!!!! ))
I was waiting for this one since ages!
I'll be glad to be one of your testers if you need me to :-D
Gunsfan

sorry
Have been building and flashing many test ROMs for days now... none are making it past the first screen.
We may be better off porting from an entirely new source; I suspect whatever causes the 61x keyx first-boot problem (where users wait for second beep and then must reset frozen device) has just turned into a full-blown show stopper.

in the meanwhile may be you can port 6.1 21042 (if the original rom has a older verson) and may be fitting manila 2d in it.

keyx said:
in the meanwhile may be you can port 6.1 21042 (if the original rom has a older verson) and may be fitting manila 2d in it.
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Yeah I'll give that a shot.
1. Any idea what is causing the first boot issue in your 61x ROM?
2. How exactly did you get your flash.dio file below 80 MB? Mine is 80 MB, and the 20142 for ipaq612 custom ROM I just downloaded is also 80 MB.

1. I have no idea...i will try to do a port from 6.1 to 6.5 when i done exam to see what process involvoed for cross version port
2. I am using pdalcan's rom as template.rom and it is smaller,i think it has to relate to some hex edit to change the mbr

keyx said:
in the meanwhile may be you can port 6.1 21042 (if the original rom has a older verson) and may be fitting manila 2d in it.
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Well, I just successfully ported a WM6.1 21042 ROM for the ipaq 910c. XIPKitchen worked fine; all that is missing is WiFi (and I'll probably just have to stick the appropriate wrlsmgr.exe back in for that to work). IE6 is kind of a nice improvement, as is the removal of VoiceCommander, GSearch and GMaps.
Will tweak a bit and then post.

benjaminries said:
Well, I just successfully ported a WM6.1 21042 ROM for the ipaq 910c. XIPKitchen worked fine; all that is missing is WiFi (and I'll probably just have to stick the appropriate wrlsmgr.exe back in for that to work). IE6 is kind of a nice improvement, as is the removal of VoiceCommander, GSearch and GMaps.
Will tweak a bit and then post.
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Great!! If you need testers, count me in!

benjaminries
you need beta testers for 9xx ipaq? for 6.5 firmware???

roman_n1 said:
benjaminries
you need beta testers for 9xx ipaq? for 6.5 firmware???
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We still need to wait for 6.5, he's working on it, but having an issue loading the ported ROM, gets stuck in first screen...Hopefully he releases the 6.1 cust ROM soon!

tcortinag said:
We still need to wait for 6.5, he's working on it, but having an issue loading the ported ROM, gets stuck in first screen...Hopefully he releases the 6.1 cust ROM soon!
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Don't need beta testers, thanks - anything that seems to work on my end will be released.
As it stands, the WM6.5 ROM is stalled; I'll keep fidling with it, but we may have to just wait for a new build to be released before it is worth much more time investment.
The WM6.1 build 21042 is a nice update because it contains IE6 Mobile. I've got a test ROM cooked but it at least major two bugs, detailed in next post.
Of course it is rather easy to customize the factory build (number 19xxx) without any XIP porting - I can post a release that has Google Maps, Google Search and VoiceCommander removed, and a few odds and ends added. But other than that there are very few benefits.
If people want to help out, there are two things they can do:
- hunt down (on xda-devs and PPCgeeks discussion threads) new sources of WM6.5 ROMS for me to use for porting
- try to find a device ROM from which we can extract a compatible, yet better, rilgsm.dll ...the Ipaq 61x and 91x has a well-known problem where the GSM radio doesn't expose the Cell Tower ID to the OS (limiting the "My Location" feature in Google Maps to use the standard GPS only without cell tower triangulation and preventing the useful operation of other apps like Navizon). I am convinced that this problem stems to the rilgsm.dll file in which HP has not implemented this feature (but HTC certainly has).
pdadb.net says that the 91x and the 61x are both manufactured by Inventec and use a Qualcomm MSM6280 (2x QDSP4000) phone controller. If somebody can find a device ROM or just the rilgsm.dll from another phone that uses the same cell radio hardware, we should try cooking that file into our ROMs and see if it enables the desired functionality.
Getting the CNAP feature (a.k.a. Rogers Name Display) would be a bonus as well, but it looks like the Rogers HTC phones do not use the same radio (i.e. Touch Diamond and TyTN use "Qualcomm MSM7201A (QDSP4000, QDSP5000)").

benjaminries said:
The WM6.1 build 21042 is a nice update because it contains IE6 Mobile. I've got a test ROM cooked but it at least major two bugs, detailed in next post.
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Here are the bugs in my 21042 ROM so far:
BUG 1: WiFi disappears
This is weird - the blue WiFi light begins blinking during first boot and continues through the Welcome tutorial. Then once I reach the first screen, it goes out and the device behaves as though it doesn't have built-in WiFi. The Wireless Manager only shows "Bluetooth" and "Phone" options. Strange, because the SDIO wifi driver is definitely in the OS (it comes up as a network device under "Connections") but there's no interface to enable it.
BUG 2: Storage Card isn't recognized
Simply, whenever I put in a microSD card, the device does nothing. File Explorer shows no Storage Card. Memory CPL shows no Storage Card. Just good old useless iPaq File Store and Bluetooth Neighbourhood
I suspect either I've ported the XIP wrong or I've got some lack of reg entries coming from the new base SYS. But these are show-stoppers for me so I'm inclined not to post until I can at least fix one of them. Will learn to manually port the XIP and see if that helps.

benjaminries said:
Of course it is rather easy to customize the factory build (number 19xxx) without any XIP porting - I can post a release that has Google Maps, Google Search and VoiceCommander removed, and a few odds and ends added. But other than that there are very few benefits.
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Have you tried using this rom with the mods you mentioned but trying to add manila 2d?? That would be a really nice add-on.

Success!
Got the WiFi and Storage Card stuff working in build 21042 by manually porting the XIP (something I've wimped out on until now). Here's the release.
Moving on to another stab at porting keyx's WM6.5!

More success!
I just got a working WM6.5 21198 build for the 91x from keyx - just as I was figuring out the details of my own port of the same (keeping Windows Live modules out of SYS keeps the total modules low enough for G'Reloc to run without integer overflow; on the other hand that might not have been my problem).
I'm merging a dump of keyx's working ROM with my own stuff (some OEM customizations and a few extra SYS packages) to see how that works. But we've at least got something bootable; expect a release today or tomorrow.

Great!

i just tried this. it works great!! thank you. but can you make the X close button even bigger. the problem with the 910c is that the screen is not flused against the corner so it's difficult to hit that buttom sometimes. just nit picking

Thanks for this ROM
benjaminries,
Many thanks for the WM6.5 ROM you worked on. My 910c has been sitting on my desk for several months due to the lack of interest or any ROM updates from HP. (Great little phone with problems HP still has not fixed (datacard issues and POOR battery life). Your update has given me new reasons to begin using the device again. No crashes and no big problems discovered. Again, good work. Only noticed a couple of cosmetic things which are very minior and a lot of "task manager" icons in different folders. The one thing is did do was map "task manager" to the "voice commander" button on the side of the phone. Since this beast is known to suck up juice it's just a way to stay on top of things. Right now just using it on GSM network setting and getting decent battery life. Will start to see what happens when I set it to high-speed network. But again, no problems what-so-ever with your ROM. (Using 910c as limited use phone and heavy Exchange 2007)

which is the best x7500 rom???

hi guys i want to know which is the best x7500 rom (the faster, the one that its not stucking all the time...) and if is possible a link with this rom and instractions for that jop thanks...

Currently, in my opinion, is 28002.5.3.0 of AVENGERPENGUIN.
Rapid and stable WM6.5.
This is SPL 3.5
I do not know where you can download now.
If you are interested I can try upload it to FTP.
Please, read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429013

HDJ80 said:
Currently, in my opinion, is 28002.5.3.0 of AVENGERPENGUIN.
Rapid and stable WM6.5.
This is SPL 3.5
I do not know where you can download now.
If you are interested I can try upload it to FTP.
Please, read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429013
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I may still have copy of this if you need it re-uploading.
Back to the original question, it largely depends on what you want from a rom, what version of windows you want 6.1 or 6.5, do you want a full rom/lite rom, stable but older build or latest but potentially more unstable.
There are many offerings available that should suit your needs, please be aware of what SPL version you have, as mine and I think lennies only work on SPL 3.5

sorry but i am newbei so where can i see what spl i have. i want to use wm6.5 and now i have one rom created by michyprima i think this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409528 so what i need is a rom with good grafics, touchfrendyer stable and with much options(apps)....

I've tried a few, and I personally prefer michyprima's work, especially his clean editions.

The best one I've found is the Athena Project beta 6.5.
Pros-
Really quick
Most apps I've tried work
Cons-
Loads of apps cooked in
I've personally found most of the others I've tried to be slower.

As a complete noob, I've found this thread very appropriate.
I've just scored an X7500 (with strangely dropod branded) - (SPL 3.5).
It is running WM6.1, and I'm keen to upgrade it to 6.5.
I've been using this thread, and
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397518 <-- that thread to find a 6.5 version.
However, there seems to be a lot of choice, and I haven't been able to find any of the versions quoted in this thread. Although there is a 6.5 clean version by MiChy.
I'm looking for a stable, good, WinMo 6.5. I'm quite happy to have lots of apps, presumably I can uninstall ones I don't like.
The only app I really 'need' is the transcriber, and I'm sure I can install that after the fact.
So... If I don't get much response, I guess i will try out one of the MiChy versions, and see how I go.

Hmmm...
I tried downloading both the MiChy 6.5 ROMs - ie. clean, and 'normal'.
However, my antivirus software doesn't like the downloads...
15/04/2010 6:13:04 p.m. HTTP filter file rs402tl.rapidshare.com/files/220926710/1064829/Athena_SPL3.5_R1_CE_B21500_MiChY.rar probably a variant of Win32/TrojanDropper.Agent trojan connection terminated - quarantined
I'm now trying a very slow download of the 6.5 ROM by avengerpenguin
WM6.5 Build 23060 [v1.02RV][v1.02] 07/10/2009 X7500 ROM (SPL 3.5)
Will see how we go...

Hmmm... I finally downloaded the avengerpenguin ROM, extracted the rar file, and got the same antivirus warning...
I'm guessing the signature for the ROM / uploader / whatever is similar to the virus... I think I'll turn off the AV software, cross my fingers and hope for the best.

Hmmm... I finally downloaded the avengerpenguin ROM, extracted the rar file, and got the same antivirus warning...
I'm guessing the signature for the ROM / uploader / whatever is similar to the virus... I think I'll turn off the AV software, cross my fingers and hope for the best.

Don't worry about anti virus warning; it is just a false alarm. Go download whichever ROM you want. So far the 4/3/10 ROM is to me the best 6.5 ROM.

RE: Best ROM for HTC X7500....
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Don't worry about anti virus warning; it is just a false alarm. Go download whichever ROM you want. So far the 4/3/10 ROM is to me the best 6.5 ROM.
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This is interesting, I have finally got "myCHI 6.1" which is ok but sometimes freezes up, and with thumbs-up feedback of 6.5 ROM, I want to give it a go, so then where can this ROM be safely downloaded with broken links?
Thanks

I am surprised because i have used michy's wm6.1 R0 clean for almost 2 years and i hardly experience any "freeze up."

Open source rom ...

Hello to everybody, Acer S200 users, how could you understand our device is now obsolete (we are now in Legay devices,too) and our cookers seems to have stopped cooking, in practice is all stopped.
Now: there are 2 thinghs: sell our devices to buy a new one or know that your phone will no longer receive updates in future.
So, I propose to unite our forces ( and minds) and build an open source rom, where everybody can do all that he want with his own rom, but to achieve this we need a lot of collaboration...
WHO IS WITH ME ???

To be honest. i dont feel the need to get further updates... brainmasters clean rom with srs wow hd registry tweaks, tweaked version of mobile shell, igo primo etc etc.
Our roms are stable and we have the options to have several ui s even sense... so im fine I own my Neotouch since one year now and im still contended, i'll keep it as long as it runs
Windows mobile in general is dead, which is a pity, as it is still a mighty os and im actually wondering what you try to improve due to further roms, with brainmasters roms or arto's roms we can call our neotouch maxed out
P.S. and ill stick with WM as long as other OS wont offer any comparable gps programs like IGO for windows mobile...

The Rom are already there, but in my opinion should be developed Android

Maybe you haven't understand the levels that I want to reach... I can only tell you that with some benchmark I found original rom about 30 % faster than cooked one and this is anomalus because cooked rom normally are even better than official ones...

euplio said:
Hello to everybody, Acer S200 users, how could you understand our device is now obsolete (we are now in Legay devices,too) and our cookers seems to have stopped cooking, in practice is all stopped.
Now: there are 2 thinghs: sell our devices to buy a new one or know that your phone will no longer receive updates in future.
So, I propose to unite our forces ( and minds) and build an open source rom, where everybody can do all that he want with his own rom, but to achieve this we need a lot of collaboration...
WHO IS WITH ME ???
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Hi Euplio, Stefano has already released the Kitchen for Acer S200. I have downloaded it and customized it for all of my ROM's. Why don't you do it also?
Everything you need is on this forum - Stefano's Kitchen, newest SYS Builds, OEM Packages, Manila Packages. You just need to invest time, find and put everything together.
You had a plenty of time to do that since you also cook your own ROM's.
So, why don't you start, and the people will support you.
If you only ASK and don't DO anything, then you will ACHIEVE NOTHING.
If you need some help, I can always look into Forum to help you.

hmmm
maybe we can collect all sorts of packages (exts) and make a repository of packages for cooking. as far as i am concerned, the chefs here have done the best possible. i have cooked roms from arto, kubino and brains roms on all 3 of my s200.

So c'mon I'gonna start making ultra-light rom good base for spb mobile + "DROID PRO+ 2.2 by DOC3000 & MSKIP" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833941 because I find it the best alternative to the htc sense, what do you think?

Hi guys my ultra-light rom is now finished, I need beta testers...

Where is the thread with this rom???? is it in Italian ????
Post more information...

iacopocantoni said:
Where is the thread with this rom???? is it in Italian ????
Post more information...
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It is the lighter rom I ever seen on our device since now, but for now is beta, so I need private beta-testers, if do you want to try it I can send you via p.m. (private message) the link. Yes, it is italian

yes, i'm interested to test your ROM but I don't know what I have to do exactly...

I'm interested to test your ROM.I was a beta testers of the 3.5 rom Stefano.
Bye

[Q] Multilanguage rom making and some starter questions.

I'm making a rom for my HTC Touch2/mega. My currently installed rom is stock rom. Which is comes with my phone and it has no official version of it here. It's in Turkish language and 6,5 but I want to make it 6.5.5 So I'm trying to use this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544445
(And I don't wan't to lose the original room. Without HardSPL Can't I backup it right?)
And my rom is customized for an operator. So I want to build it in Turkish language. I have the mui's but I'm not sure they will work on 6.5.5 and I wan't to make it multilanguge. Because as default it's asking to me which language I wan't to use. I wan't to add this option too.
But if I try to build a new rom based on my current rom the operator customizations is continues? Like I can't use hdspa/3g with another operator (phone keeps crashing).
And
216xx = HTC htc
217xx = COM1, continuing dev of 6.5.0.1 - 6.5.0.40
218xx = COM2, continuing dev of 6.5.0.50
219xx = MD, feature test branch, pretty much dead now. (unstable features are added here, this tree is based on COM1, so older base OS code, but the UI/UX code is newer)
22xxx = SEMC sony ericsson
*230xx = COM3, continuing development
*234xx = COM4, appears to be abandoned.
*235xx = COM5, more GUI changes here. New Outlook Interface.
*236xx = LG Electronics Branch
*24xxx = Possible HTC branch
*25xxx = SEMC - Sony Ericsson
*280xx, 282xx = WMD. This is a continuation of com3 from 23090. Most of the changes appear to be with IE
29xxx - Unknown
235xx has threaded email
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Is there something matter If I choose not the Htc one's like 29xxx?
And Since Microsoft close the my phone Is there any point of keeping it in rom?
And Can I add video calling feature to my Mega with that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425937&highlight=video
WinCENLS_WWE and what is exactly doing? Is that neccessary for me? WWE means World Wide Edition?
Thanks

No answers? Guys please, I'm waiting for your anwers to cook my rom.

You touched several different problems.
Unfortunately each 6.5.x build will demand reviewing of most of the mui files. I know by myself. I used to build PLK versions of Jackos' ROMs and he has 2 series of ROMs (with 6.5 and 6.5.3 builds).
So you have to choose a build basing on information about it's stability/reliability, not ability to work with Turkish .muis. Either way you will need to mod some of them.
Second problem is to dump an existing ROM which I honestly know nothing about. But if it's a stock ROM, you should be able to find it somewhere anyway. By the information that you have to choose a language at first startup I think that it was not an official Turkish ROM, but the base for the device was WWE (World Wide English) and then there was a mod added by sunnysoft (http://firma.sunnysoft.cz/htc/). That's the same way it is done with Rhodium. We have no official Polish ROM, but only a sunnysoft plugin that enables the language choosing after a HR.
You can find there the newest WWE ROM and the language localization pack that you need.
Sooo I think what you should look for is an official WWE ROM (the version number you should have in Start -> Settings -> System -> Device information -> Software information) and a Sunnysoft mod with a set of different language.
Another problem is that you want to be able to choose a language after a HR. I don't recommend this method because:
- the way it is done by Sunnysoft is that they add a cab file with necessary modifications to a rom and run it after a HR by means of a .lua file or config.txt. The cab file script first asks the user for the language and then installs another cab according to the choosen language.
That means the resource files (and any other that must be added to the ROM) are just injected into the system as files. They do not delete the original english files from the ROM, but just add their own. Besides many of the .mui files (at least the ones from Base_Lang_0xxx package) should be placed as modules not files because otherwise they compromise the memory management.
So what I learned is that you should make as much changes to the ROM via the kitchen and not by a .cab file.
Furthermore the cab file is not able to make all the system changes. I know because I used to produce special PLK .cab files for Polish users of Rhodium. Mainly because we do not have a good Polish ROM and the Sunnysoft version had many bugs.
And there are a lot more changes that it's better to do during cooking than on the "real ROM".
As for myphone of course you can throw it out. It's not necessary anymore.

When I copy changelanguage.exe from my device to computer I was saw Sunnysoft. So like you said there is no official rom in Turkish. And yes it really has so much bug/mistranslates.
Actually I don't want big changes in my rom. I just want update it to 6.5.x
And yes really thanks.
My rom is 1.30.xxx.x but There was several updates on HTC support page so I installed them. Maybe they are updated the version. Should I install them to rom when I building it? Or they will just gone when I install 6.5.x 29xxx
And It seems It will be really hard to translate it to Turkish. Could you teach me? Or maybe not. f it comes too hard to me Maybe we won't be able to 6.5.x Turkish language. Whatever. I wan't to update my phone to 6.5.x without change much.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578915
And there is an wwe edition it says but when i download it there is nothing called with wwe. so I download the sunnysofts version.

Well, I'm afraid you asking too advanced questions for me.
I never changed the build of the ROM. I only developed and adjusted language files to the ROM cooked by someone else (in my case Jackos and Seem_ZA).
That's why I know that even the .mui files are different among different builds.
The "Latest Official ROM" in the thread you provided is 1.28.401.4, and you write that your ROM is 1.30, so I guess you should take the one from Sunnysoft, dump it and then before you try to translate it, try to change the build. You will se if it is stable, if everything works, and then you will decide if you should include all the fixes HTC provided or not.
Remember - the 6.5.x builds are not "official" (except for some phones offered on Chinese market). Furthermore they are not made by HTC as well, so it's rather not likely that they have their fixes. On the other hand you should look into the fixes and try to judge by what they contain. I'm definitely not advanced ehough to help on it.
But I feel that for you the most important matter is read about cooking so that you know what to do and you know what you should change.
Dump the official ROM (from sunnysoft page) using any kitchen system, look into it, try to understand what parts it is made of. There are some tutorials floating over xda like "basics of ROM cooking" or "Kitchen and utensils for cooks" etc. Changing build is a bit complicated task. You will probably not cook a good&stable ROM without knowing the basics.
On the other hand perhaps you will find a good 6.5.x cooked ROM for Mega for which the chef published his kitchen. Then most of the hard work is done, because you don't need to mess up with build changing, testing performance, optimising XIP and many other tasks.
Then you can start thinking of changing the kitchen to compile a Turkish ROM.

Yes. I get it. So I'm starting build a new rom then if it's works good and stable I will try the translate it. And I will come to you for ask your help. And I know they are not official. If they were I don't even think about the upgrade it Thank you very much

If about language modification I can say that I'm quite "trained", but if about ROM cooking... I have very basic problems (look at my 2 questions on the top of Chef central). So I'm sure you need someone much more experienced to start your cooking adventure. Unfortunately WinMo is slowly dying, so almost nobody looks over here anymore...