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What interferes with OTA updates?

So after receiving my replacement vibrant i've decided to simply root and use some of the apps i used to like. Assuming i don't end up breaking under pressure and flashing a ROM, will things such as morphs and changing system apps not allow an OTA to successfully flash and boot? I did apply a black bar mod with an accurate battery but other than that i've done nothing but app related activities that require root. So, say when the official 2.2 comes out, would i have to revert my framework to stock as well before accepting the update? Like I said, currently I remain on stock JI6 with the stock kernel.

I think you need to be completely stock, no mods, for an ota to take. If not you'll most likely brick
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That's not true. You can have all kinds of mods. The only thing you need is touchwiz running during the ota time frame and you will get it.
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For instance I was running jfd and jacs oc/uv kernel and a battery mod + a meta morph theme and no home replacement app and I got the update
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blackerwater said:
For instance I was running jfd and jacs oc/uv kernel and a battery mod + a meta morph theme and no home replacement app and I got the update
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yeah, but did it work? were your mods still there? i was told that having a different kernel will not allow the update to come through

My phone went to stock . Booted up with stock ji6 with ji6 kernel . I had to reroot even though my super user app was still there and reapply mods just like when you odin a stock rom . The only difference was my apps stayed in system/app and system/app-private and carried over with the update.
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Hmm, I was just basing my comment on all the threads saying there were modded and ended up brickin...i havent even got the update yet so I dont know for sure
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metalfan78 said:
Hmm, I was just basing my comment on all the threads saying there were modded and ended up brickin...i havent even got the update yet so I dont know for sure
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The ones that bricked were probably running voodo . That changes things... So if your running stock jfd and a voodo kernel your most likely to brick. But odin will save you.
O and you haven't recieved the ota yet?? That sucks. Why havent you used keys mini from samsung thats an official way to upgrade.
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All I had at the time was root, clockwork rom, titanium backup and launcher pro and mine bricked (well soft bricked)...
Now, I'm running bionix 1.9.1 and loving it...hahahaha

Ive never used mini kies before, I wouldnt trust my old ass pc, I try not to use odin too much either
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blackerwater said:
The ones that bricked were probably running voodo .
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Mine soft brick , no voodo

So I need lagfix for stock jk6?

Do I?
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i personally think the lag fixes are only for inflated quadrant scores. might provide some usable speed in jk6, but not really necessary IMO
running nero beta 2 right now, and it's so frickin fast i don't see any need for any lag fixes. ymmv.

Alanrocks15 said:
Do I?
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No, but a completely fresh install is recommended.

Alanrocks15 said:
Do I?
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Personally, I'm running this kernel that Eugene posted:
http://eb-productions.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=samsungsgs&action=display&thread=28
It's from a leaked 2.2.1 Vibrant build. It improves write speed without converting partitions to different file systems. If you do go with a lagfix, I'd go with ttabbal's voodoo kernel. It drains battery because it's an I9000 build, but ext4 is less prone to corruption. Ext2 lagfixes are the fastest, but have the most problems. They'll run fine for a week, then all of a sudden you start getting random force closes or see apps disappearing.

heygrl said:
No, but a completely fresh install is recommended.
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Fresh install? Oh and I have stock jk6 and I dont want custom roms
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lagfix not necessary. i ran one once and while the quadrant score was cute, i didn't notice any real world improvement.
you're better off with a custom rom and/or oc kernel.

The reason I dont want a custom rom is because I want to have all my apps and info and not keep wiping
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Alanrocks15 said:
The reason I dont want a custom rom is because I want to have all my apps and info and not keep wiping
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understandable, but that's what titanium backup is for (and there's a free version). you can backup all your apps and data and restore it after a flash.
not telling you to flash a custom rom, but you are probably going to get more out of a custom kernel/rom than lagfix.

funeralthirst said:
understandable, but that's what titanium backup is for (and there's a free version). you can backup all your apps and data and restore it after a flash.
not telling you to flash a custom rom, but you are probably going to get more out of a custom kernel/rom than lagfix.
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Oh yeah forgot about that
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Jpy through kies faster then jpy through odin

I just noticed that upgrading throuh reg hack on Kies makes the phone run smoother than the same firmware while upgrading on Odin.
I don't know if this has to do with using one file in Odin however just wanted to share.
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Is it the same file or two different files .
Kies your official network firmware Odin presume you are using a stock non provider file .
jje

Is JPY officially available on Kies?

sonci said:
I just noticed that upgrading throuh reg hack on Kies makes the phone run smoother than the same firmware while upgrading on Odin.
I don't know if this has to do with using one file in Odin however just wanted to share.
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How did you determine this? Might just be a placebo effect or related to something else you did / didn't do (e.g. factory reset / cache wipe).

ragin said:
Is JPY officially available on Kies?
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Yes. I flashed to it last night. I downgraded via odin back to 2.1. Downloaded kies 2.0 and it came up with JPY firmware. So far so good, GPS is meh, didnt use it enough today though. Ive never had GPS issues previously, through either official 2.1 roms or non official 2.2 roms. Ill test more 2 moro

This is pure bs as usual. When u install a new f/w benchmarks always run slightly faster till u get memory filled up with installed programs.
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I don't care about benchmarks. I was speaking of generally using the phone.
The phone is smoother, there is no more lag. There was always lag before even with no programs installed.
However it can be placebo,
I also noticed that after flashing some kernel (for going back to 2e recovery) immediately reappears the lag
The stock 2.2.1 is also smoother to me than Darky rom, however they equal after applying lagfix on Darky.
lgkahn said:
This is pure bs as usual. When u install a new f/w benchmarks always run slightly faster till u get memory filled up with installed programs.
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[INFO] Reduce / Eliminate FCs (and perhaps reboots)

For those of you who are having FC's or reboot problems, I recommend trying this (on all roms):
clear cache / DC 3x
flash the rom form the sd card
immediately flash the rom again
Do all of this without rebooting. What ive noticed a LOT is that I often get curious issues with roms, and then I flash them again and dont get those issues anymore (--or, I get a different set of curious issues). Since i do everything else the same, it seems that it must have been the flash that was problematic. just as we have grown accustomed to wipe data multiple times to ensure a successful clear, we should also become accustomed to flashing (especially for larger files more prone to exhibiting problems) multiple times to ensure a clean and successful write.
I know there was a GB ram leakage problem with EG22/EH06 which was causing reboots, but even with these roms you shouldnt be experiencing FC's right out of the box. A lot of people have claimed to run EH17 without any reboots (or FCs) so you too should be able to experience it. Good luck all.
PS - If you have Journaling OFF, make sure your phone doesn't die due to lack of power! Keep it charged. Four times so far I've been thrown into the chaos of "The application Google services Framework has stopped unexpectedly," due to letting un-journaled phones die. Now, I just keep it on for data safety / integrity.

First. Good tip.
you'll probably get flamed for posting this in development though.
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ksmullins88 said:
First. Good tip.
you'll probably get flamed for posting this in development though.
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We are a kinder, gentler community lately..lol
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JohnCorleone said:
We are a kinder, gentler community lately..lol
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thank god lol

I brought the lighters, let's getm,,,,, oh, well damn, good tip man.

You know I have never had to flash anything twice and things go pretty well with my flashes for the most part but I do one thing that isn't usually mentioned. After I do all the wipes 3x (data cache dalvik) I go into mounts and storage and I format data cache and system. The data and cache obviously have already been formatted but none of the wipes ever touch system. The ROM script must do that I guess, but I figure why not play it safe and personally clean all the file systems... Works for me.
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I have been doing thing for a long time. Because of the same weird kinda thing you found.
Good post
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thanx for the tip man.....will try next time I flash a new ROM

this is what i did after seeingit in a post and mines is runnign goood so far ...question how do u know if journaling is on or off

great tip.. im about to try it RIGHT NOW.. I have wiped and reinstalled roms for the past 2 days now.. because I keep getting reboots and force closes.. even before I try to install any new apps.. im now on a rooted stock deodexed EG22.. that I just flashed about 2 hours ago.. I will now try a custom rom and fash twice and see how it works out for me..

This sounded interesting so I broke my vow not to flash gingerbread again until it was released. I decided to do everything differently than I had in all the previous installs and follow the OPs directions. I'm running EC05 rooted with CWM, so I downloaded the stock odex EH17 zip, followed the clearing suggestions in this post, and flashed EH17 in CWM. Flashed it twice as suggested. Flashed SU, and rebooted.
Long story short, after about 90 minutes it rebooted on its own.
Glad I made a nandroid backup before I started this, because I'm back on stock EC05 rooted again.

all gb roms will have fc's; this is just a procedure to make sure that the fc's you Do experience are caused by errors in the rom's programming as opposed to flashing errors =]
i too am on rking's ec05

Uthman said:
all gb roms will have fc's; this is just a procedure to make sure that the fc's you Do experience are caused by errors in the rom's programming as opposed to flashing errors =]
i too am on rking's ec05
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I don't get any FCs on Hurricane 1.6. AND no reboots whatsoever with the Tegrak/SetCPU fix in the other thread.
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Can someone link to the fix?
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I can also assure everyone, turning your head to the right, while flashing, improves the data connection speeds with any GB modem.

kennyglass123 said:
I don't get any FCs on Hurricane 1.6. AND no reboots whatsoever with the Tegrak/SetCPU fix in the other thread.
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I had great success with EH17 using the Tegrak config along with the EH17Plus Kernel. Also, I found that the only time I did get a reboot was when I was using the hotspot or wireless tether. But it only happened when the phone got hot and was NOT on the charger. No reboots at all when tethering if I had the phone plugged into the charger, or during any other usage. I recently went back to EC05 to use the SRF1.2 ROM. EH17's modem was a lot faster too, imo. Going back when more ROMs become available.
Also, I tried Hurricane but got fc's. I'll try it again with the doube flash. I liked it otherwise. Now that I think about it, I was flashing modems and started getting fc's on SRF1.2. But none after I flashed it again (double). So this may be the trick if you're having fc's.
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ROM: SRF 1.2
Kernel: Revolted
Modem: EC05

brewdude said:
Can someone link to the fix?
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I can get you a link later. On my phone right now. But what I can do is go post in it and move it up to the top. It is in this forum marked possible fix for random reboots on GB leaks.
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aosp lte issue

I have no idea why this seems only to be happening to my phone... I get zero 4g despite my phone showing 4g. I have updated profile and prl in tw... I have tried twrp and cwm. I just can't get 4g on a aosp ROM. Any help would be appreciated. Both screen shots show speed tests in the same place while I was at work.

It's been known that aosp in Many cases causes this. My last phone epic 4g touch was the same way. Flash stock rom and data speeds back to normal
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wojo797 said:
I have no idea why this seems only to be happening to my phone... I get zero 4g despite my phone showing 4g. I have updated profile and prl in tw... I have tried twrp and cwm. I just can't get 4g on a aosp ROM. Any help would be appreciated. Both screen shots show speed tests in the same place while I was at work.
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I have had issues with aosp when I would dirty flash. I'm currently running Carbon and 4g is running great. Just try a clean install. Could also consider that we are mostly on nightlys and unofficial releases. No telling as of yet but I'm getting pretty good speeds on Carbon
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jaaybs said:
I have had issues with aosp when I would dirty flash. I'm currently running Carbon and 4g is running great. Just try a clean install. Could also consider that we are mostly on nightlys and unofficial releases. No telling as of yet but I'm getting pretty good speeds on Carbon
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I always do a full wipe before I flash a aosp ROM.. I seem to be the only one on the forums having this issue. the only thing I can think of is a bad modem. Haven't found a flashable modem so I may unroot odin stock and reroot and see what that gets me. I only run aosp roms on all my phones...this is killing me

wojo797 said:
I always do a full wipe before I flash a aosp ROM.. I seem to be the only one on the forums having this issue. the only thing I can think of is a bad modem. Haven't found a flashable modem so I may unroot odin stock and reroot and see what that gets me. I only run aosp roms on all my phones...this is killing me
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From what I understand we can't flash modems yet. Are you on MDL or MDC? I have had issues with the modem on TW after unrooting on MDL, but they were fixed when I reinstalled the update from Sprint.
Not really sure how the radios interact with AOSP, but could have something to do with the differences between the update.