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What interferes with OTA updates?

So after receiving my replacement vibrant i've decided to simply root and use some of the apps i used to like. Assuming i don't end up breaking under pressure and flashing a ROM, will things such as morphs and changing system apps not allow an OTA to successfully flash and boot? I did apply a black bar mod with an accurate battery but other than that i've done nothing but app related activities that require root. So, say when the official 2.2 comes out, would i have to revert my framework to stock as well before accepting the update? Like I said, currently I remain on stock JI6 with the stock kernel.

I think you need to be completely stock, no mods, for an ota to take. If not you'll most likely brick
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That's not true. You can have all kinds of mods. The only thing you need is touchwiz running during the ota time frame and you will get it.
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For instance I was running jfd and jacs oc/uv kernel and a battery mod + a meta morph theme and no home replacement app and I got the update
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blackerwater said:
For instance I was running jfd and jacs oc/uv kernel and a battery mod + a meta morph theme and no home replacement app and I got the update
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yeah, but did it work? were your mods still there? i was told that having a different kernel will not allow the update to come through

My phone went to stock . Booted up with stock ji6 with ji6 kernel . I had to reroot even though my super user app was still there and reapply mods just like when you odin a stock rom . The only difference was my apps stayed in system/app and system/app-private and carried over with the update.
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Hmm, I was just basing my comment on all the threads saying there were modded and ended up brickin...i havent even got the update yet so I dont know for sure
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metalfan78 said:
Hmm, I was just basing my comment on all the threads saying there were modded and ended up brickin...i havent even got the update yet so I dont know for sure
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The ones that bricked were probably running voodo . That changes things... So if your running stock jfd and a voodo kernel your most likely to brick. But odin will save you.
O and you haven't recieved the ota yet?? That sucks. Why havent you used keys mini from samsung thats an official way to upgrade.
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All I had at the time was root, clockwork rom, titanium backup and launcher pro and mine bricked (well soft bricked)...
Now, I'm running bionix 1.9.1 and loving it...hahahaha

Ive never used mini kies before, I wouldnt trust my old ass pc, I try not to use odin too much either
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blackerwater said:
The ones that bricked were probably running voodo .
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Mine soft brick , no voodo

Best Lagfix for Froyo Roms?

I have had my phone rooted and running custom roms for months now. I never had the courage to try a lagfix though. I would like to try now that i have a better understanding of nandroid backups, and titanium backups, and how to use ODIN if necessary.
So my question to all the users is which lagfix works best with the current batch of FROYO roms? Let me know what you guys think, and if you could provide a link to a thread or website that includes instructions on how to apply and reverse the lagfix, i would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks!

GameOver69 said:
I have had my phone rooted and running custom roms for months now. I never had the courage to try a lagfix though. I would like to try now that i have a better understanding of nandroid backups, and titanium backups, and how to use ODIN if necessary.
So my question to all the users is which lagfix works best with the current batch of FROYO roms? Let me know what you guys think, and if you could provide a link to a thread or website that includes instructions on how to apply and reverse the lagfix, i would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks!
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There are a few poll threads going around about Froyo. Maybe not lag fixes specifically but it is mentioned often. I find lagfix is less needed on Froyo.
I am using Axura 2.0.5 its very snappy without a lagfix. However there is a VooDoo kernel for it. I don't use it. OCLF seems to not play well yet on some 2.2. Some it does.
TeamWiskey makes good Roms for lagfixes. And Eugene cranks out the cool tweakable kernals and Roms.
There's s alot to checkout, flash away! Search the site and use the Vibrant Bible it has most links you need. The unistal Voodoo is allover the site, just search.
If you don't know yet, always disabled or uninstall any lagfix prior to flashing a new rom. OCLF Iis very easy to uninstall.
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So bringing this thread back to life.
I'm on Deodexed/Rooted stock KB5 and my phone lately is lagging a lot.
What lag fix do you guys recommend?
I was thinking about Voodoo?
I've never applied any lagfix.
Is there anything I should consider? Complications? Future flashing problems? Backing up necessary? Unexpected issues I should know about? Etc etc..

SamsungVibrant said:
So bringing this thread back to life.
I'm on Deodexed/Rooted stock KB5 and my phone lately is lagging a lot.
What lag fix do you guys recommend?
I was thinking about Voodoo?
I've never applied any lagfix.
Is there anything I should consider? Complications? Future flashing problems? Backing up necessary? Unexpected issues I should know about? Etc etc..
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Voodoo lagfix. It's pretty much standard now on the vibrant, and there really isn't anything to worry about, assuming you flash a voodoo kernel with a charged battery. But it's so widely supported, you more than likely won't find anything that doesn't support it.
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Try the new Darky 10.2 rom. It works good and has voodoo 6 + lagfix.

onasri15 said:
Try the new Darky 10.2 rom. It works good and has voodoo 6 + lagfix.
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What is voodoo 6?
I installed kb5 kernel with voodoo and noticed no difference in lag improvement. My phone still lags.

I use toxic 8 with the v6 scripts and bali x kernel. Dragon kernel #1 ran smooth too. fastest my phone has run in past few months with no lag. I only overclock to 1100mhz otherwise it locks up. Good battery life too.
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What is the best kernel for vibrant

Guys im ruining on nero v3 and jk6 modern and the voodoo 5 stick kernel that came with nero v3, with voodo enabled. so problem is that I run out of battery fast faster than stock jl6 on 2.1,so what is the best kernel with good battery life and performance. Stock kernel gives me some lag. So il avoid that one.

FYI: Voodoo will ALWAYS drain your battery faster than stock.

it happened to me too. i went in recovery, advance and wipe the battery stat and now the battery last much longer.

anthonys2r said:
FYI: Voodoo will ALWAYS drain your battery faster than stock.
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Why do you say? Voodoo uses stock kernels except it converts partitions to ext4.
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Yeh guys, i bought my vibrant from it first came out and have been waiting on Froyo from Samsung even b4 the Droidx and i'm very disappointed. so now i turn to Xda and have been following up on wht u guys have been doing.
My only problem is i don't knw how to root my phone so if anyone out there can help me. or else i will end up buying the nexus s which i really don't want to do bc it another samsung phone.

anthonys2r said:
FYI: Voodoo will ALWAYS drain your battery faster than stock.
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Your caps make it sound significant, its not much at all, maybe not even noticeable.
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birgertime said:
Why do you say? Voodoo uses stock kernels except it converts partitions to ext4.
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I'm not entirely sure why but I think its because the system has to constantly convert the data to ext4 rather than having a native rfs. Don't take my explanation as fact though. But from personal experience and countless posts from others, its known that Voodoo will always drain faster than stock.

The easiest way to root your device would be to go into the development section and there is a post at the very top that says the vibrant bible and download the one click root or one of the other methods listed. That will root your device then u need to go to the market and download Rom Manager. Then find a custom Rom that u like and put it on the internal sd card. I am using Eugene's macnut r14. After u put it where it goes then go into Rom Manager and click flash clockwork mod recovery. It will have a list of phones click on the vibrant. After it downloads click on boot into recovery. It may take u to the stock recovery, if it does move down using the volume down button and select "Reinstall Packages" using the power button it should then take u to clockwork mod. In there click install zip from sd card. Scroll down using the volume down button and select it using the power button again. Then once u find the rom click the power button again once it is highlighted. It will ask are u sure that u want to install this. Scroll down and select yes. And that is it you are then done and now will have 2.2 if the rom u picked had it. Also before u install the rom but after u root the device download Titanium Backup and make a backup of all your apps and that will also save your data with those apps. If u need any help feel free to P.M. me because that is easier then finding this thread again.
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Im no noob when it comes to flashing but I flashed back to stock using odin last week, immediately afterwards I flashed back to nero v3. So today I flashed eugenes super io kernel after disabling voodoo of course, went into oclf to enable the lag fix but to my surprise its saying my phone isn't rooted?? So the option of installing the lag fix isn't available to me. Yet I've been able to flash custom roms???? I don't get it
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my phone just talked to me!

Ok so i just installed the new eb01 rom and i also installed the voodoo kernel at the same time. On initial bootup my phone seemed to freeze at the samsung screen, i was like oh awesome it froze lol, but then my phone started talking to me in this computer lady voice about how it is changing the file system. It kinda scared me at first. Not sure if this is a new thing or not but it was strange....
Just thought id let ya guys know what happened to me at 7 in the morning lol. Hearing my phone talk to me, ya know im awake and ready for my day

That was the voodoo lady. Letting you know you activated it.
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Haha voodoo noob
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Yep, all Voodoo kernels do that, in order to let you know that your phone is actually doing something, instead of just appearing to be frozen.

I was wondering if someone can post the voodoo link for eb1. I apparently don't have enough posts to download it lol. Thanks in advance!
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davzava said:
I was wondering if someone can post the voodoo link for eb1. I apparently don't have enough posts to download it lol. Thanks in advance!
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Post some more that's the point of needing 10 post to post in this thread
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There are ninja's in your phone

Isnt it a headache to get rid of voodoo if you ever decide to go back to an ota build?

Ok so I know this comes down to preference... BUT I'm still in noob mode and haven't messed with Android at all. So what is the benefit of installing the lagfix? Is it really that noticeable or more placebo effect?
I'm running stock DL30 and was just wondering if it is worth the time and energy to "update" to EB01 and use voodoo as well....
Have any of you that have installed EB01 seen anything new and/or improved from DL30 and with or without voodoo? Odexed vs Deodexed?
Just looking for some opinions before jumping in... Have everything downloaded and ready though Thanks for any input!

Forewarning about installing VooDoo LagFix.
Just a heads up with installing VooDoo... Next time you install another Kernel or ROM, you should disable VooDoo Lagfix in Recovery before you flash a kernel or a ROM again. If the kernel you are upgrading to is a VooDoo kernel or the ROM you are install has a VooDoo Kernel integrated.
You do this by going into Recovery and VooDoo menu at the bottom. You enable or disable it there. Then restart to let the VooDoo kernel take care of itself.
And if you do manage to destroy what you did...
Use Odin to flash an all in one such as this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=911677
What VooDoo LagFix does is convert your RFS file system to EXT4. It also messes with the Master Boot Record or MBR. If you accidentally leave it in EXT4 and flash over it with a different kernel that expects RFS, your phone will lock your storage out. For those of you without Linux experience, EXT4 is basically a souped up NTFS where RFS is more like FAT32.
All Credits for this post go to Adryenalyne.

RacerXFD said:
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For those of you without Linux experience, EXT4 is basically a souped up NTFS where RFS is more like FAT32.
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I really like this explanation haha

rctreadaway said:
Isnt it a headache to get rid of voodoo if you ever decide to go back to an ota build?
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Not really. Just boot to Red CWM (included with Voodoo kernels), disable it. Reboot, and then flash whatever stock rom you want.

RacerXFD said:
Forewarning about installing VooDoo LagFix.
Just a heads up with installing VooDoo... Next time you install another Kernel or ROM, you should disable VooDoo Lagfix in Recovery before you flash a kernel or a ROM again. If the kernel you are upgrading to is a VooDoo kernel or the ROM you are install has a VooDoo Kernel integrated.
You do this by going into Recovery and VooDoo menu at the bottom. You enable or disable it there. Then restart to let the VooDoo kernel take care of itself.
And if you do manage to destroy what you did...
Use Odin to flash an all in one such as this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=911677
What VooDoo LagFix does is convert your RFS file system to EXT4. It also messes with the Master Boot Record or MBR. If you accidentally leave it in EXT4 and flash over it with a different kernel that expects RFS, your phone will lock your storage out. For those of you without Linux experience, EXT4 is basically a souped up NTFS where RFS is more like FAT32.
All Credits for this post go to Adryenalyne.
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Um, I feel the need to clarify this. You DO NOT have to disable the lag fix in order to install ROMs, as long as you use the red version of CWM that the Voodoo kernel installed on your phone, replacing the stock recovery, and as long as the ROM you're flashing doesn't include a non-Voodoo kernel. Also, again using the red Voodoo CWM, you can install any other Voodoo kernel without disabling the lag fix. I have done it many times without incident. You only have to disable the lag fix if you intend to flash a non-Voodoo kernel, since the new kernel can't handle the EXT4 filesystem.
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Curious though...sc 2.1 includes a voodoo kernel, but it's my understanding that voodoo isn't technically operational on ebo1 yet? Am I missing something here? Is the sc 2.1 voodoo functioning like regular voodoo?

jenisiz said:
Curious though...sc 2.1 includes a voodoo kernel, but it's my understanding that voodoo isn't technically operational on ebo1 yet? Am I missing something here? Is the sc 2.1 voodoo functioning like regular voodoo?
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You can only get voodoo for EB01 through the fascinate IRC channel right now. It is still being tested.

voodoo does come installed
There are 2 versions posted now voodoo and non-voodoo. I was wondering the same thing until i installed it. i think I read the same posts stating that it was not available yet. But it is! just not sold separately at your local retail stores. My phone talking to me, scared my wife when I was playing around with the lag fix in bed.

So if I understand you guys correctly, if I don't like the froyo voodoo kernel or want to restore a nandroid backup that doesn't have voodoo, I first need to disable voodoo in the red CWM using the voodoo menu. Once it changes the file system back to stock, I can then restore my nandroid backup.
Does that sound correct?

iviustang50h said:
So if I understand you guys correctly, if I don't like the froyo voodoo kernel or want to restore a nandroid backup that doesn't have voodoo, I first need to disable voodoo in the red CWM using the voodoo menu. Once it changes the file system back to stock, I can then restore my nandroid backup.
Does that sound correct?
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Yes, as long as you disable first...

RacerXFD said:
Yes, as long as you disable first...
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Thank you!

[Q] ROMS LAGFIX etc.

I have a few questions.
I understand there are official updates for our phones 2.1->2.2 but they are operator based. So there are customized roms, that are with custom stuff.
I'm really intereseted in upgrading from 2.1 official rom to a custom, but dont know exactly which one to choose.
I once flashed a 2.2 but it bricked my phone, so i had it repaired (the phone didnt respond to any key combinations or anything at all).
So is there any point to upgrade if there isnt any stable roms.
And also why is everyone waiting for the official update from samsung when there are already 2.2 roms for 5800.
Lagfix seems like a thing to try out, but i want to be sure which rom is the best and so that the basic stuff works.

Don't know about others, but my reason for not upgrading to unofficial/custom ROMs is that I don't want to risk my phone (even if that risk may be small..)..I also don't have time to backup data, reset phone, re-install app.s, do settings again etc. which might be needed in the flashing process.
Besides, from what I read in this forum, none of the ROMs seems to be satisfactory enough & ready for prime time. But frankly, I am losing my patience fast & may soon go for a custom ROM if official upgrade doesn't arrive by end of this month..damn Samsung for taking sooo long..

TekkenLaw said:
Don't know about others, but my reason for not upgrading to unofficial/custom ROMs is that I don't want to risk my phone (even if that risk may be small..)..I also don't have time to backup data, reset phone, re-install app.s, do settings again etc. which might be needed in the flashing process.
Besides, from what I read in this forum, none of the ROMs seems to be satisfactory enough & ready for prime time. But frankly, I am losing my patience fast & may soon go for a custom ROM if official upgrade doesn't arrive by end of this month..damn Samsung for taking sooo long..
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Thanks for your reply, that's what i wanted to know. I was thinking the same thing that probably the custom roms arent stable enough and that the official update still aint available.

Why don't you use a stock 2.2 ROM like the JPF?

shuvabrata said:
Why don't you use a stock 2.2 ROM like the JPF?
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is it safe and works fine just like the default 2.1 that we have in our phones?

Sure ^^ and you cant brick your phone if you dont flash your bootloader^^ jpf also works faster^^ i would recommend to flash a custom rom. Like lestatious one. Everything works well on it^^ have fun
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just dont flash the bootloader and you can always reenter download mode.
backing up isn't that big of an issue, titanium backup backs up pretty much everything.

If you're planning on using titanium, just be aware that you should only restore non android apps when switching from eclair to froyo..i tried this and kept getting fc's. Just make backups of stuff in the individual apps like contacts etc, then restore them after you upgrade to froyo. Then make a full titanium backup of everything once you have your phone the way you want it. From then on you can just test any rom you like and always have a quick easy way of getting your stuff back. I recommend using astro to backup titanium so you can have a version to hand after flashing.
P.S. I use jfp ultra clean and it rocks my socks
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Ok, i might try out the stock 2.2 rom... But what about lagfixes or are they even neccessary on 2.2?
Cause my current 2.1 stock rom is really laggy, i remove tasks to clean up memory but it's still kinda slow.

Well if you're flashing a stock rom I would definately suggest JPF because it's pretty stable. You don't necessarily need the lagfix though..I personally found it made things a bit strange with random hangs when closing applications. Oh yeah and don't forget to use the modded 3d gallery from SGS Tools (I use the "last" version). You should be able to install it via the "Upgrade stock apps" option. You can also use it to change your GPS pool to Europe if needed.

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Well if you're flashing a stock rom I would definately suggest JPF because it's pretty stable. You don't necessarily need the lagfix though..I personally found it made things a bit strange with random hangs when closing applications. Oh yeah and don't forget to use the modded 3d gallery from SGS Tools (I use the "last" version). You should be able to install it via the "Upgrade stock apps" option. You can also use it to change your GPS pool to Europe if needed.
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So the jpf rom isnt europe or just needs some configs like that? But is the stock rom the best option, i don't neccessarily need all those extra stuff like samsung apps and layar etc. Pauri mentioned lestatious rom, its on JPA, for example. Is each one one of those stock roms like an update with still some bugs on them or just converted from other phone updates?
I'm between that custom rom and the JPF stock right now..

Oh it's a european rom, it's just that the default gps pool is set to north america. I installed The modded 3d gallery as a work around for the battery drain bug that the stock gallery has in froyo. Jpf clean is what I'm using till theres a more stable lestat rom because I tried jp9, which was good, but the bloatware...oh my..
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shr33kant said:
Oh it's a european rom, it's just that the default gps pool is set to north america. I installed The modded 3d gallery as a work around for the battery drain bug that the stock gallery has in froyo. Jpf clean is what I'm using till theres a more stable lestat rom because I tried jp9, which was good, but the bloatware...oh my..
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i guess i'll take your word for it and try out the JPF

i flashed the JPF and so far so good. It's atleast twice as fast as the stock 2.1 i had. Thanks you all for help

one more question, how do i root froyo 2.2 ?
i tried the one click method, after the command running it said everything is fine you're rooted. In recovery mode i tried to install update.zip but it didnt work.
havent see any alternatives for 2.2
can anyone help?