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Hello DHD owners
I've got my DHD today. I'm familiar with Android as I have used Leo and Desire with same OS. Now I really like the screen on DHD! I want to convert movies and other epic movies/clips I have on my PC. Last year I've ripped all my DVDs to my external hardrive.
Which settings and converter program is best?
Size is not a big deal, 32GB here, quality matters
I'm on costum ROM, overclocked to 1,5GHz. Just so make clear I won't have any issues with playback for lager file sizes. I remember I had this on my Leo while I was on WINMO. :/
Thanks for your time
Sent from my Desire HD
Haha same. The HD2 was the only WinMo phone I actually enjoyed using! Hmmmm well you can convert videos in either 800x480 or 720p, as the Desire HD can playback both. However our phone has a screen res of 800x480, so best to go with the native res. Anyways, for high quality, I always use MP4 video format. Codec, Mp4 or h264. Bitrate, CBR. Approx. 1500kbps. Sound, 128-320kbps. You can also crop video to remove black bars, that's your choice. My arsenal of video converters includes: Pinnacle Studio, AVS, and most of the time DVDPean and Xilisoft Video Converter Ultimate. Hope I helped
Note, too high values for audio and video bitrate can cause your device to lag. Keeping your phone OC'd above 1.22ghz while watching a video for 1hr plus may severely overheat your phone.
I found this app. Free Video to Android Converter
It looks a little silly, and nags you everytime you exit, but it makes beautiful movies at native res (800x480) from just about any format (avi,mp4,mkv,mov,wmv). It's also a bit slow, due to only using 1 core (I got 8 on i7).
All converted movies can play in the default player, with hardware decoding of course.
The settings I use is the preset for HTC Desire, Nexus One. Havent had to try any other formats.
Elemental_Fire said:
Haha same. The HD2 was the only WinMo phone I actually enjoyed using! Hmmmm well you can convert videos in either 800x480 or 720p, as the Desire HD can playback both. However our phone has a screen res of 800x480, so best to go with the native res. Anyways, for high quality, I always use MP4 video format. Codec, Mp4 or h264. Bitrate, CBR. Approx. 1500kbps. Sound, 128-320kbps. You can also crop video to remove black bars, that's your choice. My arsenal of video converters includes: Pinnacle Studio, AVS, and most of the time DVDPean and Xilisoft Video Converter Ultimate. Hope I helped
Note, too high values for audio and video bitrate can cause your device to lag. Keeping your phone OC'd above 1.22ghz while watching a video for 1hr plus may severely overheat your phone.
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I play games on my phone @ 1,5Ghz Or, I did on my Leo. It did get pretty hot(!) but never caused a damage. So I think it will be safe Atleast, I hope so
I'll try this settings when I get home. I do a bit video editing, I usually use Sony Vegeas PRO. You can check here, I have only one video on this account, but few more in my other. www.youtube.com/user/ITuNaYI
I'll check if I can do it with Sony Vegas PRO!
leppie said:
I found this app. Free Video to Android Converter
It looks a little silly, and nags you everytime you exit, but it makes beautiful movies at native res (800x480) from just about any format (avi,mp4,mkv,mov,wmv). It's also a bit slow, due to only using 1 core (I got 8 on i7).
All converted movies can play in the default player, with hardware decoding of course.
The settings I use is the preset for HTC Desire, Nexus One. Havent had to try any other formats.
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I'll check this as well when I get home
i think format factory is the way to go, just use native resolution 800 x 480
Looool! Damn I miss GTA IV...so fun when first released, now everyone's on COD
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Looool! Damn I miss GTA IV...so fun when first released, now everyone's on COD
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lol
I still play GTA IV, have done that for 3 years now. And there is a few pro players left. But it is like, everyone knows everybody. I also do have CoD BO, but not fun as GTA IV. Sub for more vids
DHD native player doesn't play flv format. Unconverted 700Mb video doesn't play smoothly on my DHD. It seems to lag badly.
I have no problems playing video's on my DHD.
It's still stock and i use Rockplayer to play video's.
I download a TV-show from the internets and i put it on my phone and it plays almost without lag.
Okay, guys, I'm back now. I had to flash a new ROM as it did not support HQ video playback. Now, I'm on Android Revolution HD, with LeeDroid Kernel. Overclocked to 2Ghz (!) I'm getting exlent performance.
I had totally forgot that I had Any Video Converter Professional, bought years ago. However, I'm now converthing a 1h 16m long Top Gear epsiode, just to give it a try.
Settings are;
Video Codec: mpeg4
800x480
Video Bitrate: 2500 (just testing it out )
Video Framrate: 25 (what do you think? This is default, should I change it?)
Audio Bitrate: 320
Sample Rate: 44100 (?)
EDIT!
I've rolled back to 1,2Ghz, as I did really not see any big improvment @ 2Ghz. Heat vs. performance ratio is not worth it.
However, I'm still converting that video. The problem is that the output file is about 1GB now And the input is 699 MB
It must be the high video bitrate!
UPDATE:
The quality is amazing! The final size was 1,44GB. But it is just perfect! I'm now converting even more
yet another UPDATE:
The avi files I have converted is in amazing quality. Now I'm converthing a Blueray movie. Lets see how this ends up
This is just a video comparation for two roms we have for our Iconia Tab.
NOTE: I'm talk about video decoding, not about any other feature on both roms.
First. Acer Stock based rom 3.1 (it sucks)
Second. Samsung Galaxy Tab based rom 3.1 (Use 1.0.4 update1)
Check it up and if you want better video playing you know galaxy rom its better for this.
You're not saying if that's 1080p high-profile or 720p high-profile. Why does it matter? Well, because 720p high-profile works just fine on the stock ROM and if what you're playing is 720p high-profile then you either have something really screwed up with your tab or you're deliberately trying to "prove" how superior the galaxy ROM is.
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You're not saying if that's 1080p high-profile or 720p high-profile. Why does it matter? Well, because 720p high-profile works just fine on the stock ROM and if what you're playing is 720p high-profile then you either have something really screwed up with your tab or you're deliberately trying to "prove" how superior the galaxy ROM is.
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Obviously its 720p high no chance with 1080 on tegra2. About roms yes TALKING ABOUT VIDEO PLAYING the galaxy rom its the best of Asus,Acer,Motorola,Toshiba,samsung. Tested on every single rom on this forum just flashed and fresh. If I post this if for those who like to watch videos. Its the only thing that I can say Galaxys rom is best.
personally i found galaxy's rom a little laggy in other terms like browsing and stuff but I really like to watch videos on the tab and this rom its my choice for this task.
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Obviously its 720p high no chance with 1080 on tegra2.
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What's the point then? Stock ROM DOES play 720p high-profile just fine.
1080p HP is for tegra3 fyi guys
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What's the point then? Stock ROM DOES play 720p high-profile just fine.
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+1 to Werecatf
I don't really understand. 720p HP works fine on my 100% stock Iconia. I use doubletwist, moboplayer and the default movie player and they all work perfectly, so if you're having issues (especially what I see in that video) I'm going to say it's something related to your tablet or that it was tested using the older 3.0.1 builds.
obviously NOT all videos are the same, there is a video that probe it. I have several videos, that iconia with stock doesn't play smoothly, aleast not in main or high profile.
I dont know why samsung HC play better that videos.
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obviously NOT all videos are the same, there is a video that probe it. I have several videos, that iconia with stock doesn't play smoothly, aleast not in main or high profile.
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Give a link to the said videos then.
For example the Simpsons Movie trailer from http://www.h264info.com/clips.html is 720p Quicktime-profile, ie. non-standard, non-baseline, and works just fine. The Rise of the Silver Surfer video is high-profile 720p and that too plays without an issue, no lag, no nothing.
I've tried MX player, rock player and the default video player to playback my 1080p videos but they all still lag and play slowly. All videos are in mp4. Are there any apps out there that would be able to do this?
Cheers
try out dice player, and overclock, if ur tf is rooted, should be able to play smoothly. anyway I believe there are threads ard discussing this, please go do a search for them.
darkstar09 said:
I've tried MX player, rock player and the default video player to playback my 1080p videos but they all still lag and play slowly. All videos are in mp4. Are there any apps out there that would be able to do this?
Cheers
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Dice player is the best by far IMO, even gets rid of the home and back buttons illuminating.
It plays mkv files and I have files over 3gb which also play without any problems.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.dice&hl=en
Just for fun I searched this forum for "1080p" in the thread title only. This doesn't include all the other random ways someone has asked this exact same question at least 100 other times.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1251784&highlight=1080p
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1051629&highlight=1080p
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1199268&highlight=1080p
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192865&highlight=1080p
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1121428&highlight=1080p
And there are more. I believe on of the rules of xda is to search first and I know it asks if you have searched for existing threads before you start a new one. Granted it searches all of xda to show you threads but the search button is easily found and searches a specific forum.
This is the first rule of xda
1. Search before posting.
I guarantee this has been asked and answered many times this week alone
not sure about 1080p that's going to be hit and miss especially if you have big file sizes.
I'm using revolver 3.2 at 1.3 and can confirm 720p playback with file sizes of 3 gig or so play perfectly with dice player.
This can play back 1080P files just fine....DEPENDING on the bitrate. It's a limitation of Tegra 2. If the bitrate is high, it will have problems. Just like 720P files with really high bitrates have the same limitations.
Honestly, why does it matter? If you're outputting through HDMI to watch things, then I can kinda understand, but the screen itself only supports 720P. Why bother with 1080P?
Just out of curiosity, does overclocking improve video playback?
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This can play back 1080P files just fine....DEPENDING on the bitrate. It's a limitation of Tegra 2. If the bitrate is high, it will have problems. Just like 720P files with really high bitrates have the same limitations.
Honestly, why does it matter? If you're outputting through HDMI to watch things, then I can kinda understand, but the screen itself only supports 720P. Why bother with 1080P?
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Bitrate, uh?
How much is "really high"? 10mbps? 16mbps? and why the lower the resolution the higher the bitrate it can handle, if I got your post right?
Nah. I have a 1080p file, 16mbps. Plays well without overclock. I have another 1080p file, 10mbps, dosen't play well even at 1.6ghz. 720p file, still 10mbps, needs overclock (even 1.2ghz is enough). The difference between them? the kind of encoding. All this with Diceplayer, not the horrid Rockplayer, mind you.
Diceplayer works on most of my DSLR footage 1080 with 40-60datarate
AlexTheStampede said:
Bitrate, uh?
How much is "really high"? 10mbps? 16mbps? and why the lower the resolution the higher the bitrate it can handle, if I got your post right?
Nah. I have a 1080p file, 16mbps. Plays well without overclock. I have another 1080p file, 10mbps, dosen't play well even at 1.6ghz. 720p file, still 10mbps, needs overclock (even 1.2ghz is enough). The difference between them? the kind of encoding. All this with Diceplayer, not the horrid Rockplayer, mind you.
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I'm struggling with 720p encoded @L4. 1.. Mostly all L3. 1 plays nice in diceplayer.
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If I remember correctly, movies encoded in High Profile will not play back well. Main Profile is the best this machine can handle. I believe it's a Tegra 2 limitation in general.
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If I remember correctly, movies encoded in High Profile will not play back well. Main Profile is the best this machine can handle. I believe it's a Tegra 2 limitation in general.
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Well, high L3. 1 is ok with some oc.
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hairyonion said:
not sure about 1080p that's going to be hit and miss especially if you have big file sizes.
I'm using revolver 3.2 at 1.3 and can confirm 720p playback with file sizes of 3 gig or so play perfectly with dice player.
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Let me comment on that:
LOL
Without OC, DICE player (and transformer itself) can only play Level3.1 content and it will slideshow on 99% of internet standard (scene) releases. If you think 'plays perfectly', then you're brain and eyesight damaged.
With OC, you can play play simple 720p content (think WebDL releases) with decent quality (though they will still drop frames in more complex scenes), but more complex releases (think blueray rips) will drop frames on most scenes and slideshow totally on more complex ones.
You would have to be really lucky to find a 1080p movie that will play. Many won't open at all, rest will be dropping frames constantly. When ASUS said that 3.1 update make 1080p playback possible, by playback they meant rendering first frame of the movie.
Dice player is the best
go for it
As mentioned on the other posts about HD playback, the hardware decode of 720p or 1080p H264 with AAC is currently broken in 3.2. Worked fine in 3.1, then got broke. Asus are aware of it and have promised a fix.
If you have such files (e.g. BBC iPlayer HD content) then no player will be able to play them back smoothly as software decode simply can't handle them. Only option is to either transcode or downgrade to HC3.1 to get hardware decode back.
Let's hope the fix is not far off now.
bro just play 720p. trust me you THINK you can tell the difference between 720 and 1080 on a 10' screen but you cant......unless your not human
uploder said:
bro just play 720p. trust me you THINK you can tell the difference between 720 and 1080 on a 10' screen but you cant......unless your not human
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Well, there cannot possibly exist a difference between displaying 720p and 1080p on a 1280x800 screen, since all 1080p content would be scaled down to 720p. Where 1080p would actually matter is if you often connect to a big monitor or HDTV that is capable of 1080p, such as I do on a regular basis for when I want to watch movies without having to boot up my desktop computer. There is definitely a noticeable difference between 720p videos I've converted with Handbrake and the actual 1080p Blu ray movies, but it's not really a big deal for me.
My suggestion for those truly concerned about high quality 1080p playback would be to buy a netbook equipped with a Nvidia ION or comparable video chipset, as I have had no issues playing Blu ray from my own ION-equipped nettop.
yeah my MX player would lag like crazy. Dice is the way to go!
earlyberd said:
Well, there cannot possibly exist a difference between displaying 720p and 1080p on a 1280x800 screen, since all 1080p content would be scaled down to 720p. Where 1080p would actually matter is if you often connect to a big monitor or HDTV that is capable of 1080p, such as I do on a regular basis for when I want to watch movies without having to boot up my desktop computer...........
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ah i see. then YES. there would definitely be a difference. I just assumed you were watching directly on the TF. my mistake
Hello everybody, I was thinking about our HD2's camera module, and I realized that we don't have the same features yet from ICS to JB as in GB.
Let me explain this concept better...
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Pictures:
Well about pictures I think we can do almost they same things on all Android versions, a little exception for Barcode scanners that works at 99.9% and not fully working, but it is negligible
Videos:
Now we can consider two ways...
GB Videos
ICS and JB Videos
- GB Videos:
Ok, GB videos are the perfection, because we can record up to 720p @ 30FPS (maybe more but I never tried)
- ICS and JB Videos:
Well that's the real point of this topic, because I'm really bored to think that if I need to record something special, probly it could be a crappy video file.
Why that? Because on ICS and JB (never tried JB but I know that we have almost the same lib) the recording is up to 800x480 @15FPS
The resolution is not a real problem, because is enought bigger to watch a great video, but about the FPS??
I don't want to sound like a fanatic who just want to know that have the best in his own hands but he don't see any differences between two things....
But when I watch a video recorded @15FPS I see a stuttered video and it's really annoying, because on GB it was fantastic and the camera module works best it can do.
So my question is:
Can we hope in a better camera in the future?
I'm not saying better than GB but just as good...
HD2 is the King and I think that this can be possible sooner or later :fingers-crossed:
Did you manage to record 720p @ 30 fps on an HD2 in Android? What ROM did you use?
I think it was typhoon 7.2cm but maybe with other is possible too
And just once I recorded at 1080p lol but never happened anymore.
I use LGcamera to record because it allows to set different parameters
Thanks for the tip. I can't test right now because I switched to JB this morning, I would waste the rest of the day i I were to switch back to GB and back.
Lgcamera is great on JB though; the stock app can only shoot video at ~4 fps at the moment.
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Thanks for the tip. I can't test right now because I switched to JB this morning, I would waste the rest of the day i I were to switch back to GB and back.
Lgcamera is great on JB though; the stock app can only shoot video at ~4 fps at the moment.
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Really the stock camera on JB is just 4FPS?
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Did you manage to record 720p @ 30 fps on an HD2 in Android? What ROM did you use?
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You can't, that's BS. No ROMs properly support more than 480p @ 30FPS.
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zenida said:
I think it was typhoon 7.2cm but maybe with other is possible too
And just once I recorded at 1080p lol but never happened anymore.
I use LGcamera to record because it allows to set different parameters
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in which ROM did you just do such a thing like that...? :-?
or even 720p recording...? which rom...?
Trust me you can with cm 7.2 typhoon if I remember correctly... I recorded at 720p @30fps with LGcamera pro
Is a big step anyway to get 30fps even if 800*480
so there are roms that can record at 720p?
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Trust me you can with cm 7.2 typhoon if I remember correctly... I recorded at 720p @30fps with LGcamera pro
Is a big step anyway to get 30fps even if 800*480
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I agree with this guy......I just tried typhoon rom and it actually worked...720p @ 30fps video shooting....lgcamera pro....
Hello friends
I used the following method to play 1080p videos without lag.
MKV format and many are not completely supported by Android itself. So when we play high quality Videos it lags.
Step 1. I used the software HANDBRAKE, it is an awesome converter. https://handbrake.fr/downloads.php
Step 2. After installing select the source file to convert which is originally 1080p .
Step 3. Now go to the video tab and select the following settings
Video Codec: H.264
Framerate : Constant ( reliable)
variable
X264 Tune : Fast Decode
H.264 Profile: Main
High Profile
H.264 level : 4.0 or 4.1 (better)
Right hand side : Make the Quality 22
You can change audio codec too according to your wish.
You can experiment which setting works awesome.
I gave the settings i use.
I know this is not anything new. I made this OP for those who don't know.
Feedbacks are always welcome
@@SidDev are u on stock 5.1 coz i have 1080p Mp4 does not play smoothly on Mx player when i try to change it HW it says not supported @nilanko said it'll play in CM 12.1
vinay001 said:
@@SidDev are u on stock 5.1 coz i have 1080p Mp4 does not play smoothly on Mx player when i try to change it HW it says not supported @nilanko said it'll play in CM 12.1
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Changing the video format and/or quality is not a good option. I want all my videos to play without hassle. And I was satisfied with custom ROMs and Kitkat because everything ran just fine. Lollipop's kernel doesn't support 1080p playback, I mean it doesn't support hardware decoding for videos. CPU is weak and can't play 1080p but the GPU can but it doesn't allow us to use the GPU.
CM and all custom ROMs allow everything, no worries with them.
Also, SidDev, basically it's a placebo effect, quality is affected and the original "shine" of the 1080p videos is gone. We just can't notice it but if both original and converted videos are played side by side, you'll notice the quality difference.
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Changing the video format and/or quality is not a good option. I want all my videos to play without hassle. And I was satisfied with custom ROMs and Kitkat because everything ran just fine. Lollipop's kernel doesn't support 1080p playback, I mean it doesn't support hardware decoding for videos. CPU is weak and can't play 1080p but the GPU can but it doesn't allow us to use the GPU.
CM and all custom ROMs allow everything, no worries with them.
Also, SidDev, basically it's a placebo effect, quality is affected and the original "shine" of the 1080p videos is gone. We just can't notice it but if both original and converted videos are played side by side, you'll notice the quality difference.
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okay i''ll try that when i go back to CM with HW encoder.....
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@@SidDev are u on stock 5.1 coz i have 1080p Mp4 does not play smoothly on Mx player when i try to change it HW it says not supported @nilanko said it'll play in CM 12.1
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First of all @nilanko you are completely wrong about saying that lollipop kernel doesn't support 1080p videos, it supports completely and we have enough hardware to support 1080p. Mx player cant support hw on mkv and other. but if you try my way it will work.
I already said the reason for it many formats are not supported and h.264 is best codec.
Try my procedure if it doesnt work let me know,
nilanko said:
Changing the video format and/or quality is not a good option. I want all my videos to play without hassle. And I was satisfied with custom ROMs and Kitkat because everything ran just fine. Lollipop's kernel doesn't support 1080p playback, I mean it doesn't support hardware decoding for videos. CPU is weak and can't play 1080p but the GPU can but it doesn't allow us to use the GPU.
CM and all custom ROMs allow everything, no worries with them.
Also, SidDev, basically it's a placebo effect, quality is affected and the original "shine" of the 1080p videos is gone. We just can't notice it but if both original and converted videos are played side by side, you'll notice the quality difference.
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Hey boy, i am not degrading video resolution here that it will degrade, it wont degrade and instead it will enhance the quality. i guess you speak without knowledge.
I think the main difference is this setting :
X264 Tune : Fast Decode
As per handbrake, this setting should be used with very weak CPU's only (which motoE definitely has).
from h(t)(t)ps: //mattgadient.com /2013/06/12/a-best-settings-guide-for-handbrake-0-9-9/ :
Fast Decode (checkbox)
Usually you do *not* want this checked. A few exceptions:
Check it if you’re trying to play your videos on an older computer that struggles to decode H264.
Check it if playing videos on an older device that struggles to decode H264.
You could optionally check it if uploading to YouTube or other video-sharing sites. It may make it quicker for the site to decode it and put your video up. It’s usually not necessary.
It disables a few H264/x264 optimizations, making it easier to play but at the expense of a larger file (or lower quality if using an average bitrate). Since most recent computers/devices have built-in hardware support for these optimizations, you usually don’t need to bother with it. If you find that playback on your favorite device is choppy, try checking this though.
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So i guesss the learning is that we can use this option, but choose a higher bitrate. The file size would be larger than original, but the quality would be same, and it would play smoothly. Of course, If there is no GPU decoding, then the CPU would be used, which would burn through battery.
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First of all @nilanko you are completely wrong about saying that lollipop kernel doesn't support 1080p videos, it supports completely and we have enough hardware to support 1080p. Mx player cant support hw on mkv and other. but if you try my way it will work.
I already said the reason for it many formats are not supported and h.264 is best codec.
Try my procedure if it doesnt work let me know,
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Condor doesn't support 1080p video playback. It is specified by Motorola if you ever read the specs in detail. Neither the CPU nor the GPU is made for 1080p playback. Although there is enough power at the GPU side but still it can't play very high bitrate and high FPS videos without lag. That's why Motorola has specified it as fullHD unsupported.
OK, I was a bit wrong, I meant to say lollipop kernel doesn't support hardware decoding on many formats/codecs (1080p) but kitkat did. I could play most 1080p vids on kitkat with the stock player itself whereas on stock LP, I can't. With MXPlayer on Kitkat, all 1080p played seamlessly unlike Lollipop. MXPlayer supports everything. It's just the stock LP kernel's limitation. I have experimented a hell lot.
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Hey boy, i am not degrading video resolution here that it will degrade, it wont degrade and instead it will enhance the quality. i guess you speak without knowledge.
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Look Sid, I'm not trying to say your method is bad. But if you look closely at my post, you'll notice that I never ever said you are lowering the resolution. Quality=bitrate. You are lowering down the bitrate (aka quality) (Why did you set it at 22?). You can never "enhance" the quality of an existing video just by increasing the bitrate. It'll do nothing more than increasing the file size. You can only degrade the quality which you are already doing. And yeah, I just noticed that the program itself says "placebo". So it's a proof and its pretty much evident. You can lower down the quality a bit but you'll never notice the degradation of quality that's why they call it "placebo". But if you have tiger eyes like me, you can tell the difference. Lowering the bitrate means lower processing power is required for decoding the video into its components. N hence, you're playing them lag free now incase they used to lag. N yeah, changing codec and formats n all that also gives you the advantage of being able to play them on GPU. But lowering the quality is not a good option. Everything you're doing is okay other than the quality thing.
Besides, this not a feasible solution because not everyone carries a computer with them everywhere and even if they do, they won't go through this hectic process of converting each video, atleast not me. I just want all my fullHD vids to play without hassle and Moto E does that very well. If I'm on custom ROM, all need is MXPLayer. And for stock users, use BSPlayer n choose its own hardware decoder. Simple solution, works flawlessly and better than anything. Then why would I sit and convert videos when BSPlayer can play all my vids rightaway?
@nilanko
easy boy. maybe he doesnt know that much about videos and bitrate
nilanko said:
Condor doesn't support 1080p video playback. It is specified by Motorola if you ever read the specs in detail. Neither the CPU nor the GPU is made for 1080p playback. Although there is enough power at the GPU side but still it can't play very high bitrate and high FPS videos without lag. That's why Motorola has specified it as fullHD unsupported.
OK, I was a bit wrong, I meant to say lollipop kernel doesn't support hardware decoding on many formats/codecs (1080p) but kitkat did. I could play most 1080p vids on kitkat with the stock player itself whereas on stock LP, I can't. With MXPlayer on Kitkat, all 1080p played seamlessly unlike Lollipop. MXPlayer supports everything. It's just the stock LP kernel's limitation. I have experimented a hell lot.
Look Sid, I'm not trying to say your method is bad. But if you look closely at my post, you'll notice that I never ever said you are lowering the resolution. Quality=bitrate. You are lowering down the bitrate (aka quality) (Why did you set it at 22?). You can never "enhance" the quality of an existing video just by increasing the bitrate. It'll do nothing more than increasing the file size. You can only degrade the quality which you are already doing. And yeah, I just noticed that the program itself says "placebo". So it's a proof and its pretty much evident. You can lower down the quality a bit but you'll never notice the degradation of quality that's why they call it "placebo". But if you have tiger eyes like me, you can tell the difference. Lowering the bitrate means lower processing power is required for decoding the video into its components. N hence, you're playing them lag free now incase they used to lag. N yeah, changing codec and formats n all that also gives you the advantage of being able to play them on GPU. But lowering the quality is not a good option. Everything you're doing is okay other than the the quality thing.
Besides, this not a feasible solution because not everyone carries a computer with them everywhere and even if they do, they won't go through this hectic process of converting each video, atleast not me. I just want all my fullHD vids to play without hassle and Moto E does that very well. If I'm on custom ROM, all need is MXPLayer. And for stock users, use BSPLayer n choose its own hardware decoder. Simple solution, works flawlessly and better than anything. Then why would I sit and convert videos when BSPlayer can play all my vids rightaway?
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First of all show me where Motorola posted these.
Nextly its not placebo till 24 level if you increase more than that its placebo. I made it 22 as its best setting. And please keep your tiger eyes with you.
This post is for everyone if you don't know how it works don't spoil my OP by typing extra long non sense. It others try and give feedback. You don't like then stay away. Don't ruin it.
vikphogat said:
@nilanko
easy boy. maybe he doesnt know that much about videos and bitrate
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I know more than you both and first try the thing before commenting.
mayankleoboy1 said:
I think the main difference is this setting :
X264 Tune : Fast Decode
As per handbrake, this setting should be used with very weak CPU's only (which motoE definitely has).
from h(t)(t)ps: //mattgadient.com /2013/06/12/a-best-settings-guide-for-handbrake-0-9-9/ :
So i guesss the learning is that we can use this option, but choose a higher bitrate. The file size would be larger than original, but the quality would be same, and it would play smoothly. Of course, If there is no GPU decoding, then the CPU would be used, which would burn through battery.
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Finally a senseable person is here.
Yes you are right
I had tried different combination before and finslised the best setting
Other thing which makes difference is H.264 and profile
The quality remains like 1080p but runs fasts without a single lag but people here don't understand what they say.
Alright, this is not World War III. So I'm happily shutting my mouth.
@SidDev does this file play Smoothly, I tried in mx player not smooth it lags and can't switch to Hw it says not supported I'm on latest mx player build on Stock 5.1 does it work on Cm 12.1
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@nilanko man u were right i tried 1080p files on CM 12.1 it plays smoothly on default video player man, wow im shocked stock doesn't even play smoothly on Mx player, found that in stock 1080p videos don't preview in gallery btw not happened this issue in Kitkat stock
vinay001 said:
@nilanko man u were right i tried 1080p files on CM 12.1 it plays smoothly on default video player man, wow im shocked stock doesn't even play smoothly on Mx player, found that in stock 1080p videos don't preview in gallery btw not happened this issue in Kitkat stock
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Yup I know, I had experimented a hell lot with all these and yeah they don't even preview! Kitkat was much better in these regards. They don't play smoothly on stock LP because they are decoded by CPU and LP doesn't allow hardware decoding (GPU) of 1080p mp4 videos (don't know about other formats/codecs) out of the box. This is gonna disappoint the general public a lot because they don't really know how to get them working unlike us. This is really a bad step taken by Motorola devs.
See what i did
vinay001 said:
@SidDev does this file play Smoothly, I tried in mx player not smooth it lags and can't switch to Hw it says not supported I'm on latest mx player build on Stock 5.1 does it work on Cm 12.1 View attachment 3382820View attachment 3382821
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See my video which is also 1080p see the difference and codec
when i downloaded it was only 50 mb then i converted using the Hand Brake to my settings in OP.
When i downloaded it originally it was lagging now it is smooth as butter. Please stop blaming Lollipop. Remember that the lollipop we are using is still soak test and it might have problems.
Just do as i said in OP and see the difference.
@SidDev don't knw mate I have converted my file in handbrake it doesn't play, after installing Cm original and converted files play smoothly...
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@SidDev don't knw mate I have converted my file in handbrake it doesn't play, after installing Cm original and converted files play smoothly...
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If you converted from Handbrake then your SW Codec would have said HandBrake
But i see it doesnt say so in your screenshot and your file size is small, you didnt convert it properly
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If you converted from Handbrake then your SW Codec would have said HandBrake
But i see it doesnt say so in your screenshot and your file size is small, you didnt convert it properly
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actually the uploaded screenshot was original file shot,then i converted with your settings honestly it din't play and size was high 88mb file converted to 146mb i use handbrake for ripping dvd's it's good i know.... But the original 1080p files plays smoothly on CM doesn't play on stock i don't know why.....