Hey Everyone,
I got my Noreve case, and one thing I'm quite happy with is how it makes the power and volume buttons much harder to hit accidentally.
This is because it reverses the situation:
On the stock note the buttons are higher than the frame. Therefore when you hold it, it's easy to slide over and accidentally whack the power button. With the case, the case is now 'higher' than the button, and you kind of have to deliberately poke your finger in to trigger.
That being said - I was thinking about the capacitive buttons.
I'm thinking of making some sort of 'O' out of tape (?!?) or something, that covers the capacitive buttons. That way if I want to hit the button, I can poke my finger in and hit it. But if I'm just holding the phone and entering text, I am much less likely to 'rub' the back button and lose whatever I'm doing.
Need to find something that's not too cheesy looking though.
My phone is inside a case so I'm not worried about it being thicker and rubbing off in my pocket.
- Frank
You have expressed what I have been thinking about for years, since my first phone with touch-sensitive buttons ( the HTC Touch HD ).
Now I'm on my third phone with touch sensitive buttons ( Touch HD, Galaxy S, Galaxy Note ), and the same issue still plagues me : every once in a while, I would accidentally brush against the back button and it pops me back to the prev screen, which annoys the hell out of me.
Some nice stick-on buttons which require a firm press to activate would be great.
ChodTheWacko said:
Hey Everyone,
I got my Noreve case, and one thing I'm quite happy with is how it makes the power and volume buttons much harder to hit accidentally.
This is because it reverses the situation:
On the stock note the buttons are higher than the frame. Therefore when you hold it, it's easy to slide over and accidentally whack the power button. With the case, the case is now 'higher' than the button, and you kind of have to deliberately poke your finger in to trigger.
That being said - I was thinking about the capacitive buttons.
I'm thinking of making some sort of 'O' out of tape (?!?) or something, that covers the capacitive buttons. That way if I want to hit the button, I can poke my finger in and hit it. But if I'm just holding the phone and entering text, I am much less likely to 'rub' the back button and lose whatever I'm doing.
Need to find something that's not too cheesy looking though.
My phone is inside a case so I'm not worried about it being thicker and rubbing off in my pocket.
- Frank
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why can't they make those as button instead of touch.Hate those !!!!
I agree, I kept hitting the home button when i try to bring up the list of programs or the other way around.
maybe I'm in the minority here, but I'd MUCH prefer a capacitive button to a physical one, You never have to worry about getting dust in it and it always looks much cleaner (literally and figuratively)
i just bought a used Droid incredible and i have had it for about 3 days and i have noticed something about the power button at the top. the power button doesnt "click" when pushed down like the volume buttons do at the side, it just goes down. its kind of annoying is there a way to fix it or something? are of them like this or is it just mine? if you have a droid incredible can you tell me if the power button clicks like the volume buttons do when you press it or does it stick like mine?
The power button does feel like the clicks in the volume buttons.
whenever my phone comes in contact with a lot of sand, the power button gets mushy like that. yes its supposed to click like the volume buttons. try cleaning it out and see if it helps
what do i do to clean it out? also is there a way i cant just remove the 4 screws on the back open up my phone and clean the power button from there? i think that would be easier because i can make sure there is nothing stuck down there. but the only problem is the VOID warranty sticket is on one of the screws and i dont want my warrenty to be voided because i just bought this phone.
so does anyone know how i should remove that sticker and put it back on the phone without ruining it?
You can use an exacto knife to peel it off, the topic is in here somewhere
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For those of you who own it and use it often, the simple question is whether the placement of the power button gets in your way?
I am right-handed and thus hold tablets in my left hand to poke at it with my right hand. Since I don't own one yet, I haven't had much experience with day to day use and whether 'just grabbing it' often results in hitting the power button accidentally.
As well as whether when you have it in your lap or on something (backpack, lap, blanket, whatever) if the items underneath, assuming they are not perfectly flat, accidentally hit the power button as well.
My hope is that since I don't see many/any posts dedicated to the subject.. that it's good news and the power button isn't that big of a deal.
Thanks. Can't wait for the Wifi X (cause I missed the 25% off chance).
I have never accidentally hit the power button. I'm right handed too.
The biggest issue you may have with the buttons placement is when you have the device on a flat surface, it requires you to lift the top left of the Xoom to hit the button. Personally, this hasn't bothered me at all. I barely just have my device laying flat on a table, usually it rests in my lap or my hands.
But I can almost assure you, problems with accidentally hitting the button probably will not arise.
I do have a gel case on mine though, but i just took it off to test this for you:
Running my finger across the back of the Xoom with decent pressure still won't cause the button to be pushed in when my finger crosses it.
So resting it in your lap wouldn't cause an accidental push.
And if it does for whatever reason, a gel case would do good to counteract that since it makes the button deeper down. but the way its set up, you really should see no problem.
Agreed! I most of the time actually have to search for the button especially when using the trick to turn it upside-down when charging. I think the design is good and I agree that I hardly have it laying flat either since the viewing angles are mediocre
My beef is with the volume buttons. Too tiny. The power button is high enough that it avoids accidental contact with hand during one handed operation.
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My beef is with the volume buttons. Too tiny. The power button is high enough that it avoids accidental contact with hand during one handed operation.
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Agree'd, it took me about this whole first week to get use to these volume buttons. They are kind of hard to press in depending on the angle you're coming at them, and the Case makes it harder because you're unsure when you're trying to hit the buttons it you're actually hitting the buttons because of the huge space between them.
I like it where it is. It's very convenient.
Couldn't be in a better place, very convenient, for me.
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I have never accidentally pressed it, I actually like it's placement quite a bit, it makes sense for me because of where I hold the tablet from.
Elysian893 said:
I have never accidentally pressed it, I actually like it's placement quite a bit, it makes sense for me because of where I hold the tablet from.
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Same for me...right handed.
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Thanks everyone.. the answers are what I expected.. just wanted to confirm. 19 votes at the moment and 100% of them say the power button location is just fine. Thanks again.
1st post here!!! Great forum BTW. No problems at all with hitting the power button by mistake. Xoom is a great device. Needs a little polishing, but all in all a great device!
I have never once hit it by accident. I've also never had any trouble pressing or finding it when I DID want to. After a day of getting used to it, it really is an extremely natural position to have it in.
Yes, the one inconvenience is if it's lying flat on a surface, and you intend on turning the screen on and then leaving it in that position. Really though, when is this ever going happen?
This is Android though. So if the ability to fully map one of the volume buttons (on the upper-left side of the xoom) to turn the screen on/off doesn't already exist (via an app or ROM), you can bet it will soon. I've seen forum threads with titles suggesting such an app already exists, but I've never looked for it myself bc I don't think it's necessary
Add me to the group that loves where its at
+1,
I like the location of the Power button and have never had issue.
That's the only thing I'd change about the hardware. I like the standard '4 softkeys' layout used in many other android phones, a hard button is just harder to use, prone to mechanical failure, and not as elegant.
I think Samsung was trying to keep the same layout as the Galaxy S, but since the rest of the phone is so different, I wish they hadn't.
Well... I'm sure that some day in the near future, there will come a phone that's simply one giant touch screen with like a millimeter bezel. We dont really need the softkeys either.
harder to use? seriously?
and why are soft keys sturdier than hardware keys???
i like having hardware to rely on, i feel more sound knowing i can always long press to get my task manager going, idk if id trust a soft key task manager.. i feel like if my phone is lagging the soft key may as well.. well it may all just be in my head, but i feel better
As nice as my samsung vibrant soft keys were, they lag terrible after the stock fw. I dont mind hardware button and didnt remember samsung galaxy s ever have a problem with the hardware button.
ECrispy said:
That's the only thing I'd change about the hardware. I like the standard '4 softkeys' layout used in many other android phones, a hard button is just harder to use, prone to mechanical failure, and not as elegant.
I think Samsung was trying to keep the same layout as the Galaxy S, but since the rest of the phone is so different, I wish they hadn't.
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Guess it's a preference thing...'cause I actually like the physical button in the middle...
I don't like the button also, samsung tried to follow the iPhone recipe but the phone is just that good that it did not need to. doesn't need a hw button in my opinion.
soraxd said:
i like having hardware to rely on, i feel more sound knowing i can always long press to get my task manager going, idk if id trust a soft key task manager.. i feel like if my phone is lagging the soft key may as well.. well it may all just be in my head, but i feel better
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TBH these days all buttons are "soft keys". They just send a signal to an input controller. If it locks up, tough
The hero had a hard-combination that rebooted it in almost any situation (call + menu + end call), but they are physical buttons...
What does this mean? Well, tbh you can get to your task manager just as easy with a soft-key capacitive button, as if it's locked up, neither will work (presuming we are talking the same definition of locked up being hugely loaded on CPU, where a task needs killed?)
I hated the soft keys on my Nexus One. They seemed very finicky to register and had a couple of hundred millisecond delay before the haptic feedback kicked in as well, which made them very unpleasant to use.
The S II's software keys seem much nicer to use, but as far as I'm concerned I would ideally like all the keys to be hardware, as on the HTC Desire.
i have mixed feelings. the softkeys are better for ergonomics and speed of flow. tapping around the screen quicly to do your daily tasks and then tapping the back or menu button just flows easily, they are all screen taps and only need light pressure. tap-tap-tap-TAP-tap-tap etc
but having to throw in a hardware button into that ruins the muscle motion. tap-tap-tap-tap-tap and press-tap-tap-tap. its way easier to just go with all touch screen taps rather than having to switch it up to a hardware button.
HOWEVER, the physical button makes it better for screen wake up to not have to always hit the power button. and in a "smart" world the physical button would also be a notification light, so that would be the other advantage. but samsung didnt think too hard on this last point...duh.
I agree with the point about wakeup - its easier to hit the big button. I wish phones would let you use any of the hardware buttons to wakeup.
RogerPodacter said:
i have mixed feelings. the softkeys are better for ergonomics and speed of flow. tapping around the screen quicly to do your daily tasks and then tapping the back or menu button just flows easily, they are all screen taps and only need light pressure. tap-tap-tap-TAP-tap-tap etc
but having to throw in a hardware button into that ruins the muscle motion. tap-tap-tap-tap-tap and press-tap-tap-tap. its way easier to just go with all touch screen taps rather than having to switch it up to a hardware button.
HOWEVER, the physical button makes it better for screen wake up to not have to always hit the power button. and in a "smart" world the physical button would also be a notification light, so that would be the other advantage. but samsung didnt think too hard on this last point...duh.
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Agree with every word. Not a deal breaker and I never used the search button except as a long press so I dont miss that. Any hard button can break though which is a downer and this one being the home button it will certainly see plenty of use. Hopefully the button is robust unlike the hardware buttons on my N1.
Must say I wasnt sure coming from a Desire on having 3 buttons and 2 of those being touch...
But i love it and can't get use to using my Desire S now!... love having the 3 buttons with the proper buttom as the home
I think it's a smart decision to have at least one hw key. I hate having to stretch finger all the way to power button to unlock my phone. I personally prefer all hw keys like Xperia's.
Hope expansys ships my today's order in time for weekend
I love having 1 hardware button and 2 soft keys (I'm glad there is no search button, I hate it).
The hardware buttons on my old Desire is what sold it to me over the Nexus. I love the big button that's easy to find in the dark.
I do miss the search button but Samsung have got around that wherein if you hold down menu the search box comes up in apparently that require one.
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I want call and end buttons. BUT
Touch buttons are way easier to use and navigate with while tapping.
Compromise would be really easy to push shallow buttons. Really easy to push. But not too easy.
I like to END my calls with a nice firm push.
I wish it had more hardware buttons!
I personally really hate the lack of an 'end call' hardware button. If you ring someone by accident and the phone crashes and your left on the phone to somone you dont want to be, and your fiddling about trying to pull the battery! Theres loads more examples of needing a hardware 'end call' button. I miss it
Just wondering if anyone has slightly loose buttons. As in, if I tap them lightly I get a tiny metal on plastic sound as if it the button itself wasn't attached to the sensor on the inside.
I'd like to have a perfect device but I'm afraid of RMAing and getting a screen issue or something worse.
Yeah I noticed that too, not really an issue. Also if you press lightly on the power button wothout activating it you can feel it spring back...just an fyi
joshbean39 said:
Yeah I noticed that too, not really an issue. Also if you press lightly on the power button wothout activating it you can feel it spring back...just an fyi
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is the volume button springy as well? just trying to make sure I got a defect-free phone. I haven't had a phone yet with springy side buttons. Seems like they might not last that long??
Not like the power button.
Mine are loose as well but I think it's common across many devices. I've had loose volume and power buttons on my Note 4, Moto X 2014, and even the HTC One M9. I've checked on these occasionally and have been told that a little "play" in the buttons is normal.
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