why can't they make those as button instead of touch.Hate those !!!!
I agree, I kept hitting the home button when i try to bring up the list of programs or the other way around.
maybe I'm in the minority here, but I'd MUCH prefer a capacitive button to a physical one, You never have to worry about getting dust in it and it always looks much cleaner (literally and figuratively)
I read a lot of reviews about the Omnia 7 before buying one (can't have it until Christmas - I'm being good you see!) and a lot of them complained about the power button being in a place you're likely to press during a call.
My question: what happens if you press the power button during a call? On my HD (WinMo 6.5), it just goes in and out of standby but the call stays connected (so you can turn the screen on to use the keypad or switch to loudspeaker, etc). Is it the same with WP7?
My question too cause im looking to buy this phone also
I use the Omnia 7 for about 2 weeks now. Never had the problem of hitting the power button while making calls. But if I do so, nothing happens, it just turns of the screen, the call is still on. Same thing as you put your phone near your head and the sensor turns your screen off.
On other hand i "had" little problems with the back and search buttons. You can easily hit those buttons while doing other stuff. But its not as a big deal as it sounds.
Thanks very much - just what I needed. I was a bit worried as the Engadget review went on and on about the power button being just by your thumb, but it doesn't seem a big deal to me.
Edit: I thanked _ivo_ as well by accident - didn't mean it! No hard feelings
CreepinJesus said:
Thanks very much - just what I needed. I was a bit worried as the Engadget review went on and on about the power button being just by your thumb, but it doesn't seem a big deal to me.
Edit: I thanked _ivo_ as well by accident - didn't mean it! No hard feelings
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This almost put me off too. They must hold their phone in the most unusual way known to man, because my thumb sits nicely between the power & camera buttons...
The power button needs to be firmly pressed to turn off power, it would be very hard to press this unintentionally unless you hold your phone as tight as possible while calling.
That's the only thing I'd change about the hardware. I like the standard '4 softkeys' layout used in many other android phones, a hard button is just harder to use, prone to mechanical failure, and not as elegant.
I think Samsung was trying to keep the same layout as the Galaxy S, but since the rest of the phone is so different, I wish they hadn't.
Well... I'm sure that some day in the near future, there will come a phone that's simply one giant touch screen with like a millimeter bezel. We dont really need the softkeys either.
harder to use? seriously?
and why are soft keys sturdier than hardware keys???
i like having hardware to rely on, i feel more sound knowing i can always long press to get my task manager going, idk if id trust a soft key task manager.. i feel like if my phone is lagging the soft key may as well.. well it may all just be in my head, but i feel better
As nice as my samsung vibrant soft keys were, they lag terrible after the stock fw. I dont mind hardware button and didnt remember samsung galaxy s ever have a problem with the hardware button.
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That's the only thing I'd change about the hardware. I like the standard '4 softkeys' layout used in many other android phones, a hard button is just harder to use, prone to mechanical failure, and not as elegant.
I think Samsung was trying to keep the same layout as the Galaxy S, but since the rest of the phone is so different, I wish they hadn't.
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Guess it's a preference thing...'cause I actually like the physical button in the middle...
I don't like the button also, samsung tried to follow the iPhone recipe but the phone is just that good that it did not need to. doesn't need a hw button in my opinion.
soraxd said:
i like having hardware to rely on, i feel more sound knowing i can always long press to get my task manager going, idk if id trust a soft key task manager.. i feel like if my phone is lagging the soft key may as well.. well it may all just be in my head, but i feel better
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TBH these days all buttons are "soft keys". They just send a signal to an input controller. If it locks up, tough
The hero had a hard-combination that rebooted it in almost any situation (call + menu + end call), but they are physical buttons...
What does this mean? Well, tbh you can get to your task manager just as easy with a soft-key capacitive button, as if it's locked up, neither will work (presuming we are talking the same definition of locked up being hugely loaded on CPU, where a task needs killed?)
I hated the soft keys on my Nexus One. They seemed very finicky to register and had a couple of hundred millisecond delay before the haptic feedback kicked in as well, which made them very unpleasant to use.
The S II's software keys seem much nicer to use, but as far as I'm concerned I would ideally like all the keys to be hardware, as on the HTC Desire.
i have mixed feelings. the softkeys are better for ergonomics and speed of flow. tapping around the screen quicly to do your daily tasks and then tapping the back or menu button just flows easily, they are all screen taps and only need light pressure. tap-tap-tap-TAP-tap-tap etc
but having to throw in a hardware button into that ruins the muscle motion. tap-tap-tap-tap-tap and press-tap-tap-tap. its way easier to just go with all touch screen taps rather than having to switch it up to a hardware button.
HOWEVER, the physical button makes it better for screen wake up to not have to always hit the power button. and in a "smart" world the physical button would also be a notification light, so that would be the other advantage. but samsung didnt think too hard on this last point...duh.
I agree with the point about wakeup - its easier to hit the big button. I wish phones would let you use any of the hardware buttons to wakeup.
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i have mixed feelings. the softkeys are better for ergonomics and speed of flow. tapping around the screen quicly to do your daily tasks and then tapping the back or menu button just flows easily, they are all screen taps and only need light pressure. tap-tap-tap-TAP-tap-tap etc
but having to throw in a hardware button into that ruins the muscle motion. tap-tap-tap-tap-tap and press-tap-tap-tap. its way easier to just go with all touch screen taps rather than having to switch it up to a hardware button.
HOWEVER, the physical button makes it better for screen wake up to not have to always hit the power button. and in a "smart" world the physical button would also be a notification light, so that would be the other advantage. but samsung didnt think too hard on this last point...duh.
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Agree with every word. Not a deal breaker and I never used the search button except as a long press so I dont miss that. Any hard button can break though which is a downer and this one being the home button it will certainly see plenty of use. Hopefully the button is robust unlike the hardware buttons on my N1.
Must say I wasnt sure coming from a Desire on having 3 buttons and 2 of those being touch...
But i love it and can't get use to using my Desire S now!... love having the 3 buttons with the proper buttom as the home
I think it's a smart decision to have at least one hw key. I hate having to stretch finger all the way to power button to unlock my phone. I personally prefer all hw keys like Xperia's.
Hope expansys ships my today's order in time for weekend
I love having 1 hardware button and 2 soft keys (I'm glad there is no search button, I hate it).
The hardware buttons on my old Desire is what sold it to me over the Nexus. I love the big button that's easy to find in the dark.
I do miss the search button but Samsung have got around that wherein if you hold down menu the search box comes up in apparently that require one.
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I want call and end buttons. BUT
Touch buttons are way easier to use and navigate with while tapping.
Compromise would be really easy to push shallow buttons. Really easy to push. But not too easy.
I like to END my calls with a nice firm push.
I wish it had more hardware buttons!
I personally really hate the lack of an 'end call' hardware button. If you ring someone by accident and the phone crashes and your left on the phone to somone you dont want to be, and your fiddling about trying to pull the battery! Theres loads more examples of needing a hardware 'end call' button. I miss it
Hey Everyone,
I got my Noreve case, and one thing I'm quite happy with is how it makes the power and volume buttons much harder to hit accidentally.
This is because it reverses the situation:
On the stock note the buttons are higher than the frame. Therefore when you hold it, it's easy to slide over and accidentally whack the power button. With the case, the case is now 'higher' than the button, and you kind of have to deliberately poke your finger in to trigger.
That being said - I was thinking about the capacitive buttons.
I'm thinking of making some sort of 'O' out of tape (?!?) or something, that covers the capacitive buttons. That way if I want to hit the button, I can poke my finger in and hit it. But if I'm just holding the phone and entering text, I am much less likely to 'rub' the back button and lose whatever I'm doing.
Need to find something that's not too cheesy looking though.
My phone is inside a case so I'm not worried about it being thicker and rubbing off in my pocket.
- Frank
You have expressed what I have been thinking about for years, since my first phone with touch-sensitive buttons ( the HTC Touch HD ).
Now I'm on my third phone with touch sensitive buttons ( Touch HD, Galaxy S, Galaxy Note ), and the same issue still plagues me : every once in a while, I would accidentally brush against the back button and it pops me back to the prev screen, which annoys the hell out of me.
Some nice stick-on buttons which require a firm press to activate would be great.
ChodTheWacko said:
Hey Everyone,
I got my Noreve case, and one thing I'm quite happy with is how it makes the power and volume buttons much harder to hit accidentally.
This is because it reverses the situation:
On the stock note the buttons are higher than the frame. Therefore when you hold it, it's easy to slide over and accidentally whack the power button. With the case, the case is now 'higher' than the button, and you kind of have to deliberately poke your finger in to trigger.
That being said - I was thinking about the capacitive buttons.
I'm thinking of making some sort of 'O' out of tape (?!?) or something, that covers the capacitive buttons. That way if I want to hit the button, I can poke my finger in and hit it. But if I'm just holding the phone and entering text, I am much less likely to 'rub' the back button and lose whatever I'm doing.
Need to find something that's not too cheesy looking though.
My phone is inside a case so I'm not worried about it being thicker and rubbing off in my pocket.
- Frank
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Hey guys,
I just received my Nexus 4 and it seems everything is great. The only thing I am iffy about is the power button on this phone. It always comes on when I press it so it is completely functional, it's just it feels a little stiff.
If I move my finger or thumb to press it on one side or another, it doesn't click. I actually have to press it somewhat in the middle for it to click. Does anybody else have this issue? The power button works fine but it just feels funny I guess.
If anybody has a quick answer that would be great to prevent myself from doing a OCD-SELL on Kijiji
i have the same issue. But I think this is a feature, not a bug It prevents the phone from getting unlocked in your pocket.
Metsuna said:
Hey guys,
I just received my Nexus 4 and it seems everything is great. The only thing I am iffy about is the power button on this phone. It always comes on when I press it so it is completely functional, it's just it feels a little stiff.
If I move my finger or thumb to press it on one side or another, it doesn't click. I actually have to press it somewhat in the middle for it to click. Does anybody else have this issue? The power button works fine but it just feels funny I guess.
If anybody has a quick answer that would be great to prevent myself from doing a OCD-SELL on Kijiji
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I have a suggestion: Try sliding the power button from the top to the bottom. I've found pressing it directly is difficult but sliding it is much easier. I'm also holding it with my left hand so I'm using my index finger.
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i have the same issue. But I think this is a feature, not a bug It prevents the phone from getting unlocked in your pocket.
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hahaha yeah right. this is what lg tells itself to sleep better at night. : P
So...what you guys are saying. It's not enough to go crazy over right? Cause I have no yellow tint and my battery seems fine
Pretty sure meant to be like that i naturally press middle now. Didn't at first though
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