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Discussion thread: "Paid apps" are here!!!

I know the android market will start charging next week and I understand some apps have an expiration date on them and eventually they will expire. So this may not work for those apps and I could be totally wrong in my theory.
I'm going to try not updating my apps for a month or so because I fear some of the apps that were meant to be free the developer may decide to start charging and with an update put an expiration date on that app.
I know one app did this already. I forgot the name but it had the planet saturn as the icon and it was meant to be free but the developer decided to start charging and make it a demo version with an update. He got flamed in the comments and eventually took his app down.
Call me cheap but about 90% of the apps I have are not worth paying for but they are nice to have.
PLEASE POST ANY APPS THAT HAS STARTED CHARGING WITH AN UPDATE OR HAS TURNED INTO A TRIAL VERSION WITH AN UPDATE.
NOTE: I HAVE NOT TRIED SOME OF THESE APPS TO CONFIRM THE CHANGE. I AM SIMPLY GOING BASED OFF OF THE POSTS. PLEASE NOTIFY OF CORRECTIONS.
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Force Ring (If you still have it keep it. Is not look for stats555's sig.)
SMS Commander (The original app is dead. The developer has put the new app in the market. Dont uninstall the original.)
Park Mark (It was originally updated to a demo and now the words demo have been removed from the description. I don't know if it is a demo or not anymore. Keep pre demo.)
Dog Catcher Beta (If you downloaded it before you had to pay for it... there is no prompt to pay for it yet.)
World Clock (is now a trial version. Keep original don't update)
Advanced Task Manager (Is now gone from the market. You have to pay for the new version.)
Quickoffice (Also gone from the market.)
1 click direction (Is now a paid app. I don't think the new app has any changes except now its $2.99)

force ring is what you lost
i lost it too
good idea
keep us updated

drewfinkel said:
force ring is what you lost
i lost it too
good idea
keep us updated
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Ahh yes. It let you raise and lower your phone volume via sms. Kind of like sms commander.
Will do.

As soon as someone upgrades an app that adds an expiration date, they should mention it here.
Some of us don't mind having an older version for free
Depending on the app though. Some i'd pay for.

topdnbass said:
As soon as someone upgrades an app that adds an expiration date, they should mention it here.
Some of us don't mind having an older version for free
Depending on the app though. Some i'd pay for.
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Thats a good Idea and Ill try to keep the list updated on the original post. Any app that starts charging or any app that turns in to a trial version with an update we should include.

drewfinkel said:
force ring is what you lost
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I will keep force ring in my signature, will not update it as its very popular so if you need it grab it anytime.

stats555 said:
I will keep force ring in my signature, will not update it as its very popular so if you need it grab it anytime.
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Thanks for that.

If you have and use the app, it's obviously worth paying for.
The question is, how much is it worth If it's something valuable enough to keep on your phone, I'd think 99 cents is more than fair.

ParkMark & Geodroid
When I was browsing in the Market 12 hours ago I saw 'ParkMark Demo' instead of 'ParkMark'. I read the description and there was told about trail expires on march, 1st. When I read the comments the users were disgusted about paying for such an app.
Now I looked at ParkMark again and its name was switched back to 'ParkMark' and there isn't mentioned anything about "trial" in the description.
So it could be they reconisdered and kept ParkMark free or they hided every information about trial so everybody makes the (hidden trial-) update.
EDIT:
Found this at the developer homepage:
ParkMark (and all applications for the G1) is currently free. The update will be a low cost app once the market gets going and a demo version will be available.
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This is also the developer of the Geodroid -App, which also turned to demo.

MacFloid said:
When I was browsing in the Market 12 hours ago I saw 'ParkMark Demo' instead of 'ParkMark'. I read the description and there was told about trail expires on feb, 31st or march, 31st. When I read the comments the users were disgusted about paying for such an app.
Now I looked at ParkMark again and its name was switched back to 'ParkMark' and there isn't mentioned anything about "trial" in the description.
So it could be they reconisdered and kept ParkMark free or they hided every information about trial so everybody makes the (hidden trial-) update.
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Thats what I was worried about with the apps.

So if we have apps that are currently free&they add a fee to them in the future wed be charged for them even though when we downloaded them ,they were free?

World Clock
World Clock by Thinlet is now a trial.
It was free w/ over 10k downloads but then he/she/they had an update w/o notice of what's changed & that's when people started noticing it was now trial. Weak.

I accidently updated parkmark, indeed it's name on the phone is now ParkMark Demo...kind of deceptive imo :/

It's Park Mark free for me...
Does anyone have the old APK file?

cmavr8, yup, another updated version! seems the maker of parkmark watches out little forum They changed the app description to "This version free forever" "full paid version coming April 1st". So i think we're good for now.

What is the method of extracting the APK file from my phone for an application that i want to save?

As a user, I definitely understand the desire to have all apps be free. But I also know that in order for apps to continue to be developed and improved, there needs to be some sort of motivation to do so. A couple dollars or less is certainly reasonable for good quality apps. As a developer, I can tell you that it takes a lot of time and energy to produce a quality app and there comes a time when it is simply not worth it without some sort of compensation. Remember, developers have lives, families, etc... they don't exist to simply serve the user. That being said, I think that all apps that are already available for free (and are not demo versions) should remain free, and I think most will. At least it's not the Apple App Store, I mean come on all those folks paying for fart machines and other inane apps. I think it's good the Android Market has had some time to get some of those types of apps out of the way for free.
Feel free to download my app, as I will not be charging for it unless I do some major overhaul of new features, which would require me to charge. I don't see that happening, however. Not that I think there is a huge market for my app as it is a specialized tool for a certain industry...

I would hope that a 'new' version is created for the pay version, instead of forcing a paid upgrade. That seems like the solution that would encourage payment for additional "new and improved" features.

Of course. Besides, the terms of the Market require that to be the case.

Hey does anyone have the maverick.apk? I accidentally deleted it from my sd & its not in the market anymore. I looked in stats sig but I couldn't find it there either.

How much do you spend on apps

Just curious....how much are you spending on apps a month, and what is it that motivates you to buy?
I dont buy many apps, but having a demo version of a app usually causes me to want the full app after using the demo... if it meets my needs. I recently bought better keyboard for $4 and KEPT it, but removed swiftkey and got a refund..
And I already know you can get a refund the first 24hrs ... I am asking people who BUY AND KEEP apps, not those who RENT THEM for 24 hours..
Aloha from beautiful Hawaii

I have bought more than a few. My only that I would call expensive purchases was sling player and logmein ($30) I had more than a few palm and window mobile devices, and I can't remember all the $15-30 apps I bought, alot though. the apps are so cheap, it's baffling when I see ppl complaining about buying android apps. A dollar or two mostly. Ringo pro cost me $24 on my treo running palm os, and on my touch pro, hit me for 4 bucks for the same app on android.

So far I've spent about $ 35 in apps since I had my G1. Roughly about 15 apps, most of then having to do with root stuff, like set cpu, cache cleaner, titanium backup. The others are a couple of games, a couple of task killers that I no longer use and a couple of utilities type apps.

nmw407 said:
So far I've spent about $ 35 in apps since I had my G1. Roughly about 15 apps, most of then having to do with root stuff, like set cpu, cache cleaner, titanium backup. The others are a couple of games, a couple of task killers that I no longer use and a couple of utilities type apps.
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Haha i get my paid apps for free. almost any

topgun303 said:
Haha i get my paid apps for free. almost any
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I do as well but if there is an application I really like, I will go back and pay for it. If developers don't get paid for their efforts, they will stop developing.

Akulamenuri said:
I do as well but if there is an application I really like, I will go back and pay for it. If developers don't get paid for their efforts, they will stop developing.
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True, I am a college student and i am broke all the time. Buying engineering books is not cheap. Mostly i try to get free version.

topgun303 said:
True, I am a college student and i am broke all the time. Buying engineering books is not cheap. Mostly i try to get free version.
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90% of apps cost less that 5 bucks, support the devs. If there was no way to get them free, u would pay the few dollars

I've spent about $20 on 10 or so paid apps so far. Tons more free ones.

topgun303 said:
Haha i get my paid apps for free. almost any
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Are you confessing that you STEAL FROM DEVELOPERS by downloading hacked versions of apps?

surfnhawaii808 said:
Are you confessing that you STEAL FROM DEVELOPERS by downloading hacked versions of apps?
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All i am saying is that i like to try the app out and if i like it then i will buy it. And you cant get updates for hacked apps. So its useless to the user. Thats my opinion. We all should support are developers. They are the reason we all are using these smart phones.

I like testing out an app first to see if I like it enough to want to buy it. Case in point widgetlocker. I played with the full version that I got of the internet, really liked it, uninstalled the pirated version and went back and bought the legit copy from the market. That way I know I'll get the upgrades as time goes by too. Other ones I paid and didn't use anymore... Well, if I need them again, they'll be there.
The majority if the apps are under $ 5 anyway. That's cheaper than getting lunch nowadays.

the only one I have actually bought from the market was Beautiful Widgets, but I have "bought" quite a few apps not sure on the amount because it depends on how much I use/need and app. I have gotten a bunch for free from the developers here on xda like SetCPU, ROM Manager ect however I have ended up donating to the dev of all the free ones I have got here.

I bought about $50 worth of apps and barely use any. Mostly use free ones. I stay away from anything that cost more then ten bucks though, I'm not that rich
I did buy at least 5 apps only to support the des (Stericson,Anderwebs, others) but I don't even use those.
Sent from MT4G.

I find buying the apps to be most rewarding. Not only do you get the updates and you're supporting the devs but with this "goggle account" thing (I'm new to android phones)
I find that even after a wipe and clean install of a new rom if I give the phone a few minutes all the apps I bought and d/led off the market reinstall themselves.
Well..at least that's what I've noticed.

Got my Xoom

Yay for my local Verizon dealer, who made good on his promise and sold me 2 Xooms today.
Initial impressions are very good... but with only 7 apps in the Android Market for tablets, the community clearly has a long way to go.
Here's your fun fact so far: there's an LED near the Verizon logo that blinks when you get a notification.

Now, if you wouldnt mind... could you not play with it at all for the next 12 hours and just have it run a video loop while connected to 3g and wifi to guage the battery?
Come on, think of the service that you'll be providing. We'd totally owe you one.

Are you able to download normal apps not made for tablets?
Or are you limited to only applications for tablets in the Market?

alee said:
Yay for my local Verizon dealer, who made good on his promise and sold me 2 Xooms today.
Initial impressions are very good... but with only 7 apps in the Android Market for tablets, the community clearly has a long way to go.
Here's your fun fact so far: there's an LED near the Verizon logo that blinks when you get a notification.
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Did you confirm what we heard that if you purchase through a VZ store no activation is required?

BBalz said:
Are you able to download normal apps not made for tablets?
Or are you limited to only applications for tablets in the Market?
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For now, you can sideload apps via the browser, but you need to go to Settings > Applications and check off Unknown sources.
For whatever reason, I can see some, but not all the Market apps. Compatibility flag maybe? Went looking for Beejive and it didn't show up. Might need to be updated to use the Honeycomb APIs?

I notice the apple bluetooth keyboard... does that work with it?
I only ask because I have one and sometimes I know apple products can be sort of a b#$^@ when it comes to connecting to off-apple brand items.

TheZuneLune said:
Did you confirm what we heard that if you purchase through a VZ store no activation is required?
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I was getting contracts for both, so I didn't ask.
Note: neither of my devices are currently activated -- Verizon's systems apparently won't activate any Xooms just yet, so mine will be turned on tomorrow morning. For now it's Wi-Fi, and there was no problem getting it to work without the activation.

It hasn't been released yet, maybe Google has some tweaking to do in their systems overnight before apps show up. 7 apps doesn't sound right..

BBalz said:
I notice the apple bluetooth keyboard... does that work with it?
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Just tried it. Pairs and works fine. When you pair, it discovers the keyboard, and asks you to type a 4 digit code + enter on the Apple keyboard. Then all systems go.

parrotheadmjb said:
It hasn't been released yet, maybe Google has some tweaking to do in their systems overnight before apps show up. 7 apps doesn't sound right..
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Could be. Note that the app store did update itself upon first launch.

Ya feel like prying the back off of one of them and checking on the true size of the battery? Does it say what the size is on the box by chance?

muyoso said:
Ya feel like prying the back off of one of them and checking on the true size of the battery? Does it say what the size is on the box by chance?
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+1
Thanks

If you go to the new Android Market on PC, you can find a NYTimes Android Application for Tablets. Can you possibly have that downloaded to your Xoom and give it a try?
Here is a link:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nytimes.android.tablet&feature=search_result
+4 on the battery requests

Alee!
Open up the Xoom and tell us what mAh battery size is inside that sucker? We need to put something to rest.. claim is that it's 3250mAh.. we're hoping this is a mistake and it's actually much larger.

Anyone know how to get to the battery? I see 2 screws at the bottom, but I can't mess with those right now as I'm syncing over a ton of stuff to the tablet.

alee said:
Anyone know how to get to the battery? I see 2 screws at the bottom, but I can't mess with those right now as I'm syncing over a ton of stuff to the tablet.
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Yeah I saw somewhere, cannot remember where, but you have to remove some screws.

Surprised that Engadget or another site hasn't tore the Xoom apart to see all the bits and pieces and see what everything is already.
Sort of odd. Then again those no real reviews from sites either... just a wirefly guy unboxing it and talking too much about things he seems to know little about.

Question; How much did you spend out of the door total ($960-$970)?

All the major sites have posted their reviews and all concur that battery life is awesome. So who cares about the size as long as you get the life?
Its all about the power consumption and not about the battery size
Sent from my TMO custom Tab

aodpoe said:
Question; How much did you spend out of the door total ($960-$970)?
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$800 each + tax. So I didn't get the Verizon price for contract but totally worth it to get it a day early.

I really can't grasp the new market

I might make myself look really stupid here but I struggle to use the new market
Al i can seem to get to is either
Top paid apps
Top free apps
Trending apps
Editors choice
Where's the tab to just take to the newest apps?! I don't want to see the same apps all the time!
On my Dell Streak i can just hit the newest apps tab and i get the latest additions to the market......

tablet market sucks
Use the Google market from web page its alot better.you might also like amazon android app store. Its at amazon.com
Hope this helps

use the web interface
Enough said.

erica_renee said:
Use the Google market from web page its alot better.you might also like amazon android app store. Its at amazon.com
Hope this helps
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Unfortunately Amazon App Store is only for US residents.

WereCatf said:
Unfortunately Amazon App Store is only for US residents.
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You can get around that quite easy and get the free app of the day atleast! Glad I didnt miss out on all the popcap daily freebies!

well I've been trying to use the android web market page but it seems whatever I select (and pay for!) They state they will be downloaded to my tablet shortly.......
They never arrive, I then look in the normal market to get my purchase and the don't appear. I've had about 5 apps like that.

Market has been replaced by Play Shop

Today i got the Play Shop update to my note. Looks like google replaced the Android Market with the Play Shop.

yes,
may be music, book,video update won't available in india, but you can update manually here is detail
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1534703

Yes but...
They haven't fixed the after 20 pages of apps in My Library bug.
(It goes back to the beginning). In my case, it gets to the letter 'I' before it goes back to 'A'. Thus, I have no visibility to any apps I have installed (and blown away with frequent ROMs) in the past or on other devices.
Furthermore, I can no longer see my order history or my devices.
The order history was bugged anyways as I wasn't even able to see all the Apps I had purchased.
You would think that a company like Google wouldn't have so many outstanding bugs that deal with downloaded/purchased products for such a long time...

jvenkatreddy said:
Today i got the Play Shop update to my note. Looks like google replaced the Android Market with the Play Shop.
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Are u in india, using indian note model with indian gmail account?
I din get my market update yet.

I just got the update too. Plus there is a bunch of 49p (I am in the UK) apps. They got me to spend some money.

FranchiseJuan said:
I just got the update too. Plus there is a bunch of 49p (I am in the UK) apps. They got me to spend some money.
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Yeah I spent a few quid. World of goo at 49p is too good to pass up.
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How is this update being rolled out? I got it on my Galaxy Tab already, but my note has not gotten it yet.

Flaco05 said:
How is this update being rolled out? I got it on my Galaxy Tab already, but my note has not gotten it yet.
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what i did was, Settings - Apps - Manage
then find for Market, you clear the data...and clear cache (if available)...then you relaunch the market..it will update it for you...thats wat i do yesterday

Pointless, unimaginative rebranding. I expected more from them.

knightnz said:
Pointless, unimaginative rebranding. I expected more from them.
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i somewhat agree with you on this....theres not much different from the normal market...

As a user, it looks kind of pointless until you realize that the name Google is now prominent. I bet you many people did not necessarily think of Google when they visited the old Android Market.

lucosea said:
what i did was, Settings - Apps - Manage
then find for Market, you clear the data...and clear cache (if available)...then you relaunch the market..it will update it for you...thats wat i do yesterday
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Nah ! Didn't update here