Just a quick psa for those who were asking a lot about the ota eh03 vs the leak.
kwinders was kind enough to do a system pull of the ota for me to compare, and the roms are 99% percent identical down to the build.props being the same.
only differences are a slightly newer vz navigator in the ota vs leak, and a newer adobe flash installer (still older than what is current in market).
aside from a few more bins in the odin that wouldnt be present in an ota pull afaik (chmod, chown) thats it.
so if you have to get back to stock to return to vzw for some reason, the odin is gold...and the roms based off the odin are the same as if we built off the ota
that is all
Thanks Nitsuj17!
Can't wait for EH03 Resurrection!
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Thanks good to know!
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Thanks good to know!
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no problem
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The Devs are stating that the leaked JI6 is identical to the OTA JI6,, but my GPS only works with the OTA JI6, if I flash or Odin the leaked JI6 my GPS stops working....
Am I crazy?
Market is different too
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The Devs are stating that the leaked JI6 is identical to the OTA JI6,, but my GPS only works with the OTA JI6, if I flash or Odin the leaked JI6 my GPS stops working....
Am I crazy?
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I definitely observed some differences in Market..
I updated through Kies Mini and got the market app that had update all button on it. The ODIN JI6 update didnt give me that.
eortizr said:
The Devs are stating that the leaked JI6 is identical to the OTA JI6,, but my GPS only works with the OTA JI6, if I flash or Odin the leaked JI6 my GPS stops working....
Am I crazy?
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So if the OTA works why do you care about the ODIN version?
Well I tried both and the OTA seems to be more stable so far. The Odin JI6 was not working all that good. I was getting a lot of lag and just was not functioning correctly.
There are Market apps missing on both.
I would recommend using Kies to get the OTA. Not odin.
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Which devs are saying this? The leaked JI6 that came out before is NOT the same as the OTA. If you are talking about the Official JI6 that we are flashing via Odin and Kies, then yes, they are the same.
To clarify, when you say "Leaked JI6", this refers to the version of JI6 that was discovered before we even knew there was going to be an OTA update. After they found out about the OTA and it started rolling out, they found the final version of JI6 and made it available to flash.
So please be more specific in which you are referring to.
The actual old leaked JI6 or the JI6 people are flashing via Odin and Kies.
I updated through the odin official file first then went back to stock JFD and flashed through kies. I don't have the new market from the kies version and still can't see all the apps. They are both the same file according to the build.prop anyway.
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I updated through the odin official file first then went back to stock JFD and flashed through kies. I don't have the new market from the kies version and still can't see all the apps. They are both the same file according to the build.prop anyway.
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They probably got the new market before they realized the difference.
Doesn't Kies wipe data? The Odin update doesn't do that.
By "wiping data" what do you mean? You lose all of you videos, photos, settings, etc.?
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They probably got the new market before they realized the difference.
Doesn't Kies wipe data? The Odin update doesn't do that.
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I was thinking the same about the market.
I honestly can't remember if odin wipes data or not since I've flashed so many times plus when I flash I always start out fresh anyway.
You will lose your settings and apps. Photos and videos no since they are stored on the internal SD card. Basically anything that is not on the internal SD card will get erased which is which people use Titan to backup all their apps before they flash a new rom. It's easy to restore all your important apps to their previous state this way.
I flashed the Official JI6 OTA with Odin and have had no issues at all. It didn't wipe anything either.
i flashed the leaked JI6 with odin and then flashed the OTA with odin when that came out. GPS was improved over JFD with leaked, but not great. with the OTA version, it's significantly better for me. haven't noticed many other differences, except battery readings are a little odd (reads 100% when connected to charger -- after charging for sometime -- but drops to 75% or so within minutes of disconnecting. weird. same issue with leaked version).
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Which devs are saying this? The leaked JI6 that came out before is NOT the same as the OTA. If you are talking about the Official JI6 that we are flashing via Odin and Kies, then yes, they are the same.
To clarify, when you say "Leaked JI6", this refers to the version of JI6 that was discovered before we even knew there was going to be an OTA update. After they found out about the OTA and it started rolling out, they found the final version of JI6 and made it available to flash.
So please be more specific in which you are referring to.
The actual old leaked JI6 or the JI6 people are flashing via Odin and Kies.
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I'm talking about the JI6 that was leaked about 2 weeks before the official OTA... Bionix and Viral are stating that they are identical
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I'm talking about the JI6 that was leaked about 2 weeks before the official OTA... Bionix and Viral are stating that they are identical
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If sombionix and viralblack say it is so, I'd say it's 99.999999999 so.
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If sombionix and viralblack say it is so, I'd say it's 99.999999999 so.
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That only problem with that statement is that it is incorrect. The build.prop of the OTA dates 09/28/10 while the leak has a date two weeks prior. So, even if something very minor was changed, they are not the same.
I flashed the official release via Odin, And when I connect to KM, It verifies my model number and phone number and shows that I am running latest version. I can say That these two are the same.
Its my understandig that if you root your phone but don't flash a rom you will still be alerted when your carrier pushes out ota updates. Now my question is if I install a different kernel such as chevy's or something to allow me to overclock my dx will I still be alerted for carrier ota updates?
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Its my understandig that if you root your phone but don't flash a rom you will still be alerted when your carrier pushes out ota updates. Now my question is if I install a different kernel such as chevy's or something to allow me to overclock my dx will I still be alerted for carrier ota updates?
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You mean ROM not Kernel. (Kernel opens up a great deal of wounds, )
But the answer is no, you will not be able to update ota unless you flash back to stock ota sbf.
Just to add to what Steven58 said,
While it is true that loading a custom ROM will prevent you from receiving OTA updates, that's not necessarily a bad thing.
The dev's for those ROMs generally do a great job of keeping up with the latest /system files and updating their builds as necessary. Most likely any given custom ROM will have better functionality and stability than the stock Moto one anyway.
There are always some caveats and variables based on your own desires, but if the Stock Moto was done right, we wouldn't see so many popular ROM alternatives.
There will be cases when a new kernel (such as is the case with the most recent OTA .340) is released that you will need to either get the OTA, or hope some one releases an SBF. In those rare cases, you should be able to flash back to stock (with whatever the current system release is), do the update (which would update kernel, and possible radio, etc) and then proceed back to using your favorite ROM (assuming it's been updated to that version).
Clear as Mud?
Yup I understand it now. Thanks for the help and all the replies
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I'm from the UK and have the UK version of the Note. It seems that pretty much everywhere else on the planet are getting firmware updates and we are not. Since the release of the Note, I've read of other countries getting updates yet there has only been one here since release. I'm currently KK5 (or it could be KKA, not sure which number)
I'm just wondering why others get updates as we don't.
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different countries always get differne updates, every company works that way with regards to android updates
You have the latest update for our country if you're on kka if u feel like ur missing out you could always grab a stock rom and flash that.. latest is LA6 or try out one of the custom roms available
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Time to bite the bullet! I was wondering when we'd get an official update too, as I didn't want to go down the same road as I did with the HD2 and flash a new rom every other day trying to find a good one. So I rooted the stock rom (same as yours), flashed the Samsung LA6 rom over it, then flashed the Abyss kernal. Much better now! Probably won't flash a new rom now until ICS is officially out.
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Time to bite the bullet! I was wondering when we'd get an official update too, as I didn't want to go down the same road as I did with the HD2 and flash a new rom every other day trying to find a good one. So I rooted the stock rom (same as yours), flashed the Samsung LA6 rom over it, then flashed the Abyss kernal. Much better now! Probably won't flash a new rom now until ICS is officially out.
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I'm with you on that.
I have the abyss kernel with KKA. Do you find much improvement with LA6? I have read about a few issues.
I have an SGH-I337 running UCUAMDB that I've rooted, TWRP'd, etc. via CASUAL 527b. Are there any downsides to upgrading to whatever the current AT&T ROM version is? I just got notified of a new version which I assume fixes the package signing vulnerability that affects all versions of Android 1.6+, which would be a good thing.
Thank you in advance to those of you who weigh in.
You'd lose your root until an exploit is released for the current update.
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Fat Rat Bastard said:
I have an SGH-I337 running UCUAMDB that I've rooted, TWRP'd, etc. via CASUAL 527b. Are there any downsides to upgrading to whatever the current AT&T ROM version is? I just got notified of a new version which I assume fixes the package signing vulnerability that affects all versions of Android 1.6+, which would be a good thing.
Thank you in advance to those of you who weigh in.
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You'd lose your root until an exploit is released for the current update.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2357272
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Both posts are correct. You will lose TWRP, and Root.
If you want you can flash just the modem. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43432287#post43432287
If you want the newest firmware, I highly recommend running GoldenEye Rom. It is based on the International version of the rom they just released for the US variants basically. So you will get the new features and fixes, and still be rooted. (they had it 1-2 weeks ago for other versions). You can flash/try GoldenEye and flash the modem in the link and be all up to date and rooted on stock based firmware.
WoodburyMan said:
Both posts are correct. You will lose TWRP, and Root.
If you want you can flash just the modem. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43432287#post43432287
If you want the newest firmware, I highly recommend running GoldenEye Rom. It is based on the International version of the rom they just released for the US variants basically. So you will get the new features and fixes, and still be rooted. (they had it 1-2 weeks ago for other versions). You can flash/try GoldenEye and flash the modem in the link and be all up to date and rooted on stock based firmware.
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I'm sure there is pros & cons to go back to the stone age but I can't see it!
YOU can have the best of both worlds by...
Rooting
getting a good stable rom.. (many to choose from)
installing latest TWRP or what ever is your choice for recoveries
latest kernel (remember for your phone model)
latest modem...
and remember thats not taking any OTA's
or you could let the carriers control your life.. Heh, heh..
its all your choice!
Is this possible? I'm rooted with a locked bootloader. I Uninstaller alot of apps that came with it. I heard it will cause the Ota to fail
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Is this possible? I'm rooted with a locked bootloader. I Uninstaller alot of apps that came with it. I heard it will cause the Ota to fail
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Yes
See my button for a link to all stock apps
deathwithafi said:
Is this possible? I'm rooted with a locked bootloader. I Uninstaller alot of apps that came with it. I heard it will cause the Ota to fail
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Just wait until the devs come out with a flashable zip or the FXZ is posted. Also, if you want to keep root, I wouldn't plan on updating.
Also worth noting - a factory reset won't change anything anyways.
You can RSD back to stock - but remember like RickRong said - the KK update probably won't be rooted.
I do think that an older msm8960 on kk, unrooted may run intolerably slow. While the X unrooted is OK.
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I do think that an older msm8960 on kk, unrooted may run intolerably slow. While the X unrooted is OK.
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It's been my understanding that kk uses less resources and is more compatible with older hardware than jb. I'm expecting it to run better then the stock 4.1.2 rom we've got now.
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My junky old infuse runs kitkat better than jb. 1.4 GHz single core 512mb
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I'm sure I probably don't need to ask this, BUT, when Verizon begins rolling this out, would someone please post their success and results? I'm running Carbon today... not sure what it will be tomorrow. I had OSE installed and was overall satisfied, but the navigation buttons were't working and sometimes the keyboard would refuse to pop up, so that was a no-go.
Thank you.