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Being a previous samsung owner (behold 2) I don't think that the first galaxy s line will get it. Why??? Cause samsung is already in the process of making a second galaxy s line. Just like in the armed forces how they send out the army first(vibrant, epic, captivate) then the navy, then air forces. Well that's what samsung is doing. If you think I'm just spitting out bull check out the new galaxy s phone sprint is about to get. It is keyboard less and is coming out months after the epic 4g. Why would they need 2 galaxy s phones when they already have 1 with a keyboard and an evo???
I truly think we are gonna get froyo in october but nothing after that. I'm not mad though I'm just gonna get a g2 but this is crazy how phone companies operate these days all due to android fragmentation.
Link to new galaxy s for sprint
http://phandroid.com/2010/09/30/samsung-transform-kyocera-zio-headed-to-sprint/
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Meh, the dev scene should be fully up and running by that point. Personally at that point I couldn't care less if Samsung doesn't update.
They've already proven that they don't give a **** about their appearance in the world (really, you ship a broken phone to four carriers in the US and to ~30 other countries around the world and expect anyone to take you seriously), so let them continue to shoot themselves in the foot.
Just my $.02
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Meh, the dev scene should be fully up and running by that point. Personally at that point I couldn't care less if Samsung doesn't update.
They've already proven that they don't give a **** about their appearance in the world (really, you ship a broken phone to four carriers in the US and to ~30 other countries around the world and expect anyone to take you seriously), so let them continue to shoot themselves in the foot.
Just my $.02
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yeah, I've pretty much bought my last Samsung product. With ViewSonic entering the TV market and LG having as good a picture quality as Samsung already I don't need them for that, and as for phones/tablets? Well fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on ME.
Im calling tmobile and emailing executive support to get a refund or a replacement with a g2
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Im calling tmobile and emailing executive support to get a refund or a replacement with a g2
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Good for you. And again, like everyone else, thank you so much for sharing your personal shopping preferences with us. Without well thought out, logical, factual, and rational statements such as yours the world would be a much worse place to live in. I am sure I speak for everyone here in thanking you for letting us know where you stand and that your presence will truly be missed in the Vibrant community.
We hope you will enjoy your new bug-free,super awesome, no problems at all G2 that is sure to have Honeycomb as soon as it is available as well.
Boohoo. Stop flooding this forum with stupid topics when there is already plenty others.
If you care so much about getting the newest OS on your phone, go get a N1 or N2 I am sure you will get the newest OS as soon as it came out.
Ibtl
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And a HUGE boo hoo back at the 4 crybabies above this post.
Samsung is building a reputation of not supporting their products after the sale.
This is something the community needs to be kept aware of so other people don't make the mistake of buying their hardware with its good looking specs.
I'm fed up with companies releasing product (or more like the product escaping) before it is finished as well.
And as a final comment to the 4 whiners above, if you don't like this thread no one forced you to read it. Do something productive and contribute to the community, even if it is just a warning to future buyers not to buy from a given company instead of trying to tear down what someone else is doing.
I'm starting to think it was a mistake even registering an account on this forum, Lol.
There are way too many fanbois.
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Boohoo. Stop flooding this forum with stupid topics when there is already plenty others.
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Nothing wrong with wanting Gingerbread, and expecting it, if the hardware supports it.
Samsung should manage its product support better. Way better.
I stay in the Vibrant section, but was hoping others could help the cause.
I generally remain calm and try and remain upbeat and defend... but the news (rumor/leak) about Samsung holding off the froyo release to sell more phones set me over the edge.
While nothing is confirmed, I still believe Samsung needs to be aware of just how pissed they are making our community. I'm not talking stupid class action, blah blah... I simply want our voice heard, and for a Froyo release to happen ASAP... but beyond that, I want them to adhere to the Open Handset Alliance and release their source for our developers.
http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/
I believe we all now who is going to put out a better product, and right now they (our developers) are handicapped because they do not have everything they need.
That said, we need to be organized!
We need twitter to trend.
To do that, we all need to use the same #hashtag. We also need to threaten something that means something to them... the whole problem is they are not updating to help with their sales (allegedly). Well, we need to threaten to never buy Samsung again.
Please use this #Hashtag:
#NeverAgain
would work.... it is easy to use, short and to the point.
An example: (just copy/paste this if you like)
[email protected] I will never buy a Samsung product after the way you've treated your customers. #NeverAgain
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OR (thanks to @JunkDruggler):
@Samsungtweets After the BH2 fail and the Vibrant fail.. I will #NeverAgain buy #samsung..
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You need to tweet:
@SamsungMobileUS and/or @SamsungTweets
I sent a similar tweet earlier, and they are now following me. THEY ARE LISTENING... MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD!!
I do not use Facebook (wow), BUT, here is a LOT of their information compliments of a post from XDA user AllGamer.
AllGamer said:
List of Facebook Samsung's accounts related to our cause:
Mobile Department
Samsung Mobile
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile#!/SamsungMobile?v=wall
Samsung Mobile Canada
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungCanada#!/samsungmobilecanada?v=wall
Samsung Mobile España
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Samsu...ges/Samsung-Mobile-Espana/108610811866?v=wall
Samsung Mobile Global
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileGlobal#!/SamsungMobileGlobal?v=wall
Samsung Mobile Romania
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileRomania
Samsung Mobile Singapore
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileSingapore#!/SamsungMobileSingapore?v=wall
Samsung Mobile UK
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungUKmobile#!/SamsungUKmobile?v=wall
another Samsung Mobile ?
http://www.facebook.com/apps/application.php?id=72687635881&v=wall
Country
Canada
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungCanada#!/SamsungCanada?v=wall
Korea
http://www.facebook.com/samsungkorea#!/samsungkorea?v=wall
USA
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungUSA?v=app_264732985926#!/SamsungUSA?v=wall
Models fan base pages?
Samsung Galaxy S
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Samsu...pages/Samsung-Galaxy-S/112079458807762?v=wall
Samsung Galaxy S Romania
http://www.facebook.com/i9000GalaxyS
Samsung Captivate
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Samsu...ages/Samsung-Captivate/114820871900462?v=wall
Samsung Epic ?
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungEpic#!/SamsungEpic?v=wall
Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant ?
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Samsu...msung-Galaxy-S-Vibrant/129061660469467?v=wall
Unknowns
Engineering ?
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Samsung-Engineering/105652329467423?v=desc
Service ?
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungService#!/SamsungService?v=wall
Samsung ?
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Samsung/25448656869#!/pages/Samsung/25448656869?v=wall
Samsung Apps ?
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungApps?filter=2#!/SamsungApps?v=wall
If anyone can confirm which ones are official and which ones are fan based, it'll be greatly appreciated.
The ones in the Mobile Department and Country specific are definitely legit, anything else are most likely fan based sites.
- NEW full list of legit Samsung Twitter accounts -
http://twitter.com/Samsung/lists
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Haha. Did you see they just said they plan on selling 60 million handsets in 2011? I had to tweet back to them myself on that one. I said good luck since about 50% of power users won't ever buy another samsung after the failures with the Galaxy S.
Thanks for the crosspost from the vibrant forum, I wouldn't have seen it otherwise, so I hope the mods don't remove it.
I set up a twitter account just to complain to Samsung. They should be embarrassed over this. They and Sprint should fire all their devs and hire the folks here. It's ridiculous what is accomplished here by the developers working without full resources or a paycheck compared to what Samsung gets accomplished. It's amateur hour over there.
Tweeted!!! I'm with this movement all the way. Never again will I buy another Samsung phone.
Done and done. Thanks for getting this movement started, power to the people!
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Thanks for the crosspost from the vibrant forum, I wouldn't have seen it otherwise, so I hope the mods don't remove it.
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Thanks man, I felt bad because I did it and THEN thought to myself, shoot... this breaks an XDA rule. I hope that XDA will have a bit of leniency for this isolated event. That said, I certainly would understand if they did close it... sad but I did break a rule.
Our developers need their source!
I also want to add GalaxySSupport to complain to on twitter. It is the support twitter feed for all of the US Galaxy S variants.
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I tweeted them my 2 cents. Thanks for this. I hope alot of people actually jump on it. Not that it's likely to do anything. Still worth a try though!
That being said, it's pretty sad, because the epic has tons of promise. Oh well.
This will work out about as well as internet petitions.
(hint: It accomplishes nothing.. Ever)
done!.........10ch
Done!
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styckx said:
This will work out about as well as internet petitions.
(hint: It accomplishes nothing.. Ever)
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Don't be so sure of that. A smaller website maybe, but one like xda that reaches so many people, its possible to scare them enough to believe we can effect their sales. Its energy better spent than posting over and over speculating about froyo so it also serves a two fold purpose. Overall I'm behind this.
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Done as well.
Man, i hope that rumor isn't true..
Did my part. I hope Samsung listens. They make great phones but need to step away from using an open source platform to maximize how much money they coul make by leaving their existing phone users to die.
I agree with everyone that says the hardware is great, but I just can't stand the fact that Samsung is so slow to update to froyo even after all the complaints. There isn't any sort of support for this phone. Also, the fact they can't promise 2.3 (Gingerbread), as LG has done on the Optimus, even though they were able to put 2.3 on a Nexus S which basically has the same hardware is ridiculous.
You can tell me that I should just root and stop whining but that doesn't solve the problem. It's the principle. I feel like people are just sitting back and saying that the corporations will do what they want to do, which is to look only at short term profits (based on the article on AndroidSpin). If we can affect their bottom line through bad reviews of their products and petitions such as this one I'm sure they'll listen.
Also, if we just sit back and do nothing they'll just do it again and again. The reason for the "whining" is not for the sake of just whining, I just personally want to have the best android platform we can get.
In addition, isn't it just easier for everyone (rooted and not rooted) if we got the upgrade from Samsung directly? So why not try to make our lives easier.
That's why I'm all for this. Just my two cents.
Also, I would suggest people write poor reviews on places like CNET where less "techy" people might read reviews on cellphones before making purchases.
dont think this is going to work because with twitter they haev the same canned response everytime its mentioned , someone needs to reach the higher ups like super management somehow. let them know how unhappy everyone is
Whuts do we need to post on Samsung site? I honestly post sumthing to them daily about dropping the ball on froyo n galaxy
They responded to me w the bull ish Re they sent to everybody about froyo due to the complexity whutever lol
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Done and done.
I wish HTC had invented the super amoled and bought intrinsity instead of samsung. After hearing about all these "new" galaxys s phones being released I can only hope that if and when the froyo source is released it will give devs the code they need for porting 2.3 and beyond. I hope people realize they shouldn't buy these phones and the new galaxy s sales plummet to hell.
I don't use twitter, so I can't post but I do hope this movement is successful in getting samsung to wake up.
I just posted a "tip" link to the Vibrant article on Engadget. The whole Galaxy S Froyo update has been a running joke there, so hopefully they will pick up on this latest news.
I don't really care if people kick up a fuss about this but I'm getting seriously sick of the constant comparison and poll threads between the One and the S4. The phones are really not very alike at all. People will buy which ever one they want and if they don't they're a ****ing moron for letting anyone brainwash them. And anyone who gets passionate enough to cry whenever someone says they don't like the phone you like is a total loser imo. It's a phone. Enjoy the one you have but you can't hate someone who likes something else.
Personally I think the One is phenomenal even compared to the S4. But does it really matter? We all know who will sell more. We all know which one we think is better.
It's been done. Get over it!
Oh and all this fanboy crap that people band about here is also utter tripe. I'm an HTC fan, is that so wrong? I don't give a crap what anyone else on here thinks. You don't know me or anyone else on here personally (maybe some do) so you can't begin to judge people really.
Anyway rant over. Let's just enjoy our new epic shiny toy and hope it does the trick for HTCs sales this year.
PS. Sorry mods for this post. Just getting pissed off of coming on here to more crying about 'my phones better' 'no my phones better and if you don't agree you're a moron and a fanboy' 'but mine has a **** extension button'. Blah blah blah!
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Fanboy-ism leads to brand loyalty and then lead to massive sales.
You want HTC to succeed?
Get the One, love the One, promote the One to your friends and family.
That's how Samsung succeeded.
Brilliant enthusiasts like us are the kickstarters to these companies successes.
All my friends and family who have played with my phone since friday want it and two of my friends were samsung fanboys and the others were deciding out of One, S4, XZ and have all chosen the one.
Livebyte said:
Fanboy-ism leads to brand loyalty and then lead to massive sales.
You want HTC to succeed?
Get the One, love the One, promote the One to your friends and family.
That's how Samsung succeeded.
Brilliant enthusiasts like us are the kickstarters to these companies successes.
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No Samsung succeeded through great marketing.
I will always show people my phone and let them play if they wish but honestly fanboyism will not lead to sales. HTC marketing team will lead to sales. A simple stunning TV advert would do.....
But regardless I think you missed the point of my post!
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You are buying a great phone regardless which one you pick.. HTC put their all into the "One" giving it the best design smartphone (my opinion)
The Galaxy S4 is a great phone too
it all comes down to whatever the user want.. you got fanboys-girls and then you got tech heads like me who buy both of the hottest phones out..
i do think Samsung has a better marketing plan than HTC does.. and you know how the consumer market work..
HTC spends more time and money in other countries on ads and TV commercial spots than in the US (from what i see)
HTC had a mini commercial movie spot in Japan for HTC Butterfly that was pretty neat and showed everything the phone could do.
HTC needs to do that everywhere like Samsung does
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I don't really care if people kick up a fuss about this but I'm getting seriously sick of the constant comparison and poll threads between the One and the S4. The phones are really not very alike at all. People will buy which ever one they want and if they don't they're a ****ing moron for letting anyone brainwash them. And anyone who gets passionate enough to cry whenever someone says they don't like the phone you like is a total loser imo. It's a phone. Enjoy the one you have but you can't hate someone who likes something else.
Personally I think the One is phenomenal even compared to the S4. But does it really matter? We all know who will sell more. We all know which one we think is better.
It's been done. Get over it!
Oh and all this fanboy crap that people band about here is also utter tripe. I'm an HTC fan, is that so wrong? I don't give a crap what anyone else on here thinks. You don't know me or anyone else on here personally (maybe some do) so you can't begin to judge people really.
Anyway rant over. Let's just enjoy our new epic shiny toy and hope it does the trick for HTCs sales this year.
PS. Sorry mods for this post. Just getting pissed off of coming on here to more crying about 'my phones better' 'no my phones better and if you don't agree you're a moron and a fanboy' 'but mine has a **** extension button'. Blah blah blah!
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I completely agree with you. I'm okay with moderate comparisons but this is beyond madness ( on both the One forum and S IV forum). I think the mods should aggressively close all the dupe threads and keep one open on each forum.
I came from s2, s3. i just was waiting for the s4 announce to make my choice..i am tired of the same...my htc one will arrive soon.
i am sure that htc one will be the best 2013 smartphone
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The War Horse said:
I don't really care if people kick up a fuss about this but I'm getting seriously sick of the constant comparison and poll threads between the One and the S4.
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While I totally agree with what you're saying, a thread like this won't help matters to be honest. I'm not saying it'll make the situation worse, but it won't help either.
It's not as if comparing devices is a new concept among the XDA folk. It's always happened. Why? Well it's simple. People like to show off that their device/upcoming device is better than other flagship devices on the market/to be announced. Whether we like it or not, the S4 IS a flagship device and will undoubtedly sell more than the One so a lot of people from this forum are going to want to take any victory over Samsung that they can.
Even if the only aspect which the One "won" on was affordability, we'd still see similar threads along the lines of - "S4 is rubbish because it costs too much and the One is cheaper".
Want proof of this?
Wait for the next popular phone to get released and you'll see that exactly the same will happen, yet again.
As I said at the top of this post though, I do totally agree with you and think that no-one should be bothered what device someone else gets because it's clearly none of their business.
The need to compare things to other items seems to be becoming an ever present problem among human nature, unfortunately.
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I've owned every iPhone since day one. Diehard Apple fanboy. This is nothing new to me. Every time a new phone was released all the fanboys dubbed it the iPhone killer. Ugh - just learn to ignore it and make sensible, well-rounded decisions based on your own experiences and you'll be a much happier person. Lol - that's why, even after all these years, I'm here on XDA, reading every thread and dying to pick up the One! Can't wait!
Although the OP speaks out of my heart, I have to close this as off-topic. As you see when you read the thread. it again started to become a battleground of fanboys.
DISCLAIMER: I posted this on Android Central and reposting here with the same title in the hopes that someone from HTC will read it and maybe do something about it (doubtful but worth a shot).
After the updating debacle that has taken place with their previous phones, how in the world is it possible for HTC to take so long to release updates for the HTC One in the USA? It isn't like the update isn't finished yet b/c it's been available in other parts of the world for over a month now! They also can't blame the carriers b/c they haven't released the update for the unlocked 32 GB or the 64GB develop editions either! This can only be attributed to the fact that the people who work in their USA offices are either 1. brain dead or 2. are sitting on their hands and simply willing to let the company go into bankruptcy.
HTC stated when the One was released that it would receive a TIMELY update to 4.2.2 but even I'll admit I was foolish to fall for their nonsense once again. I'm done...I will never purchase another device from HTC again. If they want to know why they're continuing to lose market share even with the best device on the market, it's b/c their company has AWFUL customer support, they don't communicate with their customers at all, and they simply don't stand by their word or their products. They haven't even made a single statement regarding why the US release has been delayed...it's simply a joke.
I'm sorry for posting this simply to vent but at this point it's 100% justified and HTC deserves the backlash they're receiving.
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DISCLAIMER: I posted this on Android Central and reposting here with the same title in the hopes that someone from HTC will read it and maybe do something about it (doubtful but worth a shot).
After the updating debacle that has taken place with their previous phones, how in the world is it possible for HTC to take so long to release updates for the HTC One in the USA? It isn't like the update isn't finished yet b/c it's been available in other parts of the world for over a month now! They also can't blame the carriers b/c they haven't released the update for the unlocked 32 GB or the 64GB develop editions either! This can only be attributed to the fact that the people who work in their USA offices are either 1. brain dead or 2. are sitting on their hands and simply willing to let the company go into bankruptcy.
HTC stated when the One was released that it would receive a TIMELY update to 4.2.2 but even I'll admit I was foolish to fall for their nonsense once again. I'm done...I will never purchase another device from HTC again. If they want to know why they're continuing to lose market share even with the best device on the market, it's b/c their company has AWFUL customer support, they don't communicate with their customers at all, and they simply don't stand by their word or their products. They haven't even made a single statement regarding why the US release has been delayed...it's simply a joke.
I'm sorry for posting this simply to vent but at this point it's 100% justified and HTC deserves the backlash they're receiving.
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Amen brother!
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I've been pinging @HTC on Twitter asking for ANY information regarding 4.2.2 on the unlocked US phone. NOT ONE reply.
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I've been pinging @HTC on Twitter asking for ANY information regarding 4.2.2 on the unlocked US phone. NOT ONE reply.
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I think we need to make this a viral thing, the only way they will listen is if we stand together.
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Most phones I've had, with 4.2.2 , has been buggy, had bad battery drain issues, and hasn't added a whole lot more than what we have with 4.1.2.
For me, the best version of android, was gingerbread. I would easily run gingerbread on this phone if I could!!
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Most phones I've had, with 4.2.2 , has been buggy, had bad battery drain issues, and hasn't added a whole lot more than what we have with 4.1.2.
For me, the best version of android, was gingerbread. I would easily run gingerbread on this phone if I could!!
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Totally irrelevant to this conversation. This update has been available in all other regions of the world for a month now. The fact that the US hasn't received it has nothing to do with bugginess or anything else. It's simply HTC being HTC.
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I think we need to make this a viral thing, the only way they will listen is if we stand together.
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The problem is getting any kind of coverage to raise awareness. The publication sites where coverage would lead to going viral also receive large advertising $ from HTC and affiliates. They don't want to bite the hand that feeds them.
Check out, galaxy s3 , Sony Xperia zl , galaxy s2, a lot of people are reverting back to android 4.1.2
You seem like a hard to please guy, if HTC released 4.2.2 and it was buggy, you would be complaining again.
It wasn't totally irrelevant.
Get a grip
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markdexter said:
Check out, galaxy s3 , Sony Xperia zl , galaxy s2, a lot of people are reverting back to android 4.1.2
You seem like a hard to please guy, if HTC released 4.2.2 and it was buggy, you would be complaining again.
It wasn't totally irrelevant.
Get a grip
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They DID release it! Just not in the USA for some reason. That's the problem.
I'd be very happy with an announcement saying hey we found bugs and are fixing them or hey we decided to skip 4.2 and go to 4.3. But the silence is ridiculous.
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They DID release it! Just not in the USA for some reason. That's the problem.
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The reason is HTC 's primary market is China. The rest of europ also runs the same M7 model. The US is always going to be the black sheep of the tech world when it comes to getting timely updates due to how our carriers all have something different. Sprint being the blackest of the sheep with their CDMA crap, etc.
That doesn't explain the silence regarding the unlocked models sold directly by htc.
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The reason is HTC 's primary market is China. The rest of europ also runs the same M7 model. The US is always going to be the black sheep of the tech world when it comes to getting timely updates due to how our carriers all have something different. Sprint being the blackest of the sheep with their CDMA crap, etc.
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Once again the unlocked and developer edition models don't need any carrier approval so this is not a legitimate excuse.
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I'd be very happy with an announcement saying hey we found bugs and are fixing them or hey we decided to skip 4.2 and go to 4.3. But the silence is ridiculous.
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What's ridiculous is people complaining about manufacturer updates on xda-developers forums.... If the phone was locked down like the DNA was for a while I'd understand. But it isn't. You can have just about any software on your phone that you wanted. Not that many unlocked were sold in the US and if you bought a dev edition id imagine theyd assume you know what to do to get the latest greatest... Not really something HTC is going to lose sleep over
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Once again the unlocked and developer edition models don't need any carrier approval so this is not a legitimate excuse.
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Same problem in Australia. I get carrier delays, but what is the issue with unlocked models?
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xcesivemastub8ah said:
What's ridiculous is people complaining about manufacturer updates on xda-developers forums.... If the phone was locked down like the DNA was for a while I'd understand. But it isn't. You can have just about any software on your phone that you wanted. Not that many unlocked were sold in the US and if you bought a dev edition id imagine theyd assume you know what to do to get the latest greatest... Not really something HTC is going to lose sleep over
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Unreleased software also means unreleased kernel sources. 4.2.2 based roms like Cyanogenmod 10 would be so much better with released 4.2.2 source dontcha think?
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DISCLAIMER: I posted this on Android Central and reposting here with the same title in the hopes that someone from HTC will read it and maybe do something about it (doubtful but worth a shot).
After the updating debacle that has taken place with their previous phones, how in the world is it possible for HTC to take so long to release updates for the HTC One in the USA? It isn't like the update isn't finished yet b/c it's been available in other parts of the world for over a month now! They also can't blame the carriers b/c they haven't released the update for the unlocked 32 GB or the 64GB develop editions either! This can only be attributed to the fact that the people who work in their USA offices are either 1. brain dead or 2. are sitting on their hands and simply willing to let the company go into bankruptcy.
HTC stated when the One was released that it would receive a TIMELY update to 4.2.2 but even I'll admit I was foolish to fall for their nonsense once again. I'm done...I will never purchase another device from HTC again. If they want to know why they're continuing to lose market share even with the best device on the market, it's b/c their company has AWFUL customer support, they don't communicate with their customers at all, and they simply don't stand by their word or their products. They haven't even made a single statement regarding why the US release has been delayed...it's simply a joke.
I'm sorry for posting this simply to vent but at this point it's 100% justified and HTC deserves the backlash they're receiving.
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Lol at the bankruptcy statement. Timely updates are definitely not what is going to bankrupt HTC
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Quis89 said:
Lol at the bankruptcy statement. Timely updates are definitely not what is going to bankrupt HTC
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Poor update timing affects customer loyalty which affects future sales.
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Poor update timing affects customer loyalty which affects future sales.
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HTC must be quaking in their boots with this thread you have started, this thread could bankrupt HTC!!!
Does your phone work? Can you make and receive calls?? If yes, then what's the issue? What feature/features do you want the most from 4.2.2??
Please buddy, who really cares?? Your ranting about something you can flash right now, go to the development section, plenty of 4.2.2 roms there choose one, flash away, I'm sure the devs here will do a better job than HTC will!!
For me I've owned over 15 different android phones, this phones beats them all, it has everything. The best battery life I've ever had!
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NextNexus said:
Poor update timing affects customer loyalty which affects future sales.
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You are on XDA DEVELOPERS? If you have found the forum find the info you need and put 4.2 onto the phone. I don't care how fast a carrier does or doesn't update a phone because I do not buy phone based on that. I buy them based on developer support and let me tell you this phone has that in plenty. I agree it is BS that HTC Sony and others can not get timely updates but having hardware venders that provide crappy software support is nothing new to me. Been going on for 20 years. You ever own a sound blaster product??? So now that you have yelled and gotten it off your chest go on over to the DEV section and do something about it.
Loki has been patched, although it took LG almost a year to do so. We can run KK on the G2 by keeping the old bootloader which still has Loki exploit.
But anyone who buys a G2 now (which will ship with KK) or future devices like G3 will need to find a new exploit. And those are getting much harder. Just look at the situation for S4, >1 year and still no exploit, same for S5.
HTC is the only truly dev friendly oem left IMO. Do you think LG will start following Samsung and make their phones almost impossible to unlock?
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Loki has been patched, although it took LG almost a year to do so. We can run KK on the G2 by keeping the old bootloader which still has Loki exploit.
But anyone who buys a G2 now (which will ship with KK) or future devices like G3 will need to find a new exploit. And those are getting much harder. Just look at the situation for S4, >1 year and still no exploit, same for S5.
HTC is the only truly dev friendly oem left IMO. Do you think LG will start following Samsung and make their phones almost impossible to unlock?
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you are funny with the HTC completely not true though. Look at HTC ONE x
Also we are able to downgrade the boot loader at least I did...
Also that is normal business to find a new exploit...
And LG has 2 devices called Nexus. There you can do all.
You knew what you were getting, if not you were a fool...
You have hundreds of alternatives... that are dev friendly.
And HTC, lg, Samsung ain't one of them, they are not the only ones making phones you know....
As said there are brands that you just click to.root in the menu... And I am not talking about the CM devices either. Just Google a bit...
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you are funny with the HTC completely not true though. Look at HTC ONE x
Also we are able to downgrade the boot loader at least I did...
Also that is normal business to find a new exploit...
And LG has 2 devices called Nexus. There you can do all.
You knew what you were getting, if not you were a fool...
You have hundreds of alternatives... that are dev friendly.
And HTC, lg, Samsung ain't one of them, they are not the only ones making phones you know....
As said there are brands that you just click to.root in the menu... And I am not talking about the CM devices either. Just Google a bit...
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HTC has come a long way since the one x. Just saying...
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And HTC, lg, Samsung ain't one of them, they are not the only ones making phones you know....
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Uhhhhh, so you suggest buying Motorola? or maybe Nokia?
I'm sure most of us don't want to deal with Chinese made products.
votinh said:
Uhhhhh, so you suggest buying Motorola? or maybe Nokia?
I'm sure most of us don't want to deal with Chinese made products.
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You can choose nexus line products...
And I have a surprise for you as it seems nobody told this to you yet
. All is from CHINA.
Even if it says from somewhere else, there are parts from CHINA...
And I suggest not to be sad about buying a non friendly dev device so to speak, because that's what you knew from the start...
There are AOSP variants, nexus variants other providers.. etc... bashing a bit about lg g2 in this subject makes no sense. They did not sell it as a dev device....
I personally prefered the non nexus crowds as majority of those are noobs that can't do nothing without a one click solution where they need a manual to show them how to operate the one click...
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PAGOT said:
You can choose nexus line products...
And I have a surprise for you as it seems nobody told this to you yet
. All is from CHINA.
Even if it says from somewhere else, there are parts from CHINA...
And I suggest not to be sad about buying a non friendly dev device so to speak, because that's what you knew from the start...
There are AOSP variants, nexus variants other providers.. etc... bashing a bit about lg g2 in this subject makes no sense. They did not sell it as a dev device....
I personally prefered the non nexus crowds as majority of those are noobs that can't do nothing without a one click solution where they need a manual to show them how to operate the one click...
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I think you have misunderstood the point, but I blame myself for not saying it clear.
"Chinese products" means the products are designed and made by Chinese, for instance just in case you haven't heard one or you heard but don't realize they are from China, ZTE, Huawei. It is NOT the "Made in China" I was talking about. Hope you get it now.
Also, I thought Nexus is made by LG. I might be wrong.
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Oh, and don't tell me that Acer, Asus, HTC, ... are from China.
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I think you have misunderstood the point, but I blame myself for not saying it clear.
"Chinese products" means the products are designed and made by Chinese, for instance just in case you haven't heard one or you heard but don't realize they are from China, ZTE, Huawei. It is NOT the "Made in China" I was talking about. Hope you get it now.
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Let's not get racists here. Look Made By China, Designed by China, Parts by China. Who cares?
Not sure if you listen to the American Propaganda "banning" ZTE, Huawei devices. Or if you had a bad experience with somebody Chinese
I am really not sure why you have such a negative stance against something that you are using in all your daily life in everything.
Also you are getting OOT heavily.
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Also, I thought Nexus is made by LG. I might be wrong.
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And LG has 2 devices called Nexus
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I think you do not read what ppl write, you just like to react on random words , I wrote this a little up there.
If you wanna start a flame please don't, I won't reply to you anymore as you missed the point of what I was trying to say.
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Let's not get racists here. Look Made By China, Designed by China, Parts by China. Who cares?
Not sure if you listen to the American Propaganda "banning" ZTE, Huawei devices. Or if you had a bad experience with somebody Chinese
I am really not sure why you have such a negative stance against something that you are using in all your daily life in everything.
Also you are getting OOT heavily.
I think you do not read what ppl write, you just like to react on random words , I wrote this a little up there.
If you wanna start a flame please don't, I won't reply to you anymore as you missed the point of what I was trying to say.
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Dude, do you know Chinese love iPhone and Samsung??? Does that tell you anything?
Who cares, you said? Woww, is that what you have in mind? Anyway, who cares LOL
For the last part, yes, I'm sorry m8, I don't read all details unless I have to do some research about it.
Seriously, I know iPhone are made in China, but I don't know at which county or province.
I know some Nexus devices made by Asus but don't know which model exactly.